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* OlderThanTheyThink: Many people think that this game is the first UsefulNotes/SuperNES game with a vocal song in-game, but it's not. The infamous unlicensed game ''VideoGame/HongKong97'', which came out a few months before this game, has an [[BrokenRecord uninterrupted 5-second loop]] of ''I Love Beijing Tiananmen'' complete with vocals as the only sound in the game. Most people still agree that ''Tales of Phantasia'' does it much better than ''VideoGame/HongKong97'', though.

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* OlderThanTheyThink: Many people think that this game is the first UsefulNotes/SuperNES Platform/SuperNES game with a vocal song in-game, but it's not. The infamous unlicensed game ''VideoGame/HongKong97'', which came out a few months before this game, has an [[BrokenRecord uninterrupted 5-second loop]] of ''I Love Beijing Tiananmen'' complete with vocals as the only sound in the game. Most people still agree that ''Tales of Phantasia'' does it much better than ''VideoGame/HongKong97'', though.

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* GoodBadBugs: At least in the SNES version it's possible to place Cless behind the final boss' second form, making him completely unable to hit you. Made all the more satisfying by the boss normally being really cheap.



* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: This game is still playable today but it's shown its age. A lot of the stuff that made this game stand out were later done better by later VideoGame/TalesSeries games or became commonplace. (''VideoGame/TalesOfPhantasia'' was called "The game that sings" originally because it had a theme song. This is standard routine for the VideoGame/TalesSeries game; but a lot of other games have theme songs, too.) The Linear Motion battle system was also ''really'' cool and innovative for its time; but compared to the other Linear Motion Battle systems (Especially the 3D and pseudo-3D ones) it is Bare-Bones. Even compared to ''VideoGame/TalesOfEternia'''s LMBS, this game's LMBS can frustrate people with how chuggy it is. Also, this game's major twist was that [[spoiler:Dhaos was just a WellIntentionedExtremist]]. (However; Dhaos is still one of the most memorable VideoGame/TalesSeries Villainous Blondes)

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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: OnceOriginalNowCommon: This game is still playable today but it's shown its age. A lot of the stuff that made this game stand out were later done better by later VideoGame/TalesSeries games or became commonplace. (''VideoGame/TalesOfPhantasia'' commonplace.
** ''Tales of Phantasia''
was called "The game that sings" originally because it had a theme song. This is standard routine for the VideoGame/TalesSeries game; but a lot of other games have theme songs, too.) The Mere years later, almost every game could easily include both songs ''and'' voice acting thanks to advances in data storage technologies.
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Linear Motion battle system was also ''really'' cool and innovative for its time; but compared to the other Linear Motion Battle systems (Especially the 3D and pseudo-3D ones) it is Bare-Bones. bare-bones. Even compared to ''VideoGame/TalesOfEternia'''s LMBS, this game's LMBS can frustrate people with how chuggy it is. is.
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Also, this game's major twist was that [[spoiler:Dhaos was just a WellIntentionedExtremist]].WellIntentionedExtremist]]. Nowadays, it's a MetaTwist if a ''VideoGame/{{Tales|Series}}'' game ''doesn't'' have this. (However; Dhaos is still one of the most memorable VideoGame/TalesSeries Villainous Blondes)
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* AluminumChristmasTrees: In 2006, when the game received an official translation by Nintendo, many thought that changing "Cless" to "Cress" made no sense since they didn't know "Cress" was actually a word referring to a type of plant in the cabbage family.
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** Pluto, a secret summon set up as a BonusBoss at the end of an incredibly difficult BonusDungeon, is supposed to be incredibly tough. Which, sadly, he's not. Due to programmer oversight, he flinches and is pushed back nigh constantly when hit with Demon Fang, Cress's ''first move''. The entire battle ends up being Cress sending [[BeamSpam endless arcs of Demon Fangs]] at Pluto and the rest of the party nuking the crap out of him, all while he sits ineffectually off in the corner, presumably crying about CherryTapping bastards.

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** Pluto, a secret summon set up as a BonusBoss {{superboss}} at the end of an incredibly difficult BonusDungeon, is supposed to be incredibly tough. Which, sadly, he's not. Due to programmer oversight, he flinches and is pushed back nigh constantly when hit with Demon Fang, Cress's ''first move''. The entire battle ends up being Cress sending [[BeamSpam endless arcs of Demon Fangs]] at Pluto and the rest of the party nuking the crap out of him, all while he sits ineffectually off in the corner, presumably crying about CherryTapping bastards.
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* PolishedPort: The Playstation and PSP versions steal the show, not only using ''VideoGame/TalesOfDestiny'''s engine for smoother gameplay and combat but generally adding more on top like Suzu as an OptionalPartyMember. They're also notable for the more in-depth Skits, the Manual Ring allowing you to take total control over the battles, and actual voice acting, especially the PSP release with the [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Full Vocal Version]] filling in ''all'' of the cutscene dialogue.

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* PolishedPort: The Playstation and PSP versions steal the show, not only using ''VideoGame/TalesOfDestiny'''s engine for smoother gameplay and combat but generally adding more on top like Suzu as an OptionalPartyMember. They're also notable for the more in-depth Skits, the Manual Ring allowing you to take total control over the battles, and actual voice acting, especially the PSP release with the [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Full Vocal Version]] Voice Edition]] filling in ''all'' of the cutscene dialogue.dialogue. ''Cross Edition'' also souped up the combat system ''again'', being an even more overhauled version of the same general game.
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* {{Narm}}: The Playstation and PSP ports carry voice acting for the main characters in dialogue sequences, which is cool -- but the Playstation version ''only'' has major characters voiced. So as soon as the game's fancy intro is over, Cless gets each line of dialogue voiced in-between his teacher and father talking to him with nary a peep, and this weirdness will throw you out of it for the rest of the game.


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* PolishedPort: The Playstation and PSP versions steal the show, not only using ''VideoGame/TalesOfDestiny'''s engine for smoother gameplay and combat but generally adding more on top like Suzu as an OptionalPartyMember. They're also notable for the more in-depth Skits, the Manual Ring allowing you to take total control over the battles, and actual voice acting, especially the PSP release with the [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Full Vocal Version]] filling in ''all'' of the cutscene dialogue.
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* OlderThanTheyThink: Many people think that this game is the first UsefulNotes/SuperNES game with a vocal song in-game, but it's not. The infamous unlicensed game ''VideoGame/HongKong97'', which came out a few months before this game, has an [[BrokenRecord uninterrupted 5-second loop]] of ''I Love Beijing Tiananmen'' complete with vocals as the only sound in the game. Most people still agree that ''Tales of Phantasia'' does it much better than ''VideoGame/HongKong97'', though.
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** Wyvern in the SNES version. He appears at the end of an extremely brutal and long BonusDungeon, but his only attacks were a physical attack that was strong but could be quickly healed by your cleric and creating a pair of stationary fireballs in front of him that would kill Cress in seconds upon contact, but could be absorbed by the armor found earlier in the dungeon and was harmless if you didn't try to jump at Wyvern while the fireballs were active. In the PSX-version, he TookALevelInBadass and took one UpToEleven. His fireballs are no longer stationary but were shot across the entire field and could penetrate your meatshield to hit the characters behind him.

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** Wyvern in the SNES version. He appears at the end of an extremely brutal and long BonusDungeon, but his only attacks were a physical attack that was strong but could be quickly healed by your cleric and creating a pair of stationary fireballs in front of him that would kill Cress in seconds upon contact, but could be absorbed by the armor found earlier in the dungeon and was harmless if you didn't try to jump at Wyvern while the fireballs were active. In the PSX-version, he TookALevelInBadass and took one UpToEleven.up to eleven. His fireballs are no longer stationary but were shot across the entire field and could penetrate your meatshield to hit the characters behind him.
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* NeverLiveItDown: The English GBA version translating "Ragnarok" as "Kangaroo", apparently due to a spellcheck error.
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* FanNickname: Similar to how [[VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia Mithos Yggrdrasil]] had a nickname of "Disco Lord Yggdrasil", Dhaos's final form has been nicknamed "Disco Dhaos".
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* ThatOnePuzzle: The door switches in Castle of Dhaos in the Past. There's a total of 8 switches, four on each side of a dining table, and they must be pressed in pairs at the same time. It would be significantly simpler if it weren't for the fact that Arche's erratic movements will see you fail this sequence repeatedly. It IS possible, albeit insanely difficult, to eventually pull it off, but chances are, after 10 failures, Mint and Claus will get sick of your stupidity first and do it for you.
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* ThatOneBoss: Demital is the first one to qualify as such in the game. He could not only attack with very deadly techniques, but can also summon to heavily damage your party.
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* {{Mondegreen}}: What the heck does ''Gua Toledo'' mean?[[note]]Mint's Japanese VA's attempt at saying "First Aid", coupled with compression artifacts, resulted in several tropers hearing her say this line in the SNES version.[[/note]]
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* PortingDisaster: The worst part is that both of these ports are the only ones which have an official English translation:
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* MagnificentBastard: [[FallenHero Dhaos]], the "[[BigBad Demon King]]," was once the beloved prince of Derris-Karlan who cultivated a prosperous and peaceful kingdom that prided itself on the value of diplomacy and dialogue. When neighboring kingdoms came to arms, Dhaos kept his land out of the war and organized mass aide toward the ailing when the war seemingly approached a conclusion. With his World Tree destroyed and Derris-Karlan threatened, Dhaos was spirited away to Aselia to find a new World Seed to save his land. Gaining an audience to the King of Migards, Dhaos narrowly convinces him to cease all magitechnologcal advancements through the sheer strength of his rhetoric. Framed and coming into conflict with Migards, Dhaos forged a pact with Daemonium and orchestrated a series of brilliant military campaigns meant to subvert their magitechnology for his own gain. Sealed in the Catacombs of Euclid, Dhaos manipulates Mars Uldole into freeing him and subsequently restarts his attempts to destroy Aselia and its inhabitants. Hardships weathering him in his onerous quest to save Derris-Karlan, Dhaos would later express regret for his actions and christen himself as the series' inaugural but eminent WellIntentionedExtremist.
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* MisBlamed: The official translation is often bashed for such things as "removing" adult humor that was ''never in'' the original. The only things that were the translations fault, however, was "Kangaroo" instead of "Ragnarok" and some inconsistencies with ''VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia''.

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* MisBlamed: The official translation is often bashed for such things as "removing" adult humor that was ''never in'' the original. The only things that were the translations translation's fault, however, was "Kangaroo" instead of "Ragnarok" and some inconsistencies with ''VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia''.
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** The English iOS port, an AllegedlyFreeGame, managed to be worse than the GBA port: it has an [[http://kotaku.com/theyve-turned-a-classic-jrpg-into-an-always-online-fr-1510608500 always-online requirement]], an [[PayToWin in-game purchase system]] (necessary, as the difficult was increased, and grinding takes more time than in other versions), the controls are overly sensitive (especially on an iPad), and the opening song and all the skits were removed. The final nail in the coffin was Namco pulled the plug on their server, turning every single copy of the game became a virtual paperweight and screwing over anyone who spend time and money with this.

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** The 2014 English iOS port, an AllegedlyFreeGame, managed to be worse than the GBA port: it has an [[http://kotaku.com/theyve-turned-a-classic-jrpg-into-an-always-online-fr-1510608500 always-online requirement]], an [[PayToWin in-game purchase system]] (necessary, as the difficult was increased, and grinding takes more time than in other versions), the controls are overly sensitive (especially on an iPad), and the opening song and all the skits were removed. The final nail in the coffin was Namco pulled the plug on their server, server only six months after its release, turning every single copy of the game became into a virtual paperweight and screwing over anyone who spend spent time and money with this.

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