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It doesn't matter, the GOP will find a way to blame it on Muslims.
And probably more than a little unfeasible, though I strongly suspect it was up for negotiation.
edited 21st May '17 2:00:40 PM by CaptainCapsase
Oh, bother.
The kicker is that the problem was recognized as a problem in the past. But this administration went so far as to cut funding for dealing with this issue.
edited 21st May '17 2:00:43 PM by M84
Disgusted, but not surprised
Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign?
[The Speech] was probably just an extension of Trump's and Tillerson's America First thing. And, about that:
TPP trade deal will continue without Trump
Mr Trump signalled in January he would block the passage of the 12-nation pact in order to protect American jobs.
Trade ministers from the 11 remaining countries have met in Vietnam to get the deal back on track.
The representatives also agreed to help the US rejoin the deal at any time.
The bid to revive the TPP, which would have covered 40% of the global economy, was led by trade ministers from Japan, Australia and New Zealand.
New Zealand trade minister Todd Mc Clay said the remaining countries "are committed to finding a way forward to deliver" the deal.
US ...trade representative Robert Lighthizer said it would not return to the TPP.
"The United States pulled out of the TPP and it's not going to change that decision."
"The president made a decision, that I certainly agree with, that bilateral negotiations are better for the United States than multilateral negotiations."
The remaining 11 countries pushing on with the deal are Japan, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Singapore, Mexico, Peru, Chile, Vietnam, Malaysia and Brunei.
edited 21st May '17 2:05:11 PM by CenturyEye
Look with century eyes... With our backs to the arch And the wreck of our kind We will stare straight ahead For the rest of our lives
As for the issue with NC Republicans, I believe the issue is that they got control of the government/legislator fairly recently, and then immediately gerrymandered the state so thoroughly it's almost impossible for them to lose power now. With things being so heavily titled in their favor, it's lead them to go full on crazy.
@Rationalinsanity: They are probably waiting until there are enough black "sovereign citizens" to be able to turn into a racist dog whistle.
. . .actually, that's probably not as far from the truth as I'd like it to be.
edited 21st May '17 2:17:33 PM by Mio
Anyone in this thread already mentioned the Purple Glowing Globe yet?
Re: terrorism.
There's the way domestic vs foreign terrorism is framed in the US media which likely contributes to the continued avoidance of domestic terrorism as an issue. Domestic terrorists are framed as lone wackos with mental issues. Foreign terrorists are framed as part of a huge conspiracy out to kill us all.
Never Trust
Unsurprisingly Trump is taking flack from the alt-right for not using the term "radical Islamic extremism" and for referring to Islam as "one the world's great religions".
I myself wouldn't have a problem with the term if "radical Islamic extremism", which certainly exists, hadn't basically been turned into a code phrase for "Islam in any way shape or form:"
edited 21st May '17 2:52:00 PM by tricksterson
Trump delenda est
And Roger Stone said that Trump getting a medal from King Salman was "sickening".
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
The alt-right is always going to be disappointed by Trump. Can you imagine how upset this guy is going to be when women still have the vote come the next election?
Can someone investigate the legality of NC gerrymandering, as it has been elsewhere?
I liked it better when Questionable Casting was called WTH Casting Agency
Asgore Adopts Noelle
I'm pretty sure they've already been taken to court and lost their case; either over Gerrymandering or Voter Suppression, I forget which.
Point is, NC is most likely going to go Blue in 2018 if the Democrats don't screw it up.
I mean, the irony of complaining about Iran being an oppressive terrorist sponsor in Saudi Arabia really is staggering. It's quite possibly the best possible condemnation of the entire U.S strategy as far as the 'War on Terror' is concerned.
Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.
On the other hand, there's a lot about the speech that's similar to Bush and Obama (like the politically correct tone mentioned earlier), and the Atlantic has an annotated version here.
They note a couple important differences: One, as mentioned, is telling Iran to shove off.
Two, is encouraging the leaders in attendance to do whatever it takes to root out extremists, and we won't ask too many questions about how they do it.
So basically, the speech is everything his audience wanted: Getting America off their backs, out of Iran, and receiving weapons that will be put to unquestionably "good use."
edited 21st May '17 3:48:55 PM by Eschaton
Hypothetically, were Trump to give a speech in Iran he would undoubtedly say everything they wanted to hear as well. His words are utterly meaningless.
Two days after Iran held democratic, if flawed, elections no less. Elections in which the president got the majority of the popular vote too, which sounds a bit more democratic than a certain other method.
Sigh. I wish one of the Western leaders had the courage to tell Saudi Arabia, Qatar et al. to shove it. Not holding my breath for Macron since Hollande kept selling planes to SA and its allies and the former minister of defence is now in charge of Foreign Affairs, but Merkel or Trudeau could.
@Iran, this, especially with a president who was not backed by the shah-and a win outright for the guy who brokered the nuclear deal over the protests of the hardliners, no second round necessary.
edited 21st May '17 4:28:04 PM by ViperMagnum357
Trudeau has a vested interest in keeping General Dynamics Canada in full operation (they employ people in key ridings), so don't hold your breath on weapons from Canada slowing down. Maybe he'll admonish them but that's it.
Gulf States are a pain, but if we ditch them things get worse.
edited 21st May '17 6:58:48 PM by Rationalinsanity
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Huh, I'm surprised they still have some kind of standards. It would almost be heartwarming, if I didn't hate them all.
I mean, the "standard" in question was that he wasn't talking enough shit about Islam in its entirety.
edited 21st May '17 4:48:41 PM by LSBK
I figured they'd find some way to explain this away, like Fox News is trying to do.
Getting on his case for not using a specific phrase strikes me as silly though. He can't very well say every possible buzzword in every speech.
Like with many other things, Trump has flipflopped on his position toward evil glowing orbs.
Also, I'd like to suggest this as a potential page image for Cosmopolitan Council.
@M84, how many cops need to get killed by Sovereign Citizen wackjobs (not a total overlap with radical right-wing/white supremacist, but there's still a lot) before they change their tune? Its only a matter of time before one of these guys or a militia nutter tries to pull an Oklahoma City....
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.