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* QuestionableCasting: An example that isn't one specific piece of casting, but the entire basis of a production. A fairly recent show of Shrew gender bent the entire cast. For some this was an interesting take on the gender roles, but for others, basing the whole show around this concept didn't allow the production to truly embrace the subversive nature of other modern productions.



* WTHCastingAgency: An example that isn't one specific piece of casting, but the entire basis of a production. A fairly recent show of Shrew gender bent the entire cast. For some this was an interesting take on the gender roles, but for others, basing the whole show around this concept didn't allow the production to truly embrace the subversive nature of other modern productions.
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* AluminumChristmasTrees: Tranio's father was a "sail maker" from land-locked Bergamo. Bergamo is the nearest large city to Lake Iseo and close to Lake Como, creating a Bergamo boat-making and sail-making industry which started long before the 16th century and continues to this day.
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Up To Eleven is a defunct trope


* ValuesDissonance: Even the most subversive and proto-feminist interpretations can't make all of the sexism palatable to modern audiences. And if you don't read it as subversive--if you take the text at face value, as a story of a domineering man breaking a woman to his will and turning her into a submissive -- the Values Dissonance is cranked UpToEleven. (As noted above, many of the "taming" methods look a lot like what we'd now call psychological torture to some interpreters.)

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* ValuesDissonance: Even the most subversive and proto-feminist interpretations can't make all of the sexism palatable to modern audiences. And if you don't read it as subversive--if you take the text at face value, as a story of a domineering man breaking a woman to his will and turning her into a submissive -- the Values Dissonance is cranked UpToEleven.up to eleven. (As noted above, many of the "taming" methods look a lot like what we'd now call psychological torture to some interpreters.)
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* NightmareFuel: Petruchio psychologically wearing down his bride Katherine, as evidenced by the title. She's DeniedFoodAsPunishment and subjected to a SleepDeprivationPunishment and even TwoPlusTortureMakesFive! Her speech at the end, urging women to submit to their husbands, demonstrates how fully Petruchio has crushed her spirit. The worst part is that, though more recent performances have acknowledged the horror of what Katherine goes through (for example, by playing up the BrokenBird angle during her final monologue), [[ValuesDissonance more traditional versions play the whole thing for laughs!]]

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* NightmareFuel: Petruchio psychologically wearing down his bride Katherine, as evidenced by the title. She's DeniedFoodAsPunishment and subjected to a SleepDeprivationPunishment and even TwoPlusTortureMakesFive! Her speech at the end, urging women to submit to their husbands, demonstrates how fully Petruchio has crushed her spirit. The worst part is that, though some more recent performances have acknowledged the horror of what Katherine goes through (for example, by playing up the BrokenBird angle during her final monologue), [[ValuesDissonance more traditional versions play the whole thing for laughs!]]
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* NightmareFuel: Petruchio psychologically wearing down his bride Katherine, as evidenced by the title. She's DeniedFoodAsPunishment and subjected to a SleepDeprivationPunishment and even TwoPlusTortureMakesFive! Her speech at the end, urging women to submit to their husbands, demonstrates how fully Petruchio has crushed her spirit. The worst part is that, though more recent performances have acknowledged the horror of what Katherine goes through (for example, by depicting playing up the BrokenBird angle during her final monologue), [[ValuesDissonance more traditional versions play the whole thing for laughs!]]

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* NightmareFuel: Petruchio psychologically wearing down his bride Katherine, as evidenced by the title. She's DeniedFoodAsPunishment and subjected to a SleepDeprivationPunishment and even TwoPlusTortureMakesFive! Her speech at the end, urging women to submit to their husbands, demonstrates how fully Petruchio has crushed her spirit. The worst part is that, though more recent performances have acknowledged the horror of what Katherine goes through (for example, by depicting playing up the BrokenBird angle during her final monologue), [[ValuesDissonance more traditional versions play the whole thing for laughs!]]
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** Of course, one key difference between Fifty Shades and this story is that the former has consent - arguably dubious consent but still consent - while the latter does not. A woman agreeing to be a submissive and a woman being forced into it is quite different

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** Of course, one key difference between Fifty Shades ''Fifty Shades'' and this story is that the former has consent - arguably dubious consent but still consent - consent-- while the latter does not. A woman agreeing to be a submissive and a woman being forced into it is quite differentdifferent.
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* NightmareFuel: Petruchio psychologically wearing down his bride Katherine, as evidenced by the title. She's DeniedFoodAsPunishment and subjected to a SleepDeprivationPunishment and even TwoPlusTortureEqualsFive! Her speech at the end, urging women to submit to their husbands, demonstrates how fully Petruchio has crushed her spirit. The worst part is that, though more recent performances have acknowledged the horror of what Katherine goes through (for example, by depicting playing up the BrokenBird angle during her final monologue), [[ValuesDissonance more traditional versions play the whole thing for laughs!]]

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* NightmareFuel: Petruchio psychologically wearing down his bride Katherine, as evidenced by the title. She's DeniedFoodAsPunishment and subjected to a SleepDeprivationPunishment and even TwoPlusTortureEqualsFive! TwoPlusTortureMakesFive! Her speech at the end, urging women to submit to their husbands, demonstrates how fully Petruchio has crushed her spirit. The worst part is that, though more recent performances have acknowledged the horror of what Katherine goes through (for example, by depicting playing up the BrokenBird angle during her final monologue), [[ValuesDissonance more traditional versions play the whole thing for laughs!]]
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* NightmareFuel: Petruchio psychologically wearing down his bride Katherine, as evidenced by the title. She's DeniedFoodAsPunishment and subjected to a SleepDeprivationPunishment and even TwoPlusTortureEqualsFive! Her speech at the end, urging women to submit to their husbands, demonstrates how fully Petruchio has crushed her spirit. The worst part is that, though more recent performances have acknowledged the horror of what Katherine goes through (for example, by depicting playing up the BrokenBird angle during her final monologue), [[ValuesDissonance more traditional versions play the whole thing for laughs!]]
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* WTHCastingAgency: An example that isn't one specific piece of casting, but the entire basis of a production. A fairly recent show of Shrew GenderBent the entire cast. For some this was an interesting take on the gender roles, but for others, basing the whole show around this concept didn't allow the production to truly embrace the subversive nature of other modern productions.

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* WTHCastingAgency: An example that isn't one specific piece of casting, but the entire basis of a production. A fairly recent show of Shrew GenderBent gender bent the entire cast. For some this was an interesting take on the gender roles, but for others, basing the whole show around this concept didn't allow the production to truly embrace the subversive nature of other modern productions.
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* BrokenBase: Is the play sexist, or is it commenting on sexism? Regardless of how it was intended when written, any decent modern production will aim to represent it as the latter, using whatever subversive methods necessary.


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* WTHCastingAgency: An example that isn't one specific piece of casting, but the entire basis of a production. A fairly recent show of Shrew GenderBent the entire cast. For some this was an interesting take on the gender roles, but for others, basing the whole show around this concept didn't allow the production to truly embrace the subversive nature of other modern productions.
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** While Petruchio starts out merely wanting a wife for money, he can be played as genuinely falling for Katherine. Indeed, Creator/RaulJulia played heavily into this opposite Creator/MerylStreep.
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Not approved by the Magnificent Bastard cleanup thread.


* MagnificentBastard: Petruchio
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This is hardly misogynistic if readers, viewers and audiece members of both genders are in agreement.

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** Surprisingly, both male and female readers, viewers and audience members have viewed Kate as a woman who needs to learn humility. To be fair, they have a point; at one stage Kate hits a music teacher over the head with a lute simply because he told her she played some notes wrong and tried to show her how to do them properly, and at another stage she strikes Petruchio just for making a crude - but fairly benign - joke about her.
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** Of course, one key difference between Fifty Shades and this story is that the former has consent - arguably dubious consent but still consent - while the latter does not.

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** Of course, one key difference between Fifty Shades and this story is that the former has consent - arguably dubious consent but still consent - while the latter does not. A woman agreeing to be a submissive and a woman being forced into it is quite different
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** Of course, one key difference between Fifty Shades and this story is that the former has consent - arguably dubious consent but still consent - while the latter does not.

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