First thing's first: KEEP. THIS. SHIT. CIVIL. If you can't talk about race without resorting to childish insults and rude generalizations or getting angry at people who don't see it your way, leave the thread.
With that said, I bring you to what can hopefully be the general thread about race.
First, a few starter questions.
- How, if at all, do you feel your race affects your everyday life?
- Do you believe that white people (or whatever the majority race in your area is) receive privileges simply because of the color of their skin. How much?
- Do you believe minorities are discriminated against for the same reason? How much?
- Do you believe that assimilation of cultures is better than people trying to keep their own?
- Affirmative Action. Yea, Nay? Why or why not?
Also, a personal question from me.
- Why (in my experience, not trying to generalize) do white people often try to insist that they aren't white? I can't count the number of times I've heard "I'm not white, I'm 1/4th English, 1/4th German, 1/4th Scandinavian 1/8th Cherokee, and 1/8th Russian," as though 4 of 5 of those things aren't considered "white" by the masses. Is it because you have pride for your ancestry, or an attempt to try and differentiate yourself from all those "other" white people? Or something else altogether?
edited 30th May '11 9:16:04 PM by Wulf
More racist self-victimization.
To pity someone is to tell them "I feel bad about being better than you."I was going to say "k I think his account's security may have been compromised" but then I read he had said something similar before
yikes
Edited by Ultimatum on Feb 22nd 2020 at 2:40:17 PM
New theme music also a boxWhat kind of games do these guys even make?
There's one called Hero Siege whoch I bought a quite a long while ago but it mostly just gathers dust in my Steam library.
I don't even knows what it is about, I think it's a The Biding of Isaac-style top-down roguelike.
Yeah this CEO guy is straight up delusional, half of the stories he is mentioning there sounds fake as fuck.
Apparently he also was harassing women on Discord too with misogynistic bigotry.
Edited by Wispy on Feb 22nd 2020 at 9:17:04 AM
I just read comments under that tweet and by god, there are already people defending this guy and saying "i'm going to buy his game to support him".
It's Twitter, what do you expect.
To pity someone is to tell them "I feel bad about being better than you."Those people would exist and be just as bad even without Twitter.
SoundCloudYou’re assuming that they’re actual people and not a dozen bots controlled by a single asshole.
"And the Bunny nails it!" ~ Gabrael "If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we." ~ CyranI was just notified that scumbag Chris 'The Crying Nazi' Cantwell is in prison again, due to some kind of Nazi Civil War?
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/christopher-cantwell-arrested-crying-nazi_n_5e29e32ec5b6779e9c2f5f17
Hope this time he rots there.
Certified: 48.0% West Asian, 6.5% South Asian, 15.8% North/West European, 15.7% English, 7.4% Balkan, 6.6% ScandinavianPeople are unfortunately that stupid and hateful :/
Let it never be said that incessant factionalism is unique to the far-left, the far-right is at best equally bad.
"Sandwiches are probably easier to fix than the actual problems" -HylarnCue "Let Them Fight" meme?
Edited by sgamer82 on Feb 22nd 2020 at 1:59:20 PM
The far right is as divided as it can get.
The genuine Neo Nazis have actually abandoned their support for Trump quite some time ago, because he isn't racist enough (mostly because he supports Israel and 'gave' his daughter to a Jew).
And due to their own Paranoia, there have been dozens of civil wars among them. Cantwell has also gotten into a fight with the Daily Stormer some time ago, just for example.
Its just the mainstream conservatives / Republicans that stand unified behind Trump (and they are unfortunately still the largest group amongst the right wing).
Edited by Forenperser on Feb 22nd 2020 at 10:12:17 AM
Certified: 48.0% West Asian, 6.5% South Asian, 15.8% North/West European, 15.7% English, 7.4% Balkan, 6.6% ScandinavianThat is because the alt right is not movement in the strict sense of the word, more a tendency that crop up and that overlap some thing but no other, so you have troll bigots who dosent care about nazism but want to "troll the left" other are genuite nazis,etc,etc.
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"Naomi Seibt: 'anti-Greta' activist called white nationalist an inspiration
Naomi Seibt, a 19-year-old from Münster, Germany, who styles herself as a “climate realist”, has also had to deny she made remarks that could be seen as antisemitic following an attack on a synagogue last year.
Seibt has been described as the darling of climate change deniers and spoke at a small side event of the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) – a high-profile annual meeting of rightwing activists in Washington that will also feature the US president, Donald Trump.
She has been called a young, fresh voice for “free markets and climate realism” for questioning the scientific consensus on the climate crisis, which she has called “ridiculous”.
“Today climate change science really is not science at all,” Seibt has said. “The goal [of climate scientists] is to shame humanity. Climate change alarmism at its very core is a despicably anti-human ideology and we are told to look down at our achievements with guilt, with shame and disgust, and not even to take into account the many major benefits we have achieved by using fossil fuels as our main energy source.”
An examination of the young activist’s You Tube videos and interviews has revealed that Seibt has shown support for an alt-right activist.
In a You Tube discussion last year that was highlighted in a report by the German broadcaster ZDF, Seibt discussed an attack on a synagogue in Halle that killed two people who were outside the temple, and said Jews were considered to be “at the top” of groups who were seen as being oppressed. “Ordinary Germans”, she said, were “at the bottom”. Muslims, she added, were somewhere in between.
The remarks were part of a video discussion that appears to have been deleted. They were seen by some experts as saying that Germans had less pity for “ordinary German” victims of crime than for Jews and Muslims. A portion of the discussion was included in a report by ZDF and is still available online.
Seibt did not respond to a request for comment from the Guardian, although her mother argued she is not a supporter of the far right.
At the conservative event, Seibt was asked twice about this article. She called it “ridiculous how the media cherrypicks things that I said” and said she is not an antisemite.
“In fact, I was commenting that I think it’s wrong to comment on different races and to view them differently,” Seibt said. “We should just all be regarded as the same. That is what I was actually saying, that is how I perceived the public view on different races or different religions.”
“It is clear that she is articulating – no matter how inarticulately – age-old tropes of Jewish power and white grievance: the idea that Jews are a privileged class and that white people are oppressed by them,” said Imran Ahmed, the chief executive of the Center for Countering Digital Hate, who studied the remarks.
When Seibt was challenged by German reporters about whether the remarks could be seen as antisemitic, Seibt replied: “If someone perceives [my remarks] as meaning something different, well, then of course I cannot influence this perception.”
In another You Tube interview describing her embrace of “views that were outside the mainstream”, Seibt referred to the Canadian alt-right internet activist Stefan Molyneux as an “inspiration”.
Molyneux has been described as an “alleged cult leader who amplifies scientific racism, eugenics and white supremacism” by the Southern Poverty Law Center, which monitors extremism and white supremacy.
Molyneux said in a statement to the Guardian: “I have always opposed the idea of racial superiority/inferiority.”
In 2019, Molyneaux said: “I’ve always been skeptical of the ideas of white nationalism, of identitarianism, and white identity. However, I am an empiricist, and I could not help but notice that I could have peaceful, free, easy, civilized and safe discussions in what is, essentially, an all-white country.”
Seibt defended that comment, saying it was out of context.
“He is not devaluing other races, not at all, he’s just describing his experience in western countries, and I agree with that … it’s not that we are better in any way in western countries, and that’s not the point that Molyneaux is trying to make – it’s just that we still have freedom of speech in these countries, and we’re very happy that’s the case.”
Seibt has been hired by a US thinktank called the Heartland Institute, which has traditionally been financed by fossil fuel and coal companies and is known for pushing radical anti-science theories about the climate crisis.
In 2012, Heartland set up a billboard in Illinois that featured a photograph of the “Unabomber” Ted Kaczynski and the words “I still believe in global warming. Do you?”
The move led to some high-profile defections of corporate sponsors. In another case, the group was criticised for sending hundreds of thousands of “educational pamphlets” to schools across the country that promoted false theories about global heating.
The Mercer Family Foundation, which is run by Rebekah Mercer, a financial donor to Donald Trump and the daughter of the hedge fund mogul Robert Mercer, has previously been one of Heartland’s biggest contributors, with records showing a total of $7.5m in donations since the group’s founding.
Records show that the public backing by the Mercers has waned over the last several years, while another organisation called Donors Trust – and its affiliates – have become Heartland’s primary funder.
Donors Trust and associated organisations have donated more than $20m to Heartland, according to records compiled and analysed by De Smog, which tracks the funding of climate denying groups. The Mercer Family Foundation is a donor to Donors Trust and its affiliates.
Heartland officials did not respond to multiple requests for comment about Seibt, her previous remarks, or questions about who is funding the campaigner’s work for Heartland. The Mercer Family Foundation did not respond to a request for comment about its support for Heartland.
Brendan De Melle, the executive director of De Smog, said Heartland was considered so extreme in Washington that “they can’t even get support any more from Exxon”.
Sheldon Whitehouse, a Democratic senator from Rhode Island who has called for action on the climate crisis, said in a statement to the Guardian: “Even among … climate denial groups, Heartland’s … behaviour and brazen attacks on science stand out.”
Kert Davies, the founder of the Climate Investigations Center, which investigates climate denying groups, said Heartland was promoting a counter-narrative to the environmentalists but would ultimately fail.
“They are trying to ride Greta’s wave, but there is no way this person is going to win hearts and minds the way Greta has,” Davies said. “They are trying to blunt the impact of Greta.”
Not a knock meant on you, but while that's a pretty good article on her, it kind of buries the lead.
Not only does it take several paragraphs to get to Seibt's insane comment about Jews and Muslims as compared to "Ordinary Germans", but IMO that quote seems like an equal or greater reason why no one should be promoting her than her saying good things about Stefan Molyneux.
Basically, it's framed as an article about her having questionable ties to alt-right figures, in a way that a right-wing reader could feel comfortable arguing (in bad faith) that she's a victim of guilt-by-association, but her actual views seem to be as bad or worse than those of Molyneux.
Edited by Hodor2 on Mar 1st 2020 at 12:17:59 PM
Oh, no doubt about that. I probably simply didn't interpret the article as such because I was already aware of her just being another fascist mouthpiece.
Welcome to Estalia, gentlemen.I wasn't familiar with her beforehand but yeah, it makes me really uncomfortable that she's being presented as "The Conservative Greta" in a way that depending on one's politics, you'd either see her as The Moral Substitute or an Evil Counterpart, whereas I think you could actually fairly call her "The Nazi Greta".
I haven't even heard about her until fairly recently and I'm from Germany.
Welcome to Estalia, gentlemen.Yeah same.
Then again, I've stopped trying to keep count on all these right-wing shitlord (or in this case, shitlady) internet personas.
Certified: 48.0% West Asian, 6.5% South Asian, 15.8% North/West European, 15.7% English, 7.4% Balkan, 6.6% Scandinavian
Note that the lawyer who took his case is Larry Klayman, someone who is also a total shitbag.
Shit sticks together.
Disgusted, but not surprised