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** “Saturday Night” by Bay City Rollers, played during the scene when Luther, Allison, Diego, and Klaus run down the bowling lanes to escape the Commission hitmen is insanely well shot.
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** "Run Boy Run" by Music/Woodkid in Number 5's flashback scene in episode 2 is pretty damn cool.
** Music/PalomaFaith 's beautiful cover of "Never Tear Us Apart", in episode 2's last scene makes the scene even more heartbreaking.
** Music/PalomaFaith 's beautiful cover of "Never Tear Us Apart", in episode 2's last scene makes the scene even more heartbreaking.
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** [[Spoiler: After she embraces her White Violin persona, Vanya revisits painful memories of being rejected by her siblings as she destroys each of the bedrooms and the whole house. She truly believed her siblings hated her whole life and the revelation that Sir Reginald hid her powers from her and had ostracized didn’t help.]]
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** [[Spoiler: The ending, where Five gets the idea to time travel with his siblings and tells them to take Vanya with them instead of leaving her to die. They all very clearly love her, despite what she’s done, and plan on helping her rehabilitate in order to save the world.]]
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** [[Spoiler: The [[spoiler:The ending, where Five gets the idea to time travel with his siblings and tells them to take Vanya with them instead of leaving her to die. They all very clearly love her, despite what she’s done, and plan on helping her rehabilitate in order to save the world.]]
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** During the final battle, [[spoiler: Klaus unlocks his ability to channel Ben and his powers to take down the Commission hitmen and the siblings are all pleasantly shocked at the sight of their dead brother, who’s been by their side this whole time. Later on, when getting ready to time travel, Five asks Klaus if Ben is ready to come with them. And Ben is even seen in his young teen form alongside everyone else during the time traveling sequence. No matter where they end up, it’ll always be the seven of them together.]]
** [[Spoiler: The ending, where Five gets the idea to time travel with his siblings and tells them to take Vanya with them instead of leaving her to die. They all very clearly love her, despite what she’s done, and plan on helping her rehabilitate in order to save the world.]]
** [[Spoiler: The ending, where Five gets the idea to time travel with his siblings and tells them to take Vanya with them instead of leaving her to die. They all very clearly love her, despite what she’s done, and plan on helping her rehabilitate in order to save the world.]]
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** Vanya confronting [[spoiler:and murdering Pogo after he tells her he knew about her powers all along. Pogo was basically a father figure to the siblings and Vanya, and he had good intentions but Vanya, already angered and out for blood, wasn’t about to listen to reasoning.]]
** Diego desperately calling out and attempting to [[Spoiler:go back inside to save Grace from being taken down with the Academy. As he’s being pulled away by Klaus, all he can do is watch the mother he just got back wave sadly from the window as she’s about to die again.]]
** Vanya confronting [[spoiler:and murdering Pogo after he tells her he knew about her powers all along. Pogo was basically a father figure to the siblings and Vanya, and he had good intentions but Vanya, already angered and out for blood, wasn’t about to listen to reasoning.]]
** Diego desperately calling out and attempting to [[Spoiler:go back inside to save Grace from being taken down with the Academy. As he’s being pulled away by Klaus, all he can do is watch the mother he just got back wave sadly from the window as she’s about to die again.]]
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** After all the strife and arguments the siblings have been through, it's nice to see (most of them) band together when [[spoiler:fighting Cha-Cha and Hazel during the briefcase exchange]].
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* SpecialEffectsFailure: Luther's rubber muscles visibly crinkle around his neck in a few shots. When people paw at his muscles, they're obviously softer than actual muscle would be. Also, when Allison clutches at his sleeve outside of Vanya's cell, her hands sink into the sleeve, revealing that it's primarily empty, and it makes the line of the shoulderpad visible.
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* TheWoobie: All of the kids from the Academy to varying degrees due to Hargreaves harsh abuse and their messed up adult lives. Special mention goes to Vanya, Five, and Klaus.
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%%* CompleteMonster: InUniverse, even. Reginald Hargreeves is viewed as this by most of the siblings, Diego especially. The fact that he put them through the training from hell to make them superheroes, emotionally neglected them, brainwashed Vanya into forgetting her powers, along with locking her in a tiny room and Klaus in a ''crypt'' as children, puts him firmly in this category.
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%%Do not add Broken Base or Base Breaker until at least 6 months after the debates started.
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Most of the siblings get this in some form or another, but Luther gets it the worst. While plenty view him as TheScrappy, there are others who don't and argue that his upbringing was just as abusive as the rest of the Academy's and justifies much of his behavior.
* CompleteMonster: InUniverse, even. Reginald Hargreeves is viewed as this by most of the siblings, Diego especially. The fact that he put them through the training from hell to make them superheroes, emotionally neglected them, brainwashed Vanya into forgetting her powers, along with locking her in a tiny room and Klaus in a ''crypt'' as children, puts him firmly in this category.
* CompleteMonster: InUniverse, even. Reginald Hargreeves is viewed as this by most of the siblings, Diego especially. The fact that he put them through the training from hell to make them superheroes, emotionally neglected them, brainwashed Vanya into forgetting her powers, along with locking her in a tiny room and Klaus in a ''crypt'' as children, puts him firmly in this category.
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* RomanticPlotTumor: The relationship between Allison and Luther is rather disliked due to the NotBloodSiblings aspect and is often regarded as the weakest part of the series itself.
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* HeReallyCanAct: Most of the cast get their moments but special attention goes to Jordan Claire Robbins for her creepy portrayal of Grace.
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* DracoInLeatherPants: Cha-Cha and Hazel, despite being ruthless assassins who kidnap and torture Klaus and kill Detective Patch, have a fairly sizable fanbase. The Handler does, as well.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: ''Klaus''. He's the most well-liked out of the siblings, primarily due to his attitude during the series, the trauma he deals with and how Robert Sheehan portrays him.
* HeReallyCanAct: Most of the cast get their moments but special attention goes to Jordan Claire Robbins for her creepy portrayal of Grace.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: ''Klaus''. He's the most well-liked out of the siblings, primarily due to his attitude during the series, the trauma he deals with and how Robert Sheehan portrays him.
* HeReallyCanAct: Most of the cast get their moments but special attention goes to Jordan Claire Robbins for her creepy portrayal of Grace.
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Most of the siblings get this in some form or another, but Luther gets it the worst. While plenty view him as TheScrappy, there are others who don't and argue that his upbringing was just as abusive as the rest of the Academy's and justifies much of his behavior.
* CompleteMonster: InUniverse, even. Reginald Hargreeves is viewed as this by most of the siblings, Diego especially. The fact that he put them through the training from hell to make them superheroes, emotionally neglected them, brainwashed Vanya into forgetting her powers, along with locking her in a tiny room and Klaus in a ''crypt'' as children, puts him firmly in this category.
* CompleteMonster: InUniverse, even. Reginald Hargreeves is viewed as this by most of the siblings, Diego especially. The fact that he put them through the training from hell to make them superheroes, emotionally neglected them, brainwashed Vanya into forgetting her powers, along with locking her in a tiny room and Klaus in a ''crypt'' as children, puts him firmly in this category.
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** During the final confrontation, Allison manages to get the drop on [[spoiler: Vanya]], just as said character has the other Hargreeves siblings pinned and is slowly killing them. She looks utterly torn and heartbroken as she tries to decide whether to shoot or not. Luckily crosses over with CrowningMomentOfAwesome as she comes up with a TakeAThirdOption solution that manages to save ''all'' of them.
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** Almost everything relating to Klaus after he comes back from the trip to the past, but especially his desire to get sober so he can use his powers because he's that desperate to see Dave again. Made worse by the fact that, in "The Day That Wasn't", he managed to succeed at seeing Dave again but as the day is rewound and erased, he doesn't manage it a second time.
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** Almost everything relating to Klaus after he comes back from the trip to the past, but especially his desire to get sober so he can use his powers because he's that desperate to see Dave again. Made worse by the fact that, in "The Day That Wasn't", he managed to succeed at seeing Dave again but as the day is rewound and erased, he doesn't manage it a second time.
time. Instead, when he unlocks his powers he gets Reginald while ''expecting'' Dave.
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* RonTheDeathEater: Luther received this a lot due to [[spoiler:locking Vanya away in an attempt to stop her from causing the apocalypse]]. This is despite the fact that he clearly isn't enjoying having to do this and did that in a desperate attempt to save everyone else and he still loves Vanya regardless.
* TheScrappy: Luther has been received somewhat poorly by many fans and quickly gathered a hatedom due to many not caring for his NotBloodSiblings romance with Allison, having an uninteresting CharacterArc and coming off as unsympathetic in many of the moments that the family are fighting. [[spoiler:Most notably, the fact that he causes Vanya to snap and cause the apocalypse when he locked her away is brought up by many fans as the reason why they dislike him]].
* TheScrappy: Luther has been received somewhat poorly by many fans and quickly gathered a hatedom due to many not caring for his NotBloodSiblings romance with Allison, having an uninteresting CharacterArc and coming off as unsympathetic in many of the moments that the family are fighting. [[spoiler:Most notably, the fact that he causes Vanya to snap and cause the apocalypse when he locked her away is brought up by many fans as the reason why they dislike him]].
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* {{Tearjerker}}: In episode 2, we see how Number Five discovers the BadFuture, including the burnt-out ruins of the Academy and [[spoiler: his siblings lying dead in the rubble.]] Especially bad because at that point, he's not a world-weary 58-year-old trapped in a child's body, but ''actually a child''.
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** In episode 2, we see how Number Five discovers the BadFuture, including the burnt-out ruins of the Academy and [[spoiler: his siblings lying dead in the rubble.]] Especially bad because at that point, he's not a world-weary 58-year-old trapped in a child's body, but ''actually a child''.
** In episode 2, we see how Number Five discovers the BadFuture, including the burnt-out ruins of the Academy and [[spoiler: his siblings lying dead in the rubble.]] Especially bad because at that point, he's not a world-weary 58-year-old trapped in a child's body, but ''actually a child''.
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* SignatureScene: Vanya, Allison, Luther, Diego and Klaus dancing on various different rooms of the house to the sound of "I Think We're Alone Now".
* SignatureSong: Tiffany's "I Think We're Alone Now", which is used on the most well known scene of the show.
* SignatureSong: Tiffany's "I Think We're Alone Now", which is used on the most well known scene of the show.
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* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: Vanya tells Pogo that every night she'd make a snack and make sure the lights were on, so that if Five ever managed to get home it wouldn't be to a dark house.
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** Vanya tells Pogo that every night she'd make a snack and make sure the lights were on, so that if Five ever managed to get home it wouldn't be to a darkhouse. house.
** [[spoiler:During Vanya's presentation in which she will cause the Apocalypse, she looks to the crowd and sees Allison there. Instead of starting planning a way to kill each other on the spot, they merely smile at each other and it is clear that Allison is proud of her sister for getting the position of first violin, which makes the ending of the night all the more bittersweet]].
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** [[spoiler:During Vanya's presentation in which she will cause the Apocalypse, she looks to the crowd and sees Allison there. Instead of starting planning a way to kill each other on the spot, they merely smile at each other and it is clear that Allison is proud of her sister for getting the position of first violin, which makes the ending of the night all the more bittersweet]].
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** "Istanbul" by Music/TheyMightBeGiants, played in the scene where Number 5 takes out a squad of {{Mooks}} in the doughnut shop.
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** Almost everything relating to Klaus after he comes back from the trip to the past, but especially his desire to get sober so he can use his powers because he's that desperate to see Dave again. Made worse by the fact that, in "The Day That Wasn't", he managed to succeed at seeing Dave again but as the day is rewound and erased, he doesn't manage it a second time.
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** [[spoiler: Luther locking Vanya up. Her other brothers want to let her go and argue with Luther. When Luther refuses even Allison, you can see how upset both Allison and Vanya are with his decision.]]
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* {{Tearjerker}}: In episode 2, we see how Number Five discovers the BadFuture, including the burnt-out ruins of the Academy and [[spoiler: his siblings lying dead in the rubble.]] Especially because at that point, he's not a world-weary 58-year-old trapped in a child's body, but ''actually a child''.
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* {{Tearjerker}}: In episode 2, we see how Number Five discovers the BadFuture, including the burnt-out ruins of the Academy and [[spoiler: his siblings lying dead in the rubble.]] Especially bad because at that point, he's not a world-weary 58-year-old trapped in a child's body, but ''actually a child''.
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* NightmareFuel: The flashbacks to the more traumatic parts of the Hargreeves siblings' training qualify, like Vanya being locked in the soundproof room or Klaus being locked in the crypt while being haunted by the dead.
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* UncannyValley: Jordan Claire Robbins as Grace does a ''fantastic'' job acting like a robot, to the point where it becomes almost creepy.
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** "[[Music/TheBangles Hazy Shade of Winter]]" in the official trailer, a rocking cover performed by [[CreatorCameo Gerard Way himself]].
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** "[[Music/TheBangles "[[Music/SimonAndGarfunkel Hazy Shade of Winter]]" in the official trailer, a rocking cover performed by [[CreatorCameo Gerard Way himself]].
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The show definitely has some '80s throwback nostalgia.
** "I Think We're Alone Now" by Tiffany, which fits in perfectly with the first trailer.
** "[[Music/TheBangles Hazy Shade of Winter]]" in the official trailer, a rocking cover performed by [[CreatorCameo Gerard Way himself]].
** "I Think We're Alone Now" by Tiffany, which fits in perfectly with the first trailer.
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* JustHereForGodzilla: Some have expressed interest in the show because Creator/EllenPage stars in it.
* MemeticMutation: Because of who wrote the comic, making references to Music/MyChemicalRomance is bound to show up in any comments section related to the show.
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* MemeticMutation: Because of who wrote the comic, making references to Music/MyChemicalRomance is bound to show up in any comments section related to the show.
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