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** "Catching Fire." Deryck apparently started writing it about how much he missed his wife while she was away, but it gradually evolved into a song about the number of public figures (especially his fellow musicians like Chester Bennington and Chris Cornell) who had committed suicide. In the end, her turned in an extremely emotional song about wanting to tell the people who you love how you feel about them before it's too late.
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** "Catching Fire." Deryck apparently started writing it about how much he missed his wife while she was away, but it gradually evolved into a song about the number of public figures (especially his fellow musicians like [[Music/LinkinPark Chester Bennington Bennington]] and [[Music/{{Soundgarden}} Chris Cornell) Cornell]]) who had committed suicide. In the end, her he turned in an extremely emotional song about wanting to tell the people who you love how you feel about them before it's too late.
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You meant the world to us, I know that it's too late"
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You meant the world to us, I know that it's too late"late"\\
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** "Never There," which is about Deryck's DisappearedDad and the complicated feeling he has about what little of a relationship they had to begin with.
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** "Never There," which is about Deryck's DisappearedDad and the complicated feeling he has about what little of a relationship they had to begin with.with, as well as an ode to his loving singer mother.
** "Catching Fire." Deryck apparently started writing it about how much he missed his wife while she was away, but it gradually evolved into a song about the number of public figures (especially his fellow musicians like Chester Bennington and Chris Cornell) who had committed suicide. In the end, her turned in an extremely emotional song about wanting to tell the people who you love how you feel about them before it's too late.
-->"And if I failed you, well I swear I tried my best\\
But now you're gone, so all your tears can lay to rest\\
Just so you know\\
You meant the world to us, I know that it's too late"
And all I want's another chance, I can't accept that you have left
** "Catching Fire." Deryck apparently started writing it about how much he missed his wife while she was away, but it gradually evolved into a song about the number of public figures (especially his fellow musicians like Chester Bennington and Chris Cornell) who had committed suicide. In the end, her turned in an extremely emotional song about wanting to tell the people who you love how you feel about them before it's too late.
-->"And if I failed you, well I swear I tried my best\\
But now you're gone, so all your tears can lay to rest\\
Just so you know\\
You meant the world to us, I know that it's too late"
And all I want's another chance, I can't accept that you have left
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** While Tom "Brown Tom" Thacker (from Music/{{Gob}}) was by no means ''dis''liked, most agreed that he couldn't hope to fill Dave Baksh's shoes, as Dave was the one responsible for all of the intricate guitar solos and riffs while Thacker's playing was too similar to Deryck's. It didn't help that a caucasian guitarist replacing the Indian-Canadian Baksh made the whole thing seem like an unintentional RaceLift. He'd eventually be RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap once Dave returned.
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** While Tom "Brown Tom" Thacker (from Music/{{Gob}}) was by no means ''dis''liked, most agreed that he couldn't hope to fill Dave Baksh's shoes, as Dave was the one responsible for all of the intricate guitar solos and riffs while Thacker's playing was too similar to Deryck's. It didn't help that a caucasian white guitarist replacing the Indian-Canadian Baksh made the whole thing seem like an unintentional RaceLift. He'd eventually be RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap once Dave returned.
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* GrowingTheBeard: While ''All Killer, No Filler'' is considered a classic 2000s PopPunk album, ''Does This Look Infected?'' is generally agreed to be where Sum 41 album where they settled more into their own sound distinct from other bands of their genre, one more thematically mature while still having the same fun energy of their first album and determined the sound of all their future albums.
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* GrowingTheBeard: While ''All Killer, No Filler'' is considered a classic 2000s PopPunk album, ''Does This Look Infected?'' is generally agreed to be where Sum 41 album where they settled more into their own sound distinct from other bands of their genre, one more thematically mature while still having the same fun energy of their first album and determined the sound of all their future albums.
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* EvenBetterSequel: A lot of fans feel this way about "Does This Look Infected?", especially since it determined their direction from then on out.
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* GrowingTheBeard: While ''All Killer, No Filler'' is considered a classic 2000s PopPunk album, ''Does This Look Infected?'' is generally agreed to be where Sum 41 album where they settled more into their own sound distinct from other bands of their genre, one more thematically mature while still having the same fun energy of their first album and determined the sound of all their future albums.
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* TrueArtIsAngsty: As mentioned above, while their first album is considered a fun product of it's time, the more thematically and sonically mature ''Does This Look Infected?'' is agreed to be an improvement in every way. The fact that all of their music since then has stuck with the DarkerAndEdgier approach speaks to a consensus that they're one of the few bands of [[PopPunk their genre]] to pull this trope off successfully.
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* FriendlyFandoms: With fellow angsty 2000s band Music/LinkinPark. It doesn't hurt that both bands seems to be good friends in real life, to the point that Deryck has performed with the surviving members of LP a few times following Chester Bennington's death (and is generally agreed among fans to be the best choice should LP decide to continue with a new vocalist).
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* SugarWiki/MostWonderfulSound: Deryck's joyous shout of "ZUMMO!" whenever he signals Frank Zummo to play a fill.
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** The first video for "Makes No Different" includes candid footage of the band committing very real acts of petty violence with Super Soakers, including robbing a pizza place. While morally questionable in 2000, two decades worth of gun violence becoming more controversial and minimum wage workers receiving more sympathy on social media makes the boys look less like fun-loving teens and more like [[TeensAreMonsters terrorists]]. The ubiquity of cell phones also means that those random pedestrians getting sprayed would be less mildly annoyed about their clothes getting wet and more alarmed about their expensive phones getting damaged.
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** The first video for "Makes No Different" includes candid footage of the band committing very real acts of petty violence with Super Soakers, including robbing a pizza place. While morally questionable in 2000, two decades worth of gun violence becoming more controversial and minimum wage workers receiving more sympathy on social media makes the boys look their crimes seem less like fun-loving teens harmless fun and more like [[TeensAreMonsters terrorists]]. just crimes. The ubiquity of cell phones also means that those random innocent pedestrians getting sprayed with water would be less mildly annoyed about their clothes getting wet and more alarmed about their expensive phones getting damaged.
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** The first video for "Makes No Different" includes candid footage of the band committing very real acts of petty violence with Super Soakers, including robbing a pizza place. While morally questionable in 2000, two decades worth of gun violence becoming more controversial and minimum wage workers receiving more sympathy on social media makes the boys look less like fun-loving teens and more like [[TeensAreMonsters terrorists]]. The ubiquity of electronic devices also means that those random pedestrians getting sprayed would be freaking out over their phones being damaged more than their clothes being wet.
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** The first video for "Makes No Different" includes candid footage of the band committing very real acts of petty violence with Super Soakers, including robbing a pizza place. While morally questionable in 2000, two decades worth of gun violence becoming more controversial and minimum wage workers receiving more sympathy on social media makes the boys look less like fun-loving teens and more like [[TeensAreMonsters terrorists]]. The ubiquity of electronic devices cell phones also means that those random pedestrians getting sprayed would be freaking out over their phones being damaged more than less mildly annoyed about their clothes being wet.getting wet and more alarmed about their expensive phones getting damaged.
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** "Never There," which is about Deryck's DisappearedDad and the complicated feeling he has about what little of a relationship they had to begin with.
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** Songs like "Slipping Away", "Pieces", and especially "Angels With Dirty Faces" become much darker and tragic when you remember that Deryck's life was falling apart due to his alcoholism, and that he very nearly died due to this.
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** Songs like "Slipping Away", "Pieces", and especially "Angels With Dirty Faces" become much darker and tragic when you remember that Deryck's life was falling apart due to his alcoholism, and that he very nearly died due it came dangerously close to this.killing him.
** The line "I was drinking underage/I belong onstage" in "What We're All About" sounds a lot less cool knowing that Deryck ''was'' an alcoholic for many years (although he didn't sing that line).
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* ValuesDissonance: The first video for "Makes No Different" includes candid footage of the band committing very real acts of petty violence with Super Soakers, including robbing a pizza place. While morally questionable in 2000, two decades worth of gun violence becoming more controversial and minimum wage workers receiving more sympathy on social media makes the boys look less like fun-loving teens and more like [[TeensAreMonsters terrorists]]. The ubiquity of electronic devices also means that those random pedestrians getting sprayed would be freaking out over their phones being damaged more than their clothes being wet.
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* ValuesDissonance: ValuesDissonance
** The first video for "Makes No Different" includes candid footage of the band committing very real acts of petty violence with Super Soakers, including robbing a pizza place. While morally questionable in 2000, two decades worth of gun violence becoming more controversial and minimum wage workers receiving more sympathy on social media makes the boys look less like fun-loving teens and more like [[TeensAreMonsters terrorists]]. The ubiquity of electronic devices also means that those random pedestrians getting sprayed would be freaking out over their phones being damaged more than their clothes beingwet.wet.
** In an era where the longterm trauma of underage people being exposed to things like drugs and sex is taken a lot more seriously, the line about drinking underage in "What We're All About" doesn't feel like something to brag about.
** The first video for "Makes No Different" includes candid footage of the band committing very real acts of petty violence with Super Soakers, including robbing a pizza place. While morally questionable in 2000, two decades worth of gun violence becoming more controversial and minimum wage workers receiving more sympathy on social media makes the boys look less like fun-loving teens and more like [[TeensAreMonsters terrorists]]. The ubiquity of electronic devices also means that those random pedestrians getting sprayed would be freaking out over their phones being damaged more than their clothes being
** In an era where the longterm trauma of underage people being exposed to things like drugs and sex is taken a lot more seriously, the line about drinking underage in "What We're All About" doesn't feel like something to brag about.
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** Oddly enough, "War" vs "Centuries" by Music/FallOutBoy
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** Oddly enough, "War" vs "Centuries" by Music/FallOutBoy
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* WereStillRelevantDammit: Parodied in the video for "Still Waiting," which shows the band at the mercy of a hopelessly out-of-touch record executive (Will Sasso). He starts by kissing up to the band despite not having listened to their new album, assuming it's probably all sorts of songs about skateboarding and [[BreakupSong getting dumped]]," then convinces them to change the band's name to The Sums and even adapt Scandinavian-sounding stage names to cash in on the GarageRock revival acts like Music/TheHives, Music/TheWhiteStripes, Music/TheVines and Music/TheStrokes (the resulting video being a direct parody of the "Last Night" video) and because "number bands" like Music/Blink182 and [[Music/GreenDay Green Day 75]] are out of style.
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* ValuesDissonance: The first video for "Makes No Different" includes candid footage of the band committing very real acts of petty violence with Super Soakers, including robbing a pizza place. While morally questionable in 2000, two decades worth of gun violence becoming more controversial and minimum wage workers receiving more sympathy on social media makes the boys look less like fun-loving teens and more like [[TeensAreMonsters terrorists]]. The ubiquity of electronic devices also means that those random pedestrians getting sprayed would be freaking out over their phones being damaged more than their clothes being wet.
* WereStillRelevantDammit: Parodied in the video for "Still Waiting," which shows the band at the mercy of a [[KnowNothingKnowItAll hopelesslyout-of-touch out-of-touch]] record executive (Will Sasso). He starts by kissing up to the band despite not having listened to their new album, assuming it's probably all sorts of songs about skateboarding and [[BreakupSong getting dumped]]," then convinces them to change the band's name to The Sums and even adapt Scandinavian-sounding stage names to cash in on the GarageRock revival acts like Music/TheHives, Music/TheWhiteStripes, Music/TheVines and Music/TheStrokes (the resulting video being a direct parody of the "Last Night" video) and because "number bands" like Music/Blink182 and [[Music/GreenDay Green Day 75]] are out of style.
* WereStillRelevantDammit: Parodied in the video for "Still Waiting," which shows the band at the mercy of a [[KnowNothingKnowItAll hopelessly
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** While Tom "Brown Tom" Thacker (from Music/{{Gob}}) was by no means ''dis''liked, it's generally agreed that he couldn't ever hope to full Dave Baksh's shoes. It didn't help that his replacement of the Indian Baksh seemed like an unintentional RaceLift, though he was much more warmly received when Dave returned.
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** While Tom "Brown Tom" Thacker (from Music/{{Gob}}) was by no means ''dis''liked, it's generally most agreed that he couldn't ever hope to full fill Dave Baksh's shoes. shoes, as Dave was the one responsible for all of the intricate guitar solos and riffs while Thacker's playing was too similar to Deryck's. It didn't help that his replacement of a caucasian guitarist replacing the Indian Indian-Canadian Baksh seemed made the whole thing seem like an unintentional RaceLift, though he was much more warmly received when RaceLift. He'd eventually be RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap once Dave returned.
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* LyricalDissonance "Underclass Hero" sounds like a happy song, but the lyrics "Burning the flag!" and "Everyone sing- down with the mass!" are a bit jarring first listen.
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* AndYouThoughtItWouldFail: Deryck admitted that the Island/Def Jam had more faith in them releasing "Still Waiting" as the first single off of ''Does This Look Infected?'' despite it being so radically different from their previous one, which had only been release a few months prior. Not only was a it a hit for the band, but is near-universally considered a GrowingTheBeard moment by fans.
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* FaceOfTheBand: Deryck Whibley. Even before he became the last remaining founding member in 2014 for a time, the other members seemed to agree that the band was really his baby.
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* FaceOfTheBand: Deryck Whibley. Even before he became during the last remaining time between ''Screaming Bloody Murder'' and ''13 Voices'' when [[IAmTheBand he was the only founding member in 2014 for a time, to remain]], the other members others seemed to agree that the band was really his baby.
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** "So Long Goodbye," which was a perfect choice for being the last song on ''Underclass Hero.''
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** "So Long Goodbye," which was a perfect choice for being the last song on a closer to ''Underclass Hero.''''
* WereStillRelevantDammit: Parodied in the video for "Still Waiting," which shows the band at the mercy of a hopelessly out-of-touch record executive (Will Sasso). He starts by kissing up to the band despite not having listened to their new album, assuming it's probably all sorts of songs about skateboarding and [[BreakupSong getting dumped]]," then convinces them to change the band's name to The Sums and even adapt Scandinavian-sounding stage names to cash in on the GarageRock revival acts like Music/TheHives, Music/TheWhiteStripes, Music/TheVines and Music/TheStrokes (the resulting video being a direct parody of the "Last Night" video) and because "number bands" like Music/Blink182 and [[Music/GreenDay Green Day 75]] are out of style.
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* WereStillRelevantDammit: Parodied in the video for "Still Waiting," which shows the band at the mercy of a hopelessly out-of-touch record executive (Will Sasso). He starts by kissing up to the band despite not having listened to their new album, assuming it's probably all sorts of songs about skateboarding and [[BreakupSong getting dumped]]," then convinces them to change the band's name to The Sums and even adapt Scandinavian-sounding stage names to cash in on the GarageRock revival acts like Music/TheHives, Music/TheWhiteStripes, Music/TheVines and Music/TheStrokes (the resulting video being a direct parody of the "Last Night" video) and because "number bands" like Music/Blink182 and [[Music/GreenDay Green Day 75]] are out of style.
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* ExecutiveMeddling:
** {{Parodied}} in their "Still Waiting" music video. At the start, their record label executive (portrayed by Will Sasso) renames the band and its individual members, stating that "number bands are out" and "what's in now is 'the'." It also parodies the executives' (supposed) lack of knowledge about music and musicians with Sasso saying, that although he has "not heard the new album, it's probably all sorts of songs about skateboarding and [[BreakupSong getting dumped]]" and stating band names like [[Music/GreenDay Green Day 75]] or [[Music/LedZeppelin The Led Zeppelins]]. The whole thing was a jab at the early 2000s GarageRock revival, which gave rise to bands like Music/TheStrokes, Music/TheHives, Music/TheWhiteStripes and Music/TheVines. The resulting PerformanceVideo directly parodies the Strokes' video for "Last Night."
** And then happened for real when "Screaming Bloody Murder" didn't get a single release even after the band had already filmed a video.
** {{Parodied}} in their "Still Waiting" music video. At the start, their record label executive (portrayed by Will Sasso) renames the band and its individual members, stating that "number bands are out" and "what's in now is 'the'." It also parodies the executives' (supposed) lack of knowledge about music and musicians with Sasso saying, that although he has "not heard the new album, it's probably all sorts of songs about skateboarding and [[BreakupSong getting dumped]]" and stating band names like [[Music/GreenDay Green Day 75]] or [[Music/LedZeppelin The Led Zeppelins]]. The whole thing was a jab at the early 2000s GarageRock revival, which gave rise to bands like Music/TheStrokes, Music/TheHives, Music/TheWhiteStripes and Music/TheVines. The resulting PerformanceVideo directly parodies the Strokes' video for "Last Night."
** And then happened for real when "Screaming Bloody Murder" didn't get a single release even after the band had already filmed a video.
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* MemeticMutation: If you go onto Youtube and look up "We're to Blame," click on any video and there will be tons of comments referencing Film/GodzillaFinalWars.
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* MemeticMutation: MemeticMutation:
** If you go onto Youtube and look up "We're to Blame," click on any video and there will be tons of comments referencingFilm/GodzillaFinalWars.Film/GodzillaFinalWars.
** If you go onto Youtube and look up "Noots," click on any video and there will be tons of comments referencing Film/FantasticFour2005.
** If you go onto Youtube and look up "We're to Blame," click on any video and there will be tons of comments referencing
** If you go onto Youtube and look up "Noots," click on any video and there will be tons of comments referencing Film/FantasticFour2005.
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* EarWorm:
** "Fat Lip," "In Too Deep," "Still Waiting," "Screaming Bloody Murder," "Over My Head (Better Off Dead)." Also counts as SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic.
** "The Hell Song" and their single "Fake My Own Death" as well.
** "Some say, you're better off without, knowing what life is all about..."
** "NOW LET IT BLEED!"
** [[LyricalColdOpen SO WHAT AM I FIGHTING FOR!?]]
** "Nothing on my back, it's not enough to bring me down..."
** "Mom and Dad... you gave me everything you never had... but all I want to be is... an... ASTRONAUT!"
** "Fat Lip," "In Too Deep," "Still Waiting," "Screaming Bloody Murder," "Over My Head (Better Off Dead)." Also counts as SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic.
** "The Hell Song" and their single "Fake My Own Death" as well.
** "Some say, you're better off without, knowing what life is all about..."
** "NOW LET IT BLEED!"
** [[LyricalColdOpen SO WHAT AM I FIGHTING FOR!?]]
** "Nothing on my back, it's not enough to bring me down..."
** "Mom and Dad... you gave me everything you never had... but all I want to be is... an... ASTRONAUT!"
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** The guitar at the very beginning of "King of Contradiction" sounds eerily enough like the guitar sound effect on GuitarHero before you play your song.
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** The guitar at the very beginning of "King of Contradiction" sounds eerily enough like the guitar sound effect on GuitarHero VideoGame/GuitarHero before you play your song.
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* BrokenBase: Several.
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* BrokenBase: Several.Several:
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* EarWorm: "Fat Lip," "In Too Deep," "Still Waiting," "Screaming Bloody Murder," "Over My Head (Better Off Dead)." Also counts as SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic.
** "The Hell Song" and their newest single "Fake My Own Death" as well.
** "The Hell Song" and their newest single "Fake My Own Death" as well.
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* EarWorm: EarWorm:
** "Fat Lip," "In Too Deep," "Still Waiting," "Screaming Bloody Murder," "Over My Head (Better Off Dead)." Also counts as SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic.
** "The Hell Song" and theirnewest single "Fake My Own Death" as well.
** "Fat Lip," "In Too Deep," "Still Waiting," "Screaming Bloody Murder," "Over My Head (Better Off Dead)." Also counts as SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic.
** "The Hell Song" and their
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* ExecutiveMeddling: {{Parodied}} in their "Still Waiting" music video. At the start, their record label executive (portrayed by Will Sasso) renames the band and its individual members, stating that "number bands are out" and "what's in now is 'the'." It also parodies the executives' (supposed) lack of knowledge about music and musicians with Sasso saying, that although he has "not heard the new album, it's probably all sorts of songs about skateboarding and [[BreakupSong getting dumped]]" and stating band names like [[Music/GreenDay Green Day 75]] or [[Music/LedZeppelin The Led Zeppelins]]. The whole thing was a jab at the early 2000s GarageRock revival, which gave rise to bands like Music/TheStrokes, Music/TheHives, Music/TheWhiteStripes and Music/TheVines. The resulting PerformanceVideo directly parodies the Strokes' video for "Last Night."
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* ExecutiveMeddling: ExecutiveMeddling:
** {{Parodied}} in their "Still Waiting" music video. At the start, their record label executive (portrayed by Will Sasso) renames the band and its individual members, stating that "number bands are out" and "what's in now is 'the'." It also parodies the executives' (supposed) lack of knowledge about music and musicians with Sasso saying, that although he has "not heard the new album, it's probably all sorts of songs about skateboarding and [[BreakupSong getting dumped]]" and stating band names like [[Music/GreenDay Green Day 75]] or [[Music/LedZeppelin The Led Zeppelins]]. The whole thing was a jab at the early 2000s GarageRock revival, which gave rise to bands like Music/TheStrokes, Music/TheHives, Music/TheWhiteStripes and Music/TheVines. The resulting PerformanceVideo directly parodies the Strokes' video for "Last Night."
** {{Parodied}} in their "Still Waiting" music video. At the start, their record label executive (portrayed by Will Sasso) renames the band and its individual members, stating that "number bands are out" and "what's in now is 'the'." It also parodies the executives' (supposed) lack of knowledge about music and musicians with Sasso saying, that although he has "not heard the new album, it's probably all sorts of songs about skateboarding and [[BreakupSong getting dumped]]" and stating band names like [[Music/GreenDay Green Day 75]] or [[Music/LedZeppelin The Led Zeppelins]]. The whole thing was a jab at the early 2000s GarageRock revival, which gave rise to bands like Music/TheStrokes, Music/TheHives, Music/TheWhiteStripes and Music/TheVines. The resulting PerformanceVideo directly parodies the Strokes' video for "Last Night."
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* HoYay: Cone gets involved in [[EvenTheGuysWantHim a lot]] of these moments.
** Cone and Steve
*** From the Campus Takeover video, any time they wrestle- Cone doesn't even try to fight back, and he even [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything moans suggestively at one point.]]
*** During each performance of "Pain For Pleasure," pre-Steve leaving, Steve would always go up behind Cone and hump him.
*** [[http://www.ceknito.sk/video/374980 From an online video]] where Steve and Cone are [[ItMakesSenseInContext cocaine dealers,]] Steve said a line that CrossesTheLineTwice about Cone's dick and then followed it up with, [[VerbalTic "Just kidding,]] [[BlatantLies of course!"]]
** Cone and Deryck
*** In the "Cross Your Ts and Gouge Your Is" video, [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything Deryck and Cone]] [[http://i.imgur.com/zULFJQy.png almost kiss]], [[http://i.imgur.com/cieYoPT.png and then look at the camera-]] Cone like a deer in the headlights, and [[Moe Deryck smiling.]]
** Cone and Tom
*** [[https://www.instagram.com/p/7DoKtpqbDI/ Yet another instance]] of an almost kiss between him and a guy- this time, at Deryck's own wedding! (It doesn't help that the caption says "Love is in the air," either.)
*** On Twitter, Tom posted a picture of [[https://twitter.com/TomThacker41/status/847895408202461185 him in a dress,]] and Cone responded to it with [[https://twitter.com/Cone41/status/848226196194295809 "Bring back that look!"]]
*** Cone is pretty adamant about [[https://www.instagram.com/p/BUaNISpjk7R/?taken-by=dummyado this dress thing.]]
*** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opKZLSNL2-c Cone kissed Tom in this video.]] Granted, they were [[AlcoholInducedIdiocy drunk]], but Cone was grinning like the Cheshire Cat...
** Cone and Steve
*** From the Campus Takeover video, any time they wrestle- Cone doesn't even try to fight back, and he even [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything moans suggestively at one point.]]
*** During each performance of "Pain For Pleasure," pre-Steve leaving, Steve would always go up behind Cone and hump him.
*** [[http://www.ceknito.sk/video/374980 From an online video]] where Steve and Cone are [[ItMakesSenseInContext cocaine dealers,]] Steve said a line that CrossesTheLineTwice about Cone's dick and then followed it up with, [[VerbalTic "Just kidding,]] [[BlatantLies of course!"]]
** Cone and Deryck
*** In the "Cross Your Ts and Gouge Your Is" video, [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything Deryck and Cone]] [[http://i.imgur.com/zULFJQy.png almost kiss]], [[http://i.imgur.com/cieYoPT.png and then look at the camera-]] Cone like a deer in the headlights, and [[Moe Deryck smiling.]]
** Cone and Tom
*** [[https://www.instagram.com/p/7DoKtpqbDI/ Yet another instance]] of an almost kiss between him and a guy- this time, at Deryck's own wedding! (It doesn't help that the caption says "Love is in the air," either.)
*** On Twitter, Tom posted a picture of [[https://twitter.com/TomThacker41/status/847895408202461185 him in a dress,]] and Cone responded to it with [[https://twitter.com/Cone41/status/848226196194295809 "Bring back that look!"]]
*** Cone is pretty adamant about [[https://www.instagram.com/p/BUaNISpjk7R/?taken-by=dummyado this dress thing.]]
*** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opKZLSNL2-c Cone kissed Tom in this video.]] Granted, they were [[AlcoholInducedIdiocy drunk]], but Cone was grinning like the Cheshire Cat...
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* PrettyBoy: Cone was often called this. He was described as being "the well known bass player of the band with the boy band looks." But of course, he didn't exactly act like one...
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* SignatureSong: "Fat Lip," "In Too Deep" and "Makes No Difference" are all candidates.
* SuspiciouslySimilarSong: Perhaps moreso than any of their PopPunk contemporaries, especially their more recent stuff, which is saying something considering that the genre is known for this kind of thing.
* SuspiciouslySimilarSong: Perhaps moreso than any of their PopPunk contemporaries, especially their more recent stuff, which is saying something considering that the genre is known for this kind of thing.
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* SignatureSong: "Fat Lip," "In Too Deep" Deep", and "Makes No Difference" are all candidates.
* SuspiciouslySimilarSong: Perhaps moreso than any of their PopPunk contemporaries,especially their more recent stuff, which is saying something considering that the genre is known for this kind of thing.thing:
* SuspiciouslySimilarSong: Perhaps moreso than any of their PopPunk contemporaries,
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* TearJerker
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* TearJerkerTearJerker:
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** "So Long Goodbye," which was a perfect choice for being the last song on ''Underclass Hero.''
** Deryck's life in general. His alcoholism basically destroyed his liver and kidneys and left him inches from death. He finally managed to kick the habit once his doctor informed him that one more drink would kill him. He may be clean now, but think about it: if he relapses ''once'' it will be the end of him. That's both tragic and terrifying. But probably most tragic of all is that even though he's clean now, the damage to his body has be done already. The odds of him living a long life are slim to none at this point.
** Deryck's life in general. His alcoholism basically destroyed his liver and kidneys and left him inches from death. He finally managed to kick the habit once his doctor informed him that one more drink would kill him. He may be clean now, but think about it: if he relapses ''once'' it will be the end of him. That's both tragic and terrifying. But probably most tragic of all is that even though he's clean now, the damage to his body has be done already. The odds of him living a long life are slim to none at this point.
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** "So Long Goodbye," which was a perfect choice for being the last song on ''Underclass Hero.''
** Deryck's life in general. His alcoholism basically destroyed his liver and kidneys and left him inches from death. He finally managed to kick the habit once his doctor informed him that one more drink would kill him. He may be clean now, but think about it: if he relapses ''once'' it will be the end of him. That's both tragic and terrifying. But probably most tragic of all is that even though he's clean now, the damage to his body has be done already. The odds of him living a long life are slim to none at this point.''
** Deryck's life in general. His alcoholism basically destroyed his liver and kidneys and left him inches from death. He finally managed to kick the habit once his doctor informed him that one more drink would kill him. He may be clean now, but think about it: if he relapses ''once'' it will be the end of him. That's both tragic and terrifying. But probably most tragic of all is that even though he's clean now, the damage to his body has be done already. The odds of him living a long life are slim to none at this point.
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The drummer came back some time later.
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* FaceOfTheBand: Deryck Whibley. Even before he became the last remaining founding member in 2014, the other members seemed to agree that the band was really his baby.
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* FaceOfTheBand: Deryck Whibley. Even before he became the last remaining founding member in 2014, 2014 for a time, the other members seemed to agree that the band was really his baby.
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: In October 2017, Deryck Whibley and Frank Zummo showed up at Music/LinkinPark's tribute show for Chester Bennington. Deryck sang on LP's "The Catalyst" and ''nailed'' it, in one of the best performances of the night. (Also a CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming; according to Mike Shioda, Deryck flew in for the show with only 24 hours notice!)
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* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: In October 2017, Deryck Whibley and Frank Zummo showed up at Music/LinkinPark's tribute show for Chester Bennington. Deryck sang on LP's "The Catalyst" and ''nailed'' it, in one of the best performances of the night. (Also a SugarWiki/{{Heartwarming Moment|s}}; according to Mike Shioda, Deryck flew in for the show with only 24 hours notice!)
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* CrossesTheLineTwice: "A.N.I.C." (aka, "Anna Nicole Is A Fucking Stupid Cunt"). The fact that the band wrote the angriest, most profane song they every recorded about a d-list celebrity is just too absurd to find offensive. It's practically a BigLippedAlligatorMoment, as it's just 40 straight seconds of Deryck [[ClusterFBomb screaming obscenities]].
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* CrossesTheLineTwice: "A.N.I.C." (aka, "Anna Nicole Is A Fucking Stupid Cunt"). The fact that the band wrote the angriest, most profane song they every ever recorded about a d-list celebrity is just too absurd to find offensive. It's practically a BigLippedAlligatorMoment, as it's just 40 straight seconds of Deryck [[ClusterFBomb screaming obscenities]].
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** "Welcome to Hell" vs "Join the Ranks" by Music/RiseAgainst
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** The band probably couldn't have known at the time, but around the time of the "Still Waiting" video, the only other real named "numbers band" Music/Blink182 started going through the internal tensions that would break them up around 2 years later.
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** "Take a Look at Yourself" vs "Man Overboard" by Blink-182, "Welcome to the Black Parade" by My Chemical Romance, and 'Letterbomb' by GreenDay. Yes. They copied THREE songs.
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** "Take a Look at Yourself" vs "Man Overboard" by Blink-182, "Welcome to the Black Parade" by My Chemical Romance, and 'Letterbomb' by GreenDay.Music/GreenDay. Yes. They copied THREE songs.
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** Going back and listening to "Pull The Curtain" now makes the song seem like a cry for help from Deryck.
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** "So Long Goodbye," which was a perfect choice for being the last song on ''Underclass Hero.''
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** "So Long Goodbye," which was a perfect choice for being the last song on ''Underclass Hero.''''
** Deryck's life in general. His alcoholism basically destroyed his liver and kidneys and left him inches from death. He finally managed to kick the habit once his doctor informed him that one more drink would kill him. He may be clean now, but think about it: if he relapses ''once'' it will be the end of him. That's both tragic and terrifying. But probably most tragic of all is that even though he's clean now, the damage to his body has be done already. The odds of him living a long life are slim to none at this point.
** Deryck's life in general. His alcoholism basically destroyed his liver and kidneys and left him inches from death. He finally managed to kick the habit once his doctor informed him that one more drink would kill him. He may be clean now, but think about it: if he relapses ''once'' it will be the end of him. That's both tragic and terrifying. But probably most tragic of all is that even though he's clean now, the damage to his body has be done already. The odds of him living a long life are slim to none at this point.
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** What is their first album, ''Half Hour of Power'' or ''All Killer, No Filler''? The band calls the latter their debut.
*** Which makes sense, as it's their first full-length release. ''Half Hour of Power'' is an EP.
*** Which makes sense, as it's their first full-length release. ''Half Hour of Power'' is an EP.
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** What is their first album, ''Half Hour of Power'' or ''All Killer, No Filler''? The band calls the latter their debut.
***debut. Which makes sense, as it's their first full-length release. ''Half Hour of Power'' is an EP.
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* ExecutiveMeddling: {{Parodied}} in their "Still Waiting" music video. At the start, their record label executive (portrayed by Will Sasso) renames the band and its individual members, stating that "number bands are out" and "what's in now is 'the'." It also parodies the executives' (supposed) lack of knowledge about music and musicians with Sasso saying, that although he has "not heard the new album, it's probably all sorts of songs about skateboarding and [[BreakupSong getting dumped]]" and stating band names like [[Music/GreenDay Green Day 75]] or [[Music/LedZeppelin The Led Zeppelins]].
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* ExecutiveMeddling: {{Parodied}} in their "Still Waiting" music video. At the start, their record label executive (portrayed by Will Sasso) renames the band and its individual members, stating that "number bands are out" and "what's in now is 'the'." It also parodies the executives' (supposed) lack of knowledge about music and musicians with Sasso saying, that although he has "not heard the new album, it's probably all sorts of songs about skateboarding and [[BreakupSong getting dumped]]" and stating band names like [[Music/GreenDay Green Day 75]] or [[Music/LedZeppelin The Led Zeppelins]]. The whole thing was a jab at the early 2000s GarageRock revival, which gave rise to bands like Music/TheStrokes, Music/TheHives, Music/TheWhiteStripes and Music/TheVines. The resulting PerformanceVideo directly parodies the Strokes' video for "Last Night."
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** While Tom "Brown Tom" Thacker was by no means ''dis''liked, it's generally agreed that he couldn't ever hope to full Dave Baksh's shoes. It didn't help that his replacement of the Indian Baksh seemed like an unintentional RaceLift, though he was much more warmly received when Dave returned.
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** While Tom "Brown Tom" Thacker (from Music/{{Gob}}) was by no means ''dis''liked, it's generally agreed that he couldn't ever hope to full Dave Baksh's shoes. It didn't help that his replacement of the Indian Baksh seemed like an unintentional RaceLift, though he was much more warmly received when Dave returned.
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* SignatureSong: "Fat Lip".
** "In Too Deep" as well.
** "In Too Deep" as well.
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* SignatureSong: "Fat Lip".
**Lip," "In Too Deep" as well.and "Makes No Difference" are all candidates.
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