Game of Thrones [Potential Book Spoilers]

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone

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#19376: Nov 21st 2017 at 1:57:17 PM

Well this was interesting. It's the season 7 prelimary outline date for April 2016.

There were some major changes.

In the preliminary outline:

Tyrion was in love with Daenerys.

Jon wasn't going to be on the wight hunt. It was going to Brienne and Pod joining along instead.

There were going to be other handsome Tyrell men that Olenna was going to try to marry to Daenerys.

There was going to be a few lines about Dorne being in a civil war between 5 major families with claims on Dorne after Ellaria and Sand Snakes were killed.

Jon was going to briefly ride Viserion before the NK crashed it down and killed it.

San would've found out about his dad's burning from the maester.

Rhaegal and Viserion almost eat Jon before Drogon gets them to back off.

The Northern lords compare Sansa favorably to Ned Stark and compare Jon to Robb as "another king that ran away from the North for a foreign whore".

Calling Gendry the future of House Baratheon.

Daenerys mistaking Davos for King in the North and when it's pointed out that Jon is the King she responds with "But...he's a midget."

etc.

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#19377: Nov 21st 2017 at 2:19:32 PM

I prefer parts of that to what we ended up getting though I still stand by my assessment that Tyrell's army was greatly undervalued by the writers for the sake of a plot twist. Not to mention a retcon.

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#19378: Nov 21st 2017 at 5:08:16 PM

How can Daenerys call Jon a midget when Tyrion is her hand?

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#19379: Nov 21st 2017 at 7:32:32 PM

well you are a dwarf, Jon is just...a midget

No wonder you two get along so well!

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#19380: Nov 21st 2017 at 8:41:21 PM

That's addressed, Son:

Jon and Davos met Dany and Tyrion at the Dragonstone gate. Dany mistook Davos for the King in the North, and when Davos corrected her (after kissing the hand she offered) she turned to Jon and said "Oh. But he's a midget." Then she looked at Tyrion and said "No offense." (It seems this became the "He's too little for me" "I didn't mean-" dialogue in S 7 E 6.)

I wish this had made it in:

Glover and Royce talking to Sansa: "She has done a fine job, as would be expected of Ned Stark’s trueborn daughter, while Jon Snow followed his brother’s course and took off with a foreign woman."

Also apparently Brienne was possibly going to die:

Originally, Jon wasn't part of the wight hunt, and Brienne was wounded by the bear instead of Thoros. The note beneath the second scene heading reads: "[FORTHCOMING REVISIONS WILL SEE JON ADDED TO THIS SCENE AND BRIENNE AND POD CUT. THOROS WILL BE WOUNDED BY THE BEAR RATHER THAN BRIENNE, THOUGH HIS INJURIES WILL NOT BE AS SEVERE.]"

And Daenerys was going to regret going north to save Jon at the cost of Viserion's life:

Dany severely regretted rescuing them, and wished she could take it all back to save her dragon, a complete contrast to the aired episode.

edited 21st Nov '17 8:50:03 PM by MadSkillz

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#19381: Nov 22nd 2017 at 2:06:32 AM

x5 That looks suspiciously like the result of a brainstorming session where you just write down everyone's ideas before scratching down what doesn't work.

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#19382: Nov 22nd 2017 at 3:20:21 AM

I think it was a first draft or at least early drafts of what they wanted

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#19383: Dec 2nd 2017 at 1:01:36 AM

Watchers on the Wall just spoiled something major for next season.

I already predicted it would happen though.

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#19384: Dec 2nd 2017 at 7:39:14 PM

Bloody hell, again with the leaks. -_-

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#19385: Dec 5th 2017 at 9:20:59 PM

Stannis' actor reflects disheartening experience with GOT.

In an interview to promote a new project, Dillane mulled over his tenure on Game of Thrones and didn’t pull any punches when offering his opinion.

On his GOT experience:

“I was entirely dependent on Liam to tell me what the scenes were about — I didn’t know what I was doing until we’d finished filming and it was too late,” he said. “The damage had been done. I thought no one would believe in me and I was rather disheartened by the end. I felt I’d built the castle on non-existent foundations.”

“I’ve flicked it on [since leaving] to see if I could figure out what was going on, but I couldn’t. Liam Cunningham is so passionate about the show. He invests in it in a way I think is quite moving, but it wasn’t my experience.”

Fortunately, Dillane remains passionate about his career in general and has found at least one major benefit from his time on Game of Thrones

“I can only work with what attracts me, and unfortunately that’s often not what attracts anybody else,” he said. “Game of Thrones pays for all this looking around and waiting.”

To be fair, Dillane said (in reference to The Tunnel) that for all the attention that actors tend to receive from the press and fans, they tend to be the people who are most out of the loop on any given project.

“We can only say how we’re coming at it, but the end result will hardly ever be anything to do with what we think,” he said. “It goes through so many transformations before it reaches the viewer that whatever we think we’re doing is almost irrelevant.”

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#19386: Dec 5th 2017 at 9:48:08 PM

The comment thread to that interview is filled with mouthbreathers who hate that he wasn't complimentary.

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#19387: Jan 13th 2018 at 4:07:00 AM

Before she read the Thrones scripts, she and her mother “cracked open a bottle of wine and made predictions about how it was going to end. And neither of us was right.”

Was either of them close? “No. I don’t know if it’s gonna surprise people, but it’s just different to what you think it’s gonna be.” Word is that HBO is thinking of making each episode in the last season feature-length. That would be “amazing”, Williams says. “Milk it for all it’s worth, why don’t you!”

She can’t say much more. If she did she’d suffer a fate worse than Arya’s victims, who have, variously, been stabbed in their eyes, had their throats cut and been fed to their father in a pie. Can she answer one thing: does Arya have any hope of a normal life, after her father, mother and two of her brothers were slain horribly at the hands of Westeros’s villains? “For a lot of the previous season (7) her emotions were very cut off, she just didn’t want to hear what her family had been through,” Williams says. “I hope in the new season I get a chance to bring back a bit more of that fun child that we all fell in love with.”

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/times2/maisie-williams-there-were-things-i-learnt-on-game-of-thrones-that-you-could-never-learn-in-a-classroom-pz7p039g7

edited 14th Jan '18 2:56:31 AM by MadSkillz

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#19388: Feb 3rd 2018 at 5:49:39 PM

Big spoiler just dropped this week with video to prove it. Endgame material.

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#19389: Feb 3rd 2018 at 9:15:31 PM

where at

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#19390: Feb 3rd 2018 at 9:39:51 PM

Here.

Big Spoiler:

Winterfell burns. And it's being reported that the GC/Lannister soldiers are there so they could be the ones doing the burning. Scouring of the Shire indeed, George.

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#19391: Feb 3rd 2018 at 11:29:50 PM

Maybe it's a trap. Lure the Night King's forces into an enclosed space, set the whole thing on fire

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#19392: Feb 4th 2018 at 12:00:26 AM

No wights reported as of yet. Also this is supposed to be a big battle and Jon and Daenerys haven't been reported there. Could mean they're incapacitated or even dead.

Also another spoiler dropped saying that dragonfire goes off in King's Landing and potentially razes the place.

So the two big battles of the season are at Winterfell and King's Landing.

And looking at the director's list, Miguel is going to direct them. He's the one who directed Battle of the Bastards after all.

So this'll happen in episode 3 and 5. We don't know what order they take place in so it could be the living versus the dead at KL in episode 3 and then the Lannisters/ GC versus the Starks at Winterfell in episode 5 or the reverse.

edited 4th Feb '18 12:10:50 AM by MadSkillz

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#19393: Feb 4th 2018 at 3:34:38 AM

Do remember that that they have explicitly pointed out they will film fake scenes to throw off leaks.

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#19394: Feb 4th 2018 at 3:41:14 PM

Too expensive. There's a reported 300-500 extras there.

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#19395: Feb 4th 2018 at 4:56:42 PM

Also, we're told that that castle is "Winterfell", but it has square battlements. Winterfell's towers are all round. That didn't look like Winterfell to me. It looked more like King's Landing, actually.

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#19396: Feb 4th 2018 at 5:43:31 PM

But it was filmed in Belfast, Northern Ireland. Dubrovnik, Croatia is King's Landing.

That's not to say thought that it can't be used for KL now that winter is here though just more likely to be Winterfell than KL.

edited 4th Feb '18 5:44:33 PM by MadSkillz

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#19397: Feb 5th 2018 at 2:58:46 AM

It looked like Winterfel to me. Especially the Winterfel we see from the long distance shots in the show. Winderfel has a circular architecture, but its the same location they use for the North and not all of Winterfel is circular. And there's not other castles to burn that the audience would care about there. What else would burn? The Dreadfort?

I doubt they'd change locations of King's Landing like that. The architecture would be far too different.

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