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hcobb from http://www.hcobb.com/ Since: Jan, 2001
#51: Jun 30th 2012 at 11:34:19 AM

What's the trope for slipping in an animated TV series into the middle of a series of live action movies, to expand on a Sci-Fi franchise? You know, like Star Wars, Star Trek, etc. I'm sure people could name a few more examples.

"Show us the Galaxy Warp."
illegalcheese X-14: Killer Cheese Since: Apr, 2010
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#52: Jul 1st 2012 at 6:21:14 PM

Animated Adaptation, though that a lot of the time refers to doing over the same work again, rather than continuing it. The trope's not that strict, though, since it's kind of in a flux, or evolving, or what have you.

Ether101Prime Since: Jan, 2001
#53: Jul 2nd 2012 at 3:40:49 PM

I liked Identity quite a bit and am surprised that nobody's talking about it or who will being showing up in the next episode.

hcobb from http://www.hcobb.com/ Since: Jan, 2001
#54: Jul 2nd 2012 at 3:53:06 PM

Why not just check everybody's disk when they show up for work?

Also how about a revolution where the memories of being a revolutionary is stored off-line so you can't remember anything when the authorities come to question you?

"Show us the Galaxy Warp."
hcobb from http://www.hcobb.com/ Since: Jan, 2001
#55: Jul 5th 2012 at 8:24:41 AM

So far this prequel is really outshining Tron Legacy in everything but CGI glitter.

I think the leads are a major cause of this. Sam was an Action Boy years before he was digitally deconstructed who jumped at the call. While Beck was a rather ordinary program who got a tap on the shoulder from the call.

The movie could have tied the computer and real world plots together in some way. Some tiny attempt could be made to show some sort of collusion between human and software badies, if the writers had thought about it for like say two minutes.

wild mass guess For example: TU will end with Beck having everything mostly under control, however the software baddies are influencing the corporate suits in order to take over all the computers on Earth. Fortunately corporate greed is limiting the spread of the software. Suddenly Sam releases OS 12 to the world, the baddies get a surge of new power, take over Tron and wipe out Beck.

edited 5th Jul '12 8:48:53 AM by hcobb

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#56: Jul 5th 2012 at 2:05:58 PM

I suppose checking everyone's disc would require manpower they don't have yet, since Tessler is still on the process of taking over Argon City.

I can definitely see things like that happening when shit gets real, though.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
hcobb from http://www.hcobb.com/ Since: Jan, 2001
#57: Jul 5th 2012 at 2:34:42 PM

wild mass guess I noticed I wasn't being evil enough so add the following: Beck survives TU, but is reprogrammed as one of Tron's elite goons. Sam then (retroactively) kills Beck in TL. cool

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Ether101Prime Since: Jan, 2001
#58: Jul 6th 2012 at 12:53:13 AM

[quoteblock]So far this prequel is really outshining Tron Legacy in everything but CGI glitter.

I think the leads are a major cause of this. Sam was an Action Boy years before he was digitally deconstructed who jumped at the call. While Beck was a rather ordinary program who got a tap on the shoulder from the call.

The movie could have tied the computer and real world plots together in some way. Some tiny attempt could be made to show some sort of collusion between human and software badies, if the writers had thought about it for like say two minutes.

wild mass guess For example: TU will end with Beck having everything mostly under control, however the software baddies are influencing the corporate suits in order to take over all the computers on Earth. Fortunately corporate greed is limiting the spread of the software. Suddenly Sam releases OS 12 to the world, the baddies get a surge of new power, take over Tron and wipe out Beck.[/quoteblock]

That wouldn't have worked as it would have made CLU's actions completely pointless and it would make no sense for him to do it.

hcobb from http://www.hcobb.com/ Since: Jan, 2001
#59: Jul 6th 2012 at 2:12:19 AM

CLU aspired to impose his perfect system on the world. It's just that in TU/TL, he hasn't shown any evidence of using human pawns.

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Ether101Prime Since: Jan, 2001
#60: Jul 7th 2012 at 3:49:01 AM

No, if CLU wanted to get out of his closed system. If he could already do that then he wouldn't have any need to lure Users to open up the gate.

hcobb from http://www.hcobb.com/ Since: Jan, 2001
#61: Jul 7th 2012 at 5:48:51 AM

What exactly did Sam's OS 12 release do to the Grid?

Yesterday I saw a very low budget fan parody movie of the series titled just "Tron" (The actors wore body suits with reflective tape patterns. That's how low budget it was.), and it had a better plot to tie together the Earth and Grid plots than TU/TL have. [lol]

"Show us the Galaxy Warp."
blueflame724 Since: May, 2010
#62: Jul 7th 2012 at 5:59:25 AM

You know, it is a bit interesting how much acclaim this series is getting compared to its counterparts. TRON is a cult classic, but mainly for its effects, while Legacy was somewhat similar, if not as well received. Looks like it's finally paying off.

edited 7th Jul '12 6:44:03 AM by blueflame724

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Ether101Prime Since: Jan, 2001
#63: Jul 8th 2012 at 3:50:24 AM

What exactly did Sam's OS 12 release do to the Grid?

Sam put the master files of Flynn OS 12 on to the net which didn't do anything to CLU's Grid as it wasn't connected to it.

FigmentJedi Since: Jan, 2001
#64: Jul 8th 2012 at 11:57:13 AM

[up] And we won't see the internet crop up too much because they want to keep the Grids as their own special places as opposed to doing the same "Oh no! Pop-Up ads!" stuff that Futurama was doing ten years ago.

hcobb from http://www.hcobb.com/ Since: Jan, 2001
#65: Jul 8th 2012 at 2:48:35 PM

Hey, they could take on the Thunder LO Lkats.

[down]wild mass guess Heel–Face Turn in the works. Or in this case a Healer Face Turn...

edited 8th Jul '12 5:06:33 PM by hcobb

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Ether101Prime Since: Jan, 2001
#66: Jul 8th 2012 at 3:47:00 PM

So, what did everybody think of Isolated? Paige being another program that's gone beyond her programing is a nice twist but it was kind of silly that Beck didn't call out to tell her what he was doing. I also smirked at how the narrator blatantly tells us what's only been vaguely hinted at in the show regarding Paige's internal feelings.

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#67: Jul 9th 2012 at 9:54:22 AM

I have to disagree with hcobb on one major part.

Involving an Earth plot wouldn't be very Tron-like. Tron as a story works because it completely forgets that there is another world. Both Kevin and Sam try to get home. That's their only goal. The rest was just extra.

That, and The Grid doesn't run on real-time.

Signatures are for lamers.
StarOutlaw Since: Nov, 2010
#68: Jul 9th 2012 at 10:08:34 AM

[up]Probably the biggest reason for the real world not being more involved is the time difference. Still I think it's possible that the real world could be a lot more involved in the sequel, though not with much switching between the two worlds.

hcobb from http://www.hcobb.com/ Since: Jan, 2001
#69: Jul 9th 2012 at 10:37:57 AM

Here's a missing trope.

http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/prelimnotes.php Most people instinctively know Burnside's Zeroth Law of space combat: Science fiction fans relate more to human beings than to silicon chips. That is, while it might make more logical sense to have an interplanetary battle waged between groups of computer controlled spacecraft, it would be infinitely more boring than a battle between groups of human crewed spacecraft.

"Show us the Galaxy Warp."
Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#70: Jul 13th 2012 at 3:33:01 PM

Character Page! HO-ah!

Also, it's interesting how this show seems to be avoiding Villain Decay, they rarely use Tessler, and when they do, he usually is a force to be reckoned with. Case in point, Tessler VS The superpowered Beck, by all logic of the show, it should have been a Curb-Stomp Battle for Beck, but surprisingly, Tessler actually holds his own pretty well, even when he's not using machine guns and bombs. In fact, by the end of the fight, it even looks like Beck was losing [when he got caught up on Tessler's "arm jungle"].

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
FigmentJedi Since: Jan, 2001
#72: Jul 14th 2012 at 9:08:10 AM

Also, according to the Comic-Con Tron Uprising panel, Tron 3 is going to tie Uprising and Legacy together among it's jobs.

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Ether101Prime Since: Jan, 2001
#74: Jul 14th 2012 at 2:09:38 PM

If this wasn't a must buy for me already, the Scars preview would have done it all on its own.

GaryCXJk Wants Captain N for SSBU Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#75: Jul 14th 2012 at 3:04:00 PM

[up][up]It was already known the third Tron movie was in the planning, with ideas of bringing back at least one character from the first Tron film.

Signatures are for lamers.

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