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* FriendlyFandoms: Although some people find the movie’s similarities to ''How To Train Your Dragon'' glaring, there are still a decent amount of people who enjoy both movies and even feature fan-art featuring sea monsters and dragons interacting with each other.

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* FriendlyFandoms: Although some people find the movie’s similarities to ''How To Train Your Dragon'' glaring, there are still a decent amount of people who enjoy both movies and even feature make fan-art featuring sea monsters and dragons interacting with each other.
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* FriendlyFandoms: Although some people find the movie’s similarities to ''How To Train Your Dragon'' glaring, there are still a decent amount of people who enjoy both movies and even feature fan-art featuring sea monsters and dragons interacting with each other.
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The attack was caused by a crewmate firing a gunshot at Red, but admittedly she was ready to attack them before that happened so... fair take. Apologies if I cut too much, I was trying to make edited text flow.


** The monsters themselves may not be entirely benign. Sure, Blue is cute, and the yellow monster is simply protecting her babies, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the same applies to some of the others. There's nothing to suggest that giant crab that attacks Jacob and Maisie is anything other than a voracious, predatory killing machine. While Red is revealed to be fairly gentle towards Maisie and Jacob, it's she who attacks Hornagold and the ''Imperator'' crew first, at a moment when the ship poses no immediate threat to her and while her crew--oblivious to her presence--are engaged in the relatively innocent task of gathering supplies. The Crown may have exaggerated the threat of the monsters over the years through propaganda, but that's not to say there was never a threat to ''begin'' with...

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** The monsters themselves may not be entirely benign. Sure, Blue is cute, and the yellow monster is simply protecting her babies, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the same applies to some of the others. There's nothing to suggest that giant crab that attacks Jacob and Maisie is anything other than a voracious, predatory killing machine. While Red is revealed to be fairly gentle towards Maisie and Jacob, it's she who attacks Hornagold they still have to convince her to leave and avoid attacking the ''Imperator'' ship long before the crew first, at a moment even notices her presence, and this is when the a ship poses no immediate threat to her is stuck at port and while her crew--oblivious to her presence--are engaged in the relatively innocent task of gathering supplies. The Crown may have exaggerated the threat of the monsters over the years through propaganda, but that's not to say there was never a threat to ''begin'' with...

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: The king and queen, in regards to how much they know about the sea beasts. Considering that [[spoiler:the false version of the war's origins]] has been told for hundreds of years, it's highly possible that the royals themselves grew up truly believing this version and may not necessarily know any better, just like their subjects. The queen even says that no one remembers how the war started and neither she or the king has any first-hand experience with the sea beasts. Not that this lets them off the hook for all their actions, especially in the climax when the truth comes out, but this interpretation suggests they're more ObliviouslyEvil.
** The monsters themselves may not be entirely benign. Sure, Blue is cute and the yellow monster is simply protecting her babies; but that doesn't necessarily mean that the same applies to some of the others. There's nothing to suggest that giant crab that attacks Jacob and Maisie is anything other than a voracious, predatory killing machine. And while Red is revealed to be fairly gentle towards Maisie and Jacob, it's she who attacks Hornagold and the ''Imperator'' crew first, at a moment when the ship poses no immediate threat to her and while her crew - oblivious to her presence - are engaged in the relatively innocent task of gathering supplies. The Crown may have exaggerated the threat of the monsters over the years through propaganda... but that's not to say there was never a threat to ''begin'' with...

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The king and queen, in regards to how much they know about the sea beasts. Considering that [[spoiler:the false version of the war's origins]] has been told for hundreds of years, it's highly possible that the royals themselves grew up truly believing this version and may not necessarily know any better, just like their subjects. The queen even says that no one remembers how the war started and neither she or the king has any first-hand experience with the sea beasts. Not that this lets them off the hook for all their actions, especially in the climax when the truth comes out, but this interpretation suggests they're more ObliviouslyEvil.
** The monsters themselves may not be entirely benign. Sure, Blue is cute cute, and the yellow monster is simply protecting her babies; babies, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the same applies to some of the others. There's nothing to suggest that giant crab that attacks Jacob and Maisie is anything other than a voracious, predatory killing machine. And while While Red is revealed to be fairly gentle towards Maisie and Jacob, it's she who attacks Hornagold and the ''Imperator'' crew first, at a moment when the ship poses no immediate threat to her and while her crew - oblivious crew--oblivious to her presence - are presence--are engaged in the relatively innocent task of gathering supplies. The Crown may have exaggerated the threat of the monsters over the years through propaganda... propaganda, but that's not to say there was never a threat to ''begin'' with...
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** The monsters themselves may not be entirely benign. Sure, Blue is cute and the yellow monster is simply protecting her babies; but that doesn't necessarily mean that the same applies to some of the others. There's nothing to suggest that giant crab that attacks Jacob and Maisie is anything other than a voracious, predatory killing machine. And while Red is revealed to be fairly gentle towards Maisie and Jacob, it's she who attacks Hornagold and the ''Imperator'' crew first, at a moment when the ship poses no immediate threat to her and while her crew - oblivious to her presence - are engaged in the relatively innocent task of gathering supplies. The Crown may have exaggerated the threat of the monsters over the years through propaganda... but that's not to say there was never a threat to 'begin' with...

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** The monsters themselves may not be entirely benign. Sure, Blue is cute and the yellow monster is simply protecting her babies; but that doesn't necessarily mean that the same applies to some of the others. There's nothing to suggest that giant crab that attacks Jacob and Maisie is anything other than a voracious, predatory killing machine. And while Red is revealed to be fairly gentle towards Maisie and Jacob, it's she who attacks Hornagold and the ''Imperator'' crew first, at a moment when the ship poses no immediate threat to her and while her crew - oblivious to her presence - are engaged in the relatively innocent task of gathering supplies. The Crown may have exaggerated the threat of the monsters over the years through propaganda... but that's not to say there was never a threat to 'begin' ''begin'' with...
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** The monsters themselves may not be entirely benign. Sure, Blue is cute and the yellow monster is simply protecting her babies; but that doesn't necessarily mean that the same applies to some of the others. There's nothing to suggest that giant crab that attacks Jacob and Maisie is anything other than a voracious, predatory killing machine. And while Red is revealed to be fairly gentle towards Maisie and Jacob, it's she who attacks Hornagold and the ''Imperator'' crew first, at a moment when the ship poses no immediate threat to her and while her crew - oblivious to her presence - are engaged in the relatively innocent task of gathering supplies. The Crown may have exaggerated the threat of the monsters over the years through propaganda... but that's not to say there was never a threat to 'begin' with...
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* DesignatedVillain: While Gwen Batterbie is portrayed as an evil witch, all she does is sell weapons that are not especially cruel (probably because this film is aimed at children).
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: The king and queen, in regards to how much they know about the sea beasts. Considering that [[spoiler:the false version of the war's origins]] has been told for hundreds of years, it's highly possible that the royals themselves grew up truly believing this version and may not necessarily know any better, just like their subjects. The queen even says that no one remembers how the war started and neither she or the king has any first-hand experience with the sea beasts. Not that this lets them off the hook for all their actions, especially in the climax when the truth comes out, but this interpretation could suggest they're more ObliviouslyEvil.
* MoralEventHorizon: The Monarchs cross it when they keep ordering the guards to fire at the Red Bluster. At this time the truth has already been revealed, the sea beast was retreating peacefully and [[UnfriendlyFire Jacob]] and [[WouldHurtAChild Maisie]] were still riding on her.
* TheyCopiedItSoItSucks: The story has a few striking similarities to ''WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragon'' with the idea of a child hailing from a coastal/islandic society that shoots down powerful creatures on sight, only to find out that they're actually peaceful after an encounter with the most elusive member of their kind. Not to mention that both the Red Bluster and Toothless have some pretty expressive [[CatlikeDragons cat-like faces]], though this part seems to be a coincidence since Red was [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0KnynQIzmg inspired by lions]] while Toothless took after a black panther. Exactly how much the similarities hurt or [[FriendlyFandoms even help]] the film, or if both works stand on their own as genuinely good and separate movies is up to viewer opinion.
* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: Marketed as a children's film for Netflix and promotional videos for it are placed on their "After School" Youtube channel, but is considerably more bold than the previous Disney works by Chris Williams, showing alcohol consumption instead of the usual FrothyMugsOfWater, a few bits of profanity, and even human blood in one scene. The movie is also very keen on death as a concept with its ArcWords "live the greatest lives and die the greatest deaths", which in fact integral to the [[MartyrdomCulture Hunter ideology]], so NeverSayDie is never in effect.

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: The king and queen, in regards to how much they know about the sea beasts. Considering that [[spoiler:the false version of the war's origins]] has been told for hundreds of years, it's highly possible that the royals themselves grew up truly believing this version and may not necessarily know any better, just like their subjects. The queen even says that no one remembers how the war started and neither she or the king has any first-hand experience with the sea beasts. Not that this lets them off the hook for all their actions, especially in the climax when the truth comes out, but this interpretation could suggest suggests they're more ObliviouslyEvil.
* MoralEventHorizon: The Monarchs monarchs cross it when they keep ordering the guards to fire at the Red Bluster. At this time time, the truth has already been revealed, the sea beast was is retreating peacefully peacefully, and [[UnfriendlyFire Jacob]] and [[WouldHurtAChild Maisie]] were are still riding on her.
* TheyCopiedItSoItSucks: The story has a few striking similarities to ''WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragon'' with the idea of a child hailing from a coastal/islandic society that shoots down powerful creatures on sight, only to find out that they're actually peaceful after an encounter with the most elusive member of their kind. Not to mention that both Both the Red Bluster and Toothless also have some pretty expressive [[CatlikeDragons cat-like faces]], though this part seems to be a coincidence coincidence, since Red was [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0KnynQIzmg inspired by lions]] lions]], while Toothless took after a black panther. Exactly how much the similarities hurt or [[FriendlyFandoms even help]] the film, or if both works stand on their own as genuinely good and separate movies movies, is up to viewer opinion.
* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: Marketed It's marketed as a children's film for Netflix Netflix, and promotional videos for it are placed on their "After School" Youtube channel, but ''The Sea Beast'' is considerably more bold than the previous Disney works by Chris Williams, showing alcohol consumption instead of the usual FrothyMugsOfWater, a few bits of profanity, and even human blood in one scene. The movie is also very keen on death as a concept concept, with its ArcWords "live the greatest lives and die the greatest deaths", which in fact integral to the [[MartyrdomCulture Hunter hunter ideology]], so NeverSayDie is never in effect.
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removing these until there's more consensus


** On that note, their reaction to [[spoiler:the General's brother being on the ''Monarch'' ship also raises questions on how much they were directly responsible for the war. Did they run away simply because their military wasn't listening to them anymore? Did they run away because they didn't want to become TheScapegoat for countless hunter deaths? Or did they run away because they ''were'' responsible for the ship's sinking?]]
** There's also the question of why the royal family would directly fund an orphanage of children left behind by dead hunters. Is it a genuine kindness, just another charity they run in order to keep a good image, or [[spoiler:is it to brainwash the orphans into growing up to become a new line of hunters so the royals can continue securing new wealth and territory for the kingdom?]] Regardless of the answer, each interpretation can significantly skew the viewer's perception of the royal family and their role in the movie.
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** There's also the question of why the royal family would directly fund an orphanage of children left behind by dead hunters. Is it a genuine kindness, just another charity they run in order to keep a good image, or [[spoiler:is it to brainwash the orphans into growing up to become a new line of hunters so the royals can continue securing new wealth and territory for the kingdom?]] Regardless of the answer, whatever interpretation significantly skews the viewer's perception of the royal family and their role in the movie.

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** There's also the question of why the royal family would directly fund an orphanage of children left behind by dead hunters. Is it a genuine kindness, just another charity they run in order to keep a good image, or [[spoiler:is it to brainwash the orphans into growing up to become a new line of hunters so the royals can continue securing new wealth and territory for the kingdom?]] Regardless of the answer, whatever each interpretation can significantly skews skew the viewer's perception of the royal family and their role in the movie.
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** On that note, their reaction to [[spoiler:the General's brother being on the ''Monarch'' ship also raises questions on how much they were directly responsible for the war. Did they run away simply because their military wasn't listening to them anymore? Did they run away because they didn't want to become TheScapegoat for countless hunter deaths? Or did they run away because they ''were'' responsible ship's sinking?]]

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** On that note, their reaction to [[spoiler:the General's brother being on the ''Monarch'' ship also raises questions on how much they were directly responsible for the war. Did they run away simply because their military wasn't listening to them anymore? Did they run away because they didn't want to become TheScapegoat for countless hunter deaths? Or did they run away because they ''were'' responsible for the ship's sinking?]]
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Note: I'm not arguing. I subscribe to both theories on them being the real Big Bad and them being oblivious. Just adding onto it.

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** On that note, their reaction to [[spoiler:the General's brother being on the ''Monarch'' ship also raises questions on how much they were directly responsible for the war. Did they run away simply because their military wasn't listening to them anymore? Did they run away because they didn't want to become TheScapegoat for countless hunter deaths? Or did they run away because they ''were'' responsible ship's sinking?]]
** There's also the question of why the royal family would directly fund an orphanage of children left behind by dead hunters. Is it a genuine kindness, just another charity they run in order to keep a good image, or [[spoiler:is it to brainwash the orphans into growing up to become a new line of hunters so the royals can continue securing new wealth and territory for the kingdom?]] Regardless of the answer, whatever interpretation significantly skews the viewer's perception of the royal family and their role in the movie.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: The king and queen, in regards to how much they know about the sea beasts. Considering that [[spoiler:the false version of the war's origins]] has been told for hundreds of years, it's highly possible that the royals themselves grew up truly believing this version and may not necessarily know any better, just like their subjects. The queen even says that no one remembers how the war started and neither she or the king has any first-hand experience with the sea beasts. Not that this lets them off the hook for all their actions, especially in the climax when the truth comes out, but this interpretation could suggest they're more ObliviouslyEvil.
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: Marketed as a children's film for Netflix but is considerably more bold than the previous Disney works by Chris Williams, showing alcohol consumption instead of the usual FrothyMugsOfWater, a few bits of profanity, and even human blood in one scene. The movie is also very keen on death as a concept with its ArcWords "live the greatest lives and die the greatest deaths", which in fact integral to the [[MartyrdomCulture Hunter ideology]], so NeverSayDie is never in effect.

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* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: Marketed as a children's film for Netflix and promotional videos for it are placed on their "After School" Youtube channel, but is considerably more bold than the previous Disney works by Chris Williams, showing alcohol consumption instead of the usual FrothyMugsOfWater, a few bits of profanity, and even human blood in one scene. The movie is also very keen on death as a concept with its ArcWords "live the greatest lives and die the greatest deaths", which in fact integral to the [[MartyrdomCulture Hunter ideology]], so NeverSayDie is never in effect.
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* MoralEventHorizon: The Monarchs crosses it when they keep ordering the guards to fire at the Red Bluster. At this time the truth has already been revealed, the sea beast was retreating peacefully and [[UnfriendlyFire Jacob]] and [[WouldHurtAChild Maisie]] were still riding on her.

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* MoralEventHorizon: The Monarchs crosses cross it when they keep ordering the guards to fire at the Red Bluster. At this time the truth has already been revealed, the sea beast was retreating peacefully and [[UnfriendlyFire Jacob]] and [[WouldHurtAChild Maisie]] were still riding on her.



* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: Marketed as a children's film for Netflix but is considerably more bold than the previous Disney works by Chris Williams, showing alcohol consumption instead of the usual FrothyMugsOfWater, a few bits of profanity, and actual human blood in one scene. The movie is also very keen on death as a concept with its ArcWords "live the greatest lives and die the greatest deaths", which in fact integral to the [[MartyrdomCulture Hunter ideology]], so NeverSayDie is never in effect.

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* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: Marketed as a children's film for Netflix but is considerably more bold than the previous Disney works by Chris Williams, showing alcohol consumption instead of the usual FrothyMugsOfWater, a few bits of profanity, and actual even human blood in one scene. The movie is also very keen on death as a concept with its ArcWords "live the greatest lives and die the greatest deaths", which in fact integral to the [[MartyrdomCulture Hunter ideology]], so NeverSayDie is never in effect.
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* TheyCopiedItSoItSucks: The story has a few striking similarities to ''WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragon'' with the idea of a child hailing from a coastal/islandic society that shoots down powerful creatures on sight, only to find out that they're actually peaceful after an encounter with the most elusive member of their kind. Not to mention that both the Red Bluster and Toothless have some pretty expressive [[CatlikeDragons cat-like faces]], though this part seems to be a coincidence since Red was [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0KnynQIzmg inspired by lions]] due to their KingOfBeasts nature and, according to the art director, "efficient" movements while Toothless took after a black panther. Exactly how much this hurts or [[FriendlyFandoms even helps]] the film, or if both works stand on their own as genuinely good and separate movies is up to viewer opinion.

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* TheyCopiedItSoItSucks: The story has a few striking similarities to ''WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragon'' with the idea of a child hailing from a coastal/islandic society that shoots down powerful creatures on sight, only to find out that they're actually peaceful after an encounter with the most elusive member of their kind. Not to mention that both the Red Bluster and Toothless have some pretty expressive [[CatlikeDragons cat-like faces]], though this part seems to be a coincidence since Red was [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0KnynQIzmg inspired by lions]] due to their KingOfBeasts nature and, according to the art director, "efficient" movements while Toothless took after a black panther. Exactly how much this hurts the similarities hurt or [[FriendlyFandoms even helps]] help]] the film, or if both works stand on their own as genuinely good and separate movies is up to viewer opinion.
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* TheyCopiedItSoItSucks: The story has a few striking similarities to ''WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragon'' with the idea of a child hailing from a coastal/islandic society that shoots down powerful creatures on sight, only to find out that they're actually peaceful after an encounter with the most elusive member of their kind. Not to mention that both the Red Bluster and Toothless have some pretty expressive [[CatlikeDragons cat-like faces]], though this part seems to be a coincidence since Red was [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0KnynQIzmg inspired by lions]] due to their KingOfBeasts nature and "efficient" movements while Toothless took after a black panther. Exactly how much this hurts or [[FriendlyFandoms even helps]] the film, or if both works stand on their own as genuinely good and separate movies is up to viewer opinion.

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* TheyCopiedItSoItSucks: The story has a few striking similarities to ''WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragon'' with the idea of a child hailing from a coastal/islandic society that shoots down powerful creatures on sight, only to find out that they're actually peaceful after an encounter with the most elusive member of their kind. Not to mention that both the Red Bluster and Toothless have some pretty expressive [[CatlikeDragons cat-like faces]], though this part seems to be a coincidence since Red was [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0KnynQIzmg inspired by lions]] due to their KingOfBeasts nature and and, according to the art director, "efficient" movements while Toothless took after a black panther. Exactly how much this hurts or [[FriendlyFandoms even helps]] the film, or if both works stand on their own as genuinely good and separate movies is up to viewer opinion.
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this Netflix youtube video confirms it was actually lions that were the design inspiration.


* TheyCopiedItSoItSucks: The story has a few striking similarities to ''WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragon'' with the idea of a child hailing from a coastal/islandic society that shoots down powerful creatures on sight, only to find out that they're actually peaceful after an encounter with the most elusive member of their kind. Not to mention that both the Red Bluster and Toothless have some pretty expressive [[CatlikeDragons cat-like faces]], though this seems to be a coincidence since the Red Bluster has more of a snake/seal head while Toothless has a panther/lizard/axolotl-like head. Exactly how much this hurts or [[FriendlyFandoms even helps]] the film, or if both works stand on their own as genuinely good and separate movies is up to viewer opinion.

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* TheyCopiedItSoItSucks: The story has a few striking similarities to ''WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragon'' with the idea of a child hailing from a coastal/islandic society that shoots down powerful creatures on sight, only to find out that they're actually peaceful after an encounter with the most elusive member of their kind. Not to mention that both the Red Bluster and Toothless have some pretty expressive [[CatlikeDragons cat-like faces]], though this part seems to be a coincidence since the Red Bluster has more of a snake/seal head was [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0KnynQIzmg inspired by lions]] due to their KingOfBeasts nature and "efficient" movements while Toothless has took after a panther/lizard/axolotl-like head.black panther. Exactly how much this hurts or [[FriendlyFandoms even helps]] the film, or if both works stand on their own as genuinely good and separate movies is up to viewer opinion.
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* TheyCopiedItSoItSucks: The story has a few striking similarities to ''WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragon'' with the idea of a child hailing from a coastal/islandic society that shoots down powerful creatures on sight, only to find out that they're actually peaceful after an encounter with the most elusive member of their kind. Not to mention that both the Red Bluster and Toothless have some pretty expressive [[CatlikeDragons cat-like faces]], though this seems to be a coincidence since the Red Bluster has more of a snake/seal head than a panther/lizard/axolotl-like face. Exactly how much this hurts or [[FriendlyFandoms even helps]] the film, or if both works stand on their own as genuinely good and separate movies is up to viewer opinion.

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* TheyCopiedItSoItSucks: The story has a few striking similarities to ''WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragon'' with the idea of a child hailing from a coastal/islandic society that shoots down powerful creatures on sight, only to find out that they're actually peaceful after an encounter with the most elusive member of their kind. Not to mention that both the Red Bluster and Toothless have some pretty expressive [[CatlikeDragons cat-like faces]], though this seems to be a coincidence since the Red Bluster has more of a snake/seal head than while Toothless has a panther/lizard/axolotl-like face.head. Exactly how much this hurts or [[FriendlyFandoms even helps]] the film, or if both works stand on their own as genuinely good and separate movies is up to viewer opinion.
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* TheyCopiedItSoItSucks: The story has a few striking similarities to ''WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragon'' with the idea of a child hailing from a coastal/islandic society that shoots down powerful creatures on sight, only to find out that they're actually peaceful after an encounter with the most elusive member of their kind. Not to mention that both the Red Bluster and Toothless have some pretty expressive [[CatlikeDragons cat-like faces]], though this seems to be a coincidence since the Red Bluster has more of a snake/seal head than a panther/lizard/axolotl-like face. Exactly how much this hurts or [[FriendlyFandoms even helps]] the film, or if both works stand on their own as genuinely good and separate movies is up to viewer opinion.
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* MoralEventHorizon: The Monarchs crosses it when they keep ordering the guards to fire at the Red Bluster. At this time the truth has already been revealed, the sea beast was retreating peacefully and [[UnfriendlyFire Jacob]] and [[WouldHurtAChild Maisie]] were still riding on her.
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MEH implies a villain is beyond redemption which Crow is not


* MoralEventHorizon: Crow's rejection of the hunter code to make a deal with the sea witch (which among other things grants her ownership of the crew as people) marks his descent into pure revenge.
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: Marketed as a children's film for Netflix but is considerably more bold than the previous Disney works by Chris Williams, showing alcohol consumption instead of the usual FrothyMugsOfWater, a few bits of profanity, and actual human blood in one scene. The movie is also very keen on death as a concept with its ArcWords "live the greatest lives and die the greatest deaths", which in fact integral to the [[MartyrdomCulture Hunter ideology]], so NeverSayDie is never in effect.

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* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: Marketed as a children's film for Netflix but is considerably more bold than the previous Disney works by Chris Williams, showing alcohol consumption instead of the usual FrothyMugsOfWater, a few bits of profanity, and actual human blood in one scene. The movie is also very keen on death as a concept with its ArcWords "live the greatest lives and die the greatest deaths", which in fact integral to the [[MartyrdomCulture Hunter ideology]], so NeverSayDie is never in effect.effect.
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this is correct, but out of context, it makes the film sound more adult than it actually is. Since the film DOES push the envelope at a few points, I only added a few words to clarify the frequency of profanity/blood. Grabbed the Arc Words text from the main page btw.


* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: Marketed as a children's film for Netflix but is considerably more bold than the previous Disney works by Chris Williams, showing alcohol consumption, profanity and actual human blood more vividly. The movie is also very keen on death as a concept, in fact integral to the [[MartyrdomCulture Hunter ideology]], so NeverSayDie is never in effect.

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* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: Marketed as a children's film for Netflix but is considerably more bold than the previous Disney works by Chris Williams, showing alcohol consumption, profanity consumption instead of the usual FrothyMugsOfWater, a few bits of profanity, and actual human blood more vividly. in one scene. The movie is also very keen on death as a concept, concept with its ArcWords "live the greatest lives and die the greatest deaths", which in fact integral to the [[MartyrdomCulture Hunter ideology]], so NeverSayDie is never in effect.
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Watching the film now. Captain Crow calls the Admiral an ass


* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: Marketed as a children's film for Netflix but is considerably more bold than the previous Disney works by Chris Williams, showing alcohol consumption and actual human blood more vividly. The movie is also very keen on death as a concept, in fact integral to the [[MartyrdomCulture Hunter ideology]], so NeverSayDie is never in effect.

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* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: Marketed as a children's film for Netflix but is considerably more bold than the previous Disney works by Chris Williams, showing alcohol consumption consumption, profanity and actual human blood more vividly. The movie is also very keen on death as a concept, in fact integral to the [[MartyrdomCulture Hunter ideology]], so NeverSayDie is never in effect.
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* WhatDoYoumeanItsForKids: Marketed as a children's film for Netflix but is considerably more bold than the previous Disney works by Chris Williams, showing alcohol consumption and actual human blood more vividly. The movie is also very keen on death as a concept, in fact integral to the [[MartyrdomCulture Hunter ideology]], so NeverSayDie is never in effect.

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* WhatDoYoumeanItsForKids: WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: Marketed as a children's film for Netflix but is considerably more bold than the previous Disney works by Chris Williams, showing alcohol consumption and actual human blood more vividly. The movie is also very keen on death as a concept, in fact integral to the [[MartyrdomCulture Hunter ideology]], so NeverSayDie is never in effect.
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* WhatDoYoumeanItsForKids: Marketed as a children's series for Netflix but is considerably more bold than the previous Disney works by Chris Williams, showing alcohol consumption and actual human blood more vividly. The movie is also very keen on death as a concept, in fact integral to the [[MartyrdomCulture Hunter ideology]], so NeverSayDie is never in effect.

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* WhatDoYoumeanItsForKids: Marketed as a children's series film for Netflix but is considerably more bold than the previous Disney works by Chris Williams, showing alcohol consumption and actual human blood more vividly. The movie is also very keen on death as a concept, in fact integral to the [[MartyrdomCulture Hunter ideology]], so NeverSayDie is never in effect.
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* WhatDoYoumeanItsForKids: Marketed as a children's series for Netflix but is considerably more bold than the previous Disney works by Chris Williams, showing alcohol consumption and actual human blood more vividly. The movie is also very keen on death as a concept, in fact integral to the [[MatyrdomCulture Hunter ideology]], so NeverSayDie is never in effect.

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* WhatDoYoumeanItsForKids: Marketed as a children's series for Netflix but is considerably more bold than the previous Disney works by Chris Williams, showing alcohol consumption and actual human blood more vividly. The movie is also very keen on death as a concept, in fact integral to the [[MatyrdomCulture [[MartyrdomCulture Hunter ideology]], so NeverSayDie is never in effect.
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* MoralEventHorizon: Crow's rejection of the hunter code to make a deal with the sea witch (which among other things grants her ownership of the crew as people) marks his descent into pure revenge.
* WhatDoYoumeanItsForKids: Marketed as a children's series for Netflix but is considerably more bold than the previous Disney works by Chris Williams, showing alcohol consumption and actual human blood more vividly. The movie is also very keen on death as a concept, in fact integral to the [[MatyrdomCulture Hunter ideology]], so NeverSayDie is never in effect.

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