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Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#114551: Dec 18th 2018 at 11:55:17 AM

I'd say everyone was surprised. Even those that wanted Joker in knew he was one hell of a long shot character. Yet... here we are.

Still really surprised Joker was part of Nintendo's list given to Sakurai. Threw a wrench at the worries over Nintendo going with overly safe picks.

"Yeah, it's a shame. Here we are in an underground cave with all these lasers, and instead of having a rave we're using it for evil."
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#114552: Dec 18th 2018 at 12:04:49 PM

Ultimate has sold 3 million units in 11 days making it the fastest selling Switch game.

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
powerpuffbats Goddess of Nature Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Goddess of Nature
#114553: Dec 18th 2018 at 12:13:33 PM

In hindsight, it wasn't too surprising that Joker was chosen over Yu because 5 is actually the best selling Persona game.

But, again, I was thinking that 4 had higher significance a la FFVII.

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#114554: Dec 18th 2018 at 12:14:08 PM

I remember when it was revealed that Nintendo themselves picked the DLC line-up, everyone's reaction was basically "okay, so it's just going to be nothing but plain predictable picks, which means that Bandanna Dee, a Gen 8 Pokemon, and a Fire Emblem Three Houses character are practically guaranteed".

Cut to Joker being revealed and Reggie is all "the upcoming DLC is nothing but completely unexpected and random picks, characters no-one would expect to ever get in Smash".

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Dec 18th 2018 at 1:15:39 PM

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#114555: Dec 18th 2018 at 12:16:42 PM

We should have seen it coming with Piranha Plant

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MEKristian Since: Nov, 2009
#114556: Dec 18th 2018 at 12:20:35 PM

I think the weirdest thing I've seen is people saying that Joker's reveal was totally moved around and he wasn't meant to be first.

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#114557: Dec 18th 2018 at 12:22:13 PM

What's the logic behind that? They even recorded dialogue specifically for the reveal at the Game Awards.

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#114558: Dec 18th 2018 at 12:22:41 PM

I mean I'd just wait for the four other characters to get revealed first.

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#114559: Dec 18th 2018 at 12:23:02 PM

I don't know about that but I do think he was revealed too early.

This song needs more love.
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#114560: Dec 18th 2018 at 12:24:06 PM

I totally predicted that the first DLC character would be revealed at the Game Awards, by the way.

MEKristian Since: Nov, 2009
#114561: Dec 18th 2018 at 12:25:46 PM

For the record, these people are saying that somebody else was meant to be the first DLC character (usually somebody from SE) and they moved the order around... presumably because of "leaks" or something.

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#114562: Dec 18th 2018 at 12:27:59 PM

Ah, the people relying on leaks. Clearly, the leaks can't be wrong, so reality itself must be! Even I relented that the Grinch leak was fake once Incineroar was revealed, and I had completely bought into the Grinch leak.

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#114563: Dec 18th 2018 at 12:56:04 PM

Anyone remember the crack theories about Isaac being revealed in the August direct but he was taken out because of the Earthquake that happened a week before?

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Weirdguy149 The King Without a Kingdom from Lumiose City under development Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
The King Without a Kingdom
#114564: Dec 18th 2018 at 12:58:30 PM

Don't forget the Skull Kid chair shit. That I actually supported and regret doing so.

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JRads47 Me Listening to You RN from Emperor Palpatine Surgical Reconstruction Center Since: Dec, 2014
Me Listening to You RN
#114565: Dec 18th 2018 at 1:13:32 PM

I think it was supposed to hit towards Galeem and Darkhon, at least that's what I heard.

Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#114566: Dec 18th 2018 at 1:15:24 PM

or maybe they were just chairs

that people sit in

and the color meant nothing

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#114567: Dec 18th 2018 at 1:18:36 PM

The hints i took for the potential Skull Kid inclusion was the missing AT and the sudden introduction of the moon. Also the fact that Yink's final smash was unknown at the time.

All to be anticlimatically revealed AFTER the november direct. Like, Shadow at least got briefly shown, the skull kid crowd only find out after checking the AT selection.

Uni cat
Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Disasturbator
#114568: Dec 18th 2018 at 1:20:08 PM

I'm forgiving of people believing in the chairs thing because it was semi believable,they did show a skull kid figure which add credence to the idea of a playable Skull Kid

Alas,it was not so

New theme music also a box
LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#114569: Dec 18th 2018 at 1:21:49 PM

I'm just glad they quashed the idea that they will hint at characters prior to their reveal.

This song needs more love.
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#114570: Dec 18th 2018 at 1:28:55 PM

So, about that part where you play as Master Hand. Can you do that anywhere else, can you play as Crazy Hand, can you play as the rest of the bosses, and if not, I really hope they add that in. Playing as Master Hand was one of the most stupid fun things I've ever done in Smash.

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That guy with the face
#114571: Dec 18th 2018 at 1:30:49 PM

YES. Just being able to go ham as the Hand felt like a typical game of Dynasty Warriors/Hyrule Warriors, where you're in charge of an obscenely powerful character and thrashing mooks left and right. It was easily the most awesome part of the campaign.

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fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#114572: Dec 18th 2018 at 1:31:37 PM

Nope. That's a one time thing.

Sakurai really brought back every single playable character if you think about it. Except Final Smashes

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Sterok Since: Apr, 2012 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#114573: Dec 18th 2018 at 1:40:10 PM

I never understood why the Moon meant anything for Skull Kid. The Skull Kid AT never used or referenced the Moon at all. They were always separate.

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DoorCurtain Since: Nov, 2017
#114574: Dec 18th 2018 at 1:47:52 PM

Some of Palutena's custom specials didn't come back, so in a sense a character with those specials didn't come back either. I'm lowkey hoping for another Kid Icarus character or two that has them so I can spam Lightweight and Jump Glide again, despite how unlikely that is.

Also by virtue of some Mii costumes being cut (mostly the third party ones) then characters like Gil or Lloyd Irving didn't "return" as well.

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#114575: Dec 18th 2018 at 4:39:10 PM

Finally got all the Golden Sun Spirits. Man, while I love how many they included (8! Isaac, Isaac from Dark Dawn, Garet, Ivan, Mia, Felix, Jenna, and Matthew), it's painful how little cohesion between them there is. Like, they barely even tried to give them any way to work together.

Isaac, Garet, Mia, Felix, and Matthew are all Primary Spirits, and Jenna and Ivan are Support Spirits. Matthew, Felix, and Jenna are all Advanced Rank, while Garet, Mia, and Ivan are only Novice Rank, and Isaac for some reason is Ace Rank and can be Enhanced into his appearance from Dark Dawn (where he's just a tutorial NPC) which is Legendary Rank.

It also feels like there's no cohesion between the abilities of the characters. Garet's Skill boosts Fire Attacks, Mia boosts Water Attacks, Isaac boosts Energy Shot Attack/Resistance (which does very little for the Isaac Mii Fighter), and Matthew and Felix do nothing. On the Support end, Jenna boosts Shooting Items and Ivan boosts Magic Attacks.

I wouldn't have as much of a problem with this if there wasn't an actual mechanic that gives you a boost when you have Primary and Secondary Spirits from the same series, and it feels like I would have to really stretch to get that boost and it would be hard to justify combining all of these seemingly random and unrelated boosts.

If it were up to me, Garet and Mia would also be Support Spirits, and Isaac would have a Skill that actually worked with the Mii Swordfighter's attack options. Garet would boost attack at the expense of speed, Mia would have some healing ability, and Ivan would boost speed at the expense of defense, so all of them combined would give Isaac a boost to all stats overall and he could actually go around with his full team supporting him. Also, change Jenna to something else so that she could support either Isaac or Felix better.

Also, get Felix and Matthew up to Ace and boost Garet, Mia, and Ivan to Advanced Rank, it's weird for the latter three to only be at Novice.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Dec 18th 2018 at 5:39:53 AM


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