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*** And the hilarity goes even further when [[spoiler:ponies were willing to forgive a pony who did something ''[[SetWrongWhatOnceWentRight worse]]'' than what Sonata [[AccidentalMurder did]]]].
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Some felt this way about Trixie. She acts incredibly smug, arrogant, and condescending throughout the entire series, and has no qualms about trying to get Rainbow Dash wrongly prosecuted simply for revenge on Twilight, and she repeatedly prioritizes revenge over the truth. She gets a CryForTheDevil in the form of [[spoiler:black Psyche-locks]], but these are never significantly explained or elaborated on. Phoenix at times says that she's doing certain things for noble purposes, but virtually every one of these instances is actually explainable by Trixie just serving her own selfish ends. She never even apologizes or shows remorse for what she did afterwards, not even when Phoenix [[spoiler:generously helps her out and saves her career]]. The only really noble thing she ever does, [[spoiler:write a secret, reluctant thank-you note to Phoenix]], came at no cost to herself whatsoever, and as far as she knew, would not be discovered by anypony.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Some felt this way about Trixie. She acts incredibly smug, arrogant, and condescending throughout the entire series, and has no qualms about trying to get Rainbow Dash wrongly prosecuted simply for revenge on Twilight, and she repeatedly prioritizes revenge over the truth. She gets a CryForTheDevil in the form of [[spoiler:black Psyche-locks]], but these are [[InformedAttribute never significantly explained or elaborated on. on]]. Phoenix at times says that she's doing certain things for noble purposes, but virtually every one of these instances is actually explainable by Trixie just serving her own selfish ends. She even savors [[spoiler:Rainbow Dash's guilty verdict]], rubbing it in Twilight's face and declaring that she felt on top of the world afterwards. She never even apologizes or shows remorse for what she did afterwards, did, not even when Phoenix [[spoiler:generously helps her out and saves her career]]. The only really noble thing she ever does, [[spoiler:write a secret, reluctant thank-you note to Phoenix]], came at no cost to herself whatsoever, and as far as she knew, would not be discovered by anypony.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Some felt this way about Trixie. She acts incredibly smug, arrogant, and condescending throughout the entire series, and has no qualms about trying to get Rainbow Dash wrongly prosecuted simply for revenge on Twilight, and she repeatedly prioritizes revenge over the truth. She gets a CryForTheDevil in the form of [[spoiler:black Psyche-locks]], but these are never significantly explained or elaborated on. Phoenix at times says that she's doing certain things for noble purposes, but virtually every one of these instances is actually explainable by Trixie just serving her own selfish ends. She never even apologizes or shows remorse for what she did afterwards, not even when Phoenix [[spoiler:generously helps her out and saves her career]]. The only really noble thing she ever does, [[spoiler:write a secret, reluctant thank-you note to Phoenix]], came at no cost to herself whatsoever, and as far as she knew, would not be discovered by anypony.

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** In ''Part 3 - Phoenix'', Rainbow temporarily adopts Fluttershy's manestyle while mocking her. [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS5E8TheLostTreasureOfGriffonstone Come Season 5, and we get another instance where Rainbow Dash uses another character's manestyle while mocking them.]] Then Season 6 came and [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS6E7NewbieDash had her copy all five - yes, including Fluttershy.]]

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** In ''Part 3 - Phoenix'', Rainbow temporarily adopts Fluttershy's manestyle while mocking her. [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS5E8TheLostTreasureOfGriffonstone Come Season 5, and we get another instance where Rainbow Dash uses another character's manestyle while mocking them.]] Then Season 6 came and [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS6E7NewbieDash had her copy all of the other five - yes, including Fluttershy.]]


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** Rainbow Dash. Yeah, [[spoiler:taking her anger out on Fluttershy to the point of saying she hated her]] wasn't nice at all, but being set up for murder with the evidence piling against her and facing permanent exile from her friends and home makes it hard to not feel at least a little sorry for her too.
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** In ''Part 3 - Phoenix'', Rainbow temporarily adopts Fluttershy's manestyle while mocking her. [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS5E8TheLostTreasureOfGriffonstone Come Season 5, and we get another instance where Rainbow Dash uses another character's manestyle while mocking them.]]

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** In ''Part 3 - Phoenix'', Rainbow temporarily adopts Fluttershy's manestyle while mocking her. [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS5E8TheLostTreasureOfGriffonstone Come Season 5, and we get another instance where Rainbow Dash uses another character's manestyle while mocking them.]] Then Season 6 came and [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS6E7NewbieDash had her copy all five - yes, including Fluttershy.]]
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** Trixie calls Rainbow "Rainbow Trash" throughout. In Season 6 it's revealed that her actual EmbarrassingNickname "Rainbow Crash" came from crashing into a garbage can, and Pinkie even notes that she was lucky to not end up with Trixie's version.
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*** What makes it funnier is that [[spoiler:Rainbow Dash makes a similar remark in the IDW comics regarding an EasilyForgiven villain... only for Twilight to rebuff with what would eventually become a [[MemeticMutation memetic line]]]].
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*** Several of these songs got [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=am8XucdLuZs revamped]] for the FanSequel ''My Little Ace Attorney: Elements of Justice''. The fuller instrumentation compounds the awesomeness.
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*** And while we're on the subject of said crossover, Twilight's book of "How to Become a Lawyer in 24 hours" is full of fantastic FloweryElizabethanEnglish, easily on par with that of Inquisitor Zacharias Barnham.
--> '''Twilight: Consult with thy accused in melancholy, lifting wisdom from thy plea of innocence.'''

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*** ** And while we're on the subject of said crossover, Twilight's book of "How to Become a Lawyer in 24 hours" is full of fantastic FloweryElizabethanEnglish, easily on par with that of Inquisitor Zacharias Barnham.
--> '''Twilight: --->'''Twilight:''' Consult with thy accused in melancholy, lifting wisdom from thy plea of innocence.'''

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* {{ArcWelding}}: [[spoiler: When Phoenix gives the large sack of reward money to Trixie, that might cause an unintentional one come the episode Magic Duel where she buys the Alicorn Amulet.]]
* {{Anvilicious}}: In the scenes between the credits of the final episode, Big Mac soapboxes about how it's fine to take pride in something you like, but shoving it down other peoples' throats is overbearing and problematic. In the context of the episode, he's referring to the Judge's behaviour outside the courtroom, but it's also a shot at the more overzealous members of the brony community.

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* {{ArcWelding}}: [[spoiler: When Phoenix gives the large sack of reward money to Trixie, that might cause an unintentional one come the episode Magic Duel where she buys the Alicorn Amulet.]]
* {{Anvilicious}}: In the scenes between the credits of the final episode, Big Mac soapboxes about how it's fine to take pride in something you like, but shoving it down other peoples' throats is overbearing and problematic. In the context of the episode, he's referring to the Judge's behaviour behavior outside the courtroom, but it's also a shot at the more overzealous members of the brony community.



** How else do you explain so many comments inmediately going [[{{Rule34}} through the kinky route]] as soon as embarassing pictures of Rainbow Dash are pointed out? Something not helped by lines such as ''"I didn't knew you were into that kind of stuff, Rainbow Dash!"'' and by Maya and Edgeworth's comments after Phoenix goes back home.
--->'''Maya:''' Nick... Do you want to talk about this? It's alright, eveyone has skeletons in their closet.\\

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** How else do you explain so many comments inmediately immediately going [[{{Rule34}} through the kinky route]] as soon as embarassing pictures of Rainbow Dash are pointed out? Something not helped by lines such as ''"I didn't knew you were into that kind of stuff, Rainbow Dash!"'' and by Maya and Edgeworth's comments after Phoenix goes back home.
--->'''Maya:''' Nick... Do you want to talk about this? It's alright, eveyone everyone has skeletons in their closet.\\



** The motive behind Pinkie telling Phoenix to not mention Ms. Mailmare's name in ''Part 3 - Phoenix'' was because of [[IHaveManyNames the little conflict that would arise]], which was shown in ''Part 3 - Twilight''. Unfortunately, without the latter's context, it was seen as an allusion to the unfortunate "Derpygate" conflict, where the issue of her name and original voice being removed from later broadcasts of the [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS2E14TheLastRoundup only episode she spoke in]] caused great conflict within the fandom. In reality, the gag was written and recorded before the conflict arised.

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** The motive behind Pinkie telling Phoenix to not mention Ms. Mailmare's name in ''Part 3 - Phoenix'' was because of [[IHaveManyNames the little conflict that would arise]], which was shown in ''Part 3 - Twilight''. Unfortunately, without the latter's context, it was seen as an allusion to the unfortunate "Derpygate" conflict, where the issue of her name and original voice being removed from later broadcasts of the [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS2E14TheLastRoundup only episode she spoke in]] caused great conflict within the fandom. In reality, the gag was written and recorded before the conflict arised.occurred.
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** The entire series is basically this with the episode "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS5E16RarityInvestigates Rarity Investigates]]", where Rainbow Dash has been accused of a crime she did not commit. The culprit is even pretty similar.

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** The entire series is basically this with the episode "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS5E16RarityInvestigates Rarity Investigates]]", [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS5E16RarityInvestigates "Rarity Investigates!"]], where Rainbow Dash has been accused of a crime she did not commit. The culprit is even pretty similar.
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** The entire series is basically this with the episode "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS5E16RarityInvestigates Rarity Investigates]]", where Rainbow Dash has been accused of a crime she did not commit.

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** The entire series is basically this with the episode "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS5E16RarityInvestigates Rarity Investigates]]", where Rainbow Dash has been accused of a crime she did not commit. The culprit is even pretty similar.
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** They considered the human justice system to be the pinnacle of justice in the universe. That's either hilarious or terrifying, depending on the context. Then ''[[ComicBook/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicIDW The Good, The Bad, and the Ponies]]'' comes out. The ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' justice system really ''is'' a step up.

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** They considered the human (read: [[KangarooCourt Ace Attorney universe]]) justice system to be the pinnacle of justice in the universe. That's either hilarious or terrifying, depending on the context. Then ''[[ComicBook/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicIDW The Good, The Bad, and the Ponies]]'' comes out. The ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' justice system really ''is'' a step up.
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** The entire series is basically this with the episode "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS5E16RarityInvestigates Rarity Investigates]]", where Rainbow Dash has been accused of a crime she did not commit.
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** They considered the human justice system to be the pinnacle of justice in the universe. That's either hilarious or terrifying, depending on the context. Then ''[[ComicBook/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicIDW The Good, The Bad and the Ponies]]'' comes out. The ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' justice system really ''is'' a step up.

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** They considered the human justice system to be the pinnacle of justice in the universe. That's either hilarious or terrifying, depending on the context. Then ''[[ComicBook/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicIDW The Good, The Bad Bad, and the Ponies]]'' comes out. The ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' justice system really ''is'' a step up.
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** They considered the human justice system to be the pinnacle of justice in the universe. That's either hilarious or terrifying, depending on the context. Then ''[[ComicBook/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicIDW The Good, The Bad and the Ponies]]'' comes out. The ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' justice system really ''is'' a step up.
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* {{ArcWelding}}: [[spoiler: When Phoenix gives the large sack of reward money to Trixie, that might cause an unintentional one come the episode Magic Duel where she buys the Alicorn Amulet.]]
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** In "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS3E12GamesPoniesPlay Games Ponies Play]]", Rarity messes up Cadence's hairstyle, and tells Twilight with horror "Imagine her hair looking like a porcupine!" Jury's still out though on her opinion of it on males, much less male humans, though.

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** In "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS3E12GamesPoniesPlay Games Ponies Play]]", Rarity messes up Cadence's hairstyle, and tells Twilight with horror "Imagine her hair looking like a porcupine!" Jury's still out though on her opinion of it on males, much less male humans, though.
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* CluelessAesop: Multiple times in the story characters praise the justice system in use and consider the judge to be fair when a huge moral of the ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' series is that the justice system in use is horrifyingly screwed up and ludicrously biased against whoever the police fingers. It was in fact largely conceived as a commentary on the highly problematic condition of the justice system in japan.



* TookALevelInDumbass: Fluttershy. She thinking Phoenix is an actual kind of phoenix is capable of denying WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief. Fluttershy's characterization in general could seem like Flanderization without the knowledge that the whole series was written before her character development in "Hurricane Fluttershy" and "Putting Your Hoof Down".
** Applejack gets this, too, to a degree, where she's portrayed as a bit dimmer than she actually is (she's in line with her maths dumb self), though it's not as obvious as it is with Fluttershy.
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** The final piece of testimony, wherein [[spoiler:Phoenix is trying to save Sonata as well by demonstrating that Ace Swift brought his death upon himself]], makes absolutely ''amazing'' use of ''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQZuu8hAeeA Confrontation ~ Presto]]'' from ''VisualNovel/AceAttorneyInvestigationsMilesEdgeworth''
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** In "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS3E12GamesPoniesPlay Games Ponies Play]]", Rarity messes up Cadence's hairstyle, and tells Twilight with horror "Imagine her hair looking like a porcupine!" And yet here she's the one pony who ''doesn't'' make fun of Phoenix's famous porcupine-hair.

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** In "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS3E12GamesPoniesPlay Games Ponies Play]]", Rarity messes up Cadence's hairstyle, and tells Twilight with horror "Imagine her hair looking like a porcupine!" And yet here she's the one pony who ''doesn't'' make fun Jury's still out though on her opinion of Phoenix's famous porcupine-hair.it on males, much less male humans, though.
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** The punishment for murder in this series, "Banishment to the moon (or the sun)", ''actually comes up'' in ''VisualNovel/AceAttorneyDualDestinies'', when defendant of case four (an astronaut) glumly tells the judge to banish him to the moon.

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** The punishment for murder in this series, "Banishment to the moon (or the sun)", ''actually comes up'' in ''VisualNovel/AceAttorneyDualDestinies'', ''VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyDualDestinies'', when the defendant of case four (an astronaut) glumly tells the judge to banish him to the moon.
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** The punishment for murder in this series, "Banishment to the moon (or the sun)", ''actually comes up'' in ''VisualNovel/AceAttorneyDualDestinies'', when defendant of case four (an astronaut) glumly tells the judge to banish him to the moon.
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** In ''Part 3 - Phoenix'', Rainbow temporarily adopts Fluttershy's manestyle while mocking her. [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS5E8TheLostTreasureOfGriffonstone Come Season 5, and we get another instance where Rainbow Dash uses another character's manestyle while mocking them.]]
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** Season 3 has had [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS3E5MagicDuel several]] [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS3E11KeepCalmAndFlutterOn episodes]], focused on redeeming past antagonists. [[spoiler: This series does a similar thing with Gilda]].

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** Season 3 has had [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS3E5MagicDuel several]] [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS3E11KeepCalmAndFlutterOn episodes]], focused on redeeming past antagonists. [[spoiler: This series does a similar thing with Gilda]].Gilda]], something that's become all the more heartwarming after [[spoiler: [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS5E8TheLostTreasureOfGriffonstone The Lost Treasure of Griffonstone]] actually did see Rainbow and Gilda mend their friendship.]]
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** [[spoiler: Sonata taunting Phoenix with "You'll find it hard defending your client from a prison cell". Later on we get [[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyDualDestinies Simon Blackquill]], an actual lawyer that ''is'' a convicted felon, albeit a prosecutor.]]
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*** Porcupine hair would not look good on a Princess who is supposed to look regal. However, on a male pony the porcupine look might look good, especially if it's to draw attention. Viewing it like this lessens the aneurysm a bit.
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* CluelessAesop: Multiple times in the story characters praise the justice system in use and consider the judge to be fair when a huge moral of the AceAttorney series is that the justice system in use is horrifyingly screwed up and ludicrously biased against whoever the police fingers. It was in fact largely conceived as a commentary on the highly problematic condition of the justice system in japan.

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* CluelessAesop: Multiple times in the story characters praise the justice system in use and consider the judge to be fair when a huge moral of the AceAttorney ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' series is that the justice system in use is horrifyingly screwed up and ludicrously biased against whoever the police fingers. It was in fact largely conceived as a commentary on the highly problematic condition of the justice system in japan.

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*** Porcupine hair would not look good on a Princess who is supposed to look
regal. However, on a male pony the porcupine look might look good, especially if it's to draw attention. Viewing it like this lessens the aneurysm a bit.

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*** Porcupine hair would not look good on a Princess who is supposed to look
look regal. However, on a male pony the porcupine look might look good, especially if it's to draw attention. Viewing it like this lessens the aneurysm a bit.
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* CluelessAesop: Multiple times in the story characters praise the justice system in use and consider the judge to be fair when a huge moral of the AceAttorney series is that the justice system in use is horrifyingly screwed up and ludicrously biased against whoever the police fingers. It was in fact largely conceived as a commentary on the highly problematic condition of the justice system in japan.

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