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Apr 23rd 2019 at 2:37:32 PM

Here’s my initial thought- who becomes a Biden fan that doesn’t already like him??? What new voters is he going to engage? I may be wrong, could be just wishful thinking, but I think he’s going to start at a high point and then plateau or fall.

CharlesPhipps Author from Ashland, Ky Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
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Apr 23rd 2019 at 2:40:39 PM

I think the primary appeals of Biden are:

  • Name recognition
  • Democratic Super-Delegate Support
  • Association with Obama
  • Lack of "controversy" economically (which we need a lot of) like the stink of socialism that Warren and Bernie have to deal with)
  • Experience
  • Perceived electability

I see him as the compromise candidate that has a strong advantage over the others.

And he's close to the worst guy given the state of the economy and improving issues for minorities.

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Apr 23rd 2019 at 2:42:35 PM

Reluctant Trump voters? The people who don't like Trump and who don't want to vote for a woman? Also left leaning voters who think Warren et al go too far? These people do exist.

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Apr 23rd 2019 at 2:43:24 PM

I suppose the people he's most interested in are the ones who grew with Obama Presdency,have no memory of Bush and see him as reassuring return to the era they're familiar with,so fairly young voters

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Edited by Ultimatum on Apr 23rd 2019 at 9:44:20 AM

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CharlesPhipps Author from Ashland, Ky Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
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Apr 23rd 2019 at 2:44:14 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if there's not a lot of people who have buyers remorse for Trump. People who assumed he would be an economic wizard or drain the swamp.

I mean, there had to be SOME people who didn't vote for him because of racism.

Or people who were horrified by the children in cages thing.

Even a few percent would be a big deal.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Apr 23rd 2019 at 2:45:17 AM

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Apr 23rd 2019 at 2:45:33 PM

> Or people who were horrified by the children in cages thing.

To be honest I have seen some people dismiss the cages thing as hysteria unless they actually see it for themselves,which problematic to say the least

Edited by Ultimatum on Apr 23rd 2019 at 9:46:23 AM

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CharlesPhipps Author from Ashland, Ky Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
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Apr 23rd 2019 at 2:46:14 PM

Which is why I'm glad it was shared so far and wide.

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Apr 23rd 2019 at 2:47:54 PM

Honestly, the democrats should use the recordings of the crying children on their attack adds...as despicable as it is to use them for marketing, it will be a constant reminder who the victims of the Trump administration are (and that most of them still haven't been reunited with their families).

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Apr 23rd 2019 at 2:52:49 PM

Just out of pure interest, who do you think was the last genuinely good president?

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Apr 23rd 2019 at 2:53:45 PM

Who are you asking?

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Apr 23rd 2019 at 2:53:48 PM

I think Obama is the best president of my lifetime and one of the best period.

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Apr 23rd 2019 at 2:54:42 PM

Everybody

[up] Why? I mean, he didn't exactly fulfill every promise he made (looking at you, Guantanamo)

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Apr 23rd 2019 at 2:56:36 PM

Name one president that managed to do absolutely everything they said they would.

Ultimatum ◕ ◡ ◕ Disasturbator from England Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
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Apr 23rd 2019 at 2:57:12 PM

Well he would have closed it were it not for the republicans in congress,so it's hardly his fault

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Edited by Ultimatum on Apr 23rd 2019 at 9:57:38 AM

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CharlesPhipps Author from Ashland, Ky Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
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Apr 23rd 2019 at 2:57:33 PM

I think he set the Democratic Party on a much different and better path as well as paved the way for the reformation we're seeing with the next generation of politicians.

I have my criticisms of Obama but I think he changed a lot of how America dealt with things or at least tried to.

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany
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Apr 23rd 2019 at 2:57:40 PM

Sure. I guess in Obama's case it was just personal disappointment, in my case. He promised to change so much, and in the end he was still running the same old establishment crap.

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Apr 23rd 2019 at 2:57:44 PM

"Last genuinely good President" is obviously Obama. He wasn't perfect, but "good" is not a high bar to clear, and he clears that easily. It's kind of a bad question, really.

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Apr 23rd 2019 at 2:58:39 PM

That's putting your standards pretty high, especially when the reason he couldn't do a lot of the things he wanted to do was because he had to work around a hostile congress for 3/4 of his presidency.

Like, Obama did his job; it's not his fault if the rest of the government doesn't.

But yeah, I don't think there's much room to argue with the idea that Obama was the best president of my lifetime. The only one where that takes more than single sentence to prove is Clinton.

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Apr 23rd 2019 at 2:59:19 PM

Ultimatum makes a good point; remember that Obama could've done so much more were it not for Republicans stonewalling him every chance they got.

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Edited by PhysicalStamina on Apr 23rd 2019 at 5:59:54 AM

Apr 23rd 2019 at 3:19:07 PM

Obama did what others failed to do for decades by introducing the ACA. That alone would put him high in the list. But I also happen to think that the Iran deal was a good thing (or would have been one if not for Trump ruining it). And then there is DACA.

None of this went as far as they should have, but they went at least in the right direction and further than what any other president during my lifetime did.

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Apr 23rd 2019 at 3:41:25 PM

The IRS has failed to give Trump's Tax Returns to the House Ways and Means Committee, based on the hard deadline set by the Chairman Richard Neal (D-MA). This also violates the Internal Revenue Code.

Expect subpoenas for Trump's Taxes, and possibly even arrest warrants for members of the IRS, and possibly even Treasurer Sec. Steve Mnuchin.

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Apr 23rd 2019 at 3:43:30 PM

I'm sure William Barr will be in a big hurry to enforce those.

Trump's tested a lot of his Presidential hard limits over the last two years. Right now he's dabbling in, "Since I own all the cops, what happens if I just ignore laws?"

So we slide nearer to authoritarianism.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Apr 23rd 2019 at 4:50:05 AM

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Apr 23rd 2019 at 4:04:33 PM

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Apr 23rd 2019 at 4:13:15 PM

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sgamer82 from Meridian, ID
Apr 23rd 2019 at 4:38:55 PM

Sure. I guess in Obama's case it was just personal disappointment, in my case. He promised to change so much, and in the end he was still running the same old establishment crap.
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