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* BrokenBase: Reviewers and Disney fans either find this movie an underrated and ambitious classic that should have been more successful or a bizarre and rather boring failed experiment.
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** Reviewers and Disney fans either find this movie an underrated and ambitious classic that should have been more successful or a bizarre and rather boring failedexperiment.experiment.
** Perhaps the most divisive aspect of the film and what is likely gonna make it or break it for a lot of people is the overall setting, which combines the WoodenShipsAndIronMen setting of the original ''Literature/TreasureIsland'' with an sci-fi SpaceOpera setting. Some either find it to be an incredibly cool, distinctive and creative setting that makes it stand out from other adaptations of ''Treasure Island'', while others find the mix of two inherently opposing settings to be too bizarre and off-putting for it to work.
** Reviewers and Disney fans either find this movie an underrated and ambitious classic that should have been more successful or a bizarre and rather boring failed
** Perhaps the most divisive aspect of the film and what is likely gonna make it or break it for a lot of people is the overall setting, which combines the WoodenShipsAndIronMen setting of the original ''Literature/TreasureIsland'' with an sci-fi SpaceOpera setting. Some either find it to be an incredibly cool, distinctive and creative setting that makes it stand out from other adaptations of ''Treasure Island'', while others find the mix of two inherently opposing settings to be too bizarre and off-putting for it to work.
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: B.E.N. Viewers will either find him hilarious or just annoying.
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** Another one of Silver's pirate crew is the FatBastard Grewnge/Meltdown, whom some fans veiw as a BigHandsomeMan along with his SugarWiki/CrowningMomentOfAwesome of shooting the astroids with his BFG.
* EstrogenBrigade: Jim himself has perhaps one of biggest collection of fangirls out of all the Disney human males. His character design, his TroubledButCute personality, his smarts and action scenes, and the fact that he's voiced by a now big time celebrity Creator/JosephGordonLevitt and is one of the rare handsome Disney heroes that remains single all factor into this, even with the fact that he's 15 years old (probably because he certainly doesn't ''[[YoungerThanTheyLook look]]'' [[YoungerThanTheyLook that young]].)
* EstrogenBrigade: Jim himself has perhaps one of biggest collection of fangirls out of all the Disney human males. His character design, his TroubledButCute personality, his smarts and action scenes, and the fact that he's voiced by a now big time celebrity Creator/JosephGordonLevitt and is one of the rare handsome Disney heroes that remains single all factor into this, even with the fact that he's 15 years old (probably because he certainly doesn't ''[[YoungerThanTheyLook look]]'' [[YoungerThanTheyLook that young]].)
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** Another one of Silver's pirate crew is the FatBastard Grewnge/Meltdown, whom some fans veiw view as a BigHandsomeMan along with his SugarWiki/CrowningMomentOfAwesome of shooting the astroids asteroids with his BFG.
* EstrogenBrigade: Jim himself has perhaps one of biggest collection of fangirls out of all the Disney human males. His character design, his TroubledButCute personality, his smarts and action scenes, and the fact that he's voiced by a now big time celebrity Creator/JosephGordonLevitt and is one of the rare handsome Disney heroes that remains single all factor into this, even with the fact that he's15 years old 15-years-old (probably because he certainly doesn't ''[[YoungerThanTheyLook look]]'' [[YoungerThanTheyLook that young]].)
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** Alex Ubago's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXPv1OvPXVk Spanish rendition]] of "I'm Still Here" in the European Spanish dub.
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* MagnificentBastard: [[AntiVillain John Silver]] is a [[AffablyEvil jovial]], [[NobleDemon honorable]] {{cyborg}} doubling as a pirate captain in his lifelong quest to find the titular "Treasure Planet" housing the legendary treasure of Nathaniel Flint. Tracking down the map to Treasure Planet on the planet Montressor, Silver burns down an inn seeking the map, and later insinuates himself and his pirate crew to join the RLS ''Legacy'' on its own expedition to find Treasure Planet. Casting himself as a lowly grub cook to avoid suspicion, all while growing close to the young man in possession of the map, Jim Hawkins, Silver eventually orchestrates a [[TheMutiny mutiny]], taking over the ''Legacy'' and holding its crew hostage to force Jim to help Silver decipher the map. Successfully finding Flint's treasure, Silver ends up [[HeelFaceTurn sacrificing the unending troves of gold and jewels to save Jim's life]], having grown to [[LikeASonToMe genuinely care for him as a surrogate son]], and slips away at the end of the film with no punishment for his crimes, utterly content and happy with the fact that his quest for riches instead lead him into a friendship with Jim -- even giving Jim the final parting gift of Silver's treasured pet Morph.
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* MagnificentBastard: MagnificentBastard:
** [[AntiVillain John Silver]] is a [[AffablyEvil jovial]],[[NobleDemon honorable]] honorable {{cyborg}} doubling as a pirate captain in his lifelong quest to find the titular "Treasure Planet" housing the legendary treasure of Nathaniel Flint. Tracking down the map to Treasure Planet on the planet Montressor, Silver burns down an inn seeking the map, and later insinuates himself and his pirate crew to join the RLS ''Legacy'' on its own expedition to find Treasure Planet. Casting himself as a lowly grub cook to avoid suspicion, all while growing close to the young man in possession of the map, Jim Hawkins, Silver eventually orchestrates a [[TheMutiny mutiny]], taking over the ''Legacy'' and holding its crew hostage to force Jim to help Silver decipher the map. Successfully finding Flint's treasure, Silver ends up [[HeelFaceTurn sacrificing the unending troves of gold and jewels to save Jim's life]], having grown to [[LikeASonToMe genuinely care for him as a surrogate son]], and slips away at the end of the film with no punishment for his crimes, utterly content and happy with the fact that his quest for riches instead lead him into a friendship with Jim -- even giving Jim the final parting gift of Silver's treasured pet Morph.Morph.
** [[PosthumousCharacter Captain Nathaniel Flint]] was the most accomplished and [[TheDreaded most feared]] space pirate in the history of the Etherium. In life, Flint made away with enough ill-gotten loot to fill the core of an entire planet, and in death, Flint's trove became the eye of every treasure hunter in the cosmos. Not even the shrewd and cunning Silver and his band of pirates are ultimately able to make off with his treasure, as Flint was so thorough in rigging Treasure Planet with death traps to ensure [[NoMacGuffinNoWinner the treasure stayed his]], even post-mortem, that only a few doubloons survive. Even as a decaying skeleton, Flint is the only one ever able to truly appreciate his hard-earned treasure, a testament to the pirate whose greed was so vast that he made his name a literal legend.
** [[AntiVillain John Silver]] is a [[AffablyEvil jovial]],
** [[PosthumousCharacter Captain Nathaniel Flint]] was the most accomplished and [[TheDreaded most feared]] space pirate in the history of the Etherium. In life, Flint made away with enough ill-gotten loot to fill the core of an entire planet, and in death, Flint's trove became the eye of every treasure hunter in the cosmos. Not even the shrewd and cunning Silver and his band of pirates are ultimately able to make off with his treasure, as Flint was so thorough in rigging Treasure Planet with death traps to ensure [[NoMacGuffinNoWinner the treasure stayed his]], even post-mortem, that only a few doubloons survive. Even as a decaying skeleton, Flint is the only one ever able to truly appreciate his hard-earned treasure, a testament to the pirate whose greed was so vast that he made his name a literal legend.
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* EvilIsCool: He's a Disney villain, so, ''duh'', but Scroop certainly works overtime for that role. A giant sociopathic spider-monster with the gravelly-smooth voice of Creator/MichaelWincott? Yup, he fits.
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** He's a Disney villain, so, ''duh'', but Scroop certainly works overtime for that role. A giant sociopathic spider-monster with the gravelly-smooth voice of Creator/MichaelWincott? Yup, he fits.
** Long John Silver has always fallen under this, and it goes double for this version since he's a cyborg.
** He's a Disney villain, so, ''duh'', but Scroop certainly works overtime for that role. A giant sociopathic spider-monster with the gravelly-smooth voice of Creator/MichaelWincott? Yup, he fits.
** Long John Silver has always fallen under this, and it goes double for this version since he's a cyborg.
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* SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome: The whole movie easily qualifies; the space sequences in particular are ''stunning''.
** Much like ''WesternAnimation/TheIronGiant'', the blending of traditional and computer animation is amazing. Especially with Silver, a hand drawn character, and his CG robotic arm, leg and eye.
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* SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome: The whole movie easily qualifies; the space sequences in particular are ''stunning''.
**Much like ''WesternAnimation/TheIronGiant'', the blending of traditional and computer animation in the whole movie, especially the space sequences is amazing. Especially with Silver, a hand drawn character, and his CG robotic arm, leg and eye.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Scroop is easily the most distinctive and characterized of Silver's pirate crew, and the writers seem to hint that he'll play [[TheStarscream Starscream]] given Silver's increasingly sympathetic nature and Scroop's clear dissatisfaction with following orders. Aside from [[spoiler:killing Mr. Arrow and a fight with Jim]], Scroop doesn't do much, and he doesn't make it to the climax.
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** Scroop is easily the most distinctive and characterized of Silver's pirate crew, and the writers seem to hint that he'll play [[TheStarscream Starscream]] given Silver's increasingly sympathetic nature and Scroop's clear dissatisfaction with following orders. Aside from [[spoiler:killing Mr. Arrow and a fight with Jim]], Scroop doesn't do much, and he doesn't make it to theclimax.climax.
** The film doesn't do all that much with Mr. Arrow, which for some, [[spoiler:makes his death fall flat]].
** Scroop is easily the most distinctive and characterized of Silver's pirate crew, and the writers seem to hint that he'll play [[TheStarscream Starscream]] given Silver's increasingly sympathetic nature and Scroop's clear dissatisfaction with following orders. Aside from [[spoiler:killing Mr. Arrow and a fight with Jim]], Scroop doesn't do much, and he doesn't make it to the
** The film doesn't do all that much with Mr. Arrow, which for some, [[spoiler:makes his death fall flat]].
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* {{Expy}}: ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' fans who see this film might note that, aside from his ability to float in the air, Morph is essentially ''Treasure Planet'''s answer to Ditto; both are animate blobs of pink goo that can shapeshift.
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* {{Expy}}: ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' fans who see this film might note that, aside from his ability to float in the air, Morph is essentially ''Treasure Planet'''s answer to Ditto; both are animate blobs of pink goo that can shapeshift.
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* EstrogenBrigade: Jim himself has perhaps one of biggest collection of fangirls out of all the Disney human males. His character design, his TroubledButCute personality, his smarts and action scenes, and the fact that he's voiced by a now big time celebrity Creator/JosephGordonLevitt and is one of the rare handsome Disney heroes that remains single all factor into this, even with the fact that [[{{Jailbait}} he's 15 years old]] (probably because he certainly doesn't ''[[YoungerThanTheyLook look]]'' [[YoungerThanTheyLook that young]].)
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* EstrogenBrigade: Jim himself has perhaps one of biggest collection of fangirls out of all the Disney human males. His character design, his TroubledButCute personality, his smarts and action scenes, and the fact that he's voiced by a now big time celebrity Creator/JosephGordonLevitt and is one of the rare handsome Disney heroes that remains single all factor into this, even with the fact that [[{{Jailbait}} he's 15 years old]] old (probably because he certainly doesn't ''[[YoungerThanTheyLook look]]'' [[YoungerThanTheyLook that young]].)
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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: Often cited as the reason for this film's failure at the box office. Instead of making a straight forward pirate adventure film or an updated futuristic space opera with spaceships, the film tries to do both and ends up with wooden galleons flying through space and aliens dressed like 18th Century Europeans. A lot of critics found this mixture of two completely different settings too bizarre.
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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: Often cited as the reason for this film's failure at the box office. Instead of making a straight forward pirate adventure film or an updated futuristic space opera with spaceships, the film tries to do both and ends up with wooden galleons flying through space and aliens dressed like 18th Century Europeans. A lot of critics found this mixture of two completely different settings too bizarre.bizarre, despite having some praise for the story and characters.
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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: Often cited as the reason for this film's failure at the box office. Instead of making a straight forward pirate adventure film or an updated futuristic space opera with spaceships, the film tries to do both and ends up with wooden galleons flying through space and aliens dressed like 18th Century Europeans. A lot of critics found this mixture of two completely different settings too bizarre.
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* BrokenBase: Reviewers and Disney fans either find this movie an underrated and ambitious classic that should have been more successful or a bizarre and rather boring failed experiment
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** Captain Amelia, partially due to being the major [[TheSmurfettePrinciple Token Chick]] in the film, considering that there was a severe lack of female characters in the original Robert Louis Stevenson novel, mostly because she's a badass, snarky, LadyOfWar. That and [[MsFanservice other]] [[UsefulNotes/FurryFandom reasons]].
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** Captain Amelia, partially due to being the major [[TheSmurfettePrinciple Token Chick]] token girl]] in the film, considering that there was a severe lack of female characters in the original Robert Louis Stevenson novel, mostly because she's a badass, snarky, LadyOfWar. That and [[MsFanservice other]] [[UsefulNotes/FurryFandom reasons]].
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** Captain Flint has even less screentime than Scroop, but he sure makes a hell of an impression with his creepy design and [[TheDreaded sheer viciousness.]]
** Another one of Silver's pirate crew is the FatBastard Grewnge/Meltdown, whom some fans veiw him as a BigHandsomeMan along with his SugarWiki/CrowningMomentOfAwesome being him shoooting the astroids with his BFG.
* EstrogenBrigade: Jim himself has perhaps one of biggest collection of fangirls out of all the Disney human males. His character design, his TroubledButCute personality, his smarts and action scenes, and the facts that he is voiced by a now big time celebrity Creator/JosephGordonLevitt and is one of the rare handsome Disney heroes that remains single all factor into this, even with the fact that [[{{Jailbait}} he's 15 years old]] (probably because he certainly doesn't ''[[YoungerThanTheyLook look]]'' [[YoungerThanTheyLook that young]].)
** Another one of Silver's pirate crew is the FatBastard Grewnge/Meltdown, whom some fans veiw him as a BigHandsomeMan along with his SugarWiki/CrowningMomentOfAwesome being him shoooting the astroids with his BFG.
* EstrogenBrigade: Jim himself has perhaps one of biggest collection of fangirls out of all the Disney human males. His character design, his TroubledButCute personality, his smarts and action scenes, and the facts that he is voiced by a now big time celebrity Creator/JosephGordonLevitt and is one of the rare handsome Disney heroes that remains single all factor into this, even with the fact that [[{{Jailbait}} he's 15 years old]] (probably because he certainly doesn't ''[[YoungerThanTheyLook look]]'' [[YoungerThanTheyLook that young]].)
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viciousness]].
** Another one of Silver's pirate crew is the FatBastard Grewnge/Meltdown, whom some fans veiwhim as a BigHandsomeMan along with his SugarWiki/CrowningMomentOfAwesome being him shoooting of shooting the astroids with his BFG.
* EstrogenBrigade: Jim himself has perhaps one of biggest collection of fangirls out of all the Disney human males. His character design, his TroubledButCute personality, his smarts and action scenes, and thefacts fact that he is he's voiced by a now big time celebrity Creator/JosephGordonLevitt and is one of the rare handsome Disney heroes that remains single all factor into this, even with the fact that [[{{Jailbait}} he's 15 years old]] (probably because he certainly doesn't ''[[YoungerThanTheyLook look]]'' [[YoungerThanTheyLook that young]].)
** Another one of Silver's pirate crew is the FatBastard Grewnge/Meltdown, whom some fans veiw
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** The fact that there exists a [[https://animatedviews.com/2014/buried-treasure-the-ill-fated-voyage-to-treasure-planet-2/ canon plot]] for the sequel that was never made, it certainly has some fans taking it and running with it. Fan works of Kate, who would have been Jim's LoveInterest (a cute human-looking alien with lion-like features) aren't hard to find, while the most popular scenario, whether inspired by the abandoned sequel or not, is usually to have Jim and Silver reunite again.
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** The fact that there exists a [[https://animatedviews.com/2014/buried-treasure-the-ill-fated-voyage-to-treasure-planet-2/ canon plot]] for the sequel that was never made, it certainly has some fans taking it and running with it. Fan works of Kate, who would have been Jim's LoveInterest (a cute human-looking alien with lion-like features) aren't hard to find, while the most popular scenario, whether inspired by the abandoned sequel or not, is usually to have Jim and Silver reunite again.
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* GeniusBonus: Etherium, the [[AppliedPhlebotinum substance]] that fills the space between the planets, the stuff that ships fly through, is based on a real element of 19th century physics, Ether, believed (by some, to this day) to be [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aether_%28classical_element%29 the medium light travels through]] instead of what is now normally taken for "empty space". The concept, once taken for granted, is now only known to those who study 19th century physics (and [[SeriousBusiness serious]] SteamPunk fans).
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* GeniusBonus: Etherium, the [[AppliedPhlebotinum substance]] that fills the space between the planets, the stuff that ships fly through, is based on a real "real" element of 19th century physics, Ether, believed (by some, to this day) to be [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aether_%28classical_element%29 the medium light travels through]] instead of what is now normally taken for "empty space". The concept, once taken for granted, is now only known to those who study 19th century physics (and [[SeriousBusiness serious]] SteamPunk fans).
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* ItWasHisSled: It's ''Treasure Island'' InSpace with SteamPunk elements--a story that most everybody knows by heart, regardless of whether they've actually read the book. The film does add its own twists and ideas here and there, but as it is otherwise impressively faithful to the book, don't expect any ''major'' surprises.
* LauncherOfAThousandShips: Jim has been paired with every Disney girl ever (particularly [[WesternAnimation/TheLittleMermaid1989 Ariel]] and [[WesternAnimation/TheLittleMermaidIIReturnToTheSea Melody]]), extending to non-Disney girls like [[WesternAnimation/TheSwanPrincess Odette]] and even anime girls like Anime/SailorMoon and Anime/PrincessTutu. Ironically he is a CelibateHero in the movie. He is also shipped a lot with Silver, and on the crossover slashy side, [[WesternAnimation/SinbadLegendOfTheSevenSeas Sinbad]], WesternAnimation/{{Aladdin}}, or [[WesternAnimation/{{Anastasia}} Dimitri]] are popularly shipped with him. Let's just say for a film featuring one of Disney's (Renaissance-onward) rare celibate heroes, the fans really like the idea of him finding more adventures out there (although Jim would have had a love interest named Kate in a cancelled sequel to the film).
* MagnificentBastard: [[AntiVillain John Silver]] is a jovial, honorable {{cyborg}} doubling as a pirate captain in his lifelong quest to find the titular "Treasure Planet" housing the legendary treasure of Nathaniel Flint. Tracking down the map to Treasure Planet on the planet Montressor, Silver burns down an inn seeking the map, and later manipulates himself and his pirate crew to join the RLS ''Legacy'' on its own expedition to find Treasure Planet. Casting himself as a lowly grub cook to avoid suspicion all while growing close to the young man in possession of the map, Jim Hawkins, Silver eventually orchestrates a [[TheMutiny mutiny]], taking over the ''Legacy'' and holding its crew hostage to force Jim to help Silver decipher the map. Successfully finding Flint's treasure, Silver ends up [[HeelFaceTurn sacrificing the unending troves of gold and jewels to save Jim's life]], having grown to [[LikeASonToMe genuinely care for him as a surrogate son]], and slips away at the end of the film with no punishment for his crimes, utterly content and happy with the fact that his quest for riches instead lead him into a friendship with Jim--even giving Jim the final parting gift of Silver's treasured pet Morph.
* LauncherOfAThousandShips: Jim has been paired with every Disney girl ever (particularly [[WesternAnimation/TheLittleMermaid1989 Ariel]] and [[WesternAnimation/TheLittleMermaidIIReturnToTheSea Melody]]), extending to non-Disney girls like [[WesternAnimation/TheSwanPrincess Odette]] and even anime girls like Anime/SailorMoon and Anime/PrincessTutu. Ironically he is a CelibateHero in the movie. He is also shipped a lot with Silver, and on the crossover slashy side, [[WesternAnimation/SinbadLegendOfTheSevenSeas Sinbad]], WesternAnimation/{{Aladdin}}, or [[WesternAnimation/{{Anastasia}} Dimitri]] are popularly shipped with him. Let's just say for a film featuring one of Disney's (Renaissance-onward) rare celibate heroes, the fans really like the idea of him finding more adventures out there (although Jim would have had a love interest named Kate in a cancelled sequel to the film).
* MagnificentBastard: [[AntiVillain John Silver]] is a jovial, honorable {{cyborg}} doubling as a pirate captain in his lifelong quest to find the titular "Treasure Planet" housing the legendary treasure of Nathaniel Flint. Tracking down the map to Treasure Planet on the planet Montressor, Silver burns down an inn seeking the map, and later manipulates himself and his pirate crew to join the RLS ''Legacy'' on its own expedition to find Treasure Planet. Casting himself as a lowly grub cook to avoid suspicion all while growing close to the young man in possession of the map, Jim Hawkins, Silver eventually orchestrates a [[TheMutiny mutiny]], taking over the ''Legacy'' and holding its crew hostage to force Jim to help Silver decipher the map. Successfully finding Flint's treasure, Silver ends up [[HeelFaceTurn sacrificing the unending troves of gold and jewels to save Jim's life]], having grown to [[LikeASonToMe genuinely care for him as a surrogate son]], and slips away at the end of the film with no punishment for his crimes, utterly content and happy with the fact that his quest for riches instead lead him into a friendship with Jim--even giving Jim the final parting gift of Silver's treasured pet Morph.
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* ItWasHisSled: It's ''Treasure Island'' InSpace with SteamPunk elements--a elements -- a story that most everybody knows by heart, regardless of whether they've actually read the book. The film does add its own twists and ideas here and there, but as it is it's otherwise impressively faithful to the book, don't expect any ''major'' surprises.
* LauncherOfAThousandShips: Jim has been paired with every Disney girl ever (particularly [[WesternAnimation/TheLittleMermaid1989 Ariel]] and [[WesternAnimation/TheLittleMermaidIIReturnToTheSea Melody]]), extending to non-Disney girls like [[WesternAnimation/TheSwanPrincess Odette]] and even anime girls like Anime/SailorMoon and Anime/PrincessTutu. Ironicallyhe is he's a CelibateHero in the movie. He is He's also shipped a lot with Silver, and on the crossover slashy side, [[WesternAnimation/SinbadLegendOfTheSevenSeas Sinbad]], WesternAnimation/{{Aladdin}}, or [[WesternAnimation/{{Anastasia}} Dimitri]] are popularly shipped with him. Let's just say for a film featuring one of Disney's (Renaissance-onward) rare celibate heroes, the fans really like the idea of him finding more adventures out there (although Jim would have had a love interest named Kate in a cancelled sequel to the film).
* MagnificentBastard: [[AntiVillain John Silver]] is ajovial, honorable [[AffablyEvil jovial]], [[NobleDemon honorable]] {{cyborg}} doubling as a pirate captain in his lifelong quest to find the titular "Treasure Planet" housing the legendary treasure of Nathaniel Flint. Tracking down the map to Treasure Planet on the planet Montressor, Silver burns down an inn seeking the map, and later manipulates insinuates himself and his pirate crew to join the RLS ''Legacy'' on its own expedition to find Treasure Planet. Casting himself as a lowly grub cook to avoid suspicion suspicion, all while growing close to the young man in possession of the map, Jim Hawkins, Silver eventually orchestrates a [[TheMutiny mutiny]], taking over the ''Legacy'' and holding its crew hostage to force Jim to help Silver decipher the map. Successfully finding Flint's treasure, Silver ends up [[HeelFaceTurn sacrificing the unending troves of gold and jewels to save Jim's life]], having grown to [[LikeASonToMe genuinely care for him as a surrogate son]], and slips away at the end of the film with no punishment for his crimes, utterly content and happy with the fact that his quest for riches instead lead him into a friendship with Jim--even Jim -- even giving Jim the final parting gift of Silver's treasured pet Morph.
* LauncherOfAThousandShips: Jim has been paired with every Disney girl ever (particularly [[WesternAnimation/TheLittleMermaid1989 Ariel]] and [[WesternAnimation/TheLittleMermaidIIReturnToTheSea Melody]]), extending to non-Disney girls like [[WesternAnimation/TheSwanPrincess Odette]] and even anime girls like Anime/SailorMoon and Anime/PrincessTutu. Ironically
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** [[https://pics.me.me/you-give-up-a-few-things-chasing-a-dream-fydisneymisfits-46115678.png The shot of Silver vaguely hinting at what cost him his limbs]] is quite popular on Imgur...Imgur as a response [[https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/069/590/bd2.png to another picture]] whenever [[VideoGame/NierAutomata 2B]] is mentionned.mentioned.
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* SignatureScene: Silver's encouraging speech to Jim ("You got the makings of greatness in ya'") is often remembered by fans as the most heartwarming and iconic scene of the movie, and a go-to speech for many needing uplifting words in their own real lives. It's doubly heartwarming when director John Musker apparently based it on a real life speech he'd received as a young boy from his football coach that ended with both of them in tears.
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* SignatureScene: Silver's encouraging speech to Jim ("You got the makings of greatness in ya'") ya'!") is often remembered by fans as the most heartwarming and iconic scene of the movie, and a go-to speech for many needing uplifting words in their own real lives. It's doubly heartwarming when director John Musker apparently based it on a real life speech he'd received as a young boy from his football coach that ended with both of them in tears.
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* WinBackTheCrowd: Like ''WesternAnimation/AtlantisTheLostEmpire'' before it, it tries to draw in an adult crowd with its highly thematic sci-fi settings and story, along with fantastical effects and large amounts of action along the way. It received considerably higher praise than the aforementioned film but not enough to secure success at the box office. History, however, has proven kinder to it and it is now a beloved CultClassic.
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* WinBackTheCrowd: Like ''WesternAnimation/AtlantisTheLostEmpire'' before it, it tries to draw in an adult crowd with its highly thematic sci-fi settings and story, along with fantastical effects and large amounts of action along the way. It received considerably higher praise than the aforementioned film but not enough to secure success at the box office. History, however, has proven kinder to it it, and it is it's now a beloved CultClassic.
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** [[BreakTheCutie Morph]] resembles a kicked puppy when Silver tells Jim that he cares just about the treasure.
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* {{Expy}}: Any Franchise/{{Pokemon}} fans who saw this film may have noticed that Morph bears strong similarities to Ditto: Both are mobile blobs of pink goo, and both can shapeshift. Coincidence? Doubtful...
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* {{Expy}}: Any Franchise/{{Pokemon}} fans who saw this film may have noticed that Morph bears strong similarities to Ditto: Both are mobile blobs of pink goo, and both can shapeshift. Coincidence? Doubtful...
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: B.E.N. People will either find him hilarious or just annoying.
* BrokenBase: To people who watched the film, it's either an underrated classic that should have been more successful or a bizarre, unremarkable and boring failed experiment
* BrokenBase: To people who watched the film, it's either an underrated classic that should have been more successful or a bizarre, unremarkable and boring failed experiment
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: B.E.N. People Viewers will either find him hilarious or just annoying.
* BrokenBase:To people who watched the film, it's Reviewers and Disney fans either find this movie an underrated and ambitious classic that should have been more successful or a bizarre, unremarkable bizarre and rather boring failed experiment
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** Amelia with [[WesternAnimation/{{Tarzan}} Jane Porter]], as both have quite a lot in common: posh British accents, traveling by ship and even somewhat similar body types (they share an animator in Ken Duncan).
** Jim with a lot of different characters.
* CultClassic: Considered by fans to be a forgotten Disney classic, and like ''WesternAnimation/AtlantisTheLostEmpire'', fans are patiently waiting the day for when Disney chooses to retry this one for one of their live-action remakes.
** Jim with a lot of different characters.
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** Amelia with [[WesternAnimation/{{Tarzan}} Jane Porter]], as both have quite a lot in common: posh British accents, traveling by ship ship, and even somewhat similar body types (they share an animator in Ken Duncan).
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characters (see LauncherOfAThousandShips below).
* CultClassic: Considered by fans to be a forgotten Disney classic, and like ''WesternAnimation/AtlantisTheLostEmpire'',fans they are patiently waiting the day for when Disney chooses to retry this one for one of their live-action remakes.
** Jim with a lot of different
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** Scroop, Silver's nightmarishly creepy [[TheDragon dragon]], despite not having ''that'' much screentime before being booted off into space, is well-remembered by fans for his menacing voice, cool design, and [[spoiler:successfully murdering Mr. Arrow onscreen]].
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** Scroop, Silver's nightmarishly creepy [[TheDragon dragon]], Dragon]], despite not having ''that'' much screentime before being booted off into space, is well-remembered by fans for his menacing voice, cool design, and [[spoiler:successfully murdering Mr. Arrow onscreen]].
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* EstrogenBrigade: Jim himself has perhaps one of biggest collection of fangirls out of all the Disney human males. The fact he is voiced by a now big time celebrity Creator/JosephGordonLevitt, his character design, his TroubledButCute personality, the fact that he is one of the rare handsome Disney heroes that remains single, his smarts and action scenes are all factors to this, even with the fact that [[{{Jailbait}} he's 15 years old]] (probably because he certainly doesn't ''[[YoungerThanTheyLook look]]'' [[YoungerThanTheyLook that young]].)
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* EstrogenBrigade: Jim himself has perhaps one of biggest collection of fangirls out of all the Disney human males. The fact he is voiced by a now big time celebrity Creator/JosephGordonLevitt, his His character design, his TroubledButCute personality, his smarts and action scenes, and the fact facts that he is voiced by a now big time celebrity Creator/JosephGordonLevitt and is one of the rare handsome Disney heroes that remains single, his smarts and action scenes are single all factors to factor into this, even with the fact that [[{{Jailbait}} he's 15 years old]] (probably because he certainly doesn't ''[[YoungerThanTheyLook look]]'' [[YoungerThanTheyLook that young]].)
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** The fact that there exists a [[https://animatedviews.com/2014/buried-treasure-the-ill-fated-voyage-to-treasure-planet-2/ canon plot]] for the sequel that was never made, it certainly has some fans taking it and running with it. Fan works of Kate who would have been Jim's LoveInterest (a cute human-looking alien with lion-like features) aren't hard to find, while the most popular scenario, whether inspired by the abandoned sequel or not, is usually to have Jim and Silver reunite again.
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** The fact that there exists a [[https://animatedviews.com/2014/buried-treasure-the-ill-fated-voyage-to-treasure-planet-2/ canon plot]] for the sequel that was never made, it certainly has some fans taking it and running with it. Fan works of Kate Kate, who would have been Jim's LoveInterest (a cute human-looking alien with lion-like features) aren't hard to find, while the most popular scenario, whether inspired by the abandoned sequel or not, is usually to have Jim and Silver reunite again.
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* {{Fanon}}: Fanfic writers have given Captain Amelia the surname Smollett after the captain from the original story.
* FriendlyFandoms: Fans of this movie are almost universally fans of ''WesternAnimation/AtlantisTheLostEmpire'' and vice versa, thanks to both of them being SteamPunk Disney adventure movies with a greater focus on action than on music and comedy, that subsequently [[AcclaimedFlop didn't do well at the box office]] but are now widely regarded as [[VindicatedByHistory ahead of their time]], and frequently top lists of the most underrated Disney movies.
* GeniusBonus: Etherium, the [[AppliedPhlebotinum substance]] that fills the space between the planets, the stuff that ships fly through, is based on a real element of 19th century physics, Ether, believed (by some, to this day) to be [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aether_%28classical_element%29 the medium light travels through,]] instead of what is now normally taken for "empty space". The concept, once taken for granted, is now only known to those who study 19th century physics, and [[SeriousBusiness serious]] SteamPunk fans.
* FriendlyFandoms: Fans of this movie are almost universally fans of ''WesternAnimation/AtlantisTheLostEmpire'' and vice versa, thanks to both of them being SteamPunk Disney adventure movies with a greater focus on action than on music and comedy, that subsequently [[AcclaimedFlop didn't do well at the box office]] but are now widely regarded as [[VindicatedByHistory ahead of their time]], and frequently top lists of the most underrated Disney movies.
* GeniusBonus: Etherium, the [[AppliedPhlebotinum substance]] that fills the space between the planets, the stuff that ships fly through, is based on a real element of 19th century physics, Ether, believed (by some, to this day) to be [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aether_%28classical_element%29 the medium light travels through,]] instead of what is now normally taken for "empty space". The concept, once taken for granted, is now only known to those who study 19th century physics, and [[SeriousBusiness serious]] SteamPunk fans.
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* {{Fanon}}: Fanfic writers have given Captain Amelia the surname Smollett "Smollett" after the captain from the original story.
* FriendlyFandoms: Fans of this movie are almost universally fans of ''WesternAnimation/AtlantisTheLostEmpire'' and vice versa, thanks to both of them being SteamPunk Disney adventure movies with a greater focus on action than on music andcomedy, comedy that subsequently [[AcclaimedFlop didn't do well at the box office]] but are now widely regarded as [[VindicatedByHistory ahead of their time]], time]] and frequently top lists of the most underrated Disney movies.
* GeniusBonus: Etherium, the [[AppliedPhlebotinum substance]] that fills the space between the planets, the stuff that ships fly through, is based on a real element of 19th century physics, Ether, believed (by some, to this day) to be [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aether_%28classical_element%29 the medium light travelsthrough,]] through]] instead of what is now normally taken for "empty space". The concept, once taken for granted, is now only known to those who study 19th century physics, and physics (and [[SeriousBusiness serious]] SteamPunk fans.fans).
* FriendlyFandoms: Fans of this movie are almost universally fans of ''WesternAnimation/AtlantisTheLostEmpire'' and vice versa, thanks to both of them being SteamPunk Disney adventure movies with a greater focus on action than on music and
* GeniusBonus: Etherium, the [[AppliedPhlebotinum substance]] that fills the space between the planets, the stuff that ships fly through, is based on a real element of 19th century physics, Ether, believed (by some, to this day) to be [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aether_%28classical_element%29 the medium light travels
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* LauncherOfAThousandShips: Jim has been paired with every Disney girl ever (particularly [[WesternAnimation/TheLittleMermaid1989 Ariel]] and [[WesternAnimation/TheLittleMermaidIIReturnToTheSea Melody]]), extending to non-Disney girls like [[WesternAnimation/TheSwanPrincess Odette]] and even anime girls like Anime/SailorMoon and Anime/PrincessTutu. Ironically he is a CelibateHero in the movie. He is also shipped a lot with Silver, and on the crossover slashy side, [[WesternAnimation/SinbadLegendOfTheSevenSeas Sinbad]], WesternAnimation/{{Aladdin}} or [[WesternAnimation/{{Anastasia}} Dimitri]] are popularly shipped with him. Let's just say for a film featuring one of Disney's (Renaissance-onward) rare celibate heroes, the fans really like the idea of him finding more adventures out there... Although Jim would have had a love interest named Kate in a cancelled sequel to the film.
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* LauncherOfAThousandShips: Jim has been paired with every Disney girl ever (particularly [[WesternAnimation/TheLittleMermaid1989 Ariel]] and [[WesternAnimation/TheLittleMermaidIIReturnToTheSea Melody]]), extending to non-Disney girls like [[WesternAnimation/TheSwanPrincess Odette]] and even anime girls like Anime/SailorMoon and Anime/PrincessTutu. Ironically he is a CelibateHero in the movie. He is also shipped a lot with Silver, and on the crossover slashy side, [[WesternAnimation/SinbadLegendOfTheSevenSeas Sinbad]], WesternAnimation/{{Aladdin}} WesternAnimation/{{Aladdin}}, or [[WesternAnimation/{{Anastasia}} Dimitri]] are popularly shipped with him. Let's just say for a film featuring one of Disney's (Renaissance-onward) rare celibate heroes, the fans really like the idea of him finding more adventures out there... Although there (although Jim would have had a love interest named Kate in a cancelled sequel to the film.film).
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* WinBackTheCrowd: Like ''WesternAnimation/AtlantisTheLostEmpire'' before it, it tries to draw in an adult crowd with its highly thematic sci-fi settings and story, along with fantastical effects and large amounts of action along the way. It received considerably higher praise than the aforementioned film, but not enough to secure success at the box office. History, however, has proven kinder to it and it is now a beloved CultClassic.
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* WinBackTheCrowd: Like ''WesternAnimation/AtlantisTheLostEmpire'' before it, it tries to draw in an adult crowd with its highly thematic sci-fi settings and story, along with fantastical effects and large amounts of action along the way. It received considerably higher praise than the aforementioned film, film but not enough to secure success at the box office. History, however, has proven kinder to it and it is now a beloved CultClassic.
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* SpiritualLicensee: This is as close as we'll ever come to a ''TabletopGame/{{Spelljammer}}'' movie. Or an ''[[Literature/TheEdgeChronicles Edge Chronicles]]'' movie, for that matter.
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* SpiritualLicensee: SpiritualAdaptation: This is as close as we'll ever come to a ''TabletopGame/{{Spelljammer}}'' movie. Or an ''[[Literature/TheEdgeChronicles Edge Chronicles]]'' movie, for that matter.
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* NoYay: There exists people who ship Jim/Silver romantically, which is considered this trope by many when their relationship in the film is that of a father/son substitute one.
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* NoYay: There exists people who ship Jim/Silver romantically, which is considered this trope by many others when their relationship in the film is that of a father/son substitute one.one (even disregarding that, Silver appears to be in his forties if not fifties, while Jim is 15, making him a minor).
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* FanficFuel: The fact that there exists a [[https://animatedviews.com/2014/buried-treasure-the-ill-fated-voyage-to-treasure-planet-2/ canon plot]] for the sequel that was never made, it certainly has some fans taking it and running with it. Fan works of Kate who would have been Jim's LoveInterest (a cute human-looking alien with lion-like features) aren't hard to find, while the most popular scenario, whether inspired by the abandoned sequel or not, is usually to have Jim and Silver reunite somehow.
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* FanficFuel: FanficFuel:
** The fact that there exists a [[https://animatedviews.com/2014/buried-treasure-the-ill-fated-voyage-to-treasure-planet-2/ canon plot]] for the sequel that was never made, it certainly has some fans taking it and running with it. Fan works of Kate who would have been Jim's LoveInterest (a cute human-looking alien with lion-like features) aren't hard to find, while the most popular scenario, whether inspired by the abandoned sequel or not, is usually to have Jim and Silver reunitesomehow.again.
** What if Jim had taken Silver up on his offer to join him at the end?
** The fact that there exists a [[https://animatedviews.com/2014/buried-treasure-the-ill-fated-voyage-to-treasure-planet-2/ canon plot]] for the sequel that was never made, it certainly has some fans taking it and running with it. Fan works of Kate who would have been Jim's LoveInterest (a cute human-looking alien with lion-like features) aren't hard to find, while the most popular scenario, whether inspired by the abandoned sequel or not, is usually to have Jim and Silver reunite
** What if Jim had taken Silver up on his offer to join him at the end?
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* NoYay: There exists people who ship Jim/Silver romantically, which is considered this trope by many when their canon relationship is that of a father/son substitute one.
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* SignatureScene: Silver's encouraging speech to Jim ("You got the makings of greatness in ya'") is often remembered by fans as the most heartwarming and iconic scene of the movie, and a go-to speech for many needing uplifting words in their own real lives.
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* SignatureScene: Silver's encouraging speech to Jim ("You got the makings of greatness in ya'") is often remembered by fans as the most heartwarming and iconic scene of the movie, and a go-to speech for many needing uplifting words in their own real lives. It's doubly heartwarming when director John Musker apparently based it on a real life speech he'd received as a young boy from his football coach that ended with both of them in tears.
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* SignatureScene: Silver's encouraging speech to Jim ("You got the makings of greatness in ya'") is often remembered by fans as the most heartwarming and iconic scene of the movie, and a go-to speech for many needing uplifting words in their own real lives.
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* FanficFuel: The fact that there exists a [[https://animatedviews.com/2014/buried-treasure-the-ill-fated-voyage-to-treasure-planet-2/ canon plot]] for the sequel that was never made, it certainly has some fans taking it and running with it. Fan works of Kate who would have been Jim's LoveInterest (a cute human-looking alien with lion-like features) aren't hard to find, while the most popular scenario, whether inspired by the abandoned sequel or not, is usually to have Jim and Silver reunite somehow.
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* NoYay: There exists people who ship Jim/Silver romantically, which is considered this trope by many when their canon relationship is that of a father/son one.
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* LauncherOfAThousandShips: Jim has been paired with every Disney girl ever (particularly [[WesternAnimation/TheLittleMermaid1989 Ariel]]), extending to non-Disney girls like [[WesternAnimation/TheSwanPrincess Odette]] and even anime girls like Anime/SailorMoon and Anime/PrincessTutu. Ironically he is a CelibateHero in the movie. He is also shipped a lot with Silver, and on the crossover slashy side, [[WesternAnimation/SinbadLegendOfTheSevenSeas Sinbad]], WesternAnimation/{{Aladdin}} or [[WesternAnimation/{{Anastasia}} Dimitri]] are popularly shipped with him. Let's just say for a film featuring one of Disney's (Renaissance-onward) rare celibate heroes, the fans really like the idea of him finding more adventures out there... Although Jim would have had a love interest named Kate in a cancelled sequel to the film.
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* LauncherOfAThousandShips: Jim has been paired with every Disney girl ever (particularly [[WesternAnimation/TheLittleMermaid1989 Ariel]]), Ariel]] and [[WesternAnimation/TheLittleMermaidIIReturnToTheSea Melody]]), extending to non-Disney girls like [[WesternAnimation/TheSwanPrincess Odette]] and even anime girls like Anime/SailorMoon and Anime/PrincessTutu. Ironically he is a CelibateHero in the movie. He is also shipped a lot with Silver, and on the crossover slashy side, [[WesternAnimation/SinbadLegendOfTheSevenSeas Sinbad]], WesternAnimation/{{Aladdin}} or [[WesternAnimation/{{Anastasia}} Dimitri]] are popularly shipped with him. Let's just say for a film featuring one of Disney's (Renaissance-onward) rare celibate heroes, the fans really like the idea of him finding more adventures out there... Although Jim would have had a love interest named Kate in a cancelled sequel to the film.
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-->[[spoiler:'''Jim''': Silver! You gave up--!]]
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-->[[spoiler:'''Jim''': Silver! You gave up--!]]
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[[spoiler: '''Silver''': Just a lifelong obsession, Jimbo. I'll get over it.]]
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* MemeticMutation: The animation frame of Jim turning to Morph. ''[[http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/232/a/4/jim_hawkins_motivational_10_by_23jk-d478gdq.jpg You know the one.]]''
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** The animation frame of Jim turning to Morph. ''[[http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/232/a/4/jim_hawkins_motivational_10_by_23jk-d478gdq.jpg You know the one.]]''
** The animation frame of Jim turning to Morph. ''[[http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/232/a/4/jim_hawkins_motivational_10_by_23jk-d478gdq.jpg You know the one.]]''
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* ShipsThatPassInTheNight: [[JustForPun Nautical puns aside]], there's a substantial portion of fans that ship Captain Amelia with [[LesYay Jim's mom.]] No, we're not quite sure how it started either, [[GirlOnGirlIsHot aside from]] [[YuriFan the obvious reasons]].
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* ShipsThatPassInTheNight: [[JustForPun Nautical puns aside]], there's a substantial portion of fans that ship Captain Amelia with [[LesYay Jim's mom.]] mom]]. No, we're not quite sure how it started either, [[GirlOnGirlIsHot aside from]] [[YuriFan the obvious reasons]].
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* ShipsThatPassInTheNight: [[JustForPun Nautical puns aside]], there's a substantial portion of fans that ship Captain Amelia with [[LesYay Jim's mom.]] No, we're not quite sure how it started either, aside from [[YuriFan the obvious.]]
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* ShipsThatPassInTheNight: [[JustForPun Nautical puns aside]], there's a substantial portion of fans that ship Captain Amelia with [[LesYay Jim's mom.]] No, we're not quite sure how it started either, [[GirlOnGirlIsHot aside from from]] [[YuriFan the obvious.]] obvious reasons]].
