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Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#356851: Feb 22nd 2021 at 9:37:51 AM

The GOP will suffer in votes and elections...if and only if the assertion that a sufficiently gerrymandered majority of the U.S population is not completely willing to vote for a self about white supremacist by name.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#356852: Feb 22nd 2021 at 9:40:33 AM

I'm not so sure. Maybe at the national level but state and local levels seem to be all in for Trump.

TobiasDrake Queen of Good Things, Honest (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
Queen of Good Things, Honest
#356853: Feb 22nd 2021 at 9:45:39 AM

Republicans will not let Trump destroy the party by splitting the base and making his own third party. They'll bend the knee as they always have. Trump is the GOP for the foreseeable future.

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Izeinsummer Since: Jan, 2015
#356854: Feb 22nd 2021 at 9:48:27 AM

That.. will either destroy the GOP anyway or destroy the USA. What, are they just hoping he will have a heart attack?

TobiasDrake Queen of Good Things, Honest (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
Queen of Good Things, Honest
#356855: Feb 22nd 2021 at 9:51:41 AM

They're hoping to survive the next election with their seats intact. Nothing matters more than that.

This is not a Machiavellian master plan. It's desperation to survive. They made this bed over the last few decades and now they have to lie in it.

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DeMarquis Who Am I? from Hell, USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
Who Am I?
#356856: Feb 22nd 2021 at 9:53:14 AM

Plus, he can dispense that cash.

"We learn from history that we do not learn from history."
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#356857: Feb 22nd 2021 at 9:56:29 AM

Their plan is to render elections irrelevant, if we're a managed democracy they won't have to deal with getting voted out of office.

"Sandwiches are probably easier to fix than the actual problems" -Hylarn
MorningStar1337 Like reflections in the glass! from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
Like reflections in the glass!
#356858: Feb 22nd 2021 at 9:58:44 AM

So basically the same shortsightedness of the fat cats?

That checks out, but now I'm curious as to if a certain so-called "noble wolf" artist-turned-dictator subverted Gemany's democracy thought similar means.

TobiasDrake Queen of Good Things, Honest (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#356859: Feb 22nd 2021 at 10:00:23 AM

Yes, he did. Years after inciting a violent insurrection, failing, but facing no serious repercussions for it.

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#356860: Feb 22nd 2021 at 10:03:24 AM

No. Back then it was all about the support of the military, the industrialists, and the ruling class. The German public was a lot more authoritarian in their culture than we are today, and public opinion was based on fear of a communist uprising, and of course the effects of the Great Depression.

"We learn from history that we do not learn from history."
Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#356861: Feb 22nd 2021 at 10:04:07 AM

That.. will either destroy the GOP anyway or destroy the USA. What, are they just hoping he will have a heart attack?

It will destroy neither.

It will, however, target minorities.

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from a handcart heading to Hell Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#356862: Feb 22nd 2021 at 10:04:58 AM

Yeah, while Trump lost he didn’t make the entire party loose, as long as the calculation is between “Back Trump and maybe never win the presidency again but keep my deep red seat” and “Don’t back Trump and loose my seat before the party maybe rebuilds in 6 years” they will pick the former.

Some have broken ranks because the choice has changed to being between “Back Trump and maybe get murdered by his next crazy mob that’s can’t tell I’m on his side” and “Don’t back Trump and become politically irrelevant”, but for most they’re still seeing it as the first choice.

The only thing that will break Trump’s hold is elected Republicans fearing for their own lives (which even after the Capitol attack they don’t, they think the attack was a one off) or the party failing so spectacularly because of Trump that Trump’s threat to split the party is the options that costs them less seats.

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#356863: Feb 22nd 2021 at 10:08:01 AM

So basically the same shortsightedness of the fat cats?

That checks out, but now I'm curious as to if a certain so-called "noble wolf" artist-turned-dictator subverted Gemany's democracy thought similar means.

I don't think "end democracy" is shortsighted, if anything it's the opposite.

They recognize the long-term problems their party has, so they've adopted a solution that will solve them.

"Sandwiches are probably easier to fix than the actual problems" -Hylarn
DeMarquis Who Am I? from Hell, USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
Who Am I?
#356864: Feb 22nd 2021 at 10:11:42 AM

If the Republicans simply "back Trump" they lose most of the independents. Let's hope that's what they do.

"We learn from history that we do not learn from history."
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#356865: Feb 22nd 2021 at 10:14:43 AM

"They made this bed over the last few decades and now they have to lie in it."

Made their beds means a lot, trump ´pretty much beat the living shit of them in the politcal equivalent of klingon promotion, this is then falling in like after that.

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Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#356866: Feb 22nd 2021 at 10:20:28 AM

Trump has been referred to as a symptom. Their tumor might have grown huge way faster than they imagined, but he is basically the logical conclusion of everything they have been doing since at least Nixon.

Edited by Blueace on Feb 22nd 2021 at 3:22:03 PM

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Pendrake That Guy from "Sweet Something of.... Someplace!" (Canada) Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Betrayed by Delilah
That Guy
#356867: Feb 22nd 2021 at 10:28:17 AM

In any event, it promises to be an eventful year.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-tax-returns-scotus-2-22-20/index.html

CNN News Feed on Trump's Tax Returns.

Psaki's also giving a press conference.

Edited by Pendrake on Feb 22nd 2021 at 10:30:49 AM

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ITNW1989 a from Big Meat, USA Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#356868: Feb 22nd 2021 at 11:48:40 AM

No noted dissent nor comment, and the ruling itself was a one-sentence statement.

TRUMP, DONALD J. V. VANCE, CYRUS R., ET AL.

The application for a stay presented to Justice Breyer and referred to the Court is denied.

Pretty much just the SCOTUS hearing Trump's arguments and going "Nah."

Edited by ITNW1989 on Feb 22nd 2021 at 11:49:53 AM

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#356869: Feb 22nd 2021 at 11:49:29 AM

Uncle Grandpa is now claiming to be a victim of fascism after the taxes decision.

We can assume that Karen was part of the dissenting opinion?

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Pendrake That Guy from "Sweet Something of.... Someplace!" (Canada) Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Betrayed by Delilah
That Guy
#356870: Feb 22nd 2021 at 11:51:43 AM

Hey, don't insult Uncle Grandpa like that, least in his show, he usually tends to care about others.

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Silasw A procrastination in of itself from a handcart heading to Hell Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#356871: Feb 22nd 2021 at 11:53:26 AM

I’m not seeing any mention of a dissent.

"And the Bunny nails it!" ~ Gabrael "If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we." ~ Cyran
Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#356872: Feb 22nd 2021 at 11:54:16 AM

The focus on PRESIDENT Trump?

These guys still haven't gotten over it.

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ITNW1989 a from Big Meat, USA Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#356873: Feb 22nd 2021 at 11:56:41 AM

[up][up] Because there isn't one; the entire ruling is genuinely just that quoteblock of mine.

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#356874: Feb 22nd 2021 at 12:05:53 PM

[up][up]Referring to past presidents as "President [surname]" is fairly common in US media (not sure if this is true elsewhere), so just this once I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.

Edited by PhysicalStamina on Feb 22nd 2021 at 3:06:07 PM

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Silasw A procrastination in of itself from a handcart heading to Hell Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#356875: Feb 22nd 2021 at 12:17:52 PM

Yeah in the US you still get referred to by your old title after you leave office. It’s why Hillary is still called “Secretary Clinton” and Schwarzenegger is still called “governor”.

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