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* MisaimedMarketing: A children's book series has Hulk going around making friends and helping people. He's never angry and always huge and green. A sweet, [[TheVoiceless silent]] guy.

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* InformedWrongness: Writers have a habit of painting anyone who reacts negatively to the Hulk's destructive temper as being in the wrong. Thaddeus Ross is the most frequent victim of this but even other superheroes aren't immune:
** ''ComicBook/WorldWarHulk'': The decision of the Illuminati (Iron Man, Mr Fantastic, Blackbolt, Charles Xavier and Dr. Strange) [[ComicBook/PlanetHulk to shoot the Hulk into outer space]] is treated as an unforgivable crime and a terrible betrayal of a close friend, ally and hero. Except the impetus for the Illuminati's decision was the Hulk going on a rampage which killed 26 people. This was also a period in which [[ComicBook/CivilWar2006 anti-superhero political forces were just LOOKING for an excuse to enact registration laws.]] Exiling him was being pretty lenient and arguably doing him a favor since "Leave Hulk alone" is one of the Hulk's catchphrases. That's not even getting into the fact that the Illuminati [[spoiler:were innocent of planting a bomb in the ship Hulk was in which was the reason for the Hulk's RoaringRampageOfRevenge in the first place.]]
** ''Giant-Size Hulk #1'': The story "Green Pieces" has the Champions of Los-Angeles (Black Widow, Iceman, Hercules, Darkstar, Ghost Rider and Angel) about to be recommended for freeing the U.S from the mind control of Dr Doom in an older story when they receive word that Banner is back in town. Knowing what tends to happen when the Hulk is around, they scout the city for him. Angel encounters him first when Banner [[HulkingOut hulks out]] in the middle of a traffic jam. The Hulk throws a car door at Angel who has to intercept it from hitting a nearby couple. The other Champions arrive and engage the Hulk until he decides to leave for a hospital and turn over a woman who was in the car to the doctors. This woman turns out to be Jennifer Walters, Banner's cousin and after her surgery she explains that Bruce was trying to get her to the hospital after her appendix burst. When Hercules asks why the Hulk did not simply explain his troubles, Jen responds that the Champions never tried to ask him what his problem was. The story tries to make it look like the Champions jumped to conclusions and attacked the Hulk without cause but the Hulk did not make himself look sympathetic by attacking the first person who approached him and endangering nearby civilians. Hell, considering that Jen was ''in the car'' when Banner hulked out, it's a miracle she was still alive when he got her to the hospital.
** Skaar, Son Of The Hulk, was hit with this really hard throughout his entire miniseries. The narration and tone constantly informed us that he was pure evil. And while he certainly did a few [[WellIntentionedExtremist morally dubious things in his quest to stop the slavers and slaughterers rampaging across the planet]], they were phrased in such overblown ways to make them seem worse than they were that it just seemed melodramatic (with one of his "worst" offenses being a ''bluff'' of PayEvilUntoEvil). This culminated in Skaar being wrong for ''not wanting Comicbook/{{Galactus}} to eat his planet'' because, apparently, Galactus eating the planet was for the greater good... keep in mind, Earth superheroes regularly bluff Galactus with '''destroying the entire universe''' to make him leave Earth alone, which means he just goes off and eats someone else's planet.

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Writers have a habit of painting anyone who reacts negatively to the Hulk's destructive temper as being in the wrong. Thaddeus Ross is the most frequent victim of this but even other superheroes aren't immune:
** *** ''ComicBook/WorldWarHulk'': The decision of the Illuminati (Iron Man, Mr Fantastic, Blackbolt, Black Bolt, Charles Xavier and Dr. Strange) [[ComicBook/PlanetHulk to shoot the Hulk into outer space]] is treated as an unforgivable crime and a terrible betrayal of a close friend, ally and hero. Except the impetus for the Illuminati's decision was the Hulk going on a rampage which killed 26 people. This was also a period in which [[ComicBook/CivilWar2006 anti-superhero political forces were just LOOKING for an excuse to enact had enacted very strict registration laws.]] laws]] in the wake of another destructive incident caused by superheroes. Exiling him was being pretty lenient and arguably doing him a favor since "Leave Hulk alone" is one of the Hulk's catchphrases. That's not even getting into the fact that the Illuminati [[spoiler:were were innocent of planting a bomb in the ship Hulk was in which was the reason for the Hulk's RoaringRampageOfRevenge in the first place.]]
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''Giant-Size Hulk #1'': The story "Green Pieces" has the Champions of Los-Angeles (Black Widow, Iceman, Hercules, Darkstar, Ghost Rider and Angel) about to be recommended for freeing the U.S from the mind control of Dr Doom in an older story when they receive word that Banner is back in town. Knowing what tends to happen when the Hulk is around, they scout the city for him. Angel encounters him first when Banner [[HulkingOut hulks out]] in the middle of a traffic jam. The Hulk throws a car door at Angel who has to intercept it from hitting a nearby couple. The other Champions arrive and engage the Hulk until he decides to leave for a hospital and turn over a woman who was in the car to the doctors. This woman turns out to be Jennifer Walters, Banner's cousin and after her surgery she explains that Bruce was trying to get her to the hospital after her appendix burst. When Hercules asks why the Hulk did not simply explain his troubles, Jen responds that the Champions never tried to ask him what his problem was. The story tries to make it look like the Champions jumped to conclusions and attacked the Hulk without cause but the Hulk did not make himself look sympathetic by attacking the first person who approached him and endangering nearby civilians. Hell, And considering that Jen was ''in the car'' when Banner hulked out, it's a miracle she was still alive when he got her to the hospital.
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** Skaar, Skarr, Son Of The Hulk, was hit with this really hard throughout his entire miniseries. The narration and tone constantly informed us that he was pure evil. And while he certainly did a few [[WellIntentionedExtremist morally dubious things in his quest to stop the slavers and slaughterers rampaging across the planet]], they were phrased in such overblown ways to make them seem worse than they were that it just seemed melodramatic (with one of his "worst" offenses being a ''bluff'' of PayEvilUntoEvil). This culminated in Skaar Skarr being wrong for ''not wanting Comicbook/{{Galactus}} ComicBook/{{Galactus}} to eat his planet'' because, apparently, Galactus eating the planet was for the greater good... keep in mind, Earth superheroes regularly bluff Galactus with '''destroying the entire universe''' to make him leave Earth alone, which means he just goes off and eats someone else's planet.
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* EvilIsCool: Pretty much any villain who can go toe to toe with the freaking Hulk, either in terms of power or intellect. Some stand-outs include the Leader, Abomination, Xemnu, Zzaxx, the U-Foes, the Puff Ball Collective, the Maestro, the Devil Hulk, and the One-Below-All. Notably, the former two are versions of Hulk himself, and Devil actually became an Anti-Hero thanks to ''Immortal Hulk''.
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** ''ComicBook/WorldWarHulk'': The decision of the Illuminati (Iron Man, Mr Fantastic, Blackbolt, Charles Xavier and Dr. Strange) [[ComicBook/PlanetHulk to shoot the Hulk into outer space]] is treated as an unforgivable crime and a terrible betrayal of a close friend, ally and hero. Except the impetus for the Illuminati's decision was the Hulk going on a rampage which killed 26 people. This was also a period in which [[ComicBook/CivilWar anti-superhero political forces were just LOOKING for an excuse to enact registration laws.]] Exiling him was being pretty lenient and arguably doing him a favor since "Leave Hulk alone" is one of the Hulk's catchphrases. That's not even getting into the fact that the Illuminati [[spoiler:were innocent of planting a bomb in the ship Hulk was in which was the reason for the Hulk's RoaringRampageOfRevenge in the first place.]]

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** ''ComicBook/WorldWarHulk'': The decision of the Illuminati (Iron Man, Mr Fantastic, Blackbolt, Charles Xavier and Dr. Strange) [[ComicBook/PlanetHulk to shoot the Hulk into outer space]] is treated as an unforgivable crime and a terrible betrayal of a close friend, ally and hero. Except the impetus for the Illuminati's decision was the Hulk going on a rampage which killed 26 people. This was also a period in which [[ComicBook/CivilWar [[ComicBook/CivilWar2006 anti-superhero political forces were just LOOKING for an excuse to enact registration laws.]] Exiling him was being pretty lenient and arguably doing him a favor since "Leave Hulk alone" is one of the Hulk's catchphrases. That's not even getting into the fact that the Illuminati [[spoiler:were innocent of planting a bomb in the ship Hulk was in which was the reason for the Hulk's RoaringRampageOfRevenge in the first place.]]



** A good one was during ''ComicBook/CivilWar'', where fans would state "I'm with [[ComicBook/IronMan Tony]]" or "I'm with [[ComicBook/CaptainAmerica Steve]]". A third camp popped up, stating "You're all fucked when the Hulk gets back!", a reference to Hulk's imminent return from the then-ongoing ''ComicBook/PlanetHulk'' storyline.

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** A good one was during ''ComicBook/CivilWar'', ''ComicBook/{{Civil War|2006}}'', where fans would state "I'm with [[ComicBook/IronMan Tony]]" or "I'm with [[ComicBook/CaptainAmerica Steve]]". A third camp popped up, stating "You're all fucked when the Hulk gets back!", a reference to Hulk's imminent return from the then-ongoing ''ComicBook/PlanetHulk'' storyline.
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* EvilIsCool:The Leader,Abomination,Red Hulk,and Maestro.

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* StrawmanHasAPoint: In ''ComicBook/WorldWarHulk'', the Illuminati get a number of "WhatTheHellHero" speeches from other characters for [[ComicBook/PlanetHulk shooting the Hulk into outer space]] and allegedly planting a bomb in his ship that killed Hulk's wife and child. The latter is unforgivable but the former can be excused by the impetus for the decision being Hulk's rampage in Las Vegas which got about 22 people killed. This was also a period in which [[ComicBook/CivilWar anti-superhero political forces were just LOOKING for an excuse to enact registration laws.]] Exiling him was being pretty lenient and arguably doing him a favor since "Leave Hulk alone" is one of the Hulk's catchphrases. And the Illuminati only end up looking even more like [[DesignatedVillain designated villains]] when it is revealed [[spoiler:that the bomb that killed Hulk's wife was not planted by them but by loyalists of the Red King who wanted revenge against the Hulk for overthrowing their leader and that Miek, one of Hulk's new friends, knew about this but didn't tell Hulk because he wanted him to become the [[PersonOfMassDestruction Worldbreaker.]]]]

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* StrawmanHasAPoint: In ''ComicBook/WorldWarHulk'', the Illuminati get a number of "WhatTheHellHero" speeches from other characters for [[ComicBook/PlanetHulk shooting the Hulk into outer space]] and allegedly planting a bomb in his ship that killed Hulk's wife and child. The latter is unforgivable but the former can be excused by the impetus for the decision being Hulk's rampage in Las Vegas which got about 22 people killed. This was also a period in which [[ComicBook/CivilWar [[ComicBook/CivilWar2006 anti-superhero political forces were just LOOKING for an excuse to enact registration laws.]] Exiling him was being pretty lenient and arguably doing him a favor since "Leave Hulk alone" is one of the Hulk's catchphrases. And the Illuminati only end up looking even more like [[DesignatedVillain designated villains]] when it is revealed [[spoiler:that the bomb that killed Hulk's wife was not planted by them but by loyalists of the Red King who wanted revenge against the Hulk for overthrowing their leader and that Miek, one of Hulk's new friends, knew about this but didn't tell Hulk because he wanted him to become the [[PersonOfMassDestruction Worldbreaker.]]]]


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* ToughActToFollow: Peter David wrote Hulk for twelve years, so naturally anyone was going to have a tough time replacing him. Joe Casey even begins the final issue of his six issue run practically smashing through the fourth wall to point out the deck was stacked against him from the start on that one.
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*** I always figured it came from Brian Banner telling Bruce in his childhood that humanity would never accept him and that he was a monster (yes, even baby human Bruce). So all of his alters would internalize the fact that humanity is the enemy, even if they don't want to think of it that way.
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* EvilIsCool:The Leader,Abomination,Red Hulk,and Maestro.
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** Skarr, Son Of The Hulk, was hit with this really hard throughout his entire miniseries. The narration and tone constantly informed us that he was pure evil. And while he certainly did a few [[WellIntentionedExtremist morally dubious things in his quest to stop the slavers and slaughterers rampaging across the planet]], they were phrased in such overblown ways to make them seem worse than they were that it just seemed melodramatic (with one of his "worst" offenses being a ''bluff'' of PayEvilUntoEvil). This culminated in Skarr being wrong for ''not wanting Comicbook/{{Galactus}} to eat his planet'' because, apparently, Galactus eating the planet was for the greater good... keep in mind, Earth superheroes regularly bluff Galactus with '''destroying the entire universe''' to make him leave Earth alone, which means he just goes off and eats someone else's planet.

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** Skarr, Skaar, Son Of The Hulk, was hit with this really hard throughout his entire miniseries. The narration and tone constantly informed us that he was pure evil. And while he certainly did a few [[WellIntentionedExtremist morally dubious things in his quest to stop the slavers and slaughterers rampaging across the planet]], they were phrased in such overblown ways to make them seem worse than they were that it just seemed melodramatic (with one of his "worst" offenses being a ''bluff'' of PayEvilUntoEvil). This culminated in Skarr Skaar being wrong for ''not wanting Comicbook/{{Galactus}} to eat his planet'' because, apparently, Galactus eating the planet was for the greater good... keep in mind, Earth superheroes regularly bluff Galactus with '''destroying the entire universe''' to make him leave Earth alone, which means he just goes off and eats someone else's planet.
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** Chances are you would read the Red Hulks lines in either Creator/SamElliott or Creator/WilliamHurt's voices, or even Creator/ClancyBrown for either identity.

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** Chances are you would read the General Thunderbolt Ross/the Red Hulks Hulk's lines in either Creator/SamElliott or Creator/WilliamHurt's voices, or even Creator/ClancyBrown for either identity.
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** Chances are you're reading Hulk stuff (including the SelfDemonstrating [[SelfDemonstrating/TheIncredibleHulk page]]) in Creator/FredTatasciore's Hulk voice. Creator/LouFerrigno is another candidate. For Banner himself, there's Creator/GabrielMann (''WesternAnimation/WolverineAndTheXMen2009'' and ''WesternAnimation/TheAvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes''), Creator/EricBana (''Film/{{Hulk}}''), Creator/EdwardNorton (''Film/{{The Incredible Hulk|2008}}''), or Creator/MarkRuffalo (the greater Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse).

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** Chances are you're reading Hulk stuff (including the SelfDemonstrating [[SelfDemonstrating/TheIncredibleHulk page]]) in Creator/FredTatasciore's Hulk voice. Creator/LouFerrigno is another candidate. For Banner himself, there's Creator/GabrielMann (''WesternAnimation/WolverineAndTheXMen2009'' and ''WesternAnimation/TheAvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes''), Creator/EricBana (''Film/{{Hulk}}''), Creator/EdwardNorton (''Film/{{The Incredible Hulk|2008}}''), or Creator/MarkRuffalo (the greater Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse).Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse) or even Creator/BillBixby (''Series/TheIncredibleHulk1977'').

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* DamselScrappy: Rick Jones was this from his first appearance, in which he stupidly drove out into an active military testing site, causing Bruce Banner being subjected to Gamma radiation while saving him, turning him into the Hulk. This tendency tends to annoy the Hulk, especially during his grey, intelligent phases, and is lampshaded by Rick himself in one issue where he manages to beat his captor and escape on his own.



* GrowingTheBeard: The original six issue run of ''Incredible Hulk'' is, in all honesty, not some of Stan Lee and Jack Kirby's best works by... well, any metric. (Thrill as the unstoppable Hulk faces the savage might of, er, the Toad Men! Or the Ringmaster and his Circus of CRIME!) Not helping is that the Hulk's nature and powers shift wildly from issue to issue. A guest appearance in ''Tales to Astonish'' establishes the "hulks out when angry" part, and then the Hulk's following feature in that title goes on to establish all the things usually associated with Big Green (foes like The Leader and the Abomination, Bruce's status as a fugitive from the world, and Hulk's lack of intelligence and simple desire to be left alone).


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* GenreTurningPoint: The Hulk got a lot of attention as an ambiguous hero who was neither entirely a superhero nor entirely a monster, and his series pushed the boundaries of the Comics Code Authority by depicting the United States military as antagonists (the Code stipulated that comic books couldn't portray respected organizations in a negative light). With his anger, his inherently flawed nature, and his troubled relationship with authority figures, he also went on to become a counterculture icon, showing the potential for superheroes to act as a voice for the youth.
* GrowingTheBeard: The original six issue run of ''Incredible Hulk'' is, in all honesty, not some of Stan Lee and Jack Kirby's best works by... well, any metric. (Thrill as the unstoppable Hulk faces the savage might of, er, the Toad Men! Or the Ringmaster and his Circus of CRIME!) Not helping is that the Hulk's nature and powers shift wildly from issue to issue. A guest appearance in ''Tales to Astonish'' establishes the "hulks out when angry" part, and then the Hulk's following feature in that title goes on to establish all the things usually associated with Big Green (foes like The Leader and the Abomination, Bruce's status as a fugitive from the world, and Hulk's lack of intelligence and simple desire to be left alone).


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* InferredHolocaust: Although the Hulk is ostensibly a hero, many of his UnstoppableRage rampages have caused enormous and widespread destruction, which raises the question of exactly how many innocents have lost their lives as collateral damage. As it stands, only a single Hulk rampage (Incredible Hulk #300, which in Hulk's defense, was the result of Hulk being {{Mind Rape}}d by Nightmare, and all of Earth's heroes knew this) led to deaths (the number varies but as of ''Civil War'', the count is 26 dead men and women and one dog). Lampshading this is Amadeus Cho hypothesizing that the lack of carnage in every other Hulk rampage save the one from Hulk #300 is because [[NoEndorHolocaust underneath it all, the Hulk still retains Banner's super-math skills, maybe even to a greater degree than Banner, and so he's able to predict the trajectory of all the debris he sends flying and make sure it never hits anybody (Cho himself has a similar ability to instantly calculate trajectories)]]. Even so, the Hulk's rampages still ruin people's lives, as shown by Jackie [=McGee's=] backstory in ''ComicBook/ImmortalHulk'' -- her father worked himself to death trying to rebuild their lives after the Hulk destroyed their neighbourhood. How many more like Jackie's father the Hulk's left in his wake is unknown, and probably unknowable.


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* IronWoobie:
** Bruce Banner was abused as a child, turned into a green monster, endured the death of ''three'' wives, chased around the world by the Army, shot into space, enslaved by an alien empire, loses the empire once he conquers it, has his RoaringRampageOfRevenge crushed by a HeelRealization, and fails to save one of his troubled sons. Man it ''SUCKS'' to be a big green badass.
** How bad does Banner's life suck? In ''ComicBook/ImmortalHulk'' one issue of the series draws direct parallels between Bruce and Job. You know, the guy in Literature/TheBible whose life God absolutely and completely destroyed (Home destroyed, livelihood destroyed, family destroyed, riddled with ailments, etc.) as a test proposed by Satan to prove Job's loyalty to God was not bought. Yes, Bruce's life is so awful and absolutely f*#@ed that he can be compared to a guy who is the posterchild for human misery and being a CosmicPlayThing.
** And, oddly enough, the Hulk himself, as depicted in ''ComicBook/HulkTheEnd''.
--->'''Hulk''': [[spoiler: For years... forever... Hulk has listened to Banner, and Banner's friends, talking about how Hulk ruined Banner's life! Hulk made Banner's life! Banner was nothing before Hulk... nothing!...Hulk doesn't want friends, because friends will hurt him. Everyone hurts him. Everyone hurts Hulk.]]


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* MisaimedMarketing: A children's book series has Hulk going around making friends and helping people. He's never angry and always huge and green. A sweet, [[TheVoiceless silent]] guy.


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* NeverLiveItDown: Umar will, understandably, never live down the fact she once raped the Hulk. It doesn't help that this instance was played for laughs when Hulk had been the victim of both an attempted ''and'' a successful rape before, and they were rightfully shown to be the horrible, traumatizing events they were.
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* RootingForTheEmpire: Zeus gained quite a lot of MemeticBadass Internet credibility due to beating the Hulk, despite hardly being the best person himself. Most of it stemmed from fans being afraid that Hulk was getting a little ''[[GodModeSue too]]'' strong for his own good, so Zeus setting a hard limit on the Jade Giant's power level and driving home that he is far from unbeatable was really appreciated.

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* RootingForTheEmpire: Zeus gained quite a lot of MemeticBadass Internet credibility due to beating the Hulk, despite hardly being the best person himself. Most of it stemmed from fans being afraid that Hulk was getting a little ''[[GodModeSue too]]'' ''too'' strong for his own good, so Zeus setting a hard limit on the Jade Giant's power level and driving home that he is far from unbeatable was really appreciated.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Jeff Parker got a ''lot'' of good stories out of the Ross family after Loeb left the books.
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** Gamma mutated rattlesnake Rattilore only appears in one issue, but is well-liked for leading a tribe of animals affected by the gamma rays in cool ways, and for being a kind but wise leader who knows to OptOut of the conflict between Hulk and the military to save his tribe from bloodshed.
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** Related to that, a ClueFromEd in What If? Issue #2 ("What if the Hulk retained the mind of Bruce Banner?") said that the original events were chronicled in "the immortal Hulk #1", which is... [[NamesTheSame confusing]] now.

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** Related to that, a ClueFromEd in What If? Issue #2 ("What if the Hulk retained the mind of Bruce Banner?") said that the original events were chronicled in "the immortal Hulk #1", which is... [[NamesTheSame confusing]] confusing now.
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** ''ComicBook/WorldWarHulk'': The decision of the Illuminati (Iron Man, Mr Fantastic, Blackbolt, Charles Xavier and Dr. Strange) [[ComicBook/PlanetHulk to shoot the Hulk into outer space]] is treated as an unforgivable crime and a terrible betrayal of a close friend, ally and hero. Except the impetus for the Illuminati's decision was the Hulk going on a rampage which killed about 22 people. This was also a period in which [[ComicBook/CivilWar anti-superhero political forces were just LOOKING for an excuse to enact registration laws.]] Exiling him was being pretty lenient and arguably doing him a favor since "Leave Hulk alone" is one of the Hulk's catchphrases. That's not even getting into the fact that the Illuminati [[spoiler:were innocent of planting a bomb in the ship Hulk was in which was the reason for the Hulk's RoaringRampageOfRevenge in the first place.]]

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** ''ComicBook/WorldWarHulk'': The decision of the Illuminati (Iron Man, Mr Fantastic, Blackbolt, Charles Xavier and Dr. Strange) [[ComicBook/PlanetHulk to shoot the Hulk into outer space]] is treated as an unforgivable crime and a terrible betrayal of a close friend, ally and hero. Except the impetus for the Illuminati's decision was the Hulk going on a rampage which killed about 22 26 people. This was also a period in which [[ComicBook/CivilWar anti-superhero political forces were just LOOKING for an excuse to enact registration laws.]] Exiling him was being pretty lenient and arguably doing him a favor since "Leave Hulk alone" is one of the Hulk's catchphrases. That's not even getting into the fact that the Illuminati [[spoiler:were innocent of planting a bomb in the ship Hulk was in which was the reason for the Hulk's RoaringRampageOfRevenge in the first place.]]
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* TakeThatScrappy: Once the Red Hulk makes a HeelFaceTurn, Thor and Galactus decide to beat him up in retaliation. The moment where Red Hulk wields Mjolnir is handwaved in that he picked it up in space where there is no gravity and turns out he can't lift it on the surfaces of planets.

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* TakeThatScrappy: Once the Red Hulk makes a HeelFaceTurn, Thor Thor, Iron Man and Galactus Namor decide to beat him up in retaliation. The moment where Red Hulk wields Mjolnir is handwaved in that he picked it up in space where there is no gravity and turns out he can't lift it on the surfaces of planets.

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* CompleteMonster: See [[Monster/MarvelComics here]].
** ''Franchise/TheIncredibleHulk: What Savage Beast'', by Creator/PeterDavid: [[FutureMeScaresMe The Maestro]] is a corrupt future version of the Hulk and the [[EvilOverlord dictator]] of a [[AfterTheEnd post-apocalyptic world]], killing anyone who opposes him and taking any woman who catches his fancy as a SexSlave. Maestro kidnaps Skooter, a freedom fighter who works for an elderly Rick Jones, and [[MindRape forcibly scans Skooter's mind]] to learn the location of Rick's encampment, where he kills everybody there. Maestro then breaks Skooter's legs and performs taxidermy on Rick for defying him, and takes from Rick a gem called the Timeond, which he uses to visit a different dimension, where an intelligent Hulk lives with Betty Ross in secret. Maestro, [[KillAndReplace as elderly scientist Amos Trotter]], offers to cure the Hulk, in order to get close to Betty, who is about to give birth. Betty gives birth to a child named Brett and Maestro reveals his true colors, kidnapping Brett and returning to his own dimension, where he raises Brett to be as cruel as he is. When the Hulk comes to the Maestro's dimension and gets help from another rebel encampment, Maestro orders everyone in the rebel camp to be slaughtered. Maestro has been using the Timeond to recruit Hulks from various timelines to become his army and plans to go to the Hulk's dimension to ravage it, [[OmnicidalManiac killing millions in the process]]. When Brett opposes this genocidal scheme, [[OffingTheOffspring Maestro tries to kill him]].

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* CompleteMonster: See [[Monster/MarvelComics here]].
** ''Franchise/TheIncredibleHulk: What Savage Beast'', by Creator/PeterDavid: [[FutureMeScaresMe The Maestro]] is a corrupt future version of the Hulk and the [[EvilOverlord dictator]] of a [[AfterTheEnd post-apocalyptic world]], killing anyone who opposes him and taking any woman who catches his fancy as a SexSlave. Maestro kidnaps Skooter, a freedom fighter who works for an elderly Rick Jones, and [[MindRape forcibly scans Skooter's mind]] to learn the location of Rick's encampment, where he kills everybody there. Maestro then breaks Skooter's legs and performs taxidermy on Rick for defying him, and takes from Rick a gem called the Timeond, which he uses to visit a different dimension, where an intelligent Hulk lives with Betty Ross in secret. Maestro, [[KillAndReplace as elderly scientist Amos Trotter]], offers to cure the Hulk, in order to get close to Betty, who is about to give birth. Betty gives birth to a child named Brett and Maestro reveals his true colors, kidnapping Brett and returning to his own dimension, where he raises Brett to be as cruel as he is. When the Hulk comes to the Maestro's dimension and gets help from another rebel encampment, Maestro orders everyone in the rebel camp to be slaughtered. Maestro has been using the Timeond to recruit Hulks from various timelines to become his army and plans to go to the Hulk's dimension to ravage it, [[OmnicidalManiac killing millions in the process]]. When Brett opposes this genocidal scheme, [[OffingTheOffspring Maestro tries to kill him]].
[[Monster/TheIncredibleHulk here]].
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** Issue #418 featured Marlo selling her soul to Mephisto (she thought it was just a dream) in order to have a perfect wedding day. Over a decade later ''Spider-Man: ComicBook/OneMoreDay'' comes out, a story which involves Mephisto convincing Peter Parker to sell his ''marriage'' to him.
** Issue #1 declared, as General Ross named the Hulk, that it was a name that was destined to become immortal. Fast forward decades later, and Hulk's latest title is... ''ComicBook/ImmortalHulk''.
** Related to that, a ClueFromEd in What If? Issue #2 ("What if the Hulk retained the mind of Bruce Banner?") said that the original events were chronicled in "the immortal Hulk #1", which is... [[NamesTheSame confusing]] now.

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* BrokenBase: The fandom generally falls into two camps. The first group likes the Earth's Mightiest Mortal aspect of the character, and like stories which concentrate on the Hulk fighting enemies that only he can defeat, and using his physiology to perform near-impossible feats (for instance, the Hulk can get anywhere on Earth by jumping there). The second group likes the character of Bruce Banner and how the Hulk represents his shattered psyche. The broken base is best exemplified by the two Hulk films that were made in the 2000s. The Ang Lee one was made by and for people in the second group; ''The Incredible Hulk'', on the other hand, was made for people in the first.

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* BrokenBase: The fandom generally falls into two camps. The first group likes the Earth's Mightiest Mortal aspect of the character, and like stories which concentrate on the Hulk fighting enemies that only he can defeat, and using his physiology to perform near-impossible feats (for instance, the Hulk can get anywhere on Earth by jumping there). The second group likes the character of Bruce Banner and how the Hulk represents his shattered psyche. There aren't a lot of writers skilled enough to do both ideas justice at the same time. The broken base is best exemplified by the two Hulk films that were made in the 2000s. The Ang Lee one was made by and for people in the second group; ''The Incredible Hulk'', on the other hand, was made for people in the first.



** Peter David wrote the book for over ''12 years'' and pretty much shaped the mythos, cast, and central traits of the Hulk. Like Chris Claremont for the X-Men, nearly every run of the Hulk builds off what PAD started.
** Jeff Parker, the writer on the red Hulk's solo title, has done an amazing job of rebuilding and redeeming the character.

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** Peter David Creator/PeterDavid wrote the book for over ''12 years'' and pretty much single-handedly shaped the mythos, cast, and central traits of the Hulk. Like Chris Claremont for the X-Men, nearly every run of the Hulk builds off what PAD started.
** Thanks to his seminal run, Creator/AlEwing now competes with David for the title of being considered ''THE'' Hulk writer.
** Jeff Parker, the writer on the red Red Hulk's solo title, has done an amazing job of rebuilding and redeeming the character.



* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Once [[MyRealDaddy Jeff Parker replaced Loeb as the red Hulk's writer.]]
* RootingForTheEmpire: Zeus gained quite a lot of MemeticBadass Internet credibility due to beating the Hulk, despite hardly being the best person himself.

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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Once [[MyRealDaddy Jeff Parker replaced Loeb as the red Red Hulk's writer.]]
* RootingForTheEmpire: Zeus gained quite a lot of MemeticBadass Internet credibility due to beating the Hulk, despite hardly being the best person himself. Most of it stemmed from fans being afraid that Hulk was getting a little ''[[GodModeSue too]]'' strong for his own good, so Zeus setting a hard limit on the Jade Giant's power level and driving home that he is far from unbeatable was really appreciated.
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* AudienceAlienatingEra: See [[AudienceAlienatingEra/MarvelUniverse AudienceAlienatingEra/MarvelUniverse]].

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* AudienceAlienatingEra: See [[AudienceAlienatingEra/MarvelUniverse AudienceAlienatingEra/MarvelUniverse]].the Marvel Comics page]].

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