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TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#84001: Mar 24th 2024 at 8:31:50 PM

Oooooooh!

Even with just passing knowledge of Frienen as a character, pitting her up against Hohenheim is something that just clicks with me instantly. Would love to see that as an actual fight should the show survive that long.

Edited by TheMageofFire on Mar 24th 2024 at 8:32:01 AM

IceAnt573 Forever not amused. Since: May, 2015
Forever not amused.
#84002: Mar 24th 2024 at 8:48:28 PM

If we go by MAL scores, Frieren has a 0.3 lead over FMA: Brotherhood (9.39 vs 9.09) as the top rated anime on the site.

uncertanSearcher Definitely Hatsune Miku from Germany Since: Oct, 2017
Definitely Hatsune Miku
#84003: Mar 24th 2024 at 11:08:17 PM

It has become almost a seasonal tradition that one big hyped up anime will top FMA on MAL and then drop below it again a bit after. Remains to be seen if Frieren can keep up that lead permanently, but if she can that would be a genuinly impressive feat.

What? Thats totally relevant for this debate.

Edited by uncertanSearcher on Mar 24th 2024 at 7:09:36 PM

IceAnt573 Forever not amused. Since: May, 2015
Forever not amused.
#84004: Mar 24th 2024 at 11:37:18 PM

It's been #1 since December so it's already been close to 4 months since it's held the top spot.

Rockernator The Last Brawler from Another Dimension Since: Apr, 2021
The Last Brawler
#84005: Mar 25th 2024 at 3:14:51 AM

Any good opponents for emperor Palpatine?

Elmo3000 from UK Since: Jul, 2013
#84006: Mar 25th 2024 at 3:30:18 AM

[up]There's Kingdom Hearts man, Xenogears I think his name is. I think that's universally agreed to just be a repeat of Yoda VS King Mickey though. Kingdom Hearts is apparently a pretty busted franchise.

Prany Since: Apr, 2013
#84007: Mar 25th 2024 at 5:03:30 AM

Other option I often hear is Emperor from Warhammer 40000.

Witherbrine98 Since: May, 2016
#84008: Mar 25th 2024 at 6:18:38 AM

"OH. MY GALAXY IS BEING INVADED BY THE UNHOLY BYPRODUCT OF A SHRIVELED TESTICLE AND A BASEMENT DWELLER. YES, I AM SHIVERING TO THE MARROW OF MY BONES."

...

...

...

"THAT WAS SARCASM IF YOU COULDN'T TELL. NOW GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY IMPERIUM BEFORE I LITTER YOUR SHITTY EXCUSE OF AN EMPIRE FLEET WITH SO MANY WARP STORMS THAT ATTEMPTING TO USE THE FORCE WILL FEEL LIKE HAVING CANCER."

Edited by Witherbrine98 on Mar 25th 2024 at 6:19:35 AM

Rockernator The Last Brawler from Another Dimension Since: Apr, 2021
The Last Brawler
#84009: Mar 25th 2024 at 7:17:53 AM

[up]That speech alone would kill him. Palpatine I mean

Edited by Rockernator on Mar 25th 2024 at 3:18:30 PM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#84010: Mar 25th 2024 at 9:32:51 AM

Just for fun, suggesting Ming the Merciless, since he's probably one of Palpatine's inspirations. But seeing as he's a raging Yellow Peril stereotype, probably not.

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
ToadTV Since: Oct, 2019
#84011: Mar 25th 2024 at 9:36:44 AM

As far as the debate goes, Xehanort VS Palpatine doesn’t work out any better in the favor for the Star Wars guy, though obviously both sets of characters are about as different as they could possibly be in role, style, combat capabilities, etc. to the point that I don’t think it’d feel like a repeat as a battle.

That said yeah, Xehanort probably sweeps. Of course, both also do have plenty of other viable opponents (especially Xehanort, you could make a list of opponents for each of his incarnations individually).

TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#84012: Mar 25th 2024 at 9:42:19 AM

Yeah, even if you don't use the usual Kingdom Hearts power level wanking for Xehanort and highball Palpatine with every Legends feat you could imagine, Xehanort just wins.

But still, I want the fight for the sheer hamminess of it all.

ultimate_life_form resident girlfail (Searching for Spock)
resident girlfail
#84013: Mar 25th 2024 at 9:47:23 AM

I wouldn't call Palpanort just Yodickey 2, or that that's the community perception of it.

Completely different fight dynamics, connections, personalities, etc.

generation81 Since: Aug, 2021
#84014: Mar 25th 2024 at 9:49:44 AM

[up]x3You can always use his 2007 incarnation, who isn't such a Yellow Pearl.

I read a Deviantart Death Battle with him against Voldemort, too.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#84015: Mar 25th 2024 at 9:50:13 AM

It's somewhat difficult to find a good match for Palpatine, because a lot of characters of his type aren't as powerful as he is. The "evil monarch running the evil space empire" type is often fairly powerless once the hero breaks through all their weapons and defenses and meets them one on one.

That said, my mind keeps drifting to Emperor Belos.

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
ultimate_life_form resident girlfail (Searching for Spock)
resident girlfail
#84016: Mar 25th 2024 at 9:55:43 AM

Eh, Belos has Father, which is a basically perfect match for him.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#84017: Mar 25th 2024 at 9:58:35 AM

I think he's a perfect match for Palpatine as well.

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
Pokesamus Since: Aug, 2016
#84018: Mar 25th 2024 at 10:11:05 AM

Can’t really say that Belos vs Palpatine tickles my fancy compared to their more popular opponents

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#84019: Mar 25th 2024 at 10:33:01 AM

The main one I hear for Palpatine is Xehanort, who beyond being elderly schemers that wear black don't really have much in common with one another, and as noted here is such a stomp in Xehanort's direction that it probably wouldn't be much fun to watch.

I dunno, the more I think about Belos and Palpatine, the more I think they're pretty well matched in terms of narrative (moreso definitely than Belos and Father, anyway) with fairly similar backstories, and while Palpatine has the edge overall the fact that the kinds of magic they use are so different means the fight would be bost visually interesting and there may be avenues that Belos uniquely has that he could exploit to make the odds more even.

Sounds more fun than anything else I've heard for either character.

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
Elmo3000 from UK Since: Jul, 2013
#84020: Mar 25th 2024 at 11:03:35 AM

One thing I wouldn't mind about Palpatine VS Xenoblade or whatever is that Palpatine is absolutely the kind of guy who I would not mind seeing get the Homelander treatment. Just putting him in a match that he has no chance of winning. I'm not big into Star Wars lore, but from what I understand, he's a massive evil dick who wants to rule the world galaxy because he's a massive evil dick. I would happily see that wrinkly old jerk get dunked on by a wizard who fights Donald Duck.

Are there any popular Kingdom Hearts match-ups that they lose? It sounds like just from the way they move from location to location, every character is billions of times lightspeed. Sasuke VS Riku was popular for a while, if Riku isn't strong enough to immediately kill him - which he probably is - then Sasuke's hax could come into play. It would also just be nice for Sasuke to get the Shadow, Darth Vader and Guts treatment, where his first episode wasn't that great so they brought him back for a better one.

TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#84021: Mar 25th 2024 at 11:08:14 AM

Frankly as long as Kingdom Hearts power levels keep getting wanked to high hell I don't think there's anything they lose barring...maybe Riku vs. Meta Knight?

Pokesamus Since: Aug, 2016
#84022: Mar 25th 2024 at 11:18:43 AM

who beyond being elderly schemers that wear black don't really have much in common with one another,
I feel like you’ve been missing out on one of those franchises for a bit if you assume that’s where the similarities end between those two.

NesClassic Inheritor of the Wing from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: In another castle
Inheritor of the Wing
#84023: Mar 25th 2024 at 11:28:30 AM

I think the only notably popular KH matchup where they stand a chance of losing is Riku VS Cecil Harvey, and even then Riku still has all the usual hax associated with being a Keyblade Master. It's just Dissidia cross-scaling gets kinda funky if you give it to Cecil.

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TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#84024: Mar 25th 2024 at 11:43:59 AM

Yeah, like, ultimately even putting the KH-verse where it SHOULD top (Universal at the least) instead of where people THINK it should go (Multi+), a lot of their match-ups are against people who like, at best, could be Planetary, with the exception being Palpatine who could in theory get to Solar System with Legends scaling.

Even Cecil, as mentioned above, has to require some questionable finagling to get him into range to fight Riku.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#84025: Mar 25th 2024 at 12:14:07 PM

Does Palpatine get a Death Star, Galaxy Gun, Eclipse class super star destroyer, or the less exciting fleet of super laser Star destroyers?

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