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BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive
The Fastest Man Alive
Nov 11th 2018 at 10:15:44 AM

Very few games actually get a high finish percentage. Only 54% of players have finished Spider-Man. 17.6% have finished Alien: Isolation. 42% have finished the story of Injustice 2, and thatís only about five hours long, and you need to do it to unlock on of the characters (or pay extra for him).

Game completionís not common at all.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands
Nov 11th 2018 at 10:34:20 AM

I'm especially confused by the notion that the Ghost did not intend to have two major characters killed, despite all evidence pointing to the contrary. It especially leaves questions about why Phoibe was killed by the Cult.

RedSavant Demon
Nov 11th 2018 at 10:45:09 AM

I got the feeling it was supposed to be the "main" faction that she defected from, or who took over, but it was honestly so poorly explained that I'm actually not sure.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands
Nov 11th 2018 at 1:01:48 PM

So if Aspasia didn't want Phoibe dead (presumably, as I speculated, because the girl was a bit too clever for her own good), then why did the Cult go out of it's way to kill her? Same with Perikles, where Aspasia raises all sorts of red flags, being very conveniently in the right place to make bad things happen.

I hear the DLC isn't going too well. There was supposed to be a mercenary DLC that they couldn't implement right, and they added three DLC trophies, of which two have a zero percent rating, meaning that the DLC didn't work, presumably.

And I'm a bit dissapointed by the legendary ship DLC they did manage to put in. It's hardly Black Flag legendary... And the ship which was supposed to be a new trireme model looked the same as any other ship to me.

I don't know how to feel about clearing all locations not being a part of 100 percent. If you don't need to do them, then why bother with dozens and dozens of cookie cutter camps?

And I'm starting to detest the loot system. I'm drowning in loot. And it starts to look all the same to me. Why do I need to periodically have to go to the blacksmith to sell literally hundreds of useless pieces of armor and weapons, one by one? Can we go back to where we have, like, a dozen or two sets of armor and weapons? Or what also would really help with this is if new pieces of gear would automatically replace an identical, lower level item. That would really reduce the piles of vendor trash equipment.

RedSavant Demon
Nov 11th 2018 at 4:17:15 PM

^It makes about as much sense as anything else relating to the Cult, honestly. And this includes the at least two members who will speak to you, tell you they're Cultists, then turn around and show you their backs. (The Master and the Olympian judge from the main storyline, who will trade threats with you before wandering around deserted roads at night by themselves.)

I also miss set gear pieces. Part of me not doing much with the game once I hit level 50 was the realization that I had gotten my last Pirate piece at level 32 or so and that the set was now prohibitively expensive to upgrade and make competitive, and so I clown suited my way through the entire game.

Edited by RedSavant on Nov 11th 2018 at 7:18:59 AM

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands
Nov 11th 2018 at 5:57:49 PM

So, here I am, hunting the Kalydonian Boar. Entire articles have been written about how ferocious this beast is, among the hardest fights in the game. So I gear up, stacking my equipment with warrior damage, animal damage, and poison bonuses, as well as making my sword damage turn into poison damage, take a deep breath, and go in for what I'm told is a nightmare of a fight.

My first volley of attacks takes off four fifths of it's health.

It has just enough time to summon four more boars before I end it's life with another fierce attack.

The four little ones didn't even have time to make their first attack yet.

Clearly, I am VERY overpowered for this one, at least. grin

RedSavant Demon
Nov 11th 2018 at 6:23:43 PM

The Kalydonian Boar is the first of the legendary beasts you can fight, isn't it?

Similarly, I had no trouble with the Hyena because I nailed it with three or four Devastating Shot headshots before it got anywhere near me. I almost felt bad for not getting to see how it fought, but I was wrapping up at that point anyway.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands
Nov 11th 2018 at 7:22:39 PM

The Hyena is another of those animals who cheat with their hitbox, as it is clearly much smaller than the model, even more blatantly so than the boars. It's really telling that your sword visibly just goes straight through without hitting it. Oddly, after it died, the Hyena model disappeared, leaving a more generic wolf behind, which was obviously much smaller.

The Nemean Lion was acting... weird. It kept backing up and roaring at me, and several times seemed to be unable to attack me. The weirdest thing was that it seemed to stun itself with it's lunges several times as well.

I think, in the end, the Hind and Wolf were the hardest, the former because it is so nimble, the latter because it just summons more and more wolves while it keeps it's distance.

So now I'm queen of the Amazons Daughters of Artemis, so the most dangerous faction of the game won't attack me anymore. And have Death Arrows. Neat.

Bit of a shame I've practically run out of things to do with either, though...

Edited by Redmess on Nov 11th 2018 at 4:30:44 PM

Nov 12th 2018 at 1:18:50 AM

Yeah it's a nice payoff if you go with them. They are a PAIN to fight. All the fire and poison really knocks you back.

I found the poison boar the hardest to tackle. The Hyena has a few tells - the way it charges and leaps. The boar, on the other hand, just squirts poison if you let it and has that weird hitbox for hitting YOU but is really hard to score hits on.

On RDR 2 and Spellforce 3 at the mo, but will revisit this for the Cyclops event and the upcoming DLC (The VA's are doing more Mo Cap for it apparently)

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands
Nov 12th 2018 at 1:19:20 PM

Defeated the last three Olympos monsters. Medusa was the most difficult, she teleports a lot, especially when low on health, and adrenaline is hard to come by for some reason.

I feel the whole Medusa tragedy was a bit forced. You could have told her the truth (which a mission specifically tasks you to find out) and warn her not to go in, but the game never allows this. Fake choice is one thing, but this was not a choice at all.

Is the Olympos project explained more elsewhere? Because the game doesn't really explain it that well.

What, after ALL that effort and anticipation, we don't even get to SEE Atlantis? What a fakeout.

I don't know where that troper on the work page got the idea that the Spear of Hermes Trismegistus can transform, because it is clearly still a spear in the present.

Found a weird error in the game: when you go back to Atlantis after the end of the game, Pythagoras' body is still there... holding the Staff of Hermes Trismegistus! Which you have in your inventory at that point.

Edited by Redmess on Nov 12th 2018 at 10:19:42 AM

RedSavant Demon
Nov 12th 2018 at 4:26:24 PM

^Forced tragedy seems to be what this game does the most. I understand not giving Kass/Alexios the ability to smooth-talk their way to peace between Athens and Sparta - they're an angry person and have had a hard life. But yeah, there are so many sidequests where you just merrily watch someone ride off without saying the single sentence that would keep them from getting horribly murdered.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands
Nov 21st 2018 at 12:48:08 AM

I think I found another way in which "choice" has messed up some of the story of Odyssey. Remember that plague family you have to save or let die? One of the children is explicitly stated to be friends with Phoibe. And then Phoibe follows you to Athens, and a little later, a plague breaks out in Athens.

I think the player was supposed to always save that family, so that Phoibe could then spread the plague to Athens and cause it's downfall. That was going to be another part of the greater tragedy.

Of course, that was one of the first things that was spoiled about the choice system, so now pretty much everyone lets that family be killed, I suppose, which ruins the tragedy of the situation. That's a clear example of choice hampering rather than aiding the story.

RedSavant Demon
Nov 21st 2018 at 1:53:46 AM

I don't think that's precisely the case; the fever on Kephallonia seems to be some kind of malarial parasite if I remember the Historical Site notes correctly, while the plague in Athens is all but spelled out to be the bubonic plague or a similar boil-causing disease.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands
Nov 27th 2018 at 7:28:05 AM

Lots of updates. The level cap has been raised to 70 (which was REALLY needed with just how much things you could do long after reaching level 50), the Adrestia has more upgrades, and a lot of fixes to bugs, including hitboxes.

Most interesting, you can now customize the look of your gear and weapons, so you don't look like a rummage sale reject anymore. I seem to be missing some pieces of this and that armor, though, and no clue how to get it. Even more annoying, it doesn't give the name of the piece you don't have yet, just the picture.

blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
Nov 27th 2018 at 7:18:32 PM

I think you may also have to have it in your inventory.

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
Redmess Redmess from Netherlands
Nov 28th 2018 at 4:16:48 AM

No, the update specifically states that you can sell or dismantle gear and still retain the visual for later use.

I suspect this was specifically put into place so that players wouldn't feel inclined to keep a copy of every single variant of armour/weapons as collectible.

Nov 28th 2018 at 7:46:25 AM

So new trailer dropped for the DLC... December 4th by the way:

So it looks rather fun! PERSIANS! SPARTA! IMMORTALS! Clear Eva Green expy from the 300 sequel!

I get the feeling this one will be more stealth focused than the main (or at least an attempt towards it)

Ghilz Fight it Out! from The Moon, Or Canada Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Fight it Out!
Nov 28th 2018 at 7:48:12 AM

Well Eva Green's character was based on an actual figure, Artemesia, who really did join Xerxes. If the dude with the blade is Darius (who killed Xerxes and King Darius), as expected, it'd make sense it'd flash back to her.

Interesting is that the Hidden Blade here is different from Bayek's. Yet Bayek's was supposed to have been Darius'.

Edited by Ghilz on Nov 28th 2018 at 10:54:22 AM

Nov 28th 2018 at 8:09:41 AM

[up] Wonder if it just got "refined"... or if the assassins have been wearing it wrong this whole time. But under the wrist is better for throat strikes I suppose.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands
Nov 28th 2018 at 8:59:48 AM

Actually, over the wrist would make more sense, since then you can throat punch an enemy with the blade without your hand getting in the way of the knife or dampening your blow.

Was that Greek fire? I want that on my ship. grin

I am debating whether or not to get the season pass now and play one episode at a time, or play all the episodes at once once they all come out.

So who else here have finished the game? And did you buy a season pass?

RedSavant Demon
Nov 28th 2018 at 9:10:49 AM

I've finished the game, and uninstalled it. My save might still be there or it might not, but I felt like I got my money's worth.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands
Nov 28th 2018 at 10:34:00 AM

Your save should still be there, unless you went out of your way to delete that, too.

Cris_Meyers reluctant author, willing misanthrope from Chicagoland Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
reluctant author, willing misanthrope
Nov 28th 2018 at 3:31:33 PM

Well, Origins is a couple of centuries after Odyssey, so it could just be a "we're pretty sure this belonged to Darius..."

Though Rule of Cool is probably a better explanation.

I nabbed the Pass. I know, I know, they're the root of everything wrong with video games, apparently, but it didn't actually cost me anything. This looks pretty interesting.

I got a good 130 hours out of the first playthrough, and got a little ways into a second with Alexios before moving on to something different. Anything the DL Cs can provide me is gravy at this point.

rmctagg09 The Wanderer (he/him) from Brooklyn, NY Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer (he/him)
Dec 3rd 2018 at 9:12:30 PM

So it would appear that our main adversaries are probably the Persian Templar predecessor.

Hugging a Vanillite will give you frostbite. "The wheel will turn ever more, but I see pain. I see victory, but pain.
Ghilz Fight it Out! from The Moon, Or Canada Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Fight it Out!
Dec 3rd 2018 at 9:31:16 PM

Huh, so the DLC is episodic

Also REALLY not fond of raising the level cap.

I paid a lot to level all my armors to 50. And sort of pissed that I'm gonna have to do that again.

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