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** James O'Barr. All the pain, self-hatred and survivors guilt Eric displays is taken from his own experiences with his fiancee dying. Even worse, he became extremely close with Brandon Lee, only to have him taken away too.

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** James O'Barr. All the pain, self-hatred and survivors guilt Eric displays is taken from his own experiences with his fiancee dying. Even worse, he became extremely close with Brandon Lee, only to have him taken away too.too.

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** Gideon does, however, clearly know that people have been robbed and possibly killed for all of these items. His reaction to spotting blood on the purse one of the villains sells him is only annoyance that it makes it obviously stolen and impossible to sell. He may not do the killing, but he clearly enabled the killers and was at best indifferent to their crimes.
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* TheWoobie: Eric and Shelley. Hot ''damn''.

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* TheWoobie: Eric and Shelley. Hot ''damn''.''damn''.
** James O'Barr. All the pain, self-hatred and survivors guilt Eric displays is taken from his own experiences with his fiancee dying. Even worse, he became extremely close with Brandon Lee, only to have him taken away too.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Until comic sequels and the movies confirmed Eric's supernatural nature, many readers thought that Eric was not supernatural, instead having survived the incident with the gang and insane from survivor's guilt. His masochistic tendencies and flashbacks throughout the original series give credence that this might have been the original intent.
** How the hell? In the comic we see him being shot in the head in the bar scene. Funboy even comments on this. Then later he takes couple of dozens of shots at close range to his chest, then teleports away.
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** Not that Top Dollar feels some kind of remorse even if he never ordered to kill both Eric and Shelly: "So I'm sorry if I spoiled your wedding plans, there, friend. But if it's any consolation to you, you have put a smile on my face."
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* KarmicDeath: [[spoiler: Myca, who's fond of using stolen eyeballs in rituals, has her eyes pecked out by the crow when she tries to take its power.]]
* HeelRealization: T-Bird, [[CompleteMonster an unrepentant rapist and murderer]] throughout the film, is visibly shaken and on the verge of tears after recognizing Eric Draven, a man he had killed.

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* CompleteMonster: Top Dollar and his henchmen. Three of them rape and beat to death a harmless girl and also have her boyfriend (Eric) shot and thrown out the window. But Top Dollar is the one who ordered it, and that makes him ''even worse'' than them.

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* CompleteMonster: Top Dollar and his henchmen. Three of them rape and beat to death a harmless girl and also have her boyfriend (Eric) shot and thrown out the window. But Top Dollar is the one who ordered it, and that makes him ''even worse'' than them. them.
** Top Dollar only ordered his goons to attack Shelly and make her stop her complains. The two lovers died because Eric came home too early. Tin-tin first killed Eric and the rest of the crew decided that it's easier to just kill them both than try to cover it up. Yes, they are monsters, but the point is that Top Dollar never gave order to "kill them both and rape the girl".
*** T-Bird: "We needed to put some fear into that little lady, she wasn't going along with our tenant relocation program. Then her idiot boyfriend shows up and turns a simple, sweep´n´clear into a total cluster fuck! "

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* DesignatedVillain: Gideon, whose only crimes are being an opportunist (it's not as if ''he'' killed all those newlyweds off of whom countless criminals pawned wedding rings) and trying to stop a weirdo with a painted face from intruding on his property late at night. But that doesn't stop Eric from vindictively torching his pawn shop with gasoline. (It's even worse in the comic, where Eric [[spoiler:cold-bloodedly shoots Gideon dead with his own Walther handgun]].)

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* DesignatedVillain: Gideon, whose only crimes are being an opportunist (it's not as if ''he'' killed all those newlyweds off of whom countless criminals pawned wedding rings) and trying to stop a weirdo with a painted face from intruding on his property late at night. But that doesn't stop Eric from vindictively torching his pawn shop with gasoline. (It's gasoline.
-->'''Eric:''' Each one of these...is a life. A life you helped destroy.
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even worse in the comic, where Eric [[spoiler:cold-bloodedly shoots Gideon dead with his own Walther handgun]].)
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Moving example to Heartwarming moment.


* SugarWiki/{{Heartwarming Moment|s}}: "I hate cats."
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* CompleteMonster: Top Dollar and his henchmen. Three of them have raped and beat to death a harmless girl and also has her boyfriend (Eric) shot and throw away the window. But Top Dollar has ordered it and that makes him ''even worse'' than them.

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* CompleteMonster: Top Dollar and his henchmen. Three of them have raped rape and beat to death a harmless girl and also has have her boyfriend (Eric) shot and throw away thrown out the window. But Top Dollar has is the one who ordered it it, and that makes him ''even worse'' than them.
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* KarmicDeath: [[spoiler: Myca, who's fond of using stolen eyeballs in rituals, has her eyes pecked out by the crow when she tries to take its power.]]
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* HeelRealization: T-Bird, [[CompleteMonster an unrepentant rapist and murderer]] throughout the film, is visibly shaken and on the verge of tears after recognizing Eric Draven, a man he had killed.
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* HilariousInHindsight: The film famously quotes the line "Abashed the Devil stood and felt how awful goodness is" from John Milton's ''{{Paradise Lost}}''. Director Alex Proyas is currently (As of 2012) working on a film adaption of the epic poem.

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* AdaptationDisplacement - Though not for hardcore comics fans.
* AlternateCharacterInterpretation - Until comic sequels and the movies confirmed Eric's supernatural nature, many readers thought that Eric was not supernatural, instead having survived the incident with the gang and insane from survivor's guilt. His masochistic tendencies and flashbacks throughout the original series give credence that this might have been the original intent.

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* AdaptationDisplacement - AdaptationDisplacement: Though not for hardcore comics fans.
* AlternateCharacterInterpretation - AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Until comic sequels and the movies confirmed Eric's supernatural nature, many readers thought that Eric was not supernatural, instead having survived the incident with the gang and insane from survivor's guilt. His masochistic tendencies and flashbacks throughout the original series give credence that this might have been the original intent.



* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic:
** Both Graeme Revell's score, which won awards, and the soundtrack, which featured notable bands as MyLifeWithTheThrillKillKult, Music/TheCure, a Music/JoyDivision cover by Music/NineInchNails, among others. Mostly James O'Barr's favorite bands at the time he created the comic and whose songs were frequently referenced and used thematically in the comic.
** Yes, for a graphic novel. Trust Obey released a soundtrack entitled "Fear and Bullets: Music to Acompany the Crow Comic Book" and is specifically made to play while you read.



** The comic version of Funboy is inhuman. "Dude, half her head's gone." "I ain't interested in her ''head'', man ..." Oddly, Funboy is the only villian in the comic who doesn't get brutally murdered by Eric, and is instead allowed to die by a self-inflicted heroin overdose. Though just before he dies Funboy seems to realize what a waste of space he is, and while he admits he feels no guilt about his deeds, he knows that he ''should.''
* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: "I hate cats."
* CrowningMusicOfAwesome:
** Both Graeme Revell's score, which won awards, and the soundtrack, which featured notable bands as MyLifeWithTheThrillKillKult, TheCure, a JoyDivision cover by NineInchNails, among others. Mostly James O'Barr's favorite bands at the time he created the comic and whose songs were frequently referenced and used thematically in the comic.
** Yes, for a graphic novel. Trust Obey released a soundtrack entitled "Fear and Bullets: Music to Acompany the Crow Comic Book" and is specifically made to play while you read.
* DesignatedVillain - Gideon, whose only crimes are being an opportunist (it's not as if ''he'' killed all those newlyweds off of whom countless criminals pawned wedding rings) and trying to stop a weirdo with a painted face from intruding on his property late at night. But that doesn't stop Eric from vindictively torching his pawn shop with gasoline. (It's even worse in the comic, where Eric [[spoiler:cold-bloodedly shoots Gideon dead with his own Walther handgun]].)
* FunnyAneurysmMoment - The movie is about a guy who returned to life after being shot dead, starring a guy who was accidentally shot dead during filming. Not that this is funny, but Eric's occasional flippancy about being dead and people intending to kill him definitely qualify for this. One particularly jarring line, "Take your shot, Funboy - you got me dead bang" is spoken to the character whose actor pulled the trigger.

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** The comic version of Funboy is inhuman. "Dude, half her head's gone." "I ain't interested in her ''head'', man ..." Oddly, Funboy is the only villian villain in the comic who doesn't get brutally murdered by Eric, and is instead allowed to die by a self-inflicted heroin overdose. Though just before he dies Funboy seems to realize what a waste of space he is, and while he admits he feels no guilt about his deeds, he knows that he ''should.''
* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: "I hate cats."
* CrowningMusicOfAwesome:
** Both Graeme Revell's score, which won awards, and the soundtrack, which featured notable bands as MyLifeWithTheThrillKillKult, TheCure, a JoyDivision cover by NineInchNails, among others. Mostly James O'Barr's favorite bands at the time he created the comic and whose songs were frequently referenced and used thematically in the comic.
** Yes, for a graphic novel. Trust Obey released a soundtrack entitled "Fear and Bullets: Music to Acompany the Crow Comic Book" and is specifically made to play while you read.
* DesignatedVillain -
DesignatedVillain: Gideon, whose only crimes are being an opportunist (it's not as if ''he'' killed all those newlyweds off of whom countless criminals pawned wedding rings) and trying to stop a weirdo with a painted face from intruding on his property late at night. But that doesn't stop Eric from vindictively torching his pawn shop with gasoline. (It's even worse in the comic, where Eric [[spoiler:cold-bloodedly shoots Gideon dead with his own Walther handgun]].)
* FunnyAneurysmMoment - FunnyAneurysmMoment: The movie is about a guy who returned to life after being shot dead, starring a guy who was accidentally shot dead during filming. Not that this is funny, but Eric's occasional flippancy about being dead and people intending to kill him definitely qualify for this. One particularly jarring line, "Take your shot, Funboy - you got me dead bang" is spoken to the character whose actor pulled the trigger.trigger.
* SugarWiki/{{Heartwarming Moment|s}}: "I hate cats."



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* {{Sequelitis}} - In both media.

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* {{Sequelitis}} - {{Sequelitis}}: In both media.



* TearJerker - From the beginning to the end.

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* TearJerker - TearJerker: From the beginning to the end.
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** How the hell? In the comic we see him being shot in the head in the bar scene. Funboy even comments on this. Then later he takes couple of dozens of shots at close range to his chest, then teleports away.
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* CompleteMonster: Top Dollar and his henchmen. Three of them have raped and beat to death and harmless girl and also has her boyfriend (Eric) shot and throw away the window. But Top Dollar has ordered it and that makes him ''even worse'' than them.

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* CompleteMonster: Top Dollar and his henchmen. Three of them have raped and beat to death and a harmless girl and also has her boyfriend (Eric) shot and throw away the window. But Top Dollar has ordered it and that makes him ''even worse'' than them.
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** Michael Wincott's hair extensions to give him those long, flowing locks are, well, [[{{Understatement}} pretty obvious]] ...in more than a couple of scenes.

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** Michael Wincott's hair extensions to give him those long, flowing locks are, well, [[{{Understatement}} pretty obvious]] ...obvious ...in more than a couple of scenes.
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The film was dedicated to Brandon, the actor, not Eric, the character.


--->For Eric and Eliza.

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--->For Eric Brandon and Eliza.
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* {{Narm}}: Some of Eric's dialogue in both movie and comic can fall flat, particularly when he starts going really off the deep end after the Gin Mill. Of course, he is pretty nuts, so this might be the singular case where Narm is a JustifiedTrope.
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** The dedication card at the end of the movie. Christ.
--->For Eric and Eliza.
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** Also, the eyeballs. Egads, the eyeballs.
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** The comic version of Funboy is inhuman. "Dude, half her head's gone." "I ain't interested in her ''head'', man ..." Oddly, Funboy is the only villian in the comic who doesn't get brutally murdered by Eric, and is instead allowed to die by a self-inflicted heroin overdose. Granted, Eric didn't leave him any other choice.

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** The comic version of Funboy is inhuman. "Dude, half her head's gone." "I ain't interested in her ''head'', man ..." Oddly, Funboy is the only villian in the comic who doesn't get brutally murdered by Eric, and is instead allowed to die by a self-inflicted heroin overdose. Granted, Eric didn't leave him any other choice.Though just before he dies Funboy seems to realize what a waste of space he is, and while he admits he feels no guilt about his deeds, he knows that he ''should.''
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** The comic version of Funboy is a inhuman. "Dude, half her head's gone." "I ain't interested in her ''head'', man ..." Oddly, Funboy is the only villian in the comic who doesn't get brutally murdered by Eric, and is instead allowed to die by a self-inflicted heroin overdose. Granted, Eric didn't leave him any other choice.

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** The comic version of Funboy is a inhuman. "Dude, half her head's gone." "I ain't interested in her ''head'', man ..." Oddly, Funboy is the only villian in the comic who doesn't get brutally murdered by Eric, and is instead allowed to die by a self-inflicted heroin overdose. Granted, Eric didn't leave him any other choice.
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** The comic version of Funboy is a inhuman. "Dude, half her head's gone." "I ain't interested in her ''head'', man ..." Oddly, Funboy is the only villian in the comic who doesn't get brutally murdered by Eric, and is instead allowed to die by a self-inflicted heroin overdose. Granted, Eric didn't leave him any other choice.
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* DesignatedVillain - Gideon, whose only crimes are being an opportunist (it's not as if ''he'' killed all those newlyweds off of whom countless criminals pawned wedding rings) and trying to stop a weirdo with a painted face from intruding on his property late at night. But that doesn't stop Eric from vindictively torching his pawn shop with gasoline. (It's even worse in the comic, where Eric [[spoiler:cold-bloodedly shoots Gideon dead with his own Walther handgun]].)
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* CompleteMonster: Top Dollar and his henchmen. Three of them have raped and beat to death and harmless girl and also has his boyfriend (Eric) shot and throw away the window. But Top Dollar has ordered it and that makes him ''even worse'' than them.

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* CompleteMonster: Top Dollar and his henchmen. Three of them have raped and beat to death and harmless girl and also has his her boyfriend (Eric) shot and throw away the window. But Top Dollar has ordered it and that makes him ''even worse'' than them.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation - Until comic sequels and the movies confirmed Eric's supernatural nature, many readers thought that Eric was not supernatural, instead having survived the incident with the gang and insane from survivor's guilt. His masochistic tendencies and flashbacks throughout the original series give credence that this might have been the original intent.
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* AdaptationDisplacement - Though not for hardcore comics fans.



* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: Yes, for a graphic novel. Trust Obey released a soundtrack entitled "Fear and Bullets: Music to Acompany the Crow Comic Book" and is specifically made to play while you read.

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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: CrowningMusicOfAwesome:
** Both Graeme Revell's score, which won awards, and the soundtrack, which featured notable bands as MyLifeWithTheThrillKillKult, TheCure, a JoyDivision cover by NineInchNails, among others. Mostly James O'Barr's favorite bands at the time he created the comic and whose songs were frequently referenced and used thematically in the comic.
**
Yes, for a graphic novel. Trust Obey released a soundtrack entitled "Fear and Bullets: Music to Acompany the Crow Comic Book" and is specifically made to play while you read.read.
* FunnyAneurysmMoment - The movie is about a guy who returned to life after being shot dead, starring a guy who was accidentally shot dead during filming. Not that this is funny, but Eric's occasional flippancy about being dead and people intending to kill him definitely qualify for this. One particularly jarring line, "Take your shot, Funboy - you got me dead bang" is spoken to the character whose actor pulled the trigger.
* SpecialEffectsFailure
** The compositing of Brandon Lee's face over his double after his death is not ''that'' noticeable, unless you are paying attention. But you gotta cut them slack under the circumstances - no one had ever done the effect before.
** Michael Wincott's hair extensions to give him those long, flowing locks are, well, [[{{Understatement}} pretty obvious]] ...in more than a couple of scenes.
* {{Sequelitis}} - In both media.



** Eric's farewell to Sara in the comic...actually, pretty much any scene with Sara in the comic.

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** Eric's farewell to Sara Sherri in the comic...actually, pretty much any scene with Sara Sherri in the comic.
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* TheWoobie: Eric and Shelley. Hot ''damn''.

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