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Seconded.
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
@Tobias
That's like saying, "The reason your microwave exploded was because of human error. The microwave was never designed to heat food. There should not have been a burrito inside of it."
No, it's like saying, "The reason your microwave exploded was because of human error. You're the dumbass who put metal in it." If you attempt to drive a self-driving car, to take control of the car away from the system, it is your fault if it crashes. Don't blame the machine just because it was hijacked.
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Frankly, I never had much reason to trust Musk in the first place. But then again maybe I'm biased against Silicon Valley types, ego-driven narcissists and people who sell flamethrowers as publicity stunts.
Edited by MorningStar1337 on Jul 15th 2018 at 12:40:29 PM
Senator Feinstein (D-CA)has lost the endorsement of the California Democratic Party to her primary opponent, Kevin de Leon. A few months back, the party refused to endorse either of them, but came closer to the challenger. Now her support among the delegates is in the single digit range.
Probably not an issue, the seat is secure and its not like the challenger is a nutter and/or an asshole.
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
I sincerely wonder why Musk made that tweet. Does he have a history of bigotry or something? Trump leaves a trail of breadcrumbs.
Long as he's not a green tea nutcase like the guy challenging Pelosi (?) it's fine.
It already does, just not in the versions on the market.... And they can... AI Visual recolonization has gotten incredibly advanced in the past few years, and the more modern ones can indeed recognize pedestrians and street signs. The other sensors? Its not because they CANT see, but rather that sight can betray you, things like an ultrasonic sensor not only return that there is an object in your way but exactly how far ahead it is.... it lets you see something that is pitch black at night... Thermal sensors will reveal any thing that the other two miss.
They are not there because they CANT, they are there because they add.
Thats just making them more dangerous, a machine reacts much faster then a human, and by making every car driver less you can have them all communicate with each other and improve traffic patterns and safety immensely.... machines and humans cant communicate in the way that they can tell what we want to do and adapt.... not yet at least and not for the foreseeable future.. AI improving to the point that it is safer then humans though? We are well on our way there.
Remember, this is the big fallicy with automation, you don't want "Perfection" you want "Better then humans"
These are caused by human error actually, namely your GPS needs to be updated or it looses sync, when talking about automation the goal is to take the things humans can screw up away from them, so it becomes less of an issue...
In addition GPS is only one of many ways self driving cars navigate, they also have a visual sensor that tracks the road which would prevent you from ending up in a lake, they have ultrasonic and infa-red for trafic detection which should with any competent programer tell the AI when it is time to start re-routing due to trafic...
Just because it isn't on the market yet doesn't mean its not there.
The tesla's are not "self driving" they are close, but they aren't the equipped with every thing needed to fully drive themselfs... listening to Musk is just giving that asshole what he wants.
Besides, as the above says... "this is the big fallicy with automation, you don't want "Perfection" you want "Better then humans"" not blaming the machine where it is due is bad, but it is also bad to expect perfection from one, you just want BETTER... and they are well on there way to causing less accidents then we do... our reaction times are shite, no one ever uses there signals... nor obeys road rules... we just werent designed to drive hunks of metal around at high speeds.
Was that incident caused by her attempting to take control back from the car though? That honestly seems like a reasonable cause of an automation fuckup, but I would think if that was the case I would have seen that reported more.
Yes he does actualy, he treats the women working for him like crap... and fires them when ever they ask for a raise. Musk is an asshole.... an asshole that is one of the few people who market technological progress any more, but still an asshole.
Edited by Imca on Jul 15th 2018 at 1:10:06 AM
State of Mind
It might be people trying to force Di Fi more to the left, but it comes off as pointlessly divisive. Also apparently there was some serious lack of communication between the delegates who voted and the greater party.
This isn't the same body who declined to endorse anyone a few months ago. It's a much smaller group of delegates.
"What a century this week has been." - Seung Min Kim
Should be noted that de Leon, while to Feinstein's left, is establishment to the bone.
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
So this is more like dumping Feinstein who, for real or perceived, has a history of questionable stances, in favor of another mainliner who isn't quite as laden with baggage.
Sounds fairly reasonable.
"Sandwiches are probably easier to fix than the actual problems" -Hylarn
Probably not an issue, the seat is secure and its not like the challenger is a nutter and/or an asshole.
I approve of this- if you want to change the party, this is how you do it. You run in the primary (preferably in safe districts like in California or New York) and you vote for the winner in the general. You either win or you send a message, something both Clinton and Cuomo have heard.
State of Mind
Keep in mind that Feinstein came in first in the primaries by over 3 to 1 votes against de Leon. The only way he gets up in the polls is if Republicans hate her enough to vote for him.
"What a century this week has been." - Seung Min Kim
It's for situations like this that I like the idea of the House of Lords in the UK. I mean, Feinstein has done her job well. Not perfect, but who is. She should be rewarded and respected for that. The problem is that she clearly wants to remain "in the game" so to speak. But there are no places for retired Congresspersons to go, and she does have a wealth of knowledge and experience (especially in intelligence given her committee experience) that would be sorely missed.
If only there were a way to have "Senator Emeritus" within Congress. There would be strict rules, such as must have served a minimum of three terms, and would only be the gift of the Senate upon the departure of the Senator. It would have no voting rights, and no committee privileges, but does come with the right to sit in the chamber and speak in debates. It also has the effect of allowing that person a role near the centre of power without blocking the next generation.
Elon Musk is worth praising for what he does right, just as he's worth disdain for his Trumpier outbursts.
A good comparison would be Henry Ford. The guy got people on the road, and had a business model based on paying his employees enough to be able to afford his Model T. He also hired clubmen to beat union workers and was a flaming Nazi.
While there are occasionally people who really have never done anything good (Trump, for example), businessmen who develop innovative products should be celebrated for that even if they're assholes in other respects (at which point we call them out for being assholes).
I despise hypocrisy, unless of course it is my own.
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The current generation of so-called "Self-Driving Cars" still require the driver to pay close attention to what's going on around them and be ready to take control at a split-second's notice, to hit the brakes or steer away from danger if needs be. Which is something that drivers of regular, non-autonomous cars don't even bother to do as things presently stand.
In short, Self-Driving Cars — don't. But it's not a technology problem, it's a people problem.
EDIT: Or, to quote James May from BBC's Top Gear: "Cars that drive themselves were invented ages ago. They're called taxicabs."
Edited by pwiegle on Jul 15th 2018 at 6:52:26 AM
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Yes, I actually put Ford as worse than Trump.
Which is impressive.
Trump is close if not an actual Neo-Nazi.
Henry Ford was one.
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I don't get why we even need self-driving cars. When it comes out, no one will have the money to buy it anyway due to how expensive it is alone, and people are too comfortable with current cars to change the formula. Just look at electric cars - most people I know think that things are fine as they are and even if they had the money would never buy one, simply because they are comfortable with current oil cars.
Also, I don't necessarily agree with that Trump is a neo-nazi at all. Sure, he's a scumbag, but far from anything close to the definition of a neo-nazi.
At this point though, calling him a white supremacist is pretty apt. It's not the exact same thing as a neo-nazi but it's not out of the ballpark either.
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Because some of us can't drive. That's why.
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Also, "people are comfortable with their current cars" might hold true for now but we don't know that that's going to last indefinitely. Every new technology has a transition period where people need to get used to the idea before they trust it.
I agree, Neo-Nazi refers to specific ideology that Trump does not follow in any real concrete way.
Rather it's undeniable to say that he's a white supremacist and slightly more deniable to say that he's a fascist.
Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Jul 15th 2018 at 9:10:43 AM
"Sandwiches are probably easier to fix than the actual problems" -Hylarn
The law in the night
I don't know about you, but I'd rather have a computer guiding a car over the highway over some jerkass who thinks he can drive wonderfully after more than a few beers or over some idiot who doesn't know why people should give some distance between your car and theirs when going 80Kmphnote .
Which by the time I started driving, I found out it is a shitload of people.
Besides, no one really wants to guide a car during slow traffic or during long rides unless they want or have to.
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Oh, bother.
Trump may not have a red armband in his closet, but he's certainly willing to pander to Neo-Nazis and make false equivalences between them and anti-fa.
Edited by M84 on Jul 15th 2018 at 9:56:54 PM
Disgusted, but not surprised
Eh, I never cared for this Musk dude in the first place. But this confirmation that he's a rich narcissistic douchebag who feels the need to tweet a slanderous accusation of pedophilia against a man who rescued children? No love lost from me. Musk is merely more intelligent than Trump, not much else separating them personality-wise.
Edited by AHI-3000 on Jul 15th 2018 at 11:50:20 AM