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Shichibukai Permanently Banned from Banland
Permanently Banned
Dec 8th 2010 at 1:34:22 PM

I would hate to be pitted against a draka AI, that's for sure.

So, it's that time again. Not sure which faction to play as in Victoria II.

Requiem ~ September 2010 - October 2011 [Banned 4 Life]
Thnikkafan ? from Faroe Islands (not really) Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
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Dec 8th 2010 at 1:37:35 PM

Does Victoria 2 come with an Old Save Bonus option for EU 3?

Anyone who assigns themselves loads of character tropes is someone to be worried about.
TheBigSock what is this i dont even from Israel
what is this i dont even
Dec 8th 2010 at 1:51:53 PM

What is the best way to improve my EU 3 skills? I've been watching a bit of L Ps and reading in the wiki, but I can't seem to grasp some aspects as well as I should :S

Shichibukai Permanently Banned from Banland
Permanently Banned
Dec 8th 2010 at 2:09:57 PM

[up][up] I don't know, haven't tried it myself yet...

[up] It's hard to tell, what is your strategy usually?

Requiem ~ September 2010 - October 2011 [Banned 4 Life]
Medicus Sierra 117 from Australia
Sierra 117
Dec 8th 2010 at 2:14:07 PM

Does Victoria 2 come with an Old Save Bonus option for EU 3?
I'm fairly sure it has one for HOI 3. If there's an old save bonus for EU 3 it'd be in one of the expansions, but there are some pretty decent ones online. Or there would be, it takes a while for them to come out.

It's not over. Not yet.
TheBigSock what is this i dont even from Israel
what is this i dont even
Dec 8th 2010 at 2:17:22 PM

[up][up] Don't really HAVE a strategy, it just feels like I'm missing something all the time.

Like, one time I played Castille and managed to get two provinces out of Granada (for the Reconquest mission) and then took a tiny bite out of Morocco so I can sue for peace. Then I had no more manpower left and no idea what to do next. Feels like I did something wrong.

Shichibukai Permanently Banned from Banland
Permanently Banned
Dec 8th 2010 at 2:24:14 PM

[up]

You could change one of your advisors if there is a sergeant-major general (I think that's the name) available. That will give you a boost in manpower.

Do you use mercenaries?

There is no "wrong" way to play the game, history will right itself eventually. tongue

edited 8th Dec '10 2:26:00 PM by Shichibukai

Requiem ~ September 2010 - October 2011 [Banned 4 Life]
TheBigSock what is this i dont even from Israel
what is this i dont even
Dec 8th 2010 at 2:55:45 PM

I figure, but I always feel like it's a race against the clock, and spending ten years doing nothing because I don't have Casus Belli against anyone doesn't seem like a good way to get an edge :P

Also, never used mercenaries. I don't really know the difference between them and regular soldiers. Do they have lower morale? More maintenance?

I honestly tried to read the manual but 1. I can't read long PD Fs without getting all watery-eyed and 2. I'm playing HTTT, so I kinda need to read four manuals and I have better ways of spending my Saturdays.

Medicus Sierra 117 from Australia
Sierra 117
Dec 8th 2010 at 3:12:29 PM

It's not a race against the clock. If you think like that you'll just end up in an endless series of badboy wars.

Those ten years? Build up your industry. I guarantee you, a strong industrial base is a lot better in the long run than a large military.

It's not over. Not yet.
Kinkajou One Man Army from you're not your
One Man Army
Dec 8th 2010 at 3:17:56 PM

The Big Sock: The trick to managing your manpower reserves is this:

  1. Build up your army in peacetime. Keep maintenance costs low unless you're preparing for war or expecting one. That should let your manpower recover faster.
  2. Try not to assault forts a lot. And try not to let attrition whittle down your armies.
  3. If your maintenance is still quite high, keep in mind that you can afford to lose money monthly in most cases. Failing that, mint, but minting will cause problems for you in the long run until you take preventive measures like tax assessors and hiring Masters of Mint.

"Wait, it's IV. Of course they are. They'd make IV for Dreamcast." - Enlong, on yet another FFIV remake
Shichibukai Permanently Banned from Banland
Permanently Banned
Dec 8th 2010 at 7:22:43 PM

I was just playing as Argentina and took southern Chile. Managed to gain reactionaries and outlawed democracy and legalised slavery again. I like the one-party state thing too. Now, that's playing like an evil dictator. Forgot about certain requirements though. Some resources aren't usable until you unlock certain technologies - hence my economy was complete rubbish.

After that I decided to give Prussia a go. Everything was going well, and I took some territory from Denmark. Then I did something stupid and ignored the infamy penalty. World War I, 70 years too early.

Requiem ~ September 2010 - October 2011 [Banned 4 Life]
TheBigSock what is this i dont even from Israel
what is this i dont even
Dec 9th 2010 at 12:54:38 AM

Huh, well, thanks for the tips I guess, though I don't really know how to build an industry :P

I mean, there's the investments (land/government/kittens) thingy, and I guess I can build stuff in provinces, but there isn't a lot to do when you start the game on the earliest date possible. Or maybe it's just my noobinesh speaking. I should probably choose some random nation and practice a bit :S

Medicus Sierra 117 from Australia
Sierra 117
Dec 9th 2010 at 1:29:58 AM

In Europa Universalis you can afford to play the waiting game, you've got hundreds of years.

It's not over. Not yet.
Arilou Taller than Zim from Quasispace
Taller than Zim
Dec 9th 2010 at 7:00:33 AM

Vicky 2 bug of the day:

Apparently it's possible for Israel to form Germany.

"No, the Singularity will not happen. Computation is hard." -Happy Ent
Arilou Taller than Zim from Quasispace
Taller than Zim
Dec 11th 2010 at 2:30:58 AM

3 days until Divine Wind!

"No, the Singularity will not happen. Computation is hard." -Happy Ent
Shichibukai Permanently Banned from Banland
Permanently Banned
Dec 11th 2010 at 4:33:41 PM

[up] XD

Well, I was playing Vicky II as Prussia. I managed to get the North German Confederation, but the German Empire states were a bit of hard work - I had to go to war with Austria, and in the end they had better mobilisation than I.

Instead, I went for the "gutter" option, claiming Germany (minus Bavaria and Wuttemburg) whilst gaining 15 infamy. Ouch. Not a good option since I annexed Luxembourg without reason a few months before.

So, the whole world declared war to contain me in 1900.

First, Austria-Hungary. Despite brave rebellions across Germany, and an expedition to capture Vienna, Germany's mainland provinces fell - as did Iceland and Greenland.

However, German Africa is a massive territory dominating Botswana, Angola, and Pretoria. It turned into a game of survivalism. Through nomadic armies, I can hold onto just enough territory to survive. They have to keep fighting my resistance. As of now, I have Malanje province with soldiers dug in, and an adequate garrison on Faroe Island.

Is it possible to outlast them in attrition? Bearing in mind, that back in Germany there are constant rebellions by Fascists, Reactionaries, Anarcho-Liberals, putting pressure on the occupying powers. Germany has been relegated to Secondary power status because its industry has been crippled, but it still ranks 4 in prestige and military (presumably due to manpower and tech)

Amusing how it can still function at all.

Update: It was a thorough success. I managed to get White Peace out of everyone, and Germany is rebuilding its industry and army very quickly. cool

Had to reopen all the shut factories, then Sweden declared war on me again.

edited 11th Dec '10 5:45:08 PM by Shichibukai

Requiem ~ September 2010 - October 2011 [Banned 4 Life]
Shichibukai Permanently Banned from Banland
Permanently Banned
Dec 11th 2010 at 6:51:06 PM

Bump

Requiem ~ September 2010 - October 2011 [Banned 4 Life]
Kinkajou One Man Army from you're not your
One Man Army
Dec 13th 2010 at 3:20:42 AM

The Sultanate of Rüm, 1458. After my only war of aggression against the Mamluks, I went to war with them again, using the Obscure Documents CB to drag them into a PU. Since MEIOU makes provinces defect much faster than vanilla, I tend to overextend more. I decided to released Egypt (different from the Mamluks, mind you) as a vassal to alleviate this.

[Mappo

"Wait, it's IV. Of course they are. They'd make IV for Dreamcast." - Enlong, on yet another FFIV remake
Shichibukai Permanently Banned from Banland
Permanently Banned
Dec 13th 2010 at 3:28:31 AM

I like the way you've approached that. Vassalise rather than deal with rebels. How many vassals do you have now?

Requiem ~ September 2010 - October 2011 [Banned 4 Life]
Kinkajou One Man Army from you're not your
One Man Army
Dec 13th 2010 at 3:31:10 AM

Two Three Four vassals, and three PUs. Keeping your vassals/junior PU members weaker than you is the key.

Plus, they provide good satellite troops.

edited 13th Dec '10 3:32:16 AM by Kinkajou

"Wait, it's IV. Of course they are. They'd make IV for Dreamcast." - Enlong, on yet another FFIV remake
Shichibukai Permanently Banned from Banland
Permanently Banned
Dec 13th 2010 at 3:37:19 AM

Quite impressive.

When I do vassalise, it's as an alternative to having to conquer them. plus they provide a bit of backup. I rarely use vassals inside my borders. They're more like buffer states, used to guard the outer edges of an empire. Islands are good for vassalisation too, since they can be awkward to keep track of.

Requiem ~ September 2010 - October 2011 [Banned 4 Life]
Kinkajou One Man Army from you're not your
One Man Army
Dec 13th 2010 at 3:41:47 AM

Vassals are the most reliable allies, ever.

"Wait, it's IV. Of course they are. They'd make IV for Dreamcast." - Enlong, on yet another FFIV remake
Shichibukai Permanently Banned from Banland
Permanently Banned
Dec 13th 2010 at 4:58:30 PM

True.

Looks like Divine Wind is going to have 4 advisor slots instead of 3. A much welcomed change, but I suppose several mods addressed that anyway. cool

I'm so psyched for this.

edited 13th Dec '10 4:58:54 PM by Shichibukai

Requiem ~ September 2010 - October 2011 [Banned 4 Life]
Kinkajou One Man Army from you're not your
One Man Army
Dec 13th 2010 at 5:05:34 PM

You can't have more than one of each type, though.

"Wait, it's IV. Of course they are. They'd make IV for Dreamcast." - Enlong, on yet another FFIV remake

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