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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
No non paywall at the moment but:
Top Senate Official Disqualifies Minimum Wage From Stimulus Plan – The parliamentarian ruled that the provision, which would gradually increase the wage to $15 an hour, violated the strict budgetary rules that limit what can be included in the package.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/25/us/politics/federal-minimum-wage.html
Edit: Here we go - https://www.axios.com/senate-parliamentarian-minimum-wage-15-relief-e490591a-c668-4be9-af75-5e2408fe8f34.html
Edited by sgamer82 on Feb 26th 2021 at 9:31:38 AM
I'm trying to calm myself down about CPAC by reading about how many people are leaving the Evangelical church.
Never trust anyone who uses "degenerate" as an insult.
I wish they'd try and take it back from this odiousness.
But yes, I'm not sure who is worse now: Comstock the fictional character or Trump.
Edited by CharlesPhipps on Feb 26th 2021 at 10:48:47 AM
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For what it's worth, I'd argue the Bioshock character most similar to Trump is actually Frank Fontaine.
"Any campaign world where an orc samurai can leap off a landcruiser to fight a herd of Bulbasaurs will always have my vote of confidence"
Hey, this is good news guys. Let Trump keep control of the Republican Party, let him win the next primary. We beat him once and we can beat him again. His divisiveness will continue to cost them the Senate, and eventually the Judiciary.
He also beat us once, and I'm not confident going best 2 out of 3.
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Technically we're ahead of a best 3 out of 5 at this point, as we also made gains in 2018 against Trump. If Trump successfully takes over the Republican Party whenever CPAC happens, 2022 is gonna be a Republican blood bath. Democrats would probably keep the House and we'd be in a good spot to expand in the Senate, especially against a Trumpublican Party.
CPAC hosts booed for asking attendees to wear masks – "When you’re in the ballroom, when you’re seated, you should still be wearing a mask," CPAC deputy director Carly Patrick said.
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/02/26/cpac-booed-masks-coronavirus-471743
We barely pulled ahead in the 2020 election even giving it our all, so I'm not confident we can keep a completely Trump-overtaken Republican party again.
Ideally the hardcore Trumpist and establishment Republicans rip each other during the primaries. Meanwhile Democrats need to organize and notch some successes during the next two years to ensure voters feel good about voting for them again.
Quite, and considering how poorly the down-ballot races went I think triumphalism is entirely unjustified. Our victory was good but it was in no way a landslide, there is still a risk.
Particularly considering that barely passing anything is likely to pose a political cost.
Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Feb 26th 2021 at 11:06:59 AM
"Sandwiches are probably easier to fix than the actual problems" -Hylarn
I don't expect the establishment Republicans to not just dovetail into Trumpist talking points after an initial round of token resistance, and drag a big chunk of their supporters down with them. Almost none of them voted to impeach the man who literally tried to have them murdered.
Edited by AlleyOop on Feb 26th 2021 at 2:07:13 PM
At this point the best hope of having Trump dealt with is the Manhattan DA throwing him in jail for God-knows how many crimes. Or the state of Georgia. If he can't run directly, there's only so much a Trump proxy can do.
Edited by Beatman1 on Feb 26th 2021 at 2:11:16 PM
Yet more evidence that these idiots are getting people killed, if half a million corpses somehow wasn't enough.
And in a statement that will surprise no one, Trump Jr. criticized Republicans who "lose gracefully" and pointed to his daddy about how "you can actually push back" - blatantly omitting the part about how that "push back" sparked a fucking riot.
A procrastination in of itself
Trump can still run from prison, I wouldn't put it past the Republican base to nominate an incarcerated man.
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Edited by ScubaWolf on Feb 26th 2021 at 2:43:32 PM
"In a move surprising absolutely no one"
I don't think there is a way, sorry. The rules are the rules. Maaaybe you can enact a minimum wage raise for federal employees, but I don't think that's what's wanted here.
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I think progress needs to be pushed forward rather than fight it on this element.
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Especially if they run with a narrative that he was incarcerated for purely political reasons. His base would both believe that easily and run with it eagerly.
Unlikely. CNN has a breakdown of what's in the COVID relief bill, why it's unlikely they can keep the minimum wage raise in, and why they might not be keen to fight for it.
The Senate parliamentarian's ruling on Thursday night is a major blow for progressives hoping to finally raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour, but as multiple Democratic aides have been telling us for weeks, this will make it easier for Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer to get his party in line.
It also spares Schumer the difficult political decision of having to pull it from the bill and risk his own standing with progressives. That's because two moderates — Sens. Kyrsten Sinema of Arizona and Joe Manchin of West Virginia — had made it clear that the $15 minimum wage was not going to have their support. Manchin seemed open to lowering it, Sinema seemed less open to including any minimum wage hike at all.
There are still other sticking points for moderates both on the eligibility requirements on who gets direct checks, the formula surrounding state and local governments and some are fighting to expand broadband in this package, but those issues have more levers you can pull, scales you can slide to find a middle ground. Minimum wage was harder to contend with given its popularity, slogan and progressive base.
For his part, Schumer knows the moderates are going to need to be happy with this final version. Multiple aides tell CNN that the majority leader held a side meeting Thursday with moderates to talk a little bit about what they need to see in the bill to ultimately support it. The conversation was characterized as "positive" by multiple people, but underscores the growing realities for Schumer of a 50/50 majority and the emerging threat that moderates — two in particular — could pose to the Biden agenda if Schumer doesn't navigate those relationships very carefully.
Overruling the parliamentarian
This is not happening. The White House's statement was clear Thursday: The President is disappointed, but he respects the decision. He's not going to challenge it. White House chief of staff Ron Klain told MSNBC this week that they would not try to circumvent the parliamentarian.
But because we will get questions about it: Yes, the parliamentarian's ruling is guidance. Yes, technically the presiding officer (Vice President Kamala Harris in this case) could ignore it. But, if that happened, a Republican would object. A vote would be called to overrule it and if they had 60 votes it would be overruled. You could argue that maybe Democrats wouldn't join Republicans in overruling it, but you are missing the macro point here that Manchin and Sinema wouldn't vote for the bill if Democrats went down this road. Without them, the bill would be dead. So, again: This is not happening.
As usual? It's Manchin and Sinema again, and Biden not wanting to fight the parliamentarian (personally I disagree with his decision, but I see their point).
Schumer et al. are currently discussing ways to get around the minimum wage issue without settling for Romney's pittance of a compromise, such as by penalizing employers who pay less than minimum wage.
Personally I'm not very happy about Biden backing down from the $2000 stimulus in favor of a sliding scale of $1400, because even $2000 is a ridiculously small amount for how long people have gone without aid.
Edited by AlleyOop on Feb 26th 2021 at 2:52:34 PM
Yeah, I think the $15 minimum wage in the budget reconciliation is pretty much dead in the water, unfortunately. It will make for a good fight politically, though, as Democrats can point out just how much it would help Republican constituents while also helping the economy as a whole (more money in poorer peoples' pockets = more purchasing power = increased demand for goods = increased need for labor or materials = more people getting money = more purchasing power, ad infinitum)
"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
Mostly I feel like the issue is it could be fought for but the time for this relief was a long time ago.
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I just want someone to break a Stone Chiseled Ten Commandments in front of it. It wouldn't get through to the Trumpeteers and the Kowtowing Republicans, but to Independents and Lite Republicans (how few there are), especially the Religious, they might get the picture of how far gone the Republican Party is.