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* BrokenBase: One of the more notably divisive ''Voyager'' episodes. People on one side of the fence either hated "Demon" and hated revisiting the concept, thought that its exploration on whether the copies of the crew were truly real and the fact that [[DownerEnding they eventually lost their sentience]] was just too sad, or, on the flip side, [[EightDeadlyWords didn't care for the alternate crew because they weren't the real Voyager crew]] and found the episode pointless. People who like this episode admire its strong dramatic elements and actually enjoy that it was an UnexpectedlyDarkEpisode and explored deep themes.

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* BrokenBase: One of the more notably divisive ''Voyager'' episodes. People on one side of the fence either hated "Demon" and hated revisiting the concept, thought that its exploration on whether the copies of the crew were truly real and the fact that [[DownerEnding they eventually lost their sentience]] was just too sad, or, on the flip side, [[EightDeadlyWords didn't care for the alternate crew because they weren't the real Voyager crew]] crew and found the episode pointless. People who like this episode admire its strong dramatic elements and actually enjoy that it was an UnexpectedlyDarkEpisode and explored deep themes.
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** The fate of the duplicate ''Voyager'' is an all-too common one. Ships have disappeared at sea without a trace, their ultimate fate and the stories of their passengers lost to the waves.

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** The fate of the duplicate ''Voyager'' is an all-too all too common one. Ships have disappeared at sea without a trace, their ultimate fate and the stories of their passengers lost to the waves.
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** The fate of the duplicate ''Voyager'' is an all-too common one. Ships have disappeared at sea without a trace, their ultimate fate and the stories of their passengers lost to the waves.

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* BrokenBase: One of the more notably divisive ''Voyager'' episodes. People on one side of the fence either hated "Demon" and hated revisiting the concept, thought that its exploration on whether the copies of the crew were truly real and the fact that [[DownerEnding they eventually lost their sentience]] was just too sad, or, on the flip side, [[EightDeadlyWords didn't care for the alternate crew because they weren't the real Voyager crew]] and found the episode pointless. People who like this episode admire its strong dramatic elements and actually enjoy that it was an UnexpectedlyDarkEpisode and explored deep themes. The episode was a [[AlienNoninterferenceClause Prime Directive]] episode, showing the consequences of Janeway's actions in ''Demon''.

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* AccidentalAesop: It has been argued by many commentators, including by Website/SFDebris in [[https://www.sfdebris.com/videos/startrek/v913.php his review]], that the episode is unintentionally one of the strongest arguments in favor of the [[ObstructiveCodeOfConduct oft-maligned]] PrimeDirective that ''Franchise/StarTrek'' has ever produced. In "[[Recap/StarTrekVoyagerS4E22Demon Demon]]", the ''Voyager'' crew changed the nature of a species through well-intentioned meddling, and as a direct consequence, in this episode they're completely wiped out.
* BrokenBase: One of the more notably divisive ''Voyager'' episodes. People on one side of the fence either hated "Demon" and hated revisiting the concept, thought that its exploration on whether the copies of the crew were truly real and the fact that [[DownerEnding they eventually lost their sentience]] was just too sad, or, on the flip side, [[EightDeadlyWords didn't care for the alternate crew because they weren't the real Voyager crew]] and found the episode pointless. People who like this episode admire its strong dramatic elements and actually enjoy that it was an UnexpectedlyDarkEpisode and explored deep themes. The episode was a [[AlienNoninterferenceClause Prime Directive]] episode, showing the consequences of Janeway's actions in ''Demon''.



** The duplicate Voyager had several adventures on its own. This could have come up later with the real Voyager insisting they didn't do this or that, and yet presented with "proof" that they did.

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** The duplicate Voyager had several adventures on its own. This could have come up later with the real Voyager insisting they didn't do this or that, and yet presented with "proof" that they did.did.
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* BrokenBase: One of the more notably divisive ''Voyager'' episodes. People on one side of the fence hated "Demon" and hated revisiting the concept. People who like this episode admire its strong dramatic elements. The episode was a [[AlienNoninterferenceClause Prime Directive]] episode, showing the consequences of Janeway's actions in ''Demon''.
** There's also an extraordinarily deep perspective of what is "real" and even the nature of existence itself. Is a 100% duplicate real? It believed it is. At some level, what's the difference? And the implication of them returning to the Demon planet is losing their sentience, analogous to humans returning to undifferentiated proteins in the primordial soup. Essentially, it's suggesting a form of suicide as survival. What is life if not fighting for its current form?
* FridgeBrilliance: At first blush, even after watching the episode, the use of the word "oblivion" in the title seems to be just a synonym for "destruction, annihilation." But "oblivion" literally means a state of having been forgotten, which is what's ''specific'' about the tragedy of the dupicate ''Voyager'': not only are they destroyed, but there's not even enough left for the original ''Voyager'' to realize who they even were, and all of their experiences since "Demon" are forgotten and lost.
* FridgeHorror: Captain Janeway's duplicate happily mentions "Ensign Harper's new baby" near the beginning of the episode. Which reminds us, Naomi Wildman and her mother presumably have a duplicate aboard that ship too...
* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: For some who didn't like "Demon."

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* BrokenBase: One of the more notably divisive ''Voyager'' episodes. People on one side of the fence either hated "Demon" and hated revisiting the concept. concept, thought that its exploration on whether the copies of the crew were truly real and the fact that [[DownerEnding they eventually lost their sentience]] was just too sad, or, on the flip side, [[EightDeadlyWords didn't care for the alternate crew because they weren't the real Voyager crew]] and found the episode pointless. People who like this episode admire its strong dramatic elements.elements and actually enjoy that it was an UnexpectedlyDarkEpisode and explored deep themes. The episode was a [[AlienNoninterferenceClause Prime Directive]] episode, showing the consequences of Janeway's actions in ''Demon''.
* FridgeBrilliance:
** There's also an extraordinarily deep perspective of what is "real" and even the nature of existence itself. Is a 100% duplicate real? It believed it is. At some level, what's the difference? And the implication of them returning to the Demon planet is losing their sentience, analogous to humans returning to undifferentiated proteins in the primordial soup. Essentially, it's suggesting a form of suicide as survival. What is life if not fighting for its current form?
* FridgeBrilliance:
At first blush, even after watching the episode, the use of the word "oblivion" in the title seems to be just a synonym for "destruction, annihilation." But "oblivion" literally means a state of having been forgotten, which is what's ''specific'' about the tragedy of the dupicate ''Voyager'': not only are they destroyed, but there's not even enough left for the original ''Voyager'' to realize who they even were, and all of their experiences since "Demon" are forgotten and lost.
** The fact that the first few people to get "sick" or "die" were engineers makes sense, since the radiation was from the warp core.
* FridgeHorror: Captain Janeway's duplicate happily mentions "Ensign Harper's new baby" near the beginning of the episode. Which reminds us, Naomi Wildman and her mother presumably have a duplicate aboard that ship too...
too... Not to mention the fact that the "new baby", unlike most of the people on the alternate ship, was the only one who ''wasn't'' a copy but rather an entirely new lifeform.
* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: For some who didn't like "Demon.""Demon", they thought this episode was better for its exploration on whether ClonesArePeopleToo or not.



** The scene where Tom describes the honeymoon he has planned with B'Elanna as she slowly slips away.

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** The scene where Tom describes the honeymoon he has planned with B'Elanna as she slowly slips away.away ([[ImMelting literally]]). Even though it's not the real Tom and B'Elanna, it's still sad to see a couple not being able to go on their honeymoon because one of them is dead.
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* FridgeBrilliance: At first blush, even after watching the episode, the use of the word "oblivion" in the title seems to be just a synonym for "destruction, annihilation." But "oblivion" literally means a state of having been forgotten, which is what's ''specific'' about the tragedy of the dupicate ''Voyager'': not only are they destroyed, but there's not even enough left for the original ''Voyager'' to realize who they even were, and all of their experiences since "Demon" are forgotten and lost.
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** There's also an extraordinarily deep perspective of what is "real" and even the nature of existence itself. Is a 100% duplicate real? It believed it is. At some level, what's the difference? And the implication of them returning to the Demon planet is losing their sentience, analogous to humans returning to undifferentiated proteins in the primordial soup. Essentially, it's suggesting a form of suicide as survival. What is life if not fighting for its current form?
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* BrokenBase: One of the more notably divisive ''Voyager'' episodes. People on one side of the fence hated "Demon" and hated revisiting the concept. People who like this episode admire its strong dramatic elements. Website/SFDebris noted that the episode was a [[AlienNoninterferenceClause Prime Directive]] episode, showing the consequences of Janeway's actions in ''Demon''.

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* BrokenBase: One of the more notably divisive ''Voyager'' episodes. People on one side of the fence hated "Demon" and hated revisiting the concept. People who like this episode admire its strong dramatic elements. Website/SFDebris noted that the The episode was a [[AlienNoninterferenceClause Prime Directive]] episode, showing the consequences of Janeway's actions in ''Demon''.
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* BrokenBase: One of the more notably divisive ''Voyager'' episodes. People on one side of the fence hated "Demon" and hated revisiting the concept. People who like this episode admire its strong dramatic elements. WebVideo/SFDebris noted that the episode was a [[AlienNoninterferenceClause Prime Directive]] episode, showing the consequences of Janeway's actions in ''Demon''.

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* BrokenBase: One of the more notably divisive ''Voyager'' episodes. People on one side of the fence hated "Demon" and hated revisiting the concept. People who like this episode admire its strong dramatic elements. WebVideo/SFDebris Website/SFDebris noted that the episode was a [[AlienNoninterferenceClause Prime Directive]] episode, showing the consequences of Janeway's actions in ''Demon''.
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* BrokenBase: One of the more notably divisive ''Voyager'' episodes. People on one side of the fence hated "Demon" and hated revisiting the concept. People who like this episode admire its strong dramatic elements.

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* BrokenBase: One of the more notably divisive ''Voyager'' episodes. People on one side of the fence hated "Demon" and hated revisiting the concept. People who like this episode admire its strong dramatic elements. WebVideo/SFDebris noted that the episode was a [[AlienNoninterferenceClause Prime Directive]] episode, showing the consequences of Janeway's actions in ''Demon''.
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* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: For some who didn't like "Demon", including Website/SFDebris.

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* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: For some who didn't like "Demon", including Website/SFDebris."Demon."

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: An 'expendable' Voyager could have been used to explore areas the writers had been reluctant to explore in the series.

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An 'expendable' Voyager could have been used to explore areas the writers had been reluctant to explore in the series.series.
** The duplicate Voyager had several adventures on its own. This could have come up later with the real Voyager insisting they didn't do this or that, and yet presented with "proof" that they did.
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** The increasingly bleak atmosphere on Duplicate ''Voyager'' as one character after another dies, and everyone else is just barely alive.
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* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: For some who didn't like the "Demon", including Website/SFDebris.

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* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: For some who didn't like the "Demon", including Website/SFDebris.
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* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: For some who didn't like the "Demon", including Website/SFDebris.
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* BrokenBase: One of the more notably divisive ''Voyager'' episodes. People on one side of the fence hated "Demon" and hated revisiting the concept. People who like this episode admire its strong dramatic elements.
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* TearJerker: Easily one of the saddest endings for VOY and the entire franchise.

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* TearJerker: Easily one of the saddest endings episodes for VOY and the entire franchise.
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* TearJerker: Easily one of the saddest endings for VOY and the entire franchise.

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* TearJerker: The scene where Tom describes the honeymoon he has planned with B'Elanna as she slowly slips away.

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* TearJerker: TearJerker:
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The scene where Tom describes the honeymoon he has planned with B'Elanna as she slowly slips away.away.
** The biggest tearjerker is probably the fact that the duplicates' entire ten month existence amounts to little more than a footnote in Janeway's log.
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* TearJerker: The scene where Tom describes the honeymoon he has planned with B'Elanna as she slowly slips away.

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* TearJerker: The scene where Tom describes the honeymoon he has planned with B'Elanna as she slowly slips away.away.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: An 'expendable' Voyager could have been used to explore areas the writers had been reluctant to explore in the series.
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* FridgeHorror: Captain Janeway's duplicate happily mentions "Ensign Harper's new baby" near the beginning of the episode. Which reminds us, Naomi Wildman and her mother presumably have a duplicate aboard that ship too...

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* FridgeHorror: Captain Janeway's duplicate happily mentions "Ensign Harper's new baby" near the beginning of the episode. Which reminds us, Naomi Wildman and her mother presumably have a duplicate aboard that ship too...too...
* TearJerker: The scene where Tom describes the honeymoon he has planned with B'Elanna as she slowly slips away.
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* FridgeHorror: Captain Janeway's duplicate happily mentions "Ensign Harper's new baby" near the beginning of the episode. Which reminds us, Naomi Wildman and her mother presumably have a duplicate aboard that ship too...

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