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#272376: Feb 21st 2019 at 6:53:56 AM

Trump didn't know that his administration was pushing to decriminalize homosexuality around the world.

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DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#272377: Feb 21st 2019 at 6:55:02 AM

Historian who confronted Davos billionaires leaks Tucker Carlson rant

Rutger Bregman is the Dutch historian who became a global sensation after an appearance at this year’s Davos summit, where he accused attending billionaires of ignoring taxation. Now he has created another viral moment in an extremely uncomfortable interview with Fox News’s Tucker Carlson.

Bregman so riled Carson with his accusations of hypocrisy, critiques of Fox’s conservative agenda, and attacks on Donald Trump that the TV host called him a “moron” and angrily told him: “Go fuck yourself.”

According to Bregman, he recorded the interview with Carlson last week and it was scheduled to air later, but never did.

Now This has obtained Bregman’s own recording of the exchange, where only the audio of Carlson’s questions can be heard.

The interview begins cordially, and Carlson congratulates Bregman on pointing out the hypocrisy of Davos attendees “who fly business to talk about global warming”. Bregman says he is just saying what most people in the world, including Fox News viewers, are thinking.

Things become tense when Bregman tells Carlson that Fox News has tended to ignore tax because “what the Murdochs want you to do is scapegoat immigrants instead of talking about tax avoidance”. No, wealth isn’t created at the top. It is merely devoured there Rutger Bregman Read more

Bregman then accuses Carlson of being bought by the Murdoch family and the Cato Institute, a rightwing thinktank of which Carlson was a fellow until 2015. Bregman says Tucker took the “dirty money” of the institute, which is funded in large part by the Koch brothers and opposes higher taxes.

He says Carlson is “a millionaire funded by billionaires” and “not part of the solution” but “part of the problem, actually”.

Bregman finishes by acknowledging that the interview probably wouldn’t be aired, but saying that he “went to Davos to speak truth to power and I’m doing exactly the same right now”.

Carlson, near-speechless for much of the interview, replies by saying: “Why don’t you go fuck yourself, you tiny brain. You’re a moron. I tried to give you a hearing but you were too fucking annoying.”

The next day on Twitter, Bregman said he decided to leak the interview to Now This because “we should keep talking about the corrupting influence of money in politics. It also shows how angry elites can get if you do that.”

He also challenged Carlson to air the interview in full.

Bregman has long been making the case for higher taxes, plus a raft of other measures to rethink the way the world works, including a shorter working week and a universal basic income. He was invited to Davos after his book, Utopia for Realists, became a hit with many leaders and Silicon Valley entrepreneurs.

But after spending a week there, he was amazed at many of the attendees’ lack of self-awareness. “It feels like I’m at a firefighters’ conference and no one’s allowed to speak about water”, he said.

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#272378: Feb 21st 2019 at 6:55:31 AM

Everybody wants to rule the world.

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Queen of Good Things, Honest
#272379: Feb 21st 2019 at 7:05:58 AM

Anyone who believes that they can be trusted with absolute power is either lying or a horrible judge of character.

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speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#272380: Feb 21st 2019 at 7:06:40 AM

[up]x3 It doesn't surprise me one iota that Tucker said such a rude thing to a guest. I'm more surprised it doesn't happen more often.

I still contend that watching Tucker followed by Hannity is the single worst thing you can do with two hours of valuable free time. All those programs do is fuel hatred against anyone that isn't a right winger. It's basically the equivalent of "Two Minutes Hate", except a lot longer.

Edited by speedyboris on Feb 21st 2019 at 9:11:10 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Disasturbator
#272381: Feb 21st 2019 at 7:11:38 AM

> how viable would it be to legally declare refusal to vaccinate your children a form of child abuse?

Not very viable unless you have offer conclusive evidence to the authorities that it counts as abuse,it's negligent and irresponsible sure but it's not breaking the law,it's a just a really stupid thing to do that can hurt other people and like we've seen can cause outbreaks

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GoldenKaos Captain of the Dead City from Cirith Ungol Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Captain of the Dead City
#272382: Feb 21st 2019 at 7:28:26 AM

If you want mandatory vaccinations, it's probably easier and less legally iffy to just legislate mandatory vaccinations than it is to go the roundabout way of making anti-vaxxers child abusers.

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#272383: Feb 21st 2019 at 7:48:44 AM

Yup. Mandate the shots, and if parents interfere or resist, then you have cause to bring down the legal hammer.

Still want to nail the quacks and blogger who spread these lies in the first place though.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#272384: Feb 21st 2019 at 7:50:44 AM

Even better, do the shots in the schools, paid for by the government. That's what was done in the past. This way you get every child and it doesn't mean additional hardship for the parents.

GoldenKaos Captain of the Dead City from Cirith Ungol Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Captain of the Dead City
#272385: Feb 21st 2019 at 7:52:15 AM

But teh BIG GOHVEMENT

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#272386: Feb 21st 2019 at 7:56:28 AM

[up][up]That's how we did Hepatitis shots back in Junior High.

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GoldenKaos Captain of the Dead City from Cirith Ungol Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Captain of the Dead City
#272387: Feb 21st 2019 at 8:00:42 AM

That's how we did it too, but y'know. NHS. Socialism.

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#272388: Feb 21st 2019 at 8:08:21 AM

You need some immunizations before school age, though, and those are entirely in the hands of the parents.

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Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#272389: Feb 21st 2019 at 8:11:22 AM

That's fairly uncomplicated to address, make it so students can't be enrolled if they don't have the proper immunizations.

Thus adding a clear incentive to vaccinate your child.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Feb 21st 2019 at 11:11:35 AM

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#272390: Feb 21st 2019 at 8:17:54 AM

Or for the poor widdle baby boo-boos to get homeschooled to keep them away from the evil mainstream culture.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#272391: Feb 21st 2019 at 8:19:43 AM

Or send them to private schools that don't require those.

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#272392: Feb 21st 2019 at 8:20:20 AM

Yeah, I have to agree with Fighteer. Any solution where there's an option B is a bad plan.

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GoldenKaos Captain of the Dead City from Cirith Ungol Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Captain of the Dead City
#272393: Feb 21st 2019 at 8:20:43 AM

Soon, Americans will argue that they need their guns to defend themselves from the government who will come over to vaccinate their children.

"...in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach."
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#272394: Feb 21st 2019 at 8:21:09 AM

I wouldn't be surprised if some of them already do.

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Captain of the Dead City
#272395: Feb 21st 2019 at 8:21:54 AM

Oh, man. Now I'm imagining a post-apoc future where people in the wasteland talk about the vaccination wars.

"...in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach."
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#272396: Feb 21st 2019 at 8:23:09 AM

They will talk about how the anti-vaxxer side ultimately lost because their younger recruits kept getting sick for some unfathomable reason.

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GoldenKaos Captain of the Dead City from Cirith Ungol Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Captain of the Dead City
#272397: Feb 21st 2019 at 8:24:24 AM

It was because the vaccination side cut off their supply of essential oils.

"...in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach."
carbon-mantis Collector Of Fine Oddities from Trumpland Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Married to my murderer
Collector Of Fine Oddities
#272398: Feb 21st 2019 at 9:46:08 AM

There's a few private schools out there that cater to antivax nonsense, ("Waldorf" ones being big ones), how would one circumvent those?

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A procrastination in of itself
#272399: Feb 21st 2019 at 10:14:25 AM

Licence private schools and revoke their licences. I’ve defneded private schooling here in the past, but it should be regulated like state run schools.

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ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#272400: Feb 21st 2019 at 11:05:14 AM

So a couple news items courtesy of Google.

1) Body-cam footage shows an incident in California in which a Deputy returned fire on a man she'd pulled over after he shot at her through his open window. This is the value in those body-cams, folks - defending the cops that are doing their diligence while outing the ones that aren't. Feel free to share around for those that decried the use of body cams (not sure how many there are, though). Thankfully, she wasn't injured, though he died from the retaliation.

2) Roger Stone is back in court after posting an Instagram image of the judge presiding over his case... with crosshairs next to her image with a caption suggesting he wouldn't get a fair trial from her. It remains to be seen just how displeased she is with that development, as she could revoke his bail because of it.

Edited by ironballs16 on Feb 21st 2019 at 2:06:03 PM

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