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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
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Also unproductive.
End of the day, all the key players on the impeachment discussion in Washington already have ironclad stances that they've taken. This isn't really a "write your congressman" topic or a "spread the word" one. It's not even a "remember this for next election" topic, because impeachment will be moot in 2020.
So when the conversation comes around to impeachment, the inevitable result is an awful lot of fighting over something that, ultimately, none of us can actually influence in even the slightest of ways.
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What exactly are we supposed to do then?
Just hope by some miracle that Trump isn't re-elected? 'Cause that's not the likely outcome, given this country's track record
Edited by MrHellboy on Sep 21st 2019 at 1:12:45 PM
I guess, after a night of pillaging and raping, a Viking wants a little something to go with his cocoa.
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> Just hope by some miracle that Trump isn't re-elected?
The people voted him in,and they can vote him out again,that's the nature of politics
(translation,yes that's about all we can do)
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Trump's Original victory was because a lot of Voter Apathy, and even then, he lost the Popular Vote, winning only due to special laws in the American Electoral system.
Now, with most of the country being outright negative against him, boldened Democrats and other things, with the most moderate Democrat having "Let's return to the Pre Trump days" as his main goal....
Seriously, Trump has low chances of winning. He still can, but it would need a lot to do that.
Edited by KazuyaProta on Sep 21st 2019 at 1:17:17 PM
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State of Mind
If you're American, then get out the vote, canvas for candidates, donate to the nominee, phone bank, organize rallies, fight voter suppression, spam your Facebook with pro Democrat memes.
When that's all done, when election night has arrived and you've dropped off your ballot, then you wait and hope.
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Just hope by some miracle that Trump isn't re-elected? 'Cause that's not the likely outcome, given this country's track record
Bluntly, yes. That's all we can do.
Impeachment will not remove him from office, that's not how it works.
Have you seriously been thinking that impeachment would get him out of office and we've been sitting on it?
The debate isn't about whether we should remove Trump from office, it's about whether the benefits of making a failed attempt outweigh the risks.
Edited by LeGarcon on Sep 21st 2019 at 2:21:45 PM
Oh really when?
The issue of impeachment for a lot of people is effectively simply establishing he deserves to be censured historically.
But the issue for a lot of Americans is Trump winning because of voter suppression and an insufficiently motivated Democratic base due to the lack of a candidate reacting with the propert level of anger. If someone has torched your house, you won't vote for the one who torches your house, but you might not vote for the man who doesn't react by promising to arrest them.
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When the majority of Americans don't believe he should be arrested and the attempt to do so will fail and will be seen as a triumphant victory for him and proof of his innocence then the value of making that promise is questionable.
Not to mention that even if we do win the election the odds of us being able to punish him once he's out of office are pretty minuscule.
Trump is going to walk away from this without seeing justice. It's disgusting but we have to just deal with it and focus on undoing the damage and helping people rebuild their torched house.
Oh really when?
Like I said, Pelosi is wrong.
Not arresting him or his cronies is hurting the Democratic Party. Every time they don't, they validate Trump and make him stronger. The Democrats don't believe what he has done is a crime is the message they are sending to the public and it has made it not a crime.
Her logic is circular and much more effective at legitimizing Trump than a failed attempt to prosecute.
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You know that no debating impeachment message should probably be pinned after all
Oh really when?
Just a harmless giant from a foreign land.
You want Trump out? Get people to vote against him. Don't expect Impeachment to come and take care of it like a magic button. If its done or not, Trump won't be gotten rid off by it.
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Sorry, I'm not trying to debate it.
Nor would it be a matter of getting him out. It's the same issue with the fact virtually any legislation that would help Americans and the Senate. Mitch will not do any of it because he does not want Americans to be helped.
I still think the Congressmen should do it.
Edited by CharlesPhipps on Sep 21st 2019 at 11:44:20 AM
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Disasturbator
Even if your not trying to debate it you keep bring it up!
Anyway
Sanders has a plan to remove the medical debt many American owe,below is the relevant part
"Under the plan, Sanders says he would negotiate and pay off past-due medical bills in collections that credit agencies have reported. A Sanders administration would also ban the collection of medical debts beyond the statute of limitations and instruct the Internal Revenue Service to conduct a review of the billing and collection practices of the nearly 3,000 non-profit hospitals, his campaign said"
"Sanders is also vowing to use the bankruptcy court system and allow people to adjudicate debt stemming from payments to providers and insurers for medical expenses. He said he would also remove medical debt from credit reports and end credit checking for rental housing, employment, insurance and other non-lending practices.
How feasible is this?
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I just saw an advertisement for an Official "socialism approval" poll, if anyone wants to rant using a fake name and email address.
They even have a little box for "Anything else you would like to tell President Trump.
Edited by megaeliz on Sep 21st 2019 at 3:08:13 PM
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Pretty sure they don't even look at the polls and comment boxes people fill out. They just want the email address so they can spam you.
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Spam and sell your details on too
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Industrious Incisors
Well, I hope nobody’s using the email address “bob@bob.bob” then.
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here's a good, free, temporary email service
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x4 Basically a bunch of hilariously awful survey questions. (Complete WITH random capitalization.
- Would you say you have an unfavorable or favorable view of socialism?
- Favorable
- Unfavorable
- Which type of country would you prefer the United States be?
- A thriving Capitalist country
- A radical Socialist country
- Who do you think has a better vision for America’s future?
- President Donald Trump
- Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
- President Donald Trump
- A socialist Democrat
- Yes
- No
- Do you have a problem with American taxpayer dollars being used to give illegal aliens FREE healthcare?
- Yes
- No
- Do you agree with President Trump that Democrats have become the party of OPEN BORDERS?
- Yes
- No
- Would you be upset if YOUR taxes were raised in order to pay for more welfare programs for illegal immigrants?
- Yes
- No
- Would you be upset if YOUR taxes being raised in order to pay for socialist programs like the $92 TRILLION Green New Deal?
- Yes
- No
Edited by megaeliz on Sep 21st 2019 at 3:25:03 PM
The Spectre Monk
Sorry. Didn't mean to cause trouble.
It just seems like the Democrats don't want to do anything except wring their hands and whine about wanting to be civil, while the Republicans will do anything and everything to get what they want. It's very frustrating
I guess, after a night of pillaging and raping, a Viking wants a little something to go with his cocoa.
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Frankly they won and there's not much we can do.
Even if we wanted to be as underhanded as possible our options are pretty much nonexistent.
Oh really when?
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Edited by nombretomado on Sep 21st 2019 at 12:31:21 PM
Just a harmless giant from a foreign land.
Yes because the Dems did not succesfully defend ACA and other stuff. Its just a steep uphill battle to do anything with Evil Turtle in the Senate and Trump having allures of Dictatorship.
Edited by 3of4 on Sep 21st 2019 at 9:32:48 PM
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Right. It's not that Democrats aren't doing anything, it's that there's no a whole hell of a lot they can do with only the House of Representatives.
Fair enough,as far as I'm concerned the only way someone within his party could oppose him and hope to win is by being a demagogue like him
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