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* TooBleakStoppedCaring: Whereas ''Series/DoctorWho'' and ''Series/TheSarahJaneAdventures'' had hopeful and optimistic outlooks on life and the universe, this show offers a darker and more cynical worldview with copious amounts of sleaze, violence, sex, gore and existential angst, populated by deeply flawed and borderline unlikable characters (the main character formerly a campy and fun hero).

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* TooBleakStoppedCaring: Whereas ''Series/DoctorWho'' and ''Series/TheSarahJaneAdventures'' had hopeful and optimistic outlooks on life and the universe, this show offers a darker and more cynical worldview with copious amounts of sleaze, violence, sex, gore and existential angst, populated by deeply flawed and borderline unlikable characters (the main character formerly a campy and fun hero).
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* HilariousInHindsight: Creator/TheBBC wouldn't allow the Doctor to appear in the series because it was geared towards adults. Flashforward a decade and the Doctor appears in the first episode of ''Series/Class2016'', which had just as much, if not more, adult content.

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* FauxSymbolism: "[[{{Recap/TorchwoodS1E13EndOfDays}} End of Days]]" has this in spades. Abaddon[[note]]A.K.A. TheDevil[[/note]] is unleashed by Owen, Gwen, Ianto and Tosh opening the rift, going against Jack’s explicit orders not to. Jack ends up performing a HeroicSacrifice to stop Abaddon, even dying in a CrucifiedHeroShot. He remains dead for several days, then rises and immediately forgives those who betrayed him.

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* FauxSymbolism: "[[{{Recap/TorchwoodS1E13EndOfDays}} "[[Recap/TorchwoodS1E13EndOfDays End of Days]]" has this in spades. Abaddon[[note]]A.K.A. TheDevil[[/note]] is unleashed by Owen, Gwen, Ianto and Tosh opening the rift, going against Jack’s explicit orders not to. Jack ends up performing a HeroicSacrifice to stop Abaddon, even dying in a CrucifiedHeroShot. He remains dead for several days, then rises and immediately forgives those who betrayed him.



* {{Moe}}: Tosh is a cute and shy [[{{Adorkable}} dork]] who has [[AllLoveIsUnrequited unrequited love]] for her coworker Owen, who is unfortunately both a {{Jerkass}} toward her and also oblivious to her feelings [[SleepsWithEveryoneButYou while having interest in nearly everyone else.]] Between that, dealing with IntelligenceEqualsIsolation, and [[spoiler:her tragic death]] in Season 2, she is widely considered one of the show’s biggest {{Woobie}}s and a character that most fans like to shower with love and sympathy. The HotLibrarian {{Meganekko}} look that she sports helps a lot too.

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* {{Moe}}: Tosh is a cute and shy [[{{Adorkable}} dork]] dork who has [[AllLoveIsUnrequited unrequited love]] for her coworker Owen, who is unfortunately both a {{Jerkass}} toward her and also oblivious to her feelings [[SleepsWithEveryoneButYou while having interest in nearly everyone else.]] Between that, dealing with IntelligenceEqualsIsolation, and [[spoiler:her tragic death]] in Season 2, she is widely considered one of the show’s biggest {{Woobie}}s and a character that most fans like to shower with love and sympathy. The HotLibrarian {{Meganekko}} look that she sports helps a lot too.



* {{Narm}}: "[[{{Recap/TorchwoodS1E4Cyberwoman}} Cyberwoman]]". You would expect the producers would use their newfound ability to show gore to really play up the BodyHorror of the Cybermen, and show what it's like to have a lover's body be stripped of its organic material and violently replaced with machinery. Instead, we got an actress in a cyber-thong and bendy plastic top that doesn't even slightly look like it's part of her skin.

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* {{Narm}}: "[[{{Recap/TorchwoodS1E4Cyberwoman}} "[[Recap/TorchwoodS1E4Cyberwoman Cyberwoman]]". You would expect the producers would use their newfound ability to show gore to really play up the BodyHorror of the Cybermen, and show what it's like to have a lover's body be stripped of its organic material and violently replaced with machinery. Instead, we got an actress in a cyber-thong and bendy plastic top that doesn't even slightly look like it's part of her skin.



** Many fans viewed the extremely negative depiction of UNIT in "[[{{Recap/TorchwoodS2E12Fragments}} Fragments]]" as an example of this trope.

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** Many fans viewed the extremely negative depiction of UNIT in "[[{{Recap/TorchwoodS2E12Fragments}} "[[Recap/TorchwoodS2E12Fragments Fragments]]" as an example of this trope.



* TheScrappy: Owen, an apparent attempt to create a [[TheCharmer Jack-the-Lad]] type character that failed dismally. In the story world he's supposed to be some kind of [[TheCasanova love god]], but the actor playing him is strangely froglike and charm-free. It doesn't help that when we first see him he's getting women to sleep with him by using a special spray he nicked from Torchwood supplies that made him irresistible (which more than a few fans saw as essentially Owen raping unwilling sexual partners). However, in the second series, the writers acknowledged all of this and early on took constant digs at him. [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap His popularity increased]] with his character arc through the second season, only for [[spoiler:him to be [[AlasPoorScrappy killed off]] in a heartbreaking final episode]].

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* TheScrappy: Owen, an apparent attempt to create a [[TheCharmer Jack-the-Lad]] type character that failed dismally. In the story world he's supposed to be some kind of [[TheCasanova love god]], but the actor playing him Creator/BurnGorman is strangely froglike and charm-free. It doesn't help that when we first see him he's getting women to sleep with him by using a special spray he nicked from Torchwood supplies that made him irresistible (which more than a few fans saw as essentially Owen raping unwilling sexual partners). However, in the second series, the writers acknowledged all of this and early on took constant digs at him. [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap His popularity increased]] increased with his character arc through the second season, only for [[spoiler:him to be [[AlasPoorScrappy killed off]] off in a heartbreaking final episode]].



** The 'cash cow' from "[[{{Recap/TorchwoodS2E4Meat}} Meat]]". Also the main alien from spin-off novel [[NothingIsScarier 'Into The Silence']]. The latter also counts as a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds, and the way in which it finds refuge is oddly SugarWiki/{{heart|warming moments}}[[TearJerker warming]].
** Practically all the cast do this at some point.

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** The 'cash cow' from "[[{{Recap/TorchwoodS2E4Meat}} "[[Recap/TorchwoodS2E4Meat Meat]]". Also the main alien from spin-off novel [[NothingIsScarier 'Into The Silence']].''Into the Silence'']]. The latter also counts as a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds, and the way in which it finds refuge is oddly SugarWiki/{{heart|warming moments}}[[TearJerker warming]].
** Practically all the cast do this at some point.point.
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* {{Moe}}: Tosh is a cute and shy [[{{Adorkable}} dork]] who has [[AllLoveIsUnrequited unrequited love]] for her coworker Owen, who is unfortunately both a {{Jerkass}} toward her and also oblivious to her feelings [[SleepsWithEveryoneButYou while having interest in nearly everyone else.]] Between that, dealing with IntelligenceEqualsIsolation, and [[spoiler:her tragic death]] in Season 2, she is widely considered one of the show’s biggest {{Woobie}}s and a character that most fans like to shower with love and sympathy.

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* {{Moe}}: Tosh is a cute and shy [[{{Adorkable}} dork]] who has [[AllLoveIsUnrequited unrequited love]] for her coworker Owen, who is unfortunately both a {{Jerkass}} toward her and also oblivious to her feelings [[SleepsWithEveryoneButYou while having interest in nearly everyone else.]] Between that, dealing with IntelligenceEqualsIsolation, and [[spoiler:her tragic death]] in Season 2, she is widely considered one of the show’s biggest {{Woobie}}s and a character that most fans like to shower with love and sympathy. The HotLibrarian {{Meganekko}} look that she sports helps a lot too.
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* {{Moe}}: Tosh is a cute and shy [[{{Adorkable}} dork]] who has [[AllLoveIsUnrequited unrequited love]] for her coworker Owen, who is unfortunately both a {{Jerkass}} toward her and also oblivious to her feelings [[SleepsWithEveryoneButYou while having interest in nearly everyone else.]] Between that, dealing with IntelligenceEqualsIsolation, and [[spoiler:her tragic death]] in Season 2, she is widely considered one of the show’s biggest {{Woobie}}s and a character that most fans like to shower with love and sympathy.


* TheScrappy: Owen, an apparent attempt to create a [[TheCharmer Jack-the-Lad]] type character that failed dismally. In the story world he's supposed to be some kind of [[TheCasanova love god]], but the actor playing him is strangely froglike and charm-free. It doesn't help that when we first see him he's getting women to sleep with him by using a special spray he nicked from Torchwood supplies that made him irresistible, which more than a few fans saw as essentially Owen raping unwilling sexual partners. In all likelihood, neither Owen nor the writers saw this as rape at the time due to the science-fiction scenario and the fact that the spray makes people ''want'' to have sex with whoever's wearing it. It was presumably intended to just be a very effective cologne but given its effects, it's till basically a sci-fi date rape drug and [[RealitySubtext rapists in real life often convince themselves that they're not really rapists]]. However, in the second series, the writers seemed to realise all of this and early on took constant digs at him. [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap His popularity increased]] with his character arc through the second season, only for [[spoiler:him to be [[AlasPoorScrappy killed off]] in a heartbreaking final episode]].

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* TheScrappy: Owen, an apparent attempt to create a [[TheCharmer Jack-the-Lad]] type character that failed dismally. In the story world he's supposed to be some kind of [[TheCasanova love god]], but the actor playing him is strangely froglike and charm-free. It doesn't help that when we first see him he's getting women to sleep with him by using a special spray he nicked from Torchwood supplies that made him irresistible, which irresistible (which more than a few fans saw as essentially Owen raping unwilling sexual partners. In all likelihood, neither Owen nor the writers saw this as rape at the time due to the science-fiction scenario and the fact that the spray makes people ''want'' to have sex with whoever's wearing it. It was presumably intended to just be a very effective cologne but given its effects, it's till basically a sci-fi date rape drug and [[RealitySubtext rapists in real life often convince themselves that they're not really rapists]]. partners). However, in the second series, the writers seemed to realise acknowledged all of this and early on took constant digs at him. [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap His popularity increased]] with his character arc through the second season, only for [[spoiler:him to be [[AlasPoorScrappy killed off]] in a heartbreaking final episode]].



* UncertainAudience: One of the problems about the first season seems to have been that the writers and directors were all over the shop about whether they were doing a DenserAndWackier HotterAndSexier show full of fanboy RuleOfCool moments and fangirl feels, or a grey rain-soaked ultra-depressing cop show with barely-relevant SF {{MacGuffin}}s. This led to some weird juxtapositions between episodes and even more disturbing results when the two seemed to overlap. One critic when it first came out said that it feels like a kid's show desperately trying to be an adult show by including as much sex as possible, adding that it's main demographic would be thirteen-year-olds desperately trying to be grown up.

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* UncertainAudience: One of the problems about the first season seems to have been that the writers and directors were all over the shop about whether they were doing a DenserAndWackier HotterAndSexier show full of fanboy RuleOfCool moments and fangirl feels, or a grey rain-soaked ultra-depressing cop show with barely-relevant SF {{MacGuffin}}s. This led to some weird juxtapositions between episodes and even more disturbing results when the two seemed to overlap. One critic when it first came out said that it feels like a kid's show desperately trying to be an adult show by including as much sex as possible, adding that it's main demographic would be thirteen-year-olds desperately trying to be grown up.


** Torchwood collectively. Practically every TV episode or Doctor Who Expanded Universe work that discusses pre-"Army of Ghosts" / "Doomsday" Torchwood makes it clear that they were outright evil, being dedicated to robbing and murdering innocent aliens in order to get weapons to kill non-British people in the service of extreme nationalism. By contrast, fanfic and commentary treats them like, at worst, ruthless people doing what they had to do to save humanity, and more often just a fun-loving hero team. Just because it's implied that some of them might have been LGBT at a time when British society as a whole was violently homophobic.

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** Torchwood collectively. Practically every TV episode or Doctor Who Expanded Universe work that discusses pre-"Army of Ghosts" / "Doomsday" Torchwood makes it clear that they were outright evil, being dedicated to robbing and murdering innocent aliens in order to get weapons to kill non-British people in the service of extreme imperialistic and racist British nationalism. By contrast, fanfic and commentary treats them like, at worst, ruthless people doing what they had to do to save humanity, and more often just a fun-loving hero team. Just because it's implied that some of them might have been LGBT at a time when British society as a whole was violently homophobic.
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Torchwood are never shown to be racist and not everyone would say that imperialism and nationalism are necessarily evil.


** Torchwood collectively. Practically every TV episode or Doctor Who Expanded Universe work that discusses pre-"Army of Ghosts" / "Doomsday" Torchwood makes it clear that they were outright evil, being dedicated to robbing and murdering innocent aliens in order to get weapons to kill non-British people in the service of extreme imperialistic and racist British nationalism. By contrast, fanfic and commentary treats them like, at worst, ruthless people doing what they had to do to save humanity, and more often just a fun-loving hero team. Just because it's implied that some of them might have been LGBT at a time when British society as a whole was violently homophobic.

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** Torchwood collectively. Practically every TV episode or Doctor Who Expanded Universe work that discusses pre-"Army of Ghosts" / "Doomsday" Torchwood makes it clear that they were outright evil, being dedicated to robbing and murdering innocent aliens in order to get weapons to kill non-British people in the service of extreme imperialistic and racist British nationalism. By contrast, fanfic and commentary treats them like, at worst, ruthless people doing what they had to do to save humanity, and more often just a fun-loving hero team. Just because it's implied that some of them might have been LGBT at a time when British society as a whole was violently homophobic.
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* TheScrappy: Owen, an apparent attempt to create a [[TheCharmer Jack-the-Lad]] type character that failed dismally. In the story world he's supposed to be some kind of [[TheCasanova love god]], but the actor playing him is strangely froglike and charm-free. It doesn't help that when we first see him he's getting women to sleep with him by using a special spray he nicked from Torchwood supplies that made him irresistible (which more than a few fans saw as essentially Owen raping unwilling sexual partners). However, in the second series, the writers acknowledged all of this and early on took constant digs at him. [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap His popularity increased]] with his character arc through the second season, only for [[spoiler:him to be [[AlasPoorScrappy killed off]] in a heartbreaking final episode]].

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* TheScrappy: Owen, an apparent attempt to create a [[TheCharmer Jack-the-Lad]] type character that failed dismally. In the story world he's supposed to be some kind of [[TheCasanova love god]], but the actor playing him is strangely froglike and charm-free. It doesn't help that when we first see him he's getting women to sleep with him by using a special spray he nicked from Torchwood supplies that made him irresistible (which irresistible, which more than a few fans saw as essentially Owen raping unwilling sexual partners). partners. In all likelihood, neither Owen nor the writers saw this as rape at the time due to the science-fiction scenario and the fact that the spray makes people ''want'' to have sex with whoever's wearing it. It was presumably intended to just be a very effective cologne but given its effects, it's till basically a sci-fi date rape drug and [[RealitySubtext rapists in real life often convince themselves that they're not really rapists]]. However, in the second series, the writers acknowledged seemed to realise all of this and early on took constant digs at him. [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap His popularity increased]] with his character arc through the second season, only for [[spoiler:him to be [[AlasPoorScrappy killed off]] in a heartbreaking final episode]].



* UncertainAudience: One of the problems about the first season seems to have been that the writers and directors were all over the shop about whether they were doing a DenserAndWackier HotterAndSexier show full of fanboy RuleOfCool moments and fangirl feels, or a grey rain-soaked ultra-depressing cop show with barely-relevant SF {{MacGuffin}}s. This led to some weird juxtapositions between episodes and even more disturbing results when the two seemed to overlap.

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* UncertainAudience: One of the problems about the first season seems to have been that the writers and directors were all over the shop about whether they were doing a DenserAndWackier HotterAndSexier show full of fanboy RuleOfCool moments and fangirl feels, or a grey rain-soaked ultra-depressing cop show with barely-relevant SF {{MacGuffin}}s. This led to some weird juxtapositions between episodes and even more disturbing results when the two seemed to overlap. One critic when it first came out said that it feels like a kid's show desperately trying to be an adult show by including as much sex as possible, adding that it's main demographic would be thirteen-year-olds desperately trying to be grown up.
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* {{Adorkable}}: Ianto may [[Recap/TorchwoodS1E1EverythingChanges look good in a suit]], but he also looks adorable and initially very out of his depth striding around the countryside in a raincoat and jeans. If [[Recap/TorchwoodS1E4Cyberwoman Cyberwoman]] established that Ianto was actually a character of some weight in the show, "Countrycide" establishes him as a character we actually ''like.''
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Gwen has a bad case of this trope in Series 1, when she decides that the only way to cope with all the new and frightening things she's discovering about the universe is to cheat on her boyfriend with the office JerkAss, confessing to said boyfriend to assuage her guilt, and drug said boyfriend so he'd have no memory of the event and she could feel better without facing the consequences. Her boyfriend even calls her a "selfish bitch" to her face for the sheer cruelty and selfishness she exhibits while drugging him.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Gwen has a bad case of this trope in Series 1, when she decides that the only way to cope with all the new and frightening things she's discovering about the universe is to cheat on her boyfriend with the office JerkAss, confessing to said boyfriend to assuage her guilt, and drug said boyfriend so he'd have no memory of the event and she could feel better without facing the consequences. Her boyfriend even calls her a "selfish bitch" to her face for the sheer cruelty and selfishness she exhibits while drugging him. Despite this, she's shown as TheWoobie in the scenes after Rhys' reaction.

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* GeniusBonus: The faeries quote W.B. Yeats' poem ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stolen_Child The Stolen Child]]'' in their entreaties to get [[spoiler: Jasmine]] to go with them, [[spoiler: as well as at the end of the episode.]]

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* GeniusBonus: The In "[[Recap/TorchwoodS1E5SmallWorlds Small Worlds]]", the faeries quote W.B. Yeats' poem ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stolen_Child The Stolen Child]]'' in their entreaties to get [[spoiler: Jasmine]] to go with them, [[spoiler: as well as at the end of the episode.]]



* IronWoobie: Jack.

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* IronWoobie: Jack.GrowingTheBeard: Many people say this of the second season, compared to the first. Whether or not this made it great, good, or simply less painful to watch [[BrokenBase depends on who you ask.]] The tone certainly became much more consistent and less {{Wangst}}y, and the main characters more competent...and then [[spoiler:half the cast was killed off one by one.]]
* IronWoobie:
** Ianto Jones, who's been through just about everything. One of only 27 employees of Torchwood One [[Recap/DoctorWhoS28E13Doomsday to survive Canary Wharf]], he saw his girlfriend turned into a killer cyborg that eventually had to be shot in front of him, he was half beaten to death by cannibals, and [[MindRape mind raped]] by an alien into thinking he's a murderer. And he does most of it with the wry efficiency of someone who was effectively hired to clean up after the team.
** Jack is probably the biggest Iron Woobie of the series. Dear god, he's been buried alive, had all the life sucked out of him, was buried in concrete, and in ''Series/TorchwoodMiracleDay'' was murdered over and over again in a butcher shop. He's also died over two thousand times and spent a year being tortured to death over and over. Oh, and he was also [[spoiler: forced to kill his own grandson in order to save the rest of Earth's children the day after his boyfriend died.]] How Jack isn't a babbling mess by now is kind of a mystery.
** Then there's Tosh. She was forced to [[spoiler: commit treason because her mother was being held hostage. Then, instead of getting rescued, UNIT sentences her to isolation]] until Jack shows up and recruits her for Torchwood. The man she has a crush on is a jerk who won't give her the time of day, but at least she has regular contact with him. Another interest was a soldier suffering from PSTD who had to go back to a time that didn't understand the disorder. Then there was her other love interest Mary who was revealed to [[spoiler: have been using her the entire time.]] When Tosh finally does tell Owen she loves him, [[spoiler: she's dying from a gunshot wound and it turns out he didn't even hear it.]] That poor woman never got a break.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Gwen a bad case of this trope in Series 1, when she decides that the only way to cope with all the new and frightening things she's discovering about the universe is to cheat on her boyfriend with the office JerkAss, confessing to said boyfriend to assuage her guilt, and drug said boyfriend so he'd have no memory of the event and she could feel better without facing the consequences. Her boyfriend even calls her a "selfish bitch" to her face for the sheer cruelty and selfishness she exhibits while drugging him.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Gwen has a bad case of this trope in Series 1, when she decides that the only way to cope with all the new and frightening things she's discovering about the universe is to cheat on her boyfriend with the office JerkAss, confessing to said boyfriend to assuage her guilt, and drug said boyfriend so he'd have no memory of the event and she could feel better without facing the consequences. Her boyfriend even calls her a "selfish bitch" to her face for the sheer cruelty and selfishness she exhibits while drugging him.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Gwen a bad case of this trope in Series 1, when she decides that the only way to cope with all the new and frightening things she's discovering about the universe is to cheat on her boyfriend with the office JerkAss, confessing to said boyfriend to assuage her guilt, and drug said boyfriend so he'd have no memory of the event and she could feel better without facing the consequences. Her boyfriend even calls her a "selfish bitch" to her face for the sheer cruelty and selfishness she exhibits while drugging him.

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** Suzie's second death ends on an ominous note with Ianto reminding Jack that gloves usually come in pairs. This was most likely meant to imply that Suzie could eventually come back if another character out there stole the glove and planned to use it to revive her. Considering her second appearance depended entirely on a MyDeathIsJustTheBeginning plan, it was reasonable to think she could pull it off again. However, she never came back and then [[KilledOffForReal the lab got destroyed with her frozen body still inside of it]].
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** Suzie's second death ends on an ominous note with Ianto reminding Jack that gloves usually come in pairs. This was most likely meant to imply that Suzie could eventually come back if another character out there stole the glove and planned to use it to revive her. Considering her second appearance depended entirely on a MyDeathIsJustTheBeginning plan, it was reasonable to think she could pull it off again. However, she never came back and then [[KilledOffForReal the lab got destroyed with her frozen body still inside of it]].
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* DieForOurShip: Gwen is perceived as getting in the way of Jack/Ianto, despite the fact that she married someone else.

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** Torchwood collectively. Practically every TV episode or Doctor Who Expanded Universe work that discusses pre-"Army of Ghosts"/"Doomsday" Torchwood makes it clear that they were outright evil, being dedicated to robbing and murdering innocent aliens in order to get weapons to kill non-British people in the service of extreme imperialistic and racist British nationalism. By contrast, fanfic and commentary treats them like, at worst, ruthless people doing what they had to do to save humanity, and more often just a fun-loving hero team. Just because it's implied that some of them might have been LGBT at a time when British society as a whole was violently homophobic.

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** Torchwood collectively. Practically every TV episode or Doctor Who Expanded Universe work that discusses pre-"Army of Ghosts"/"Doomsday" Ghosts" / "Doomsday" Torchwood makes it clear that they were outright evil, being dedicated to robbing and murdering innocent aliens in order to get weapons to kill non-British people in the service of extreme imperialistic and racist British nationalism. By contrast, fanfic and commentary treats them like, at worst, ruthless people doing what they had to do to save humanity, and more often just a fun-loving hero team. Just because it's implied that some of them might have been LGBT at a time when British society as a whole was violently homophobic.



* RonTheDeathEater: Many fans viewed the extremely negative depiction of UNIT in "[[{{Recap/TorchwoodS2E12Fragments}} Fragments]]" as an example of this trope.

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* DracoInLeatherPants:
** John Hart who manipulates everyone for his own gain, brings Jack's brother Gray to have his revenge, and sets off a chain of events that kills Owen and Tosh. Yet the fandom adores him and often claims his arguable love for Jack as a redeeming quality. Possibly a case of EvilIsSexy as well.
** Torchwood collectively. Practically every TV episode or Doctor Who Expanded Universe work that discusses pre-"Army of Ghosts"/"Doomsday" Torchwood makes it clear that they were outright evil, being dedicated to robbing and murdering innocent aliens in order to get weapons to kill non-British people in the service of extreme imperialistic and racist British nationalism. By contrast, fanfic and commentary treats them like, at worst, ruthless people doing what they had to do to save humanity, and more often just a fun-loving hero team. Just because it's implied that some of them might have been LGBT at a time when British society as a whole was violently homophobic.
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** The 'cash cow' from "[[{{Recap/TorchwoodS2E4Meat}} Meat]]". Also the main alien from spin-off novel [[NothingIsScarier 'Into The Silence']]. The latter also counts as a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds, and the way in which it finds refuge is oddly {{heart|warming moments}}[[TearJerker warming]].

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** The 'cash cow' from "[[{{Recap/TorchwoodS2E4Meat}} Meat]]". Also the main alien from spin-off novel [[NothingIsScarier 'Into The Silence']]. The latter also counts as a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds, and the way in which it finds refuge is oddly {{heart|warming SugarWiki/{{heart|warming moments}}[[TearJerker warming]].

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* GeniusBonus: The faeries quote W.B. Yeats' poem ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stolen_Child The Stolen Child]]'' in their entreaties to get Jasmine to go with them.
-->''"Come away, O human child! Come away!"''

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* GeniusBonus: The faeries quote W.B. Yeats' poem ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stolen_Child The Stolen Child]]'' in their entreaties to get Jasmine [[spoiler: Jasmine]] to go with them.
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-->''To the waters and the wild''
-->''With a faery, hand in hand.''
-->''For the world's more full of weeping than you can understand.''
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* GeniusBonus: The faeries quote W.B. Yeats' ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stolen_Child The Stolen Child]]'' in their entreaties to get Jasmine to go with them.

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* GeniusBonus: The faeries quote W.B. Yeats' poem ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stolen_Child The Stolen Child]]'' in their entreaties to get Jasmine to go with them.
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* GeniusBonus: The faeries quote W.B. Yeats' ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stolen_Child The Stolen Child]]'' in their entreaties to get Jasmine to go with them.
-->''"Come away, O human child! Come away!"''
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* MagnificentBastard: John Hart. Jack has his moments, as well.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: [[EvilFormerFriend Suzie Costello]] and [[LoveableRogue Captain John Hart]] are both incredibly popular antagonists despite each of them only appearing in two episodes, Suzie's both [[StarterVillain at the beginning of Season 1]] and John Hart's [[TheDragon both at the end of Season 2]].


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** Suzie's second death ends on an ominous note with Ianto reminding Jack that gloves usually come in pairs. This was most likely meant to imply that Suzie could eventually come back if another character out there stole the glove and planned to use it to revive her. Considering her second appearance depended entirely on a MyDeathIsJustTheBeginning plan, it was reasonable to think she could pull it off again. However, she never came back and then [[KilledOffForReal the lab got destroyed with her frozen body still inside of it]].

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* FauxSymbolism: ''End of Days'' has this in spades. Abaddon[[note]]A.K.A. TheDevil[[/note]] is unleashed by Owen, Gwen, Ianto and Tosh opening the rift, going against Jack’s explicit orders not to. Jack ends up performing a HeroicSacrifice to stop Abaddon, even dying in a CrucifiedHeroShot. He remains dead for several days, then rises and immediately forgives those who betrayed him.
* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Ianto's offhand comment that his dad was a master tailor in "Something Borrowed" leaves a different taste in your mouth after ''Children of Earth''.

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* FauxSymbolism: ''End "[[{{Recap/TorchwoodS1E13EndOfDays}} End of Days'' Days]]" has this in spades. Abaddon[[note]]A.K.A. TheDevil[[/note]] is unleashed by Owen, Gwen, Ianto and Tosh opening the rift, going against Jack’s explicit orders not to. Jack ends up performing a HeroicSacrifice to stop Abaddon, even dying in a CrucifiedHeroShot. He remains dead for several days, then rises and immediately forgives those who betrayed him.
* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Ianto's offhand comment that his dad was a master tailor in "Something Borrowed" "[[{{Recap/TorchwoodS2E9SomethingBorrowed}} Something Borrowed]]" leaves a different taste in your mouth after ''Children of Earth''.



*** Though the Woobie elements have been hinted at since "Ghost Machine", where Owen is deeply affected by witnessing a young woman's brutal rape and murder from years ago. The machine ''did'' cause him to feel her emotions, but that doesn't change that Owen was deeply affected to the point of nearly killing her (now old and mentally unsound) murderer - yet when the old man was dying, Owen's instincts as a doctor kick in and he tries to unsuccessfully save his life.

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*** Though the Woobie elements have been hinted at since "Ghost Machine", "[[{{Recap/TorchwoodS1E3GhostMachine}} Ghost Machine]]", where Owen is deeply affected by witnessing a young woman's brutal rape and murder from years ago. The machine ''did'' cause him to feel her emotions, but that doesn't change that Owen was deeply affected to the point of nearly killing her (now old and mentally unsound) murderer - yet when the old man was dying, Owen's instincts as a doctor kick in and he tries to unsuccessfully save his life.



* NeverLiveItDown: Owen using alien drugs to make a couple have sex with him, essentially ''raping'' them.



* {{Narm}}: "Cyberwoman". You would expect the producers would use their newfound ability to show gore to really play up the BodyHorror of the Cybermen, and show what it's like to have a lover's body be stripped of its organic material and violently replaced with machinery. Instead, we got an actress in a cyber-thong and bendy plastic top that doesn't even slightly look like it's part of her skin.

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* {{Narm}}: "Cyberwoman"."[[{{Recap/TorchwoodS1E4Cyberwoman}} Cyberwoman]]". You would expect the producers would use their newfound ability to show gore to really play up the BodyHorror of the Cybermen, and show what it's like to have a lover's body be stripped of its organic material and violently replaced with machinery. Instead, we got an actress in a cyber-thong and bendy plastic top that doesn't even slightly look like it's part of her skin.skin.
* NeverLiveItDown: Owen using alien drugs to make a couple have sex with him, essentially ''raping'' them.



* RonTheDeathEater: Many fans viewed the extremely negative depiction of UNIT in "Fragments" as an example of this trope.

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* RonTheDeathEater: Many fans viewed the extremely negative depiction of UNIT in "Fragments" "[[{{Recap/TorchwoodS2E12Fragments}} Fragments]]" as an example of this trope.



* TheScrappy:
** Owen, an apparent attempt to create a [[TheCharmer Jack-the-Lad]] type character that failed dismally. In the story world he's supposed to be some kind of [[TheCasanova love god]], but the actor playing him is strangely froglike and charm-free. It doesn't help that when we first see him he's getting women to sleep with him by using a special spray he nicked from Torchwood supplies that made him irresistible (which more than a few fans saw as essentially Owen raping unwilling sexual partners). However, in the second series, the writers acknowledged all of this and early on took constant digs at him. [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap His popularity increased]] with his character arc through the second season, only for [[spoiler:him to be [[AlasPoorScrappy killed off]] in a heartbreaking final episode]].

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TheScrappy: Owen, an apparent attempt to create a [[TheCharmer Jack-the-Lad]] type character that failed dismally. In the story world he's supposed to be some kind of [[TheCasanova love god]], but the actor playing him is strangely froglike and charm-free. It doesn't help that when we first see him he's getting women to sleep with him by using a special spray he nicked from Torchwood supplies that made him irresistible (which more than a few fans saw as essentially Owen raping unwilling sexual partners). However, in the second series, the writers acknowledged all of this and early on took constant digs at him. [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap His popularity increased]] with his character arc through the second season, only for [[spoiler:him to be [[AlasPoorScrappy killed off]] in a heartbreaking final episode]].



*** Big Finish seems in the process of explaining these in their ''Torchwood'' ranges and ''The Lives of Captain Jack''.

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*** Big Finish Creator/BigFinish seems in the process of explaining these in their ''Torchwood'' ranges and ''The Lives of Captain Jack''.



** The 'cash cow' from Meat. Also the main alien from spin-off novel [[NothingIsScarier 'Into The Silence']]. The latter also counts as a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds, and the way in which it finds refuge is oddly {{heart|warming moments}}[[TearJerker warming]].

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** The 'cash cow' from Meat."[[{{Recap/TorchwoodS2E4Meat}} Meat]]". Also the main alien from spin-off novel [[NothingIsScarier 'Into The Silence']]. The latter also counts as a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds, and the way in which it finds refuge is oddly {{heart|warming moments}}[[TearJerker warming]].

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Fans are divided on whether Gwen is TheScrappy or a decent, well-liked character.
* BrokenBase: Some fans ran into a few problems with this over [[BaseBreakingCharacter Gwen]] in the first two seasons. What really dug a divide between previously calm fans were the events of [[spoiler: ''Children of Earth'''s Day Four and Day Five]]. Be careful about any criticisms OR compliments you have about [[spoiler:Ianto's death or how it was handled]]. And what Jack did on Day Five [[spoiler:[[WouldHurtAChild to Steven]]]] is a HUGE hot button issue.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Fans are divided on whether Gwen is TheScrappy or a decent, well-liked character.
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** The usual motive is for DieForOurShip reasons, due to her mutual UST with Jack interfering with the [[DieForOurShip beloved]] [[OfficialCouple Jack/Ianto]] relationship.
** She is also EasilyForgiven for her misgivings. While some can't stand it, some others argue that pretty much the whole team is EasilyForgiven: Tosh brought an evil alien into the Hub itself, Owen [[spoiler: killed Jack before knowing he couldn't die]], Ianto had his [[spoiler: killer cyberwoman girlfriend in the basement]], and Gwen set loose a killer alien on her first day by trying to show off.
** The whole thing with Rhys at the end of Series 1, when she selfishly drugs her boyfriend to erase his memory of her cheating on him for the sake of her own catharsis while attempting to dodge any real consequences for it, is a sticking point to those who dislike Gwen, while there are some that see it as an understandable mistake.
* BrokenBase: Some As seen in the above trope, some fans ran into a few problems with this over [[BaseBreakingCharacter Gwen]] Gwen in the first two seasons. What really dug a divide between previously calm fans fans, however, were the events of [[spoiler: ''Children of Earth'''s Day Four and Day Five]]. Be careful about any criticisms OR compliments you have about [[spoiler:Ianto's death or how it was handled]]. And what Jack did on Day Five [[spoiler:[[WouldHurtAChild to Steven]]]] is a HUGE ''huge'' hot button issue.



** Gwen Cooper is probably the most polarizing character on the series usually for DieForOurShip reasons, due to her mutual UST with Jack interfering with the [[DieForOurShip beloved]] [[OfficialCouple Jack/Ianto]] relationship; she is also EasilyForgiven. In all fairness, pretty much the whole team is EasilyForgiven: Tosh brought an evil alien into the Hub itself, Owen [[spoiler: killed Jack before knowing he couldn't die]], Ianto had his [[spoiler: killer cyberwoman girlfriend in the basement]], and Gwen set loose a killer alien on her first day by trying to show off. [[DoubleStandard The double standards on how much everyone is easily forgiven make her Scrappy status baffling to some.]] Additionally, given that Gwen has an equal amount of fans who do like her, she qualifies much more easily as a BaseBreakingCharacter than [[TheScrappy the scrappy]]. Of course, the whole thing with Rhys at the end of the season 1 when she selfishly drugs her boyfriend to erase his memory of her cheating on him for the sake of her own catharsis while attempting to dodge any real consequences for it is a sticking point to those who dislike Gwen.
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** Gwen Cooper is probably the most [[LoveItOrHateIt polarizing character on the series]] usually for DieForOurShip reasons, due to her mutual UST with Jack interfering with the [[DieForOurShip beloved]] [[OfficialCouple Jack/Ianto]] relationship; she is also EasilyForgiven. In all fairness, pretty much the whole team is EasilyForgiven: Tosh brought an evil alien into the Hub itself, Owen [[spoiler: killed Jack before knowing he couldn't die]], Ianto had his [[spoiler: killer cyberwoman girlfriend in the basement]], and Gwen set loose a killer alien on her first day by trying to show off. [[DoubleStandard The double standards on how much everyone is easily forgiven make her Scrappy status baffling to some.]] Additionally, given that Gwen has an equal amount of fans who do like her, she qualifies much more easily as a BaseBreakingCharacter than [[TheScrappy the scrappy]]. Of course, the whole thing with Rhys at the end of the season 1 when she selfishly drugs her boyfriend to erase his memory of her cheating on him for the sake of her own catharsis while attempting to dodge any real consequences for it is a sticking point to those who dislike Gwen.

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** Gwen Cooper is probably the most [[LoveItOrHateIt polarizing character on the series]] series usually for DieForOurShip reasons, due to her mutual UST with Jack interfering with the [[DieForOurShip beloved]] [[OfficialCouple Jack/Ianto]] relationship; she is also EasilyForgiven. In all fairness, pretty much the whole team is EasilyForgiven: Tosh brought an evil alien into the Hub itself, Owen [[spoiler: killed Jack before knowing he couldn't die]], Ianto had his [[spoiler: killer cyberwoman girlfriend in the basement]], and Gwen set loose a killer alien on her first day by trying to show off. [[DoubleStandard The double standards on how much everyone is easily forgiven make her Scrappy status baffling to some.]] Additionally, given that Gwen has an equal amount of fans who do like her, she qualifies much more easily as a BaseBreakingCharacter than [[TheScrappy the scrappy]]. Of course, the whole thing with Rhys at the end of the season 1 when she selfishly drugs her boyfriend to erase his memory of her cheating on him for the sake of her own catharsis while attempting to dodge any real consequences for it is a sticking point to those who dislike Gwen.
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* NeverLiveItDown: Owen using alien drugs to make a couple have sex with him, essentially ''raping'' them.
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* {{Narm}}: "Cyberwoman". You would expect the producers would use their newfound ability to show gore to really play up the BodyHorror of the Cybermen, and show what it's like to have a lover's body be stripped of its organic material and violently replaced with machinery. Instead, we got an actress in a cyber-thong and bendy plastic top that doesn't even slightly look like it's part of her skin.
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*** Big Finish seems in the process of explaining these in their ''Torchwood'' ranges and ''The Lives of Captain Jack''.

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