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* EvilIsSexy: Abigail Williams is awful in pretty much every sense of the word, but she's often played by attractive actresses, and there's the implication that John is still physically drawn by her even as he plans to stop her trials.



* EvilIsSexy: Abigail, as played by Creator/WinonaRyder.
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* HarsherInHindsight: Miller puts the self-loathing statement in Elizabeth Proctor's mouth that adultery is always the woman's fault; that men only cheat when their wives have sharp tongues and cold beds. This isn't ''entirely'' crazy in the context of an heated emotional moment in Puritan culture that has a dim view of women and emphasizes guilt and repentance, but it smells a bit worse in the context of Miller's personal life. The play came out in 1953, and in 1951 Miller was already having an affair with Marilyn Monroe; he'd outright leave his first wife for her in 1956.


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** Similarly, Elizabeth Proctor openly blames herself for John's infidelity and claims that he only cheated because she was too cold and shrewish towards him. This ''kind of works'' in the context of the character and the world she inhabits, but it also reflects an older view of marital infidelity that's fallen out of favor.
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** Modern audiences [[https://www.themarysue.com/how-arthur-miller-created-a-myth-of-the-male-witch-hunt/ have become more critical]] of the play's portrayal of the events of the Salem witch trials as they pertain to John Proctor and Abigail Williams, with some pointing out the questionable decision to age up Abigail from 11 to 17 while portraying John as a troubled but good man and depicting Abigail as evil and manipulative.

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* MoralEventHorizon: Just ''where'' Abigail crosses this is difficult to judge, but her lowest point might be when she [[spoiler:accuses Mary of witchcraft to save her own hide, and more or less drives the poor girl completely insane with fear. She then has the gall to feign sympathy for her when she completely breaks down]].

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Just ''where'' Abigail crosses this is difficult hard to judge, tell, but her lowest point might be when she [[spoiler:accuses Mary of witchcraft to save her own hide, and more or less drives the poor girl completely insane with fear. She then has the gall to feign sympathy for her when she completely breaks down]].



** Thomas Putnam also has when you see that he’s purposely getting his neighbors accused of witchcraft just so he can inherit their land. This already makes him irredeemable, but he comes across as especially despicable in the film when you see him soullessly watching poor George Jacobs attempt to state his innocence fail, and Putnam shows absolutely no sign of remorse.

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** Thomas Putnam also has when you see that he’s purposely getting falsely accuses his neighbors accused of witchcraft just so he can inherit their land. This already makes him irredeemable, but he comes across as especially despicable in the film when you see him soullessly watching poor George Jacobs attempt to state his Jacobs' protests of innocence fail, fall on deaf ears, and Putnam shows absolutely no sign of remorse.



* ValuesDissonance: Tituba's depiction in the play is fairly racist, with her speaking in broken English despite the real life woman having lived in an English colony since she was a child, so her English should be as fluent as everyone else's. Modern renditions of the play tend to remove this aspect for this reason.

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Tituba's depiction in the play is fairly racist, with her speaking in broken English despite the real life woman having lived in an English colony since she was a child, so meaning her English should be as fluent as everyone else's. Modern renditions of the play tend to remove this aspect for this reason.
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** For those who dislike the girls for their sentencing innocent neighbors to death, the epilogue reveals that [[spoiler:Abigail ran out of the money she stole from her uncle and had to become a prostitute, dying before she turned 18 due to lower health standards in the former colonies]]. It also helps that Ruth/Ann Putnam in Real Life suffered a KarmaHoudiniWarranty: her parents died, including the manipulative Thomas, leading her to raise all of her siblings while in poverty, and she was unofficially excommunicated for her part. She never married, owing to the extra responsibility and lack of finances whatsoever. It took a public apology at her church for her to be welcomed back, and from what we hear, history records imply the apology was only accepted on principle because people's memories were still fresh of loved ones who had died or lost their livelihoods.
** The witch trials are shown as fraud and a sham in the epilogue. It's revealed that thanks to Abigail stealing all his money and vanished as the prime witness to witchcraft, her uncle Samuel Parris is forced to resign in disgrace and exiled. Elizabeth is the only one who gets a semi-happy ending, where it's revealed she lived, as did her baby.

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** For those Those who dislike the girls for their sentencing innocent neighbors to death, death may get some satisfaction from the the epilogue reveals revealing that [[spoiler:Abigail ran out of the money she stole from her uncle and had to become a prostitute, dying before she turned 18 due to lower health standards in the former colonies]]. It also helps that in real life, [[KarmaHoudiniWarranty karma eventually caught up to Ruth/Ann Putnam in Real Life suffered a KarmaHoudiniWarranty: Putnam]]: her parents died, including the manipulative Thomas, leading leaving her to raise all of her siblings while in poverty, and she was unofficially excommunicated for her part. She never married, owing to the extra responsibility and lack of finances whatsoever. It took a public apology at her church for her to be welcomed back, and from what we hear, history even then, historical records imply the apology was only accepted on principle because people's memories were still fresh of loved ones who had died or lost their livelihoods.
livelihoods because of her.
** The witch trials are shown as fraud and a sham in the epilogue. It's revealed that thanks to Abigail stealing all his money and vanished vanishing as the prime witness to witchcraft, her uncle Samuel Parris is forced to resign in disgrace and exiled.goes into exile. Elizabeth is the only one who gets a semi-happy ending, where it's revealed she lived, as did her baby.



** Judge Danforth doesn’t show up until Act 3, but from that point on he’s an extremely dominant force for the rest of the play, being a strong and terrifying force against the protagonists, making him one of the most popular characters in the piece.

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** Judge Danforth doesn’t show up until Act 3, but from that point on he’s an extremely dominant force for the rest of the play, being a strong and terrifying force individual against the protagonists, making him one of the most popular characters in the piece.
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* ValuesDissonance: Tituba's depiction in the play is fairly racist, with her speaking in broken English despite the real life person having been on an English colony since she was a child, so her English should be as fluent as everyone else's. Modern renditions of the play tend to remove this aspect for this reason.

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* ValuesDissonance: Tituba's depiction in the play is fairly racist, with her speaking in broken English despite the real life person woman having been on lived in an English colony since she was a child, so her English should be as fluent as everyone else's. Modern renditions of the play tend to remove this aspect for this reason.



** Tituba stands out as the only one who didn't really lose anything after the Trials because she didn't ''have'' anything to lose after becoming slave and having her life ruined.

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** Tituba stands out as the only one who didn't really lose anything after the Trials Trials, because she didn't ''have'' anything to lose after becoming slave and having her life ruined.
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* ValuesDissonance: Tituba's depiction in the play is fairly racist, with her speaking in broken English despite the real life person having been on an English colony since she was a child, so her English should be as fluent as everyone else's.

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* ValuesDissonance: Tituba's depiction in the play is fairly racist, with her speaking in broken English despite the real life person having been on an English colony since she was a child, so her English should be as fluent as everyone else's. Modern renditions of the play tend to remove this aspect for this reason.
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* FridgeBrilliance: Though it's more "Fridge Irony", as, prior to/during the (actual) Salem Witch trials, someone wrote a book which stated that witches couldn't recite the Lord's Prayer. One would think that would convince the town of Salem of Rebecca, Martha, and Proctor's innocence. (In RealLife, some of the accused actually did try to use this defense, but such was the hysteria that even the slightest stumble over a word or having a noticeable accent was counted as "failing", so it didn't help. Even reciting it literally perfectly didn't help poor George Burroughs--his accusers declared the Devil was dictating the prayer to him and hanged him anyway. [[InsaneTrollLogic Yes, really.]])

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* FridgeBrilliance: Though it's more "Fridge Irony", as, prior to/during the (actual) Salem Witch trials, someone wrote a book which stated that witches couldn't recite the Lord's Prayer. One would think that would convince the town of Salem of Rebecca, Martha, and Proctor's innocence. (In RealLife, some of the accused actually did try to use this defense, but such was the hysteria that even the slightest stumble over a word or having a noticeable accent was counted as "failing", so it didn't help. Even reciting it literally perfectly didn't help poor George Burroughs--his Burroughs--[[MovingTheGoalposts his accusers declared the Devil was dictating the prayer to him and hanged him anyway. anyway.]] [[InsaneTrollLogic Yes, really.]])
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* NightmareFuel[=/=]{{Squick}}: The scene in the forest. Originally, Tituba was creating a love spell so that the men the girls chose for the ritual would fall in love with them, uttering an eerie chant to go with it. Then Abigail kills the chicken Tituba was using and drinks some of its blood. Those other girls go crazy and start screaming and dancing around.

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* NightmareFuel[=/=]{{Squick}}: NightmareFuel: The scene in the forest. Originally, Tituba was creating a love spell so that the men the girls chose for the ritual would fall in love with them, uttering an eerie chant to go with it. Then Abigail kills the chicken Tituba was using and drinks some of its blood. Those other girls go crazy and start screaming and dancing around.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Judge Danforth doesn’t show up until Act 3, but from that point on he’s an extremely dominant force for the rest of the play, being a strong and terrifying force against the protagonists, making him one of the most popular characters in the piece.

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Judge Danforth doesn’t show up until Act 3, but from that point on he’s an extremely dominant force for the rest of the play, being a strong and terrifying force against the protagonists, making him one of the most popular characters in the piece.
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* NightmareFuel: The scene in the forest. Originally, Tituba was creating a love spell so that the men the girls chose for the ritual would fall in love with them, uttering an eerie chant to go with it. Then Abigail kills the chicken Tituba was using and drinks some of its blood. Those other girls go crazy and start screaming and dancing around.

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* NightmareFuel: NightmareFuel[=/=]{{Squick}}: The scene in the forest. Originally, Tituba was creating a love spell so that the men the girls chose for the ritual would fall in love with them, uttering an eerie chant to go with it. Then Abigail kills the chicken Tituba was using and drinks some of its blood. Those other girls go crazy and start screaming and dancing around.
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** Giles Corey is a well meaning CoolOldGuy who mentions to Reverend Hale that he finds it odd how his current is constantly reading books. Little did he realize the damage that such a statement could cause. [[InsaneTrollLogic This ideas then snowballs into wife being a witch]], at which point she's arrested and in serious danger of execution, [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone something that shakes Giles to his core and he blames himself for]]. Corey then tries to save her and stop the entire proceedings by pointing out how Thomas Putnam is abusing them to kill his neighbors and buy their land. When HangingJudge Thomas Danforth asks for his witness, Giles refuses, knowing that they'll be arrested. Danforth then declares court is in order and has Giles himself arrested. After this Giles is ForcedToWatch his friend John fail against Danforth's obstructive judgement, [[DisproportionateRetribution and is later said to have been executed, despite his only crime being refusing to name someone]]. The only bright side of all this is that [[DyingMomentOfAwesome Giles was able to manipulate the legality of these situations enough that his family is still able to keep their land]].

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** Giles Corey is a well meaning CoolOldGuy who mentions to Reverend Hale that he finds it odd how his current wife is constantly reading books. Little did he realize the damage that such a statement could cause. [[InsaneTrollLogic This ideas then snowballs into wife being a witch]], at which point she's arrested and in serious danger of execution, [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone something that shakes Giles to his core and he blames himself for]]. Corey then tries to save her and stop the entire proceedings by pointing out how Thomas Putnam is abusing them to kill his neighbors and buy their land. When HangingJudge Thomas Danforth asks for his witness, Giles refuses, knowing that they'll be arrested. Danforth then declares court is in order and has Giles himself arrested. After this Giles is ForcedToWatch his friend John fail against Danforth's obstructive judgement, [[DisproportionateRetribution and is later said to have been executed, despite his only crime being refusing to name someone]]. The only bright side of all this is that [[DyingMomentOfAwesome Giles was able to manipulate the legality of these situations enough that his family is still able to keep their land]].
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* FridgeBrilliance: Though it's more "Fridge Irony", as, prior to/during the (actual) Salem Witch trials, someone wrote a book which stated that witches couldn't recite the Lord's Prayer. One would think that would convince the town of Salem of Rebecca, Martha, and Proctor's innocence.

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* FridgeBrilliance: Though it's more "Fridge Irony", as, prior to/during the (actual) Salem Witch trials, someone wrote a book which stated that witches couldn't recite the Lord's Prayer. One would think that would convince the town of Salem of Rebecca, Martha, and Proctor's innocence. (In RealLife, some of the accused actually did try to use this defense, but such was the hysteria that even the slightest stumble over a word or having a noticeable accent was counted as "failing", so it didn't help. Even reciting it literally perfectly didn't help poor George Burroughs--his accusers declared the Devil was dictating the prayer to him and hanged him anyway. [[InsaneTrollLogic Yes, really.]])
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* {{Anvilicious}}: A common accusation of many Miller plays, then and now is that his messages were obvious and repeated incessantly throughout his scripts. This is no different in ''The Crucible'', where John Proctor spells out the moral and tells the audience whenever another audience is doing something wrong.

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* {{Anvilicious}}: A common accusation of many Miller plays, then and now is that his messages about not pointing the finger and the danger of mob justice were obvious and repeated incessantly throughout his scripts. This is no different in ''The Crucible'', where John Proctor spells out the moral and tells the audience whenever another audience is doing something wrong.
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* NightmareFuel: For some, Abby’s scene where she and the rest of Salem’s youth pretend a bird is attacking them and begin repeating everything Mary says could be this.

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* NightmareFuel: For some, Abby’s Abigail’s scene where she and the rest of Salem’s youth pretend a bird is attacking them and begin repeating everything Mary says could be this.
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* {{Anvilicious}}: A common accusation of many Miller plays, then and now, though considering [[TheFifties the time period]], SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped.

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* {{Anvilicious}}: A common accusation of many Miller plays, then and now, though considering [[TheFifties now is that his messages were obvious and repeated incessantly throughout his scripts. This is no different in ''The Crucible'', where John Proctor spells out the time period]], SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped.moral and tells the audience whenever another audience is doing something wrong.
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* CatharsisFactor:
** For those who dislike the girls for their sentencing innocent neighbors to death, the epilogue reveals that [[spoiler:Abigail ran out of the money she stole from her uncle and had to become a prostitute, dying before she turned 18 due to lower health standards in the former colonies]]. It also helps that Ruth/Ann Putnam in Real Life suffered a KarmaHoudiniWarranty: her parents died, including the manipulative Thomas, leading her to raise all of her siblings while in poverty, and she was unofficially excommunicated for her part. She never married, owing to the extra responsibility and lack of finances whatsoever. It took a public apology at her church for her to be welcomed back, and from what we hear, history records imply the apology was only accepted on principle because people's memories were still fresh of loved ones who had died or lost their livelihoods.
** The witch trials are shown as fraud and a sham in the epilogue. It's revealed that thanks to Abigail stealing all his money and vanished as the prime witness to witchcraft, her uncle Samuel Parris is forced to resign in disgrace and exiled. Elizabeth is the only one who gets a semi-happy ending, where it's revealed she lived, as did her baby.
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** The witchcraft scene is shown, and many find the result to be [[NothingIsScarier much less frightening than the talk surrounding it in the play]].
** Danforth's declaration that Giles' trial has begun uses a jump cut to place them in the court, with the instantaneous nature of the line being ruined.
** Giles' death is shown, but John's reaction to it is never shown. As far as the audience knows, John never found out about his friend's end.
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** Giles Corey is a well meaning CoolOldGuy who mentions to Reverend Hale that he finds it odd how his current is constantly reading books. Little did he realize the damage that such a statement could cause. [[InsaneTrollLogic This ideas then snowballs into wife being a witch]], at which point she's arrested and in serious danger of execution, [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone something that shakes Giles to his core and he blames himself for]]. Corey then tries to save her and stop the entire proceedings by pointing out how Thomas Putnam is abusing them to kill his neighbors and buy their land. When HangingJudge Thomas Danforth asks for his witness, Giles refuses, knowing that they'll be arrested. Danforth then declares court is in order and has Giles himself arrested. After this Giles is ForcedToWatch his friend John fail against Danforth's obstructive judgement, [[DisproportionateRetribution and is later said to have been executed, despite his only crime being refusing to name someone]]. The only bright side of all this is that [[DyingMomentOfAwesome Giles was able to manipulate the legality of these situations enough that his family is still able to keep their land]].

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