History YMMV / TheKingsAvatar

* FandomRivalry: To ''LightNovel/SwordArtOnline'' - both feature an ExperiencedProtagonist who are experts in a MassivelyMultiplayerOnlineRolePlayingGame with incredible skills, yet alienate themselves from their respective establishments. Expect plenty of people who support ''Sword Art Online'' [[TheyCopiedItSoItSucks to brush this series off as a ripoff]], never minding that ''Sword Art Online'' has far more ScienceFantasy elements, whereas ''The King's Avatar'' has none and deliberately uses SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome and TruthInTelevision abundantly, with a focus on a UsefulNotes/ProfessionalGaming narrative. Furthermore, there's the possibility the first publication of ''The King's Avatar'' was released in 2011, ''a year'' before ''Sword Art Online'' began airing as an {{Anime}} - to some viewers, this would be popular enough to rip off.

* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Is Ye Xiu genuinely a {{Troll}} at heart or is he simply putting up a facade so other players can leave him alone during his climb back up to the top? It's implied he {{Troll}}s people for the fun of it, as this [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIZFt_7ByTg video]] suggests[[note]]Though one needs to understand Chinese[[/note]], but provided it's taken as canon, as it's set after the web novel. Essentially, [[spoiler:Du Ming confesses his attraction for Tang Rou, thus Ye Xiu and Team Happy take advantage by causing an online scandal, implying a LoveTriangle between Happy members. This draws away everyone's attention from the game, allowing Happy to steal away multiple bosses under the other professional teams' noses, with Ye Xiu's last comment at the end of the video taking the cake]].

** Huang Shaotian, largely due to {{Bishounen}} looks, playing the ComicRelief (but without being a ButtMonkey), exceptional MotorMouth skills and combat prowess.

* FandomRivalry: To ''LightNovel/SwordArtOnline'' - both feature an ExperiencedProtagonist who are experts in a MassivelyMultiplayerOnlineRolePlayingGame with incredible skills, yet alienate themselves from their respective establishments. Expect plenty of people who support ''Sword Art Online'' [[TheyCopiedItNowItSucks to brush this series off as a ripoff]], never minding that ''Sword Art Online'' has far more ScienceFantasy elements, whereas ''The King's Avatar'' has none and deliberately uses SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome and TruthInTelevision abundantly, with a focus on a UsefulNotes/ProfessionalGaming narrative. Furthermore, there's the possibility the first publication of ''The King's Avatar'' was released in 2011, ''a year'' before ''Sword Art Online'' began airing as an {{Anime}} - to some viewers, this would be popular enough to rip off.

* FriendlyFandoms: Expect fans of ''The King's Avatar'' to get along with the fandom of ''Literature/MoDaoZuShi'' - despite coming from different genres (eSports and ''[[{{Wuxia}} xianxia]][=/=][[BoysLove danmei]]'', respectively), their {{Animated Adaptation}}s serve as a GatewaySeries to ''donghua'' for Western fans (see below). Many fans who watched ''Mo Dao Zu Shi'' tend to watch ''The King's Avatar'' next or vice versa due to the shows' popularity, while sharing the same voice actors. It also helps that both have received several adaptations besides a ''donghua'', including a ''{{Manhua}}'', an audio drama, and a live-action series.

** {{Averted}} with Ye Xiu/Su Mucheng: the series has NoHuggingNoKissing in effect, thus most fans do not see any ShipTease between the two, despite how close they are, especially the revelation they aren't only ChildhoodFriends, but they share the same motive to play Glory competitively [[spoiler:because of Mucheng's {{posthumous|character}} brother Su Muqiu]]. The most their relationship can be chalked up to is LikeBrotherAndSister; emphasized when the {{Prequel}} movie, set roughly eight years before the start of ''The King's Avatar'', shows Mucheng as a child.

* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: {{Zigzagged}} with the LiveActionAdaptation - those who have read the web novels treat the {{Downplayed}} elements like dungeon-crawling as a comparatively small loss when there's over a thousand chapters to adapt for a live-action drama. However, what readers do have a problem with is the live-action omitting some of the novel's nuances (such as Ye Xiu's characterization and thought-processes regarding Glory) in favor of archetypal melodrama; understandably, these omissions were done as to not alienate a less eSports-inclined audience. Fans of the web novels agree the show did its job at telling ''The King's Avatar'', but are quick to remind viewers who haven't read the source material yet it takes certain liberties - that it's more of a PragmaticAdaptation in order to ease its audience into the topic of UsefulNotes/ProfessionalGaming.

* WinTheCrowd: Upon airing its first season, many people praised ''The King's Avatar'' for its CharacterDevelopment, while successfully adapting a story about the InUniverse video game in areas where [[Anime/{{SwordArtOnline}} some of]] [[LightNovel/{{Overlord}} the most]] [[LightNovel/LogHorizon popular examples]] in Japanese fiction have either failed to catch on or completely ignored in favor of other elements, alongside justifying and (somewhat) deconstructing its InvincibleHero, making the MassivelyMultiplayerOnline aspects feel realistic, including fluid animation that was made on a low budget.

* FandomRivalry: To ''LightNovel/SwordArtOnline'' - both feature an ExperiencedProtagonist who are experts in a MassivelyMultiplayerOnlineRolePlayingGame with incredible skills, yet alienate themselves from their respective establishments. Expect plenty of people who support ''Sword Art Online'' [[TheyCopiedItNowItSucks to brush this series off as a ripoff]], never minding that ''Sword Art Online'' has far more ScienceFantasy elements, whereas ''The King's Avatar'' has none and deliberately uses RealityEnsues and TruthInTelevision abundantly, with a focus on a UsefulNotes/ProfessionalGaming narrative. Furthermore, there's the possibility the first publication of ''The King's Avatar'' was released in 2011, ''a year'' before ''Sword Art Online'' began airing as an {{Anime}} - to some viewers, this would be popular enough to rip off.

* FunnyAneurysmMoment: In the third episode of ''SP'', Liu Hao's line of dialogue, "Why does this voice feel like it's pissing me off so much?" will likely remind viewers that the majority of {{Anime}} fans, who have grown fond of the Japanese language, showed exceptional discomfort upon hearing a Chinese dub for an animated series for the first time.

* SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome: While the prequel movie ''The King's Avatar: For the Glory'' is seen middling at best, most viewers do agree that it's very well-animated.

* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: While the prequel movie ''The King's Avatar: For the Glory'' is middling at best, most viewers do agree that it's very well-animated.

* WinTheCrowd: Upon airing its first season, many people praised ''The King's Avatar'' for its CharacterDevelopment, while successfully adapting a story about the InUniverse video game in areas where [[Anime/{{SwordArtOnline}} some of]] [[LightNovel/{{Overlord}} the most]] [[LightNovel/LogHorizon popular examples]] in Japanese fiction have either failed to catch on or completely ignored in favor of other elements, alongside justifying and (somewhat) deconstructing its InvincibleHero, making the MassivelyMultiplayerOnline aspects feel realistic, including fluid animation that was made on a low budget.

* ArchivePanic: At over ''1700'' chapters (some not even translated yet), LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters belonging to many different guilds/teams, and a whole ton of game mechanics to Glory, it's hard to chronicle all of Ye Xiu's antics without pulling off more than one read-through of the web novel.

* TranslationTrainWreck: Good luck trying to understand the English subtitles on Chinese web streaming services for the live-action when they directly translate spoken dialogue word-for-word[[note]]Avatar and team names use ''pinyin'', thus "Lord Grim" and "Excellent Era" becomes "Jun Mo Xiao" and "Jiashi", respectively, while common {{MMORPG}} lingo in Mandarin like {{Hit Point}}s being "blood" is called as such without consideration[[/note]]; Netflix would even egregiously copy those same subtitles to use for their service. This comes to a head when fans who are usually stringent about supporting ''only'' official sources will completely understand if viewers wish to watch with {{Fan Translation}}s instead.

** Similar to the animation, the live-action series: was it necessary to squeeze out dungeon-crawling aspects, render certain characters being AdaptedOut, while turning some into a {{composite|Character}} of pre-existing ones, with a heavier focus on personal drama rather than the eSports narrative like the web novels or was this inevitable like other live-action programs seen in other Asian countries like Japan and South Korea? Viewer opinions may vary, but one thing's for certain - almost all fans suggest avoiding "official translations" due to TranslationTrainWreck (or at least until its quality is rectified).

** Season two of the ''donghua'' is underway for a 2019 release: however, it being produced by a different animation studio rather than G.CMAY Animation & Film isn't sitting well with some viewers, who are wary the new studio will not follow the same quality production value G.CMAY used for the first season, while others state their successors should be a given a chance until more information for season two is unveiled.

* GatewaySeries: While there have been plenty of Chinese animated works that have tried to catch the attention of a non-Chinese audience, ''The King's Avatar'' is the first of two (the other being ''Literature/MoDaoZuShi'') to really make an impact on Western viewers because [[UsefulNotes/ProfessionalGaming of its premise]] and modern setting by doing away {{Fantasy}} and ScienceFiction entirely from other animated works influenced by the [[MassivelyMultiplayerOnlineRolePlayingGame genre]], and without relying on ''[[TrappedInAnotherWorld isekai]]-'' or StockLightNovelHero-related tropes.
* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: The animated adaptation has not gone unnoticed by Japanese audiences, many of whom state the first episode and its MediumBlending of CG and 2D animations are done exceptionally well for a Chinese animation studio, with some even calling it the best release for the Spring2017Anime season (even though it's not listed as {{Anime}}).

* LauncherOfAThousandShips: Ye Xiu has been paired with just about every character Lord Grim interacts with in Glory, including, but not limited, to Bao Rongxing, Xu Boyuan, Huang Shaotian, Wei Chen, Zhou Zekai, Wang Jiexi, Han Wenqing, [[FoeYayShipping Sun Xiang]], [[spoiler:Su Muqiu]], etc. It comes as no surprise many of his pairings are with guys when the series has a distinct lack of ShipTease between him and female characters.

* TranslationTrainWreck: Good luck trying to understand the English subtitles on Chinese web streaming services for the live-action when they directly translate spoken dialogue word-for-word[[note]]Avatar and team names use Pinyin, thus "Lord Grim" and "Excellent Era" becomes "Jun Mo Xiao" and "Jiashi", respectively, while common {{MMORPG}} lingo in Mandarin like {{Hit Point}}s being "blood" is called as such without consideration[[/note]]; Netflix would even egregiously copy those same subtitles to use for their service. This comes to a head when fans who are usually stringent about supporting ''only'' official sources will completely understand if viewers wish to watch with {{Fan Translation}}s instead.

* FriendlyFandoms: Surprisingly, the fans of ''The King's Avatar'' get along very well with the fandom of ''Literature/MoDaoZuShi'' despite the genres and stories of both novels being completely different from each other, as their {{Animated Adaptation}}s serve as a GatewaySeries to ''donghua'' for Western fans (see below). Many fans who watched ''Mo Dao Zu Shi'' tend to watch ''The King's Avatar'' next or the other way around due to the shows' popularity and both works sharing many voice actors. It also helps that both have received several adaptations besides a ''donghua''; including a ''manhua'', an audio drama, and a live-action series.

* GatewaySeries: While there have been plenty of Chinese animated works that have tried to catch the attention of a non-Chinese audience, ''The King's Avatar'' is the first of two (the other being ''Literature/MoDaoZuShi'') to really make an impact on Western viewers because [[UsefulNotes/ProfessionalGaming of its premise]] and modern setting by doing away traditional {{Fantasy}} and ScienceFiction entirely from other animated works influenced by the [[MassivelyMultiplayerOnlineRolePlayingGame genre]].

* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: "Faith" (信仰), the opening song from the AnimatedAdaptation, a {{Wuxia}}-inspired theme that perfectly sets up the atmosphere of the ''donghua'', the InUniverse MassivelyMultiplayerOnlineRolePlayingGame "Glory" and the general eSports setting; likewise, "Light From The Ashes" (来自尘埃的光), the opening theme of the LiveActionAdaptation, evokes the same feeling.

* CantUnhearIt: Expect plenty of criticisms from viewers of the animated adaptation (primarily non-Chinese audiences) to state how uncomfortable or unexpected it is to hear Chinese dialogue when most animated works from Asia are produced by a Japanese studio using a Japanese voice cast. {{Irony}} ensues when the producers recycled some of the same voice actors from the animation into the live-action by ''dubbing over their actors''.

* EnsembleDarkhorse

* FriendlyFandoms: Surprisingly, the fans of ''The King's Avatar'' get along very well with the fandom of ''Literature/MoDaoZuShi'' despite the genres and stories of both novels being completely different from each other, as their {{Animated Adaptation}}s serve as a GatewaySeries to ''donghua'' for Western fans (see below). Many fans who watched the ''donghua'' of ''Mo Dao Zu Shi'' tend to watch ''The King's Avatar'' next or the other way around due to the shows' popularity and both works sharing many voice actors. Similarly, both have received several adaptations besides a ''donghua''; including a ''manhua'', an audio drama, and a live-action series.

* FriendlyFandoms: Surprisingly, the fans of ''The King's Avatar'' get along very well with the fandom of ''Mo Dao Zu Shi'' despite the genres and stories of both novels being completely different from each other, as their {{Animated Adaptation}}s serve as a GatewaySeries to ''donghua'' for Western fans (see above). Many fans who watched the ''donghua'' of ''Mo Dao Zu Shi'' tend to watch ''The King's Avatar'' next or the other way around due to the shows' popularity and both works sharing many voice actors. Similarly, both have received several adaptations besides a ''donghua''; including a ''manhua'', an audio drama, and a live-action series.

* ItsEasySoItSucks: InUniverse, Tang Rou gets bored with "easy" games. She starts taking Glory seriously after getting thoroughly beaten by Ye Xiu in [=PvP=], who claims there's nothing "easy" about Glory.

* ThatOneLevel: InUniverse, [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin underwater stages]] - most players are plain bad at them.

** Similar to the animation, the live-action series: was it necessary to squeeze out dungeon-crawling aspects, render certain characters being AdaptedOut, while turning some into a {{composite|Character}} of pre-existing ones, with a heavier focus on personal drama rather than the eSports narrative like the web novels or was this inevitable like other live-action programs seen in other Asian countries like Japan and South Korea? Viewer opinions may vary, but one thing's for certain - almost all fans suggest avoiding the show streaming on Creator/{{Netflix}} due to its TranslationTrainWreck.
* CantUnhearIt: Expect plenty of criticisms from viewers of the animated adaptation (primarily non-Chinese audiences) to state how uncomfortable or unexpected it is to hear Chinese dialogue when most animated works from Asia are produced by a Japanese studio using a Japanese voice cast. {{Irony}} ensues the producers recycled some of the same voice actors from the animation into the live-action by ''dubbing over their actors''.

** In a meta-example, the show turned into this for the Spring2017Anime season, due to coming from an unknown animation studio and the sole Chinese publication that could have easily been swept under the rug, did it not garner good word-of-mouth from social media and viewers.

* FandomRivalry: To ''LightNovel/SwordArtOnline'' - both feature an ExperiencedProtagonist who are experts in a MassivelyMultiplayerOnlineRolePlayingGame with incredible skills, yet alienate themselves from their respective establishments. Expect plenty of people who support ''Sword Art Online'' [[TheyCopiedItNowItSucks to brush this series off as a ripoff]], never minding that ''Sword Art Online'' has far more ScienceFantasy elements, whereas ''The King's Avatar'' has none and deliberately uses RealityEnsues and TruthInTelevision abundantly, with a focus on UsefulNotes/ProfessionalGaming. Furthermore, there's the possibility the first publication of ''The King's Avatar'' was released in 2011, ''a year'' before ''Sword Art Online'' began airing as an {{Anime}} - to some viewers, this would be popular enough to rip off.

* GatewaySeries: While there have been plenty of Chinese animated works that have tried to catch the attention of a non-Chinese audience, ''The King's Avatar'' seems to be the first of two (the other being ''Literature/MoDaoZuShi'') to really make an impact on Western viewers because [[UsefulNotes/ProfessionalGaming of its premise]] and modern setting by doing away traditional {{Fantasy}} and ScienceFiction entirely from other animated works influenced by the [[MassivelyMultiplayerOnlineRolePlayingGame genre]].

* TranslationTrainWreck: Unless you know how to understand and read Chinese, you'll have terrible luck trying to understand at least three-fourths of the dialogue in the live-action drama using the English subtitles. This reaches the extent where the fans who are usually stringent about supporting ''only'' the official sources are completely understanding if other viewers wish to watch with fansubs instead.

* TranslationTrainWreck: Unless you know how to understand and read Chinese, you'll have terrible luck trying to understand at least half the dialogue in the live-action drama thanks to some shoddy translations. This reaches the extent where the fans who are usually stringent about supporting ''only'' the official sources are completely understanding if other viewers wish to watch with fansubs instead.

* ShippingGoggles

* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: "Faith" (信仰), the first opening of the donghua, is a medieval-esque theme that perfectly sets up the atmosphere of both the donghua and its InUniverse game Glory. "Light from Dust" (来自尘埃的光), the opening theme of the LiveActionAdaptation, evokes the same feeling.

** Quite a few fans of the web novel have stated the AnimatedAdaptation went too fast with its episodes by not properly adapting the chapters, citing how the animation studio wan't developing the game, its mechanics and setting more. However, those who haven't read the novel and started with the animation first believe it's fine, and that it provided an incentive for viewers to start reading the web novel to fully enjoy ''The King's Avatar''.
** Season two of the animated adaptation is underway for a 2019 release: however, it being produced by a different animation studio rather than G.CMAY Animation & Film isn't sitting well with some viewers, who are wary the new studio will not follow the same quality production value G.CMAY used for the first season, while others state their successors should be a given a chance until more information for season two is unveiled.
** Tying in with the above, the 3-episode original net animation brought mixed reactions to the "One Autumn Leaf" avatar having [[RuleOfSymbolism Sun Xiang's face rather than Ye Xiu's]]: is it a good way of showing the fact the avatar is, of course, no longer Ye Xiu's or is the previous symbolism of the avatar still belonging to Ye Xiu in spirit just fine and it's an UnnecessaryMakeover?

* FunnyAneurysmMoment: In the third episode of the [=ONA=], Liu Hao's line of dialogue, "Why does this voice feel like it's pissing me off so much?" will likely remind viewers that the majority of {{Anime}} fans, who have grown fond of the Japanese language, showed exceptional discomfort upon hearing a Chinese dub for an animated series for the first time.

* UncannyValley: The CG animations for the game sequences in the LiveActionAdaptation. It's not poorly animated in any way, although one can't deny that the facial animations of the characters' avatars can look somewhat off-putting at times.

* UncannyValley: The CG animations for the game sequences in the LiveActionAdaptation. It's not poorly animated in any way, although one can't deny that the facial animations of the characters' avatars can look somewhat off-putting most of the time.

* ArchivePanic: At over ''1700'' chapters (some not even translated yet), LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters belonging to many different guilds/teams, and a whole ton of game mechanics to Glory, it's hard to chronicle all of Ye Xiu's antics without pulling off more than one read-through.

** The web novel, {{Manhua}}, and animation never seem to stick to one appearance for every character, leading to discussions over which incarnation is better.
** Quite a few fans of the web novel have stated the AnimatedAdaptation went too fast with its episodes by not properly adapting the chapters, citing how the animation studio wan't developing the game, its mechanics and setting more. However, those who haven't read the novel and started with the animated adaptation first believe it's fine, and that it provided an incentive for viewers to start reading the web novel to fully enjoy ''The King's Avatar''.

** Tying in with the above, the preview of the 2018 original net animation brought mixed reactions to the "One Autumn Leaf" avatar having [[RuleOfSymbolism Sun Xiang's face rather than Ye Xiu's]]: is it a good way of showing the fact the avatar is, of course, no longer Ye Xiu's, or is the previous symbolism of the avatar still belonging to Ye Xiu in spirit just fine and it's an UnnecessaryMakeover?
* CantUnhearIt: Expect plenty of criticisms from viewers of the animated adaptation (primarily non-Chinese audiences) to state how uncomfortable or unexpected it is to hear Chinese dialogue when most animated works from Asia are produced by a Japanese studio using a Japanese voice cast.

* GatewaySeries: While there have been plenty of other Chinese animated works that have tried to catch the attention of a non-Chinese audience, ''The King's Avatar'' seems to be the first to really make an impact on Western viewers because [[UsefulNotes/ProfessionalGaming of its premise]] and setting by doing away traditional {{Fantasy}} and ScienceFiction entirely from other animated works influenced by the [[MassivelyMultiplayerOnlineRolePlayingGame genre]].

* LauncherOfAThousandShips: Ye Xiu has been paired with just about every character Lord Grim interacts with in Glory, including, but not limited, to Bao Rongxing, Xu Boyuan, Huang Shaotian, Zhou Zekai, Wang Jiexi, Han Wenqing, [[FoeYayShipping Sun Xiang]], [[spoiler:Su Muqiu]], etc. It comes as no surprise many of his pairings are with guys when the series has a lack of ShipTease between him and female characters.

* WinTheCrowd: Upon airing its first season, many people praised ''The King's Avatar'' for its CharacterDevelopment, while successfully adapting a story about the InUniverse video game in areas where [[Anime/{{SwordArtOnline}} some of]] [[LightNovel/{{Overlord}} the most]] [[LightNovel/LogHorizon popular examples]] in Japanese fiction have either failed to catch on or ignored, alongside justifying and (somewhat) deconstructing its InvincibleHero, making the MassivelyMultiplayerOnline elements feel realistic, including fluid animation that was made on a low budget.

* FunnyAneurysmMoment: In the third episode of the [=OVA=], Liu Hao's line of dialogue, "Why does this voice feel like it's pissing me off so much?" will likely remind viewers that the majority of {{Anime}} fans, who have grown fond of the Japanese language, showed exceptional discomfort upon hearing a Chinese dub for an animated series for the first time.