History YMMV / TheMLPLoops

* MarySuetopia: Has gotten some accusations of this in the past, [[{{Irony}} ironically]], given the franchise's history with, and smashing this, trope once [=FiM=] rolled around. While all the loopers eventually gain enough powers to short circuit the plots of their respective branches, the [=FiM=] loopers have ended up standing out thanks to their ability to seemingly circumvent ''any'' problems they come across, be it from their branch, another looper's branch, or a looper's personal problems themselves. It got to the point where the [=FiM=] loops became a [[BrokenBase hot button topic in the loops community]], and a lot of the later writers are doing their best to [[AvertedTrope avert]] it by having them face problems they ''can't'' solve or deal with... [[BrokenBase Much to the chagrin of those who dislike conflict in the FiM loops.]]

* WhatAnIdiot: A non-looping Blueblood attempted a palace coup against an united front of Celestia, Luna, Discord, Cadance, Chrysalis, Sombra, Princess Twilight, Shining Armor (ascended to Alicorn), and Spike (as an advanced great wyrm Emperor of the Dragons). Would have been TooDumbToLive, except he survives because they don't think he's worth the minimal effort to curb-stomp.
-->'''Twilight Sparkle (literally ROFL):''' You just tried to assassinate ''eight deities'' and a ''Greater Dragon''!
-->'''Blueblood (armed only with a knife):''' Errr... parlay?
* TheWoobie: Chrysalis, once she becomes a Looper. Her first loop was "[[CrapsackWorld Slavequestria]]", where she and a non-Awake Shining Armor were HappilyMarried and helping runaways as part of LaResistance. Then the loop reset, and she was horrified to find that all the terrible things she did in canon were ''not'' AllJustADream, as well as heartbroken that the Shining she had loved no longer exists, with the Awake Shining HappilyMarried to Cadance. She's left horribly depressed for many loops afterwards, and even though she's now in a steady relationship with [[spoiler: Awake Trixie]], it's clear she still misses her version of Shining.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Zecora ascended to become some kind of Zebra-Alicorn through the same event that Silver Spoon ascended to become an Draconequus. Not only did this completely deprive Zecora of her own personal awesome event to ascend with (instead of piggybacking it onto Silver Spoon's), Silver's very interesting and unique situation overshadowed Zecora's so much that there have been almost zero loops of her in her 'alicorn' form.

* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness: Due to MLP being one of the first universes to start looping after the original seven, the rules were still being figured out and by extension, many [=FiM=] loopers, such as Berry Punch, Mayor Mare, Silver Spoon, Derpy, Lyra Heartstrings, Vinyl Scratch and Nyx would never be about to loop nowadays.

* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: Chapter 149 recaps an incident where, in spite of the ponies best efforts, they ''couldn't'' save a Looper. When [[Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei Naoki Kashima/The Demi-Fiend]] snapped and was possessed by his ShadowArchetype, and went on a mindless and destructive rampage. The ponies tried to help him and bring him back to his senses with the Elements of Harmony...but they ''failed'', due to the problem being too [[EnemyWithin deep seated and closely connected]] to Naoki to be subdued or dealt with so easily. Some problems ''can't'' be solved in the span of a single Loop, or by using the PowerOfFriendship.[[DeconReconSwitch However,]] once Naoki came to his senses many Loops later, he remembered how they and other Loopers like them never gave up and took the easy way out by killing him in his berserk state, and fought to bring him to his senses instead to ''help him''. In spite of [[CrapsackWorld all the horrors, betrayals, and darkness]] of his Loop, the fact that the ponies never gave up in ''trying'' to help reminded him that [[RestoredMyFaithInHumanity there are some worlds worth fighting for.]] Ultimately, the message is this: sometimes, you ''can't'' solve every problem you come across...but it's always worth to ''try''. Even if you can't fix it, you can make it even the smallest bit better.

* MarySuetopia: Has gotten some accusations of this in the past, [[{{Irony}} ironically]], given the franchise's history with, and smashing this, trope once [=FiM=] rolled around. While all the loopers eventually gain enough powers to short circuit the plots of their respective branches, the [=FiM=] loopers have ended up standing out thanks to their ability to seemingly circumvent ''any'' problems they come across, be it from their branch, another looper's branch, or a looper's personal problems themselves. It got to the point where the [=FiM=] loops became a [[BrokenBase hot button topic in the loops community]], and a lot of the later writers are doing their best to [[AvertedTrope avert]] it by having them face problems they ''can't'' solves or deal with... [[BrokenBase Much to the chagrin of those who dislike conflict in the FiM loops.]]

* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness: Due to MLP being one of the first universes to start looping after the original seven, the rules were still being figured out and by extension, many [=FiM=] loopers, such as Berry Punch, Mayor Mare, Silver Spoon, Derpy, Lyra Heartstrings, Vinyl Scratch and Nyx would never be about to loop nowadays becoming loopers.

* CrackPairing: Berry Punch and [[spoiler: Discord]] eventually started dating. Also an ironic development, given that she originally turned him down (while they were both Awake) in loop 44.9.

** In the loops, Celestia has developed a bad habit of running off to the beach to go surfing after dumping all her responsibilities on another pony(generally Twilight). The final season of the show sees Celestia, along with Luna, do almost the exact same plot when they announce that they want to retire to Seaward Shoals and try to prep Twilight to take over ruling.

** Queen Chrysalis reforming ends up becoming this as in canon, [[spoiler: she, along with Tirek and Cozy Glow are among the few villains that ''don't'' change their ways.]]
** In the loops, Celestia has developed a bad habit of running off to the beach to go surfing after dumping all her responsibilities on another pony(generally Twilight). The the final season of the show sees Celestia, along with Luna, do almost the exact same plot when they announce that they want to retire to Seaward Shoals and try to prep Twilight to take over ruling.

* HilariousInHindsight: In Loop 202.17, originally written in November 2017, Starlight travels into the future and is sent back by a pony described as having "a yellow furred head, covered in a mass of pink curls". Their voice is explicitly compared to Maud Pie's. Almost two years later, canon introduced a pony with that exact physical description: Pinkie's son Li'l Cheese.

* HilariousInHindsight:
** In-universe example - one Loop, Princess Celestia woke up to find Nightmare Moon standing over her, and was almost immediately on the receiving end of a "Royal Canterlot Belly Zerbert". At the time, she reacted by spending the day chasing her sister around the castle yelling death threats; in a later Loop, she admits to Twilight that upon reflection, it was ActuallyPrettyFunny.
** In Loop 202.17, originally written in November 2017, Starlight travels into the future and is sent back by a pony described as having "a yellow furred head, covered in a mass of pink curls". Their voice is explicitly compared to Maud Pie's. Almost two years later, canon introduced a pony with that exact physical description: Pinkie's son Li'l Cheese.

* HilariousInHindsight: In-universe example - one Loop, Princess Celestia woke up to find Nightmare Moon standing over her, and was almost immediately on the receiving end of a "Royal Canterlot Belly Zerbert". At the time, she reacted by spending the day chasing her sister around the castle yelling death threats; in a later Loop, she admits to Twilight that upon reflection, it was ActuallyPrettyFunny.

* BrokenBase: The [=FiM=] loops has reached this status among reviewers and a few writers alike. Obviously, they're still fairly popular with writers of the loops and faithful [=FiM=] fans, but most readers of other loops often tend to groan over their appearances in the loops, especially from those who felt the series JumpedTheShark after season three. Even series fans have started to grow weary of the loops, with the [=FiM=] loopers so focused on comedy that [[{{Flanderization}} they barely resemble anything of their former selves]]. Their uncanny ability to fix any problem a looper has, no matter how improbable, is a major reason why some writers are tired of them, as they often tended to get shoehorned in to fix a problem without the head author's consent. In short, ''anything'' about the [=FiM=] is likely to spark arguments from writers and reviewers alike, and let's just leave it at that.

* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: Chapter 149 recaps an incident where, in spite of the ponies best efforts, they ''couldn't'' save a Looper. When [[ShinMegamiTensei Naoki Kashima/The Demi-Fiend]] snapped and was possessed by his ShadowArchetype, and went on a mindless and destructive rampage. The ponies tried to help him and bring him back to his senses with the Elements of Harmony...but they ''failed'', due to the problem being too [[EnemyWithin deep seated and closely connected]] to Naoki to be subdued or dealt with so easily. Some problems ''can't'' be solved in the span of a single Loop, or by using the PowerOfFriendship.[[DeconReconSwitch However,]] once Naoki came to his senses many Loops later, he remembered how they and other Loopers like them never gave up and took the easy way out by killing him in his berserk state, and fought to bring him to his senses instead to ''help him''. In spite of [[CrapsackWorld all the horrors, betrayals, and darkness]] of his Loop, the fact that the ponies never gave up in ''trying'' to help reminded him that [[RestoredMyFaithInHumanity there are some worlds worth fighting for.]] Ultimately, the message is this: sometimes, you ''can't'' solve every problem you come across...but it's always worth to ''try''. Even if you can't fix it, you can make it even the smallest bit better.

* BrokenBase: The [=FiM=] loops has reached this status among reviewers and a few writers alike. Obviously, they're still fairly popular with writers of the loops and faithful [=FiM=] fans, but most readers of other loops often tend to groan over their appearances in the loops, especially from those who felt the series JumpedTheShark after season three. Even series fans have started to grow weary of the loops, with the [=FiM=] loopers so focused on comedy that [[{{Flanderization}} they barely resemble anything of their former selves]]. Their uncanny ability to fix any problem a looper has, no matter how improbable, is a major reason why some writers are tired of them, as they often tended to get shoehorned in to fix a problem without the head author's consent. In short, ''anything'' about the [=FiM=] is likely to spark arguments from writers and reviewers alike, and lets just leave it at that.

* MarySuetopia: Has gotten some accusations of this in the past, [[{{Irony}} ironically]], given the franchise's history with, and smashing this, trope once [=FiM=] rolled around. While all the loopers eventually gain enough powers to short circuit the plots of their respective branches, the [=FiM=] loopers have ended up standing out thanks to their ability to seemingly circumvent ''any'' problems they come a crossed, be it from their branch, another loopers branch, or a loopers personal problems themselves. It got to the point where the [=FiM=] loops became a [[BrokenBase hot button topic in the loops community]], and a lot of the later writers are doing their best to [[AvertedTrope avert]] by having them face problems they ''can't'' solves or deal with... [[BrokenBase Much to the chagrin of those who dislike conflict in the FiM loops.]]

* TheWoobie: Chrysalis, once she becomes a Looper. Her first loop was "[[CrapsackWorld Slavequestria]]", where she and a non-Awake Shining Armor were HappilyMarried and helping runaways as part of LaResistance. Then the loop reset, and she was horrified to find that all the terrible things she did in canon were ''not'' AllJustADream, as well as heartbroken that the Shining she had loved no longer exists, with the Awake Shining HappilyMarried to Cadence. She's left horribly depressed for many loops afterwards, and even though she's now in a steady relationship with [[spoiler: Awake Trixie]], it's clear she still misses her version of Shining.

** Trixie and Chrysalis, as well, given the two characters have never met in the show.

* MarySuetopia: Has gotten some accusations of this in the past, [[{{Irony}} ironically]], given the franchise's history with, and smashing this, trope once [=FiM=] rolled around. While all the loopers eventually gain enough powers to short circuit the plots of their respective branches, the [=FiM=] loopers have ended up standing out thanks to their ability to seemingly circumvent ''any'' problems they come a crossed, be it from their branch, another loopers branch, or a loopers personal problems themselves. It got to the point where the [=FiM=] loops became a [[BrokenBase hot button topic in the loops community]], and a lot of the later writers are doing their best to [[AvertedTrope avert]] by having them face problems they ''can't'' solves or deal with... [[BrokenBase Much to the chargen of those who dislike conflict in the FiM loops.]]

* BrokenBase: The [=FiM=] loops has reached this status among reviewers and a few writers alike. Obviously, they're still fairly popular with writers of the loops and faithful [=FiM=] fans, but most readers of other loops often tend to groan over their appearances in the loops, especially from those who felt the series JumpedTheShark after season three. Even series fans have started to grow weary of the loops, with the [=FiM=] loopers so focused on comedy that [[{{Flanderization}} they barely resemble anything of their former selves]]. Their uncanny ability to fix any problem a looper has, [[FixerSue no matter how improbable]], is a major reason why some writers are tired of them, as they often tended to get shoehorned in to fix a problem without the head author's consent. In short, ''anything'' about the [=FiM=] is likely to spark arguments from writers and reviewers alike, and lets just leave it at that.

* FixerSue: Probably the biggest complaint the [=FiM=] branch gets, as the loopers there have an uncanny ability to fix every loopers problems no matter how deep seated they may be, often in the span of a single loop. The fact that most writers often have them fix other loopers problems without even asking the head author of the loop first. Their status as this is why the [=FiM=] loopers have slowly developed into {{Base Breaker}}s among writers and reviewers alike.

* [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter They Wasted A Perfectly Good Ascension]]: Zecora ascended to become some kind of Zebra-Alicorn through the same event that Silver Spoon ascended to become an Draconequus. Not only did this completely deprive Zecora of her own personal awesome event to ascend with (instead of piggybacking it onto Silver Spoon's), Silver's very interesting and unique situation overshadowed Zecora's so much that there have been almost zero loops of her in her 'alicorn' form.