I just don't understand why No Yay isn't on this page yet. I just started watching the show and the idea that she's romantically interested in him, despite all of them clearly thinking of each other as brothers and sisters (even if they're not biologically related) is just super weird to me.
Should Viktor's entries and mentions from prior to his realization and transition in season 3 actually be changed to masculine pronouns? Obviously he uses male pronouns and the name Viktor since the beginning of season 3, but prior to that point their sexual identity was never in question and referring to him by their current pronouns should arguably count as a spoiler, not to mention it must be confusing to anyone reading the Umbrella Academy article before watching the show.
Basically, shouldn't entries regarding when Viktor *was* Vanya, still be referring to him by the pronouns of the time so as to be more accurate?
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I don't think so. Firstly, I don't think a character being trans should be treated as a spoiler. It's not like a plot twist or anything. If we're worried about confusing fans, we can leave a note at the top of the page as an explanation, perhaps. Secondly, from what I understand, deadnaming is still seen as very disrespectful even if it's referring to the past. It's not that Viktor "used to be Vanya," he was always Viktor but did not realize it until Season 3. But that's just my take on it.
I think that Diego is suffering angst throughout season 2. It may not be Patch's death necessarily but he is super angsty in the first two episodes, with good reason.
Diego avenged Patch by attacking Hazel and Cha-Cha. Specifically, the moment where he had Cha-Cha at his mercy and could have killed her the way she shot Eudora. Yet he doesn't, because Five accurately asked if it would be what Patch wanted. This gave Diego the closure he needed.
Don't forget he was committed in season 2 and given therapy. While the doctors don't believe him about Kennedy's death, they seem to help pinpoint his issues, including that he has a savior complex due to his upbringing. Diego as a result is much calmer when we see him in the hospital, and it's not just the unwanted tranquilizers.
I feel like we should discuss two recently added tropes concerning Allison. Moral Event Horizon is used to mark a point in the story when a character becomes irredeemable, and there is a shift in the way that the character is "perceived by the narrative and other characters." While I completely agree that Allison crossed some serious lines this season, from what I can recall the narrative/writers don't go out of their way to write her off as irredeemable (e.g. there are still moments where we are meant to feel bad for her, - her breaking down after her siblings come to a vote to not risk going into Hotel Oblivion being one - and she refuses to let her siblings die in order for Reginald to (seemingly) fully power the "reset machine.")
By that same token, if we were to take Allison rumouring Luthor into wanting her as her Moral Event Horizon, then Unintentionally Unsympathetic wouldn't really be applicable, given that this act would show that the narrative did not intend for the audience to see her as sympathetic.
Finally, Allison is clearly Slowly Slipping Into Evil throughout the season, and neither Luthor or Viktor are portrayed as in the wrong for taking issue with the things that Allison does (both to them and their loved ones) throughout the season.
I post this here in the discussion to ask for a second opinion on what should be done. Should the Moral Event Horizon entry be removed and the Unintentionally Unsympathetic entry be slightly reworded (in a way that argues that the writer's attempts to create sympathy for Allison potentially fall flat) or, given that, as twisted as her actions are, Allison's behaviour is ultimately motivated by grief and loss, should both entries be removed?
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