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Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#4326: Jun 29th 2011 at 3:24:38 PM

More like unemployed in Hell, given SA.

Otherarrow Since: Jul, 2010
#4327: Jun 29th 2011 at 3:26:23 PM

How do you confuse Shikieiki and Suika? Shikieiki and Suika are both short? Both absurdly powerful (but for different reasons)? Both are grouped in-universe with taller, more "developed" characters (who are depicted as weaker)?

...Huh. For the record, I like Shikieiki. I mean no offense, so sorry if that sounded rude.

edited 29th Jun '11 3:27:14 PM by Otherarrow

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Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#4328: Jun 29th 2011 at 3:29:00 PM

Suika's not really grouped with anyone. She's more of a free agent. She did that Deva schtick for a while but got bored of it and started hanging out at the shrine. And now she lives in heaven and bums food off of celestials. I could see her moving on from that too.

Otherarrow Since: Jul, 2010
#4329: Jun 29th 2011 at 3:29:45 PM

...but still!

Also, did you mean to make Suika look like a freeloading bum?

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#4330: Jun 29th 2011 at 3:30:29 PM

[up][up][up] Shiki is actually pretty tall.

[up][up][up][up]

The oni lords will take charge as the souls fall down to Hell and will command the lesser oni in their torment of the deceased.

From PMISS. There are other oni working in other hells. The Hell of Blazing Fires was shut down because of the increasing price of gas, possibly.

edited 29th Jun '11 3:30:58 PM by Bocaj

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raigakuren B Villain from SHAFT land Since: Mar, 2011
B Villain
#4331: Jun 29th 2011 at 3:32:24 PM

My bad.

Another interesting aspect is her grudge against Aya and the tengu. You would've thought that she would get over it. But then again, its pretty much the same with Kaguya and Mokou to.

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Horselesshorseman It's time... to STOP! from Everywhere and Nowhere Since: Mar, 2011
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#4332: Jun 29th 2011 at 3:32:35 PM

[up][up][up] Oh, no!

Suika Bum just appeared in my mind.

'BOOZE, YOU GOT BOOZE! COME ON, HELP AN ONI OUT!'

edited 29th Jun '11 3:40:10 PM by Horselesshorseman

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Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#4333: Jun 29th 2011 at 3:32:59 PM

[up][up][up]Should I have added a rimshot?

edited 29th Jun '11 3:33:10 PM by Clarste

Fluid Since: Jan, 2001
#4334: Jun 29th 2011 at 3:35:07 PM

I'd say she's more of a wanderer than some kind of mooching hoboni. She goes wherever she likes, and she's not interested in staying anywhere for long.

Otherarrow Since: Jul, 2010
#4335: Jun 29th 2011 at 3:36:11 PM

[up][up][up][up][up]Shiki's Perfect Memento art has her as kinda short looking to me (though not midget sized or anything), and the Grimoire of Marisa art of her as just tiny! Consistency!

On Topic: Suika is a pretty cool guy, eh, size changes and doesn't afraid of anything.

edited 29th Jun '11 3:38:00 PM by Otherarrow

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#4336: Jun 29th 2011 at 3:41:22 PM

[up][up][up] Probably.

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asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#4337: Jun 29th 2011 at 4:40:41 PM

If Suika can change how big she is, then surely she will appear to be different sizes at different times, yes?

Suika apparently hasn't been sober in centuries. I blame the sake worms. They're facilitators.

edited 29th Jun '11 4:40:59 PM by asterism

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Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#4338: Jun 29th 2011 at 4:45:58 PM

Depends on if she has a reason to change sizes. Just because Kaguya can resurrect herself doesn't mean we'd expect to see her in various states of dying and regeneration at various times. People tend to have this thing called a "default" appearance.

raigakuren B Villain from SHAFT land Since: Mar, 2011
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#4339: Jun 29th 2011 at 4:50:03 PM

[up][up]Well there are several doujins where Suika runs out of sake/loses her sake gourd and then goes crazy trying to get sake. Perhaps Oni's have developed a need for booze...and wait why am I using scientific fact to discuss Touhou?

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Zudak Since: Dec, 1969
#4340: Jun 29th 2011 at 8:05:44 PM

I consider it a physiological thing. Not like, an oni will go berserk if they get sober or anything... more like they die of thirst, since they need it the way other folks need water. So, like they literally need it.

At least, that's how I interpret it.

raigakuren B Villain from SHAFT land Since: Mar, 2011
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#4341: Jun 29th 2011 at 8:07:53 PM

In other words oni are addicted to sake.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#4342: Jun 29th 2011 at 8:10:02 PM

Or another physiological thing. Heavy drinkers and alcoholics get sort of used to being drunk, chemically. The absence of it causes some bad stuff to happen. Really vivid nightmares for example.

Considering how heavily oni drink, being sober is going to be a terrible terrible time.*

For one thing, because of the constant hair of the dogging, I don't think onis have to typically deal with hangovers.

[up] Ninja'd with brevity.

edited 29th Jun '11 8:10:16 PM by Bocaj

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raigakuren B Villain from SHAFT land Since: Mar, 2011
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#4343: Jun 29th 2011 at 8:12:30 PM

[up] Nah you said it more science-ishy.

Anyway, Tsurupettan was one of the things that got me into Touhou. My friends showed me the video at an anime convention and I instantly got hooked...and then listened to it for like a week straight.

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Zudak Since: Dec, 1969
#4344: Jun 29th 2011 at 8:36:54 PM

Who can say? Hangovers and withdrawal might work differently for them if their body chemistry is different from humans.

Metaflare MERMAID from Yes Since: Apr, 2011
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#4345: Jun 29th 2011 at 8:47:17 PM

As Drunk as I Like

"Hey, Suika?"

"Zzzzzzzz..."

"...Wake up!"

"Guh! Bwebleb what d'you want Reimuh?"

"You know, I was wondering someth-"

"Sake."

"...Right. Here."

"Thanks." -glug glug glug- "Pahhh! Ssssssso much better! Now, wha'd ya want to know?"

"How did you get to know Yukari?"

"Hah! Straight to th'point, tha's what I like 'bout you!"

"You're getting off topic."

"Says who?"

"Me."

"Party pooper."

"Suika."

"A'right a'right. Not much to tell though. Ya live long enough and you're bound to meed the gap hag. I know her, that ghost princess knows her, that stuck-up judge knows her, Yukka knows her-"

"Yuuka."

"Her too. The only reason why a lot of people this century know about her is 'cause she's been unusually active recently. Hell, I remember one time where she was gone for like sixty years. Turns out she was jus' touring some alternate reality where all animal life on this planet was gone. She brought souveniers!"

"I...see. So, you met...just because? No big battle or anything?"

"...Oh wait! Now I remember! She tried stealin' my sake so we fought for like three days straight. Hah! That was a fun time, if I say so myself!"

"...Maybe I should've just gone to Yukari herself for this."

"Aww, don'cha like your oni roommate, Reimu?"

"You live in Heaven now, Suika."

"But I always got a place here, right?"

"Actually I cleared out your room so I could have more storage space."

"Whaaa!?"

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raigakuren B Villain from SHAFT land Since: Mar, 2011
B Villain
#4346: Jun 29th 2011 at 8:50:38 PM

[up] Nice writeup. And I'm not saying that just because I might be your clone.

Oh Suika, you drunken little loli. Was that thing about Yuuka a PC 98 joke?

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Metaflare MERMAID from Yes Since: Apr, 2011
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#4347: Jun 29th 2011 at 8:53:04 PM

No, it's a little joke that inspiried the whole thing. It's supposed to be like a drunk mispronouncing someone's name, someone correcting them, and then the drunk saying that it wasn't a mispronounciation because they know someone with that name.

edited 29th Jun '11 8:53:13 PM by Metaflare

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Otherarrow Since: Jul, 2010
#4348: Jun 29th 2011 at 9:02:47 PM

[up][up]...That was great. I know I admitted to not being that big of a Suika fan, but that entertained me. The ending was gold.

Partially related: Wonder how does pesky Celestials treat/deal with her?

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raigakuren B Villain from SHAFT land Since: Mar, 2011
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#4349: Jun 29th 2011 at 9:03:47 PM

Wait...SHE BOUGHT SOUVENIERS!? grin

[up]Drinks with them obviously, Peach flavored sake from heaven sounds heavenly.

edited 29th Jun '11 9:04:50 PM by raigakuren

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Otherarrow Since: Jul, 2010
#4350: Jun 29th 2011 at 9:16:30 PM

Maybe this is just my pesky fanon stupidity talking, but I assume that the Celestials would be either too high and mighty or too busy to stand a oni doing oni things all over the place. Then again, Akyuu does say that Celestials basically do nothing but goof off and come down to Earth to mess with people. Maybe Suika would fit in (although she might be too rowdy for them anyway)

Did I just answer my own question? I'm sorry.

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