History YMMV / SubMariner

* MagnificentBastard: He is even a part of [[Characters/MarvelComicsTheIlluminati The Illuminati]]. And he is the only Illuminati who's ''also'' part of its rival The Cabal; he likes to be in control of things.

* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: The first Christmas after ComicBook/BuckyBarnes is free of his Winter Soldier programming, he arranges through ComicBook/NickFury to meet with Namor at the grave of their Invaders teammate and sidekick of the original ComicBook/{{Human Torch|1939}}, Toro. Namor tells Bucky that he thought the whole thing was a terrible joke. When Bucky asks him why he came, then, he says that some things are much too serious to joke about, and shakes Bucky's hand, telling him he's glad to see him, so long as Bucky doesn't try to give him a "Criss-mass" present. He asks if Bucky's seen the grave, saying that Toro died a hero, that his simple memorial doesn't do his heroics justice, and that being with him when he died was an honor. The book ends on the implication that Namor is going to sit there and tell Bucky the whole story of Toro's death, and for Namor, the respect and affirmation that he cared about Bucky and Toro and mourned their deaths is downright cuddly.
** His friendship with Jim Hammond, the Human Torch. Jim is one of few people who can both survive one of Namor's tantrums and subdue him long enough for him to come back to his senses, and is therefore also one of few people (alongside Captain America) who knows "the true Namor"; a man who likes cooking, laughs at bad jokes and is generally a compassionate person who despises undue suffering. ''Invaders (2019)'' is all about him realizing Namor is suffering PTSD, that he let him down by not noticing it during their World War 2 days and trying to make up for it by getting the rest of the Invaders to help him. And in ''Namor: Conquered Shores'' (which is set in a BadFuture where humanity is on the verge of extinction), Namor outright admits that he considers Jim Hammond his best friend and would rather die than spend the rest of his days without him; [[HeterosexualLifePartners the two eventually decide to spend their last days together at Jim's android colony]].
** Captain America remembering the time Namor called him his 'brother' during World War 2 and smiling in ''New Avengers #29''.

%%* MagnificentBastard: He is even a part of [[Characters/MarvelComicsTheIlluminati The Illuminati]]. And he is the only Illuminati who's ''also'' part of its rival The Cabal; he likes to be in control of things.

** His friendship with Jim Hammond, the Human Torch. Jim is one of few people who can both survive one of Namor's tantrums and subdue him long enough for him to come back to his senses, and is therefore also one of few people (alongside Captain America) who knows "the true Namor"; a man who likes cooking, laughs at bad jokes and is generally a compassionate person who despises undue suffering. ''Invaders (2019)'' is all about him realizing Namor is suffering PTSD, that he let him down by not noticing it during their World War 2 days and trying to make up for it by getting the rest of the Invaders to help him. And in ''Namor: Conquered Shores'', Namor outright admits that he considers Jim Hammond his best friend and would rather die than spend the rest of his days without him; [[HeterosexualLifePartners the two eventually decide to spend their last days together at Jim's android colony]].

-->"Enough of these pleasantries. And if you attempt to give me a Criss-mass present, ''[[DisproportionateRetribution I will break your arms.]]''"

* DiagnosedByTheAudience: Namor's tendency to go from hero to villain DependingOnTheWriter is explained away as [[BlessedWithSuck a side-effect of his hybrid-physiology]], his brain unable to function at its peak outside of a very specific oxygen level. Given the behavior this imbalance causes ([[ImproperlyParanoid paranoia]], [[TheMoodSwinger passionate mood-swings]], aggressive and standoffish behavior), fans have diagnosed him as having a fictional form of Bipolar Disorder unique to himself.

* CompleteMonster:
** The Lemurian tyrant [[EvilOverlord Naga]] has a reign defined by torture, despotism and mass murder. Having killed and tortured any against him for centuries, Naga loses the source of his eternal youth, the Serpent Crown, and desperately sends his loyal Questors to recover it. Upon regaining his power, Naga returns to torturing and killing his subjects, even [[BadBoss subjecting his most loyal]] to agonizing death for the hell of it and killing the sister of his loyal enforcer Karthon to disguise her corpse as Namor's lover just to hurt him. Upon challenging Namor, Naga makes clear his intent to raze the surface world ostensibly in Set's name, but in truth for his own glory and amusement.
** ''ComicBook/MarvelMysteryComics'' Vol. 1:
*** Issue #41's "Metal Monsters": [[InsaneAdmiral Admiral von Roeder]] is a high-ranking [[ThoseWackyNazis Nazi]] dispatched by [[UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler the Führer himself]] to find and destroy Namor the Sub-Mariner. After quite literally crushing the information he wants out of [[WouldHurtAChild a young boy]] whose corpse he cruelly throws away like garbage, von Roeder decides to [[FinalSolution wipe out not just Namor but everyone associated with him]], invading Namor's undersea city in a giant mech and commanding his army to attack and kill everyone.
*** Issue #84's "Case of the Vanishing Venuses": [[GoodScarsEvilScars Sari Tartar]] is a disfigured film director intent on punishing all those she finds attractive, out of both [[DrivenByEnvy envy]] and pure spiteful [[{{Sadist}} sadism]]. Under the illusion of making a new film, Sari lures dozens of people into her clutches to enslave and [[ColdBloodedTorture torture]] them, [[WhipItGood using a whip]] to personally beat her captives to near-death on a regular basis. When Namor and his partners try to save her victims, Sari captures and subjects the heroic trio to torture before trying to kill them all.
** Annual #1 (June 1991): [[TheCaligula The Keeper of the Flame]], ruler of El Dorado, is the cruelest of the Doradian lineage to have inherited the title of Keeper of the Flame. The "flame" he keeps is that of the fiery extermination chambers into which [[FantasticRacism he rounds up the pacifistic, servile Moloids]], 200 each hour. When he's confronted by Namor, the Keeper tortures him, gloating that [[FinalSolution he's annihilated nearly every Moloid]] and that he, like any human being, [[{{Sadist}} pursues and inflicts pain merely for its own sake]].
** Vol. 2--"Revolution"; issues #3-5: [[NotSoWellIntentionedExtremist Zoran]] is a ruthless Atlantean militant who, disillusioned with the peace that Atlantis has struck with the surface world, attempts to wage war to conquer both land and sea. Zoran and his zealous loyalists slaughter many of their own Atlanteans, while Zoran masterminds terrorist attacks on the surface, having an entire town massacred and later trying to suffocate thousands more people in Seattle. Zoran's primary architect in these attacks is Namor's estranged son, Kamar, whose mind [[ManipulativeBastard Zoran]] has been poisoning with lies for decades.

** The Lemurian tyrant [[EvilOverlord Naga]] has a reign defined by torture, despotism and mass murder. Having killed and tortured any against him for centuries, Naga loses the source of his eternal youth, the Serpent Crown, and desperately sends his loyal Questors to recover it. Upon regaining his power, Naga returns to torturing and killing his subjects, even [[BadBoss subjecting his most loyal]] to agonizing death for the hell of it and killing the sister of his loyal enforcer Karthon to disguise her corpse as Namor's lover just to hurt him. Upon challenging Namor, Naga makes clear his intent to raze the surface world ostensibly in Set's name, but in truth for his own glory and amusement.

** Does he truly love [[ComicBook/InvisibleWoman Sue Storm]] and would make a better partner for her than the emotionally distant and neglectful [[ComicBook/MisterFantastic Reed]]; or is he an obsessed, rapey stalker?

* Squick: Namor being very closely related to a love interest certainly counts.

%%* MagnificentBastard: He is even a part of ComicBook/TheIlluminati. And he is the only Illuminati who's ''also'' part of its rival The Cabal; he likes to be in control of things.

** [[spoiler:Destroying the Earth of the Great Society then reforming the Cabal to destroy worlds]] in ''Comicbook/JonathanHickmansAvengers'' is not so arguable.

** ''ComicBook/MarvelMysteryComics'':

*** Issue #84's "Case of the Vanishing Venuses": [[GoodScarsEvilScars Sari Tartar]] is a disfigured film director intent on punishing all those she finds attractive out of both envy and pure spiteful sadism. Under the illusion of making a new film, Sari lures dozens of people into her clutches to enslave and [[ColdBloodedTorture torture]] them, [[WhipItGood using a whip]] to personally beat her captives to near-death on a regular basis. When Namor and his partners try to save her victims, Sari captures and subjects the heroic trio to torture before trying to kill them all.

** [[http://s15.photobucket.com/user/TheNinjaKitty/media/ws-01-037.jpg.html?t=1259171394 Also...]]

* SugarWiki/FunnyMoments: [[http://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/3661471.html#cutid1 Imperius sex!]]

** Does he truly love Sue Storm and would make a better partner for her than the emotionally distant and neglectful Reed; or is he an obsessed, rapey stalker?

* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: The first Christmas after ComicBook/BuckyBarnes is free of his Winter Soldier programming, he arranges through Nick Fury to meet with Namor at the grave of their Invaders teammate and sidekick of the original Human Torch, Toro. Namor tells Bucky that he thought the whole thing was a terrible joke. When Bucky asks him why he came, then, he says that some things are much too serious to joke about, and shakes Bucky's hand, telling him he's glad to see him, so long as Bucky doesn't try to give him a "Criss-mass" present. He asks if Bucky's seen the grave, saying that Toro died a hero, that his simple memorial doesn't do his heroics justice, and that being with him when he died was an honor. The book ends on the implication that Namor is going to sit there and tell Bucky the whole story of Toro's death, and for Namor, the respect and affirmation that he cared about Bucky and Toro and mourned their deaths is downright cuddly.

** [[spoiler: His attack on Wakanda]] in ''ComicBook/AvengersVsXMen'', though one could argue that he was mad at the time.

** For Tony it was slaughtering Roxxon employees for drilling oil in the ocean in a campaign of militant border control for the Oceans. For Steve it was infiltrating the American Navy with Atlantean spies and sneaking an agent into American towns to forcibly convert human citizens into only being able to survive underwater giving them no choice but to immigrate to Atlantis.

** Attuma's original headgear looks like a misshapen woollen hat, but later artists have changed into something more dramatically creditible.

*** Except it saved 2 universes.

* MagnificentBastard: He is even a part of ComicBook/TheIlluminati. And he is the only Illuminati who's ''also'' part of its rival The Cabal; he likes to be in control of things.