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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
What are all the candidates slogans anyway?
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Honestly, I'm not worrying about the all the candidates and elections, that much yet. The campaigning has barely gotten started, and we're still finding out who's actually going to run, and many are probably still perfecting their platforms.
There's just not a lot of solid data yet. As the campaigns start to get into full swing, it will give us a better picture of where the candidates and voters stand.
Edited by megaeliz on Feb 20th 2019 at 12:43:54 PM
There have been plenty of slogans that endorse unity without putting the word "me" literally in your slogan. Like... oh, I don't know, "Stronger Together"?
This is akin to taking the podium and going "please, please, everyone, it's not about me, it's about you", and then taking a healthy break for applause.
Edited by RedSavant on Feb 20th 2019 at 12:44:06 PM
It's been fun.
This is 80's cartoon aesop territory. I read it in the voice of He-Man.
Sanders, fire whoever came up with that and go back to the drawing board while there's still time, man.
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It's reverse psychology,when he's it's about them he means it's all about him but he wants people to believe otherwise
It's a clever way to market himself admittedly
New theme music also a box
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Honestly I read it as a way to address people claiming he was egotistical, saying "Its not actually about me! I'm not egotistical! Its about the country!"
I mean, he failed utterly, but humor points for the effort. I'm going to add my name to the pile of those who sees the potential for oh so many jokes.
Edited by AzurePaladin on Feb 20th 2019 at 1:01:03 PM
The awful things he says and does are burned into our cultural consciousness like a CRT display left on the same picture too long. -Fighteer
I don't like being constantly on the defense, specially on something as trivial as I consider a slogan to be, but I've looked through countless pages and found no reference to his campaign having decided on one yet, only late-night show parodies. Could someone provide it?
Edited by Grafite on Feb 20th 2019 at 6:27:20 PM
Life is unfair...
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Rich white guy privilege.
"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
Though it wasn't really a slogan, I liked "For the people".
Warren should perhaps go for something along the line of "Reclaim the (American) Dream". It's her big thing after all.
That's assuming there was something to reclaim to begin with.
I'll be honest, I think the American dream is something worth reclaiming. Our high ideals define our direction and America has some very high ideals. We have stumbled, but not because our ideals are bad, but because we are imperfect creatures living in a imperfect world.
From Wikipedia: The American Dream is a national ethos of the United States, the set of ideals (democracy, rights, liberty, opportunity and equality) in which freedom includes the opportunity for prosperity and success, as well as an upward social mobility for the family and children, achieved through hard work in a society with few barriers.
The American Dream was a crock.
Edited by kkhohoho on Feb 20th 2019 at 12:58:47 PM
Ah yes, and that means the ideal of a society where anyone can be successful if they work hard is worthless and incompatible with progressive values and messages!
You're being ridiculous. -_-
"Sandwiches are probably easier to fix than the actual problems" -Hylarn
It was a false ideal to begin with.
Sure, decades and democratic governments could change that, but that won't change that it began as just what it was called: a dream.
It's one thing to make a spectacle. It's another to make a difference.
Ideals aren't false if they are unattained or even unattainable, they are false if they are unworthy of our commitment. I think that democracy, rights, liberty, opportunity, equality, and a better life for our children are worthy of our commitment.
Sure, decades and democratic governments could change that, but that won't change that it began as just what it was called: a dream.
This in no way contradicts anything I said.
"Sandwiches are probably easier to fix than the actual problems" -Hylarn
The big problem with making the american dream more attainable is some people's reluctance to accept that it was a half-truth at best. Realistically the vast majority of people have no chance of ever becoming a millionaire, but they've clung to that idea and supported policies that don't benefit them in the hopes that they will benefit them when they "make it". And they never do.
Given how higher taxes on the rich seems to be more popular now, I think this may be starting to chance.
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
I mean, what do you mean by "unworthy of our commitment"? Because if you mean ideals that are horrific, then I'd say that the opposite of what you said is true. I'd generally define a false ideal as one that's unreachable, rather than one that's awful. Something can be horrible and evil, but still achievable.
Sure, but that's where reclaiming it comes in.
Instead of aping the Republican line of "the American dream exists and we're living it" we could rather easily repurpose it to represent an ideal that should be pursued.
"Sandwiches are probably easier to fix than the actual problems" -Hylarn
The thing is that Americans want to belief in the American dream. They don't want to be told that they have been conned. So saying "we have lost the sight of our big ideal, and it is high time to fix it (by reigning in the big corporations)" is exactly the kind of message which a lot of voters should be happy to hear. and with Warren's long standing history of someone who fights for customer rights and the people which were betrayed while seeking the American dream, she can represent this message in a believable manner.
What I mean is that they are things that shouldn't be pursued, like racism or slavery might fit into that sort of category. An ideal is a standard to strive for, but often they are unreachable partly because it's a moving target. We are living in a democracy, but it's a significantly less then perfect one. If we want to achieve the ideal of democracy, there are things we need to change. However, some of the flaws in our system only became apparent after we had worked through them for a while. I'm not sure sure that the ideal of democracy is achievable, but it's still worthy of us perusing it. We are never going to be perfect, but we should want to be perfect.
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Not sure what to make of this
I guess, after a night of pillaging and raping, a Viking wants a little something to go with his cocoa.
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
Ah, okay. I thought so.
Well, I can understand your argument, though I don't think I completely agree with it, at least in the sense that a dream you can't reach is a "true" ideal.
Though perhaps it would be unfair to say that it's simply false...
Edited by KarkatTheDalek on Feb 20th 2019 at 2:39:12 PM
Oh God! Natural light!
There is a difference between acknowledging the rights of the individual and the toxic mess that is American Rugged Individualism.
Give people rights but don't declare them to be atomized individuals who are dependent on no-one, that's just an excuse to blame the victim whenever life gives you a bad turn. Society exists, it's composed of all of us, and everyone should be assisted to reach prosperity.
That is the sentiment that American individualism opposes.
"Sandwiches are probably easier to fix than the actual problems" -Hylarn