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* MemeticMutation: While the series isn't often well-remembered (and if it is, not exactly fondly), when Wookieepedia compiled a list of the goofiest things ever to appear in the Expanded Universe, one of the most popular inclusions was "[[CardCarryingVillain the villainy of Trioculus and Hissa]]." "I bid you [all] dark greetings!" indeed.

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* MemeticMutation: While the series isn't often well-remembered (and if it is, not exactly fondly), when Wookieepedia ''Star Wars Insider'' compiled a list of the five goofiest things ever to appear in the Expanded Universe, one of the most popular inclusions them was "[[CardCarryingVillain the villainy The Villainy of Emperor Trioculus and Grand Moff Hissa]]." "I bid you [all] dark greetings!" indeed.
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* EnsembleDarkHorse: Go [[EnsembleDarkHorse/StarWarsLegends here]].
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*** And just adding to the accidental BlackComedy, right after this, Hissa and Trioculus are looking at Trioculus's arsenal, and Trioculus is feeling a happy nostalgia as he remembers all the people he killed with these weapons, with special mention going to an ion cannon that he used to blast TOURIST SPACESHIPS.

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*** ** And just adding to the accidental BlackComedy, Black Comedy, right after this, Hissa and Trioculus are looking at Trioculus's arsenal, and Trioculus is feeling a happy nostalgia as he remembers all the people he killed with these weapons, with special mention going to an ion cannon that he used to blast TOURIST SPACESHIPS.

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* HilariousInHindsight: Two aspects of this series seem to have unintentionally made it into the Disney sequel trilogy:
** Ken and Han briefly talk about a famous Corellian pilot named [[Film/TheForceAwakens Sno]][[Film/TheLastJedi ke]] Loroan who apparently mysteriously "died" during the [[Film/ReturnofTheJedi Battle of Endor]]... Where Palpatine died and left the Empire leaderless. [[EpilepticTrees Looks like we finally discovered Snoke's backstory!]]
** One of the big reveals is that [[spoiler:Ken is Emperor Palpatine's grandson]], and is the reason the books fell into CanonDiscontinuity. In ''Film/TheRiseOfSkywalker'', [[spoiler:it's canon that Rey is Palpatine's granddaughter]]. By the same token, there's the fact that Palpatine has descendants who (a) are dedicated to undoing the damage his influence caused on the galaxy (Triclops) and (b) train with Luke to become Jedi (Ken), making Rey an unofficial CompositeCharacter of the two.

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* HilariousInHindsight: Two aspects of this series seem to have unintentionally made it into the Disney sequel trilogy:
** Ken and Han briefly talk about a famous Corellian pilot named [[Film/TheForceAwakens Sno]][[Film/TheLastJedi ke]] Loroan who apparently mysteriously "died" during the [[Film/ReturnofTheJedi Battle of Endor]]... Where Palpatine died and left the Empire leaderless. [[EpilepticTrees Looks like we finally discovered Snoke's backstory!]]
** One of the big reveals is that [[spoiler:Ken is Emperor Palpatine's grandson]], and is the reason the books fell into CanonDiscontinuity. In ''Film/TheRiseOfSkywalker'', [[spoiler:it's canon that Rey is Palpatine's granddaughter]]. By the same token, there's the fact that Palpatine has descendants who (a) are dedicated to undoing the damage his influence caused on the galaxy (Triclops) and (b) train with Luke to become Jedi (Ken), making Rey an unofficial CompositeCharacter of the two.
Go [[HilariousInHindsight/StarWarsLegends here]].
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** Ken and Han briefly talk about a famous Corellian pilot named [[Film/TheForceAwakens Sno]][[Film/TheLastJedi ke]] Loroan who apparently mysteriously "died" during the [[Film/ReturnofTheJedi Battle of Endor]]... where Palpatine died and left the Empire leaderless. [[EpilepticTrees Looks like we finally discovered Snoke's backstory]]!
** One of the big reveals is that [[spoiler:Ken is Emperor Palpatine's grandson]], and is the reason the books fell into CanonDiscontinuity. In ''Film/TheRiseOfSkywalker'', [[spoiler:it's canon that Rey is Palpatine's granddaughter]].
*** By the same token, there's the fact that Palpatine has descendants who (a) are dedicated to undoing the damage his influence caused on the galaxy (Triclops) and (b) train with Luke to become Jedi (Ken), making Rey an unofficial CompositeCharacter of the two.

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** Ken and Han briefly talk about a famous Corellian pilot named [[Film/TheForceAwakens Sno]][[Film/TheLastJedi ke]] Loroan who apparently mysteriously "died" during the [[Film/ReturnofTheJedi Battle of Endor]]... where Where Palpatine died and left the Empire leaderless. [[EpilepticTrees Looks like we finally discovered Snoke's backstory]]!
backstory!]]
** One of the big reveals is that [[spoiler:Ken is Emperor Palpatine's grandson]], and is the reason the books fell into CanonDiscontinuity. In ''Film/TheRiseOfSkywalker'', [[spoiler:it's canon that Rey is Palpatine's granddaughter]].
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granddaughter]]. By the same token, there's the fact that Palpatine has descendants who (a) are dedicated to undoing the damage his influence caused on the galaxy (Triclops) and (b) train with Luke to become Jedi (Ken), making Rey an unofficial CompositeCharacter of the two.
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Now Flame Bait and Darth.


** Trioculus thinking that wearing Darth Vader's glove [[WhatanIdiot will actually give him the power to Force choke people like Darth Vader could]]. And throwing a hilariously {{Wangst}}y temper tantrum that would give Anakin Skywalker's "This is outrageous, this is unfair" scene a run for its money when he finds out it doesn't give him the power to choke people with The Force.

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** Trioculus thinking that wearing Darth Vader's glove [[WhatanIdiot will actually give him the power to Force choke people like Darth Vader could]].could. And throwing a hilariously {{Wangst}}y temper tantrum that would give Anakin Skywalker's "This is outrageous, this is unfair" scene a run for its money when he finds out it doesn't give him the power to choke people with The Force.
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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: What several EU writers have since attempted to do with the events and characters of the series, some quite successfully (as in the case of the Prophets of the Dark Side, given a full treatment in Creator/WizardsOfTheCoast's ''Dark Side Companion''). Notably, this involved making the Prophets seen in ''The Glove Of Darth Vader'' a bunch of impostors that the fairly badass real Prophets didn't consider worth the trouble of hunting down and killing.
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About unused not poorly used plots.


* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot:
** A lot of the basic ideas of the series actually had the potential to be pretty awesome, objectively. For just one thing, the villain concept of an ambitious and suave [[TheEvilPrince evil prince]] fighting to establish his claim to the Imperial throne, as well as hunting the Rebels and wooing Leia, is head and shoulders above the usual menagerie of Expanded Universe villains. But of course, we got [[TooDumbToLive Trioculus]] instead.
** The first book in the series has some amazingly cool ideas. A usurper to the throne of the Empire masquerades as the true son of the Emperor. He summons those loyal to his cause to his side, and decides that to be the true ruler he must find an artifact from a Sith Lord that will solidify his rule over the splintered factions of the Imperials. To gain it, he allies with a madman who hunts and devours sentient aliens out of a superstitious belief that doing so will grant him their strength. Unfortunately, the execution is way less awesome.
** Even the concept of Triclops has a great deal of merit. The Emperor's son, seen as insane for possessing an inherent goodness and humanity his wicked father could never torture out of him, sent into slavery rather than killed so that the Empire could harness his innate genius and involuntary nightly dreams of devices of destruction and death. He frees himself and joins the heroes, [[spoiler: even reuniting with the son he never knew]], but ultimately realizes that the things done to him make it impossible for him to live among them and chooses to dwell in the jungle as a hermit. Bittersweet and almost tragic, isn't it? ...If only it were written better.
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* {{Anvilicious}}: Between the CardCarryingVillain style of all the antagonists, the IncorruptiblePurePureness of the heroes and the prominent {{green aesop}}s, in which the heroes stop the villains from destroying the environment in various evil ways once per novel. With that said, the last book gives a [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped very good message]], though not subtle: your bloodline does '''not''' make you evil.

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* {{Anvilicious}}: Between the CardCarryingVillain style of all the antagonists, the IncorruptiblePurePureness of the heroes and the prominent {{green aesop}}s, in which the heroes stop the villains from destroying the environment in various evil ways once per novel. With that said, the The last book gives a [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped very good message]], though not subtle: subtle message: your bloodline does '''not''' make you evil.
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* {{Anvilicious}}: Between the CardCarryingVillain style of all the antagonists, the IncorruptiblePurePureness of the heroes and the prominent {{green aesop}}s, in which the heroes stop the villains from destroying the environment in various evil ways once per novel.
* CreatorsPet: Ken, among fans for whom ''Star Wars'' is SeriousBusiness.

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* {{Anvilicious}}: Between the CardCarryingVillain style of all the antagonists, the IncorruptiblePurePureness of the heroes and the prominent {{green aesop}}s, in which the heroes stop the villains from destroying the environment in various evil ways once per novel.
novel. With that said, the last book gives a [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped very good message]], though not subtle: your bloodline does '''not''' make you evil.
* CreatorsPet: Ken, among fans for whom ''Star Wars'' is SeriousBusiness.SeriousBusiness, because, while he is seen as a hero of the prophecies, he is a kid surrogate who most of the time is TheLoad.
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*** By the same token, there's the fact that Palpatine has descendants who (a) are dedicated to undoing the damage his influence caused on the galaxy (Triclops) and (b) train with Luke to become Jedi (Ken), making Rey an unofficial CompositeCharacter of the two.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: A lot of the basic ideas of the series actually had the potential to be pretty awesome, objectively. For just one thing, the villain concept of an ambitious and suave [[TheEvilPrince evil prince]] fighting to establish his claim to the Imperial throne, as well as hunting the Rebels and wooing Leia, is head and shoulders above the usual menagerie of Expanded Universe villains. But of course, we got [[TooDumbToLive Trioculus]] instead.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot:
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A lot of the basic ideas of the series actually had the potential to be pretty awesome, objectively. For just one thing, the villain concept of an ambitious and suave [[TheEvilPrince evil prince]] fighting to establish his claim to the Imperial throne, as well as hunting the Rebels and wooing Leia, is head and shoulders above the usual menagerie of Expanded Universe villains. But of course, we got [[TooDumbToLive Trioculus]] instead.
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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: What several EU writers have since attempted to do with the events and characters of the series, some quite successfully (as in the case of the Prophets of the Dark Side, given a full treatment in Creator/WizardsOfTheCoast's ''Dark Side Companion''). Notably, this involved making the Prophets seen in The Glove Of Darth Vader a bunch of impostors that the fairly badass real Prophets didn't consider worth the trouble of hunting down and killing.

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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: What several EU writers have since attempted to do with the events and characters of the series, some quite successfully (as in the case of the Prophets of the Dark Side, given a full treatment in Creator/WizardsOfTheCoast's ''Dark Side Companion''). Notably, this involved making the Prophets seen in The ''The Glove Of Darth Vader Vader'' a bunch of impostors that the fairly badass real Prophets didn't consider worth the trouble of hunting down and killing.

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* HilariousInHindsight: Go [[HilariousInHindsight/StarWarsLegends here]].

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* HilariousInHindsight: Go [[HilariousInHindsight/StarWarsLegends here]].HilariousInHindsight:
** Ken and Han briefly talk about a famous Corellian pilot named [[Film/TheForceAwakens Sno]][[Film/TheLastJedi ke]] Loroan who apparently mysteriously "died" during the [[Film/ReturnofTheJedi Battle of Endor]]... where Palpatine died and left the Empire leaderless. [[EpilepticTrees Looks like we finally discovered Snoke's backstory]]!
** One of the big reveals is that [[spoiler:Ken is Emperor Palpatine's grandson]], and is the reason the books fell into CanonDiscontinuity. In ''Film/TheRiseOfSkywalker'', [[spoiler:it's canon that Rey is Palpatine's granddaughter]].
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* FanonDiscontinuity: Anything in ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'' was discontinuity (prior to the ContinuityReboot) to ''someone'', but for reasons that should be obvious this gets it more than most.

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* FanonDiscontinuity: Anything in ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'' was discontinuity (prior to the ContinuityReboot) to ''someone'', but for reasons that should be obvious obvious, this gets it more than most.

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* HilariousInHindsight:
** Ken and Han briefly talk about a famous Corellian pilot named [[Film/TheForceAwakens Sno]][[Film/TheLastJedi ke]] Loroan who apparently mysteriously "died" during the [[Film/ReturnofTheJedi Battle of Endor]]... where Palpatine died and left the Empire leaderless. [[EpilepticTrees Looks like we finally discovered Snoke's backstory]]!
** One of the big reveals is that [[spoiler:Ken is Emperor Palpatine's grandson]], and is the reason the books fell into CanonDiscontinuity. In ''Film/TheRiseOfSkywalker'', [[spoiler:it's canon that Rey is Palpatine's granddaughter]].

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* HilariousInHindsight:
** Ken and Han briefly talk about a famous Corellian pilot named [[Film/TheForceAwakens Sno]][[Film/TheLastJedi ke]] Loroan who apparently mysteriously "died" during the [[Film/ReturnofTheJedi Battle of Endor]]... where Palpatine died and left the Empire leaderless. [[EpilepticTrees Looks like we finally discovered Snoke's backstory]]!
** One of the big reveals is that [[spoiler:Ken is Emperor Palpatine's grandson]], and is the reason the books fell into CanonDiscontinuity. In ''Film/TheRiseOfSkywalker'', [[spoiler:it's canon that Rey is Palpatine's granddaughter]].
HilariousInHindsight: Go [[HilariousInHindsight/StarWarsLegends here]].
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* SnarkBait: There's some evidence that the writers have embraced this, considering that they defended the series in an interview by pointing to its popularity with students.

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