Follow TV Tropes

Following

History YMMV / StarTrekS3E3TheParadiseSyndrome

Go To

OR

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
wrong trope


* InUniverseFactoidFailure: Kirok/Kirk gets his hand slashed by Salish's knife attack. Salish notes the incongruence of a "god who bleeds". In many cultures, it is not at all unusual for a god to adopt a [[GodInHumanForm human avatar]] with all of the frailties and weaknesses of a real human. Not that the god in question could necessarily be killed by killing their human form. And [[DivineParentage what better way to mate with a mortal]]?

Added: 4

Changed: 9

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* ValuesDissonance: The episode is a perfect storm of every offensive "Native American" and MightyWhitey trope imaginable, plus Miramanee is played by a white actress in {{brownface}}... and it's worth remembering that a lot of this was absolutely bog-standard for American TV portraying Native Americans in the [=1960s=]. It's best exemplified by the fact that for the two decades or so after its first airing it was considered one of the best episodes of the third season, but nowadays is seen as... well, definitely nowhere near one of the ''worst'' episodes of that season, but not remembered nearly as fondly as it once was.

to:

* ValuesDissonance: The episode is a perfect storm of every offensive "Native American" and MightyWhitey trope imaginable, plus Miramanee is played by a white actress in {{brownface}}... and it's worth remembering that a lot of this was absolutely bog-standard for American TV portraying Native Americans in the [=1960s=].The60s. It's best exemplified by the fact that for the two decades or so after its first airing it was considered one of the best episodes of the third season, but nowadays is seen as... well, definitely nowhere near one of the ''worst'' episodes of that season, but not remembered nearly as fondly as it once was.was.
----
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* InUniverseFactoidFailure: Kirok/Kirk gets his hand slashed by Salish's knife attack. Salish notes the incongruence of a "god who bleeds". In many cultures, it is not at all unusual for a god to adopt a [[GodInHumanForm human avatar]] with all of the frailties and weaknesses of a real human. Not that the god in question could necessarily be killed by killing their human form. And [[DivineParentage what better way to mate with a mortal]]?
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Not a YMMV trope, and the whole "the Prime Directive means we should sit by and let alien civilizations die out" thing didn't start until TNG


* ObstructiveCodeOfConduct: Is saving a world from a natural disaster a violation of the Prime Directive? In this episode, the question never arises. In ''Film/StarTrekIntoDarkness'' Kirk gets chewed out (and demoted) for doing exactly that.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Flame Bait tropes don't go on pages


* UnfortunateImplications: Talk about not aging well! To say that "The Paradise Syndrome," rife with Native American stereotypes and a white-savior narrative, would never fly today is pretty much taken for granted. (Not helped, of course, by Miramanee being played by a white actress in brownface.) [[http://markwatches.net/reviews/2014/12/mark-watches-star-trek-s03e03-the-paradise-syndrome/ Mark Oshiro]] was just one of numerous reviewers who saw a particularly glaring example of ill-conceived native American portrayals in pop culture. In his blog ''Vaka Rangi'', Josh Marsfelder's [[http://vakarangi.blogspot.com/2013/10/put-up-parking-lot-paradise-syndrome.html review of this episode]] demonstrates that there's a lot more wrong with it than just the Indian misportrayals.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Depending on who you ask, it's either an otherwise strong-for-Season 3 episode that's wrecked by its outdated and ill-considered racial politics, or a generally mediocre episode that brings up something interesting with the Preservers, but fails to properly build on it (in addition to the aforementioned racial issues). Also the fact that Kirk, [=McCoy=] and Spock all have interesting character beats - Kirk feeling like he doesn't deserve to be happy, Spock exhausting himself out of guilt, Bones demanding that his VitriolicBestBuds rest - only contributes to the problem, as the white men get depth and nobody else does.

to:

* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Depending on who you ask, it's either an otherwise strong-for-Season 3 episode that's wrecked by its outdated and ill-considered racial politics, or a generally mediocre episode that brings up something interesting with the Preservers, but fails to properly build on it (in addition to the aforementioned racial issues). Also the fact that Kirk, [=McCoy=] and Spock all have interesting character beats - Kirk feeling like he doesn't deserve to be happy, Spock exhausting himself out of guilt, Bones demanding that his VitriolicBestBuds {{Vitriolic Best Bud|s}} rest - only contributes to the problem, as the white men get depth and nobody else does.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* ObstructiveCodeOfConduct: Is saving a world from a natural disaster a violation of the Prime Directive? In this episode, the question never arises. In ''Film/StarTrekIntoDarkness'' Kirk gets his butt chewed out (and demoted) for doing exactly that.

to:

* ObstructiveCodeOfConduct: Is saving a world from a natural disaster a violation of the Prime Directive? In this episode, the question never arises. In ''Film/StarTrekIntoDarkness'' Kirk gets his butt chewed out (and demoted) for doing exactly that.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Added Obstructive Code of Conduct

Added DiffLines:

* ObstructiveCodeOfConduct: Is saving a world from a natural disaster a violation of the Prime Directive? In this episode, the question never arises. In ''Film/StarTrekIntoDarkness'' Kirk gets his butt chewed out (and demoted) for doing exactly that.

Added: 1441

Changed: 2

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* CondemnedByHistory: This episode was, at the time of its initial airing, hailed as one of the better episodes (arguably even the best) in an otherwise pretty underwhelming season. It afforded Creator/WilliamShatner the chance to do some of his best acting during the show's run. The episode created the Preservers, an enigmatic, unseen race who would provide huge amounts of both CanonFodder and FanficFuel for the decades ahead. While the episode retained its strong reputation for a while, it ultimately nosedived around the late 1980s. Shatner had gone on to provide far more iconic performances in the ''TOS'' films. The problems with the episode's [[WhiteMansBurden white savior]] narrative and stereotypical depictions of Native American peoples -- all played by actors in {{brownface}}, no less -- became glaringly obvious by the 1990s. In later years, various fanfics and expanded universe novels made far more effective usage of the Preservers than their fleeting mentions in the episode. As a result, the episode is now generally seen as one of the worst not just of the third season, but of ''TOS'' in general. (Contrast this with perennial favorites like "[[Recap/StarTrekS1E28TheCityOnTheEdgeOfForever The City on the Edge of Forever]]" and "[[Recap/StarTrekS1E25TheDevilInTheDark The Devil in the Dark]]", whose timeless messages still resonate today and which are still considered some of the best the series ever produced.)



* ValuesDissonance: The episode is a perfect storm of every offensive "Native American" and MightyWhitey trope imaginable, plus Miramanee is played by a white actress in {{Brownface}}... and it's worth remembering that a lot of this was absolutely bog-standard for American TV portraying Native Americans in the [=1960s=]. It's best exemplified by the fact that for the two decades or so after its first airing it was considered one of the best episodes of the third season, but nowadays is seen as... well, definitely nowhere near one of the ''worst'' episodes of that season, but not remembered nearly as fondly as it once was.

to:

* ValuesDissonance: The episode is a perfect storm of every offensive "Native American" and MightyWhitey trope imaginable, plus Miramanee is played by a white actress in {{Brownface}}...{{brownface}}... and it's worth remembering that a lot of this was absolutely bog-standard for American TV portraying Native Americans in the [=1960s=]. It's best exemplified by the fact that for the two decades or so after its first airing it was considered one of the best episodes of the third season, but nowadays is seen as... well, definitely nowhere near one of the ''worst'' episodes of that season, but not remembered nearly as fondly as it once was.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Depending on who you ask, it's either an otherwise strong-for-Season 3 episode that's wrecked by its outdated and ill-considered racial politics, or a generally mediocre episode that brings up something interesting with the Preservers, but fails to properly build on it (in addition to the aforementioned racial issues).

to:

* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Depending on who you ask, it's either an otherwise strong-for-Season 3 episode that's wrecked by its outdated and ill-considered racial politics, or a generally mediocre episode that brings up something interesting with the Preservers, but fails to properly build on it (in addition to the aforementioned racial issues). Also the fact that Kirk, [=McCoy=] and Spock all have interesting character beats - Kirk feeling like he doesn't deserve to be happy, Spock exhausting himself out of guilt, Bones demanding that his VitriolicBestBuds rest - only contributes to the problem, as the white men get depth and nobody else does.

Added: 605

Changed: 273

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* CanonFodder: Likely because of the initially very positive reception of this episode, the Preservers went on to be prominently featured in ''Star Trek'' spin-off material. Strangely enough, the decline in the episode's overall reputation hasn't done much to dent the popularity of the Preservers themselves.

to:

* CanonFodder: Likely because of the initially very positive reception of this episode, the Preservers went on to be prominently featured in ''Star Trek'' spin-off material. Strangely enough, the decline in the episode's overall reputation hasn't done much to dent the popularity of the Preservers themselves. It helps that we never actually see the Preservers, and the main characters can only guess at their motives, thus helping them avoid falling into the same WhiteMansBurden trap that a similar race in the ''Voyager'' episode "[[Recap/StarTrekVoyagerS2E9Tattoo Tattoo]]" did.


Added DiffLines:

* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Miramanee has arguably more genuine romantic chemistry with Kirk than any of his other one-time love interests (with the notable exception of [[Recap/StarTrekS1E28TheCityOnTheEdgeOfForever Edith Keeler]]) in TOS's run, and often shows herself to be a capable, independent-minded woman. Unfortunately, the MightyWhitey undertones of her relationship with Kirk and the inconsistent writing of her character -- when she ''isn't'' being capable and independent-minded, she comes across incredibly submissive, bordering on child-like at points -- end up undermining things.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* ValuesDissonance: The episode is a perfect storm of every offensive "Native American" and MightyWhitey trope imaginable, plus Miramanee is played by a white actress in {{Brownface}}. It's best exemplified by the fact that for the two decades or so after its first airing it was considered one of the best episodes of the third season, but nowadays is seen as... well, definitely nowhere near one of the ''worst'' episodes of that season, but not remembered nearly as fondly as it once was.

to:

* ValuesDissonance: The episode is a perfect storm of every offensive "Native American" and MightyWhitey trope imaginable, plus Miramanee is played by a white actress in {{Brownface}}.{{Brownface}}... and it's worth remembering that a lot of this was absolutely bog-standard for American TV portraying Native Americans in the [=1960s=]. It's best exemplified by the fact that for the two decades or so after its first airing it was considered one of the best episodes of the third season, but nowadays is seen as... well, definitely nowhere near one of the ''worst'' episodes of that season, but not remembered nearly as fondly as it once was.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* OvershadowedByControversy: Nowadays, it's hard to talk about this episode without addressing the severe ValuesDissonance it's suffered.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* UnfortunateImplications: Talk about not aging well! To say that "The Paradise Syndrome," rife with Native American stereotypes and a white-savior narrative, would never fly today is pretty much taken for granted. (Not helped, of course, by Miramanee being played by a white actress in brownface.) [[http://markwatches.net/reviews/2014/12/mark-watches-star-trek-s03e03-the-paradise-syndrome/ Mark Oshiro]] was just one of numerous reviewers who saw a particularly glaring example of ill-conceived native American portrayals in pop culture.

to:

* UnfortunateImplications: Talk about not aging well! To say that "The Paradise Syndrome," rife with Native American stereotypes and a white-savior narrative, would never fly today is pretty much taken for granted. (Not helped, of course, by Miramanee being played by a white actress in brownface.) [[http://markwatches.net/reviews/2014/12/mark-watches-star-trek-s03e03-the-paradise-syndrome/ Mark Oshiro]] was just one of numerous reviewers who saw a particularly glaring example of ill-conceived native American portrayals in pop culture. In his blog ''Vaka Rangi'', Josh Marsfelder's [[http://vakarangi.blogspot.com/2013/10/put-up-parking-lot-paradise-syndrome.html review of this episode]] demonstrates that there's a lot more wrong with it than just the Indian misportrayals.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Unfortunate Implications require sources


** Apparently, the original title for the episode was "The Paleface."
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* FanficFuel: Likely because of the initially very positive reception of this episode, the Preservers went on to be prominently featured in ''Star Trek'' spin-off material. Strangely enough, the decline in the episode's overall reputation hasn't done much to dent the popularity of the Preservers themselves.

to:

* FanficFuel: CanonFodder: Likely because of the initially very positive reception of this episode, the Preservers went on to be prominently featured in ''Star Trek'' spin-off material. Strangely enough, the decline in the episode's overall reputation hasn't done much to dent the popularity of the Preservers themselves.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Depending on who you ask, it's either an otherwise strong-for-Season 3 episode that's wrecked by its outdated and ill-considered racial politics, or a generally mediocre episode that brings up something interesting with the Preservers, but fails to properly build on it (in addition to the aforementioned racial issues).
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* SignatureScene: The final scene, with Kirk comforting the dying Miramanee, is likely a big part of why this episode had such a strong reputation until the problems with its racial politics became evident, with Creator/WilliamShatner doing some of his best acting in the show's run.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* FanficFuel: Likely because of the initially very positive reception of this episode, the Preservers went on to be prominently featured in ''Star Trek'' spin-off material. Strangely enough, the decline in the episode's overall reputation hasn't done much to dent the popularity of the Preservers themselves.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* ValuesDissonance: The episode is a perfect storm of every offensive "Native American" and MightyWhitey trope imaginable, plus Miramanee is played by a white actress in {{Brownface}}.

to:

* ValuesDissonance: The episode is a perfect storm of every offensive "Native American" and MightyWhitey trope imaginable, plus Miramanee is played by a white actress in {{Brownface}}. It's best exemplified by the fact that for the two decades or so after its first airing it was considered one of the best episodes of the third season, but nowadays is seen as... well, definitely nowhere near one of the ''worst'' episodes of that season, but not remembered nearly as fondly as it once was.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** Apparently, the original title for the episode was "The Paleface."

to:

** Apparently, the original title for the episode was "The Paleface.""
* ValuesDissonance: The episode is a perfect storm of every offensive "Native American" and MightyWhitey trope imaginable, plus Miramanee is played by a white actress in {{Brownface}}.

Added: 69

Changed: 84

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* UnfortunateImplications: Talk about not aging well! To say that "The Paradise Syndrome," rife with Native American stereotypes and a white-savior narrative, would never fly today is pretty much taken for granted. [[http://markwatches.net/reviews/2014/12/mark-watches-star-trek-s03e03-the-paradise-syndrome/ Mark Oshiro]] was just one of numerous reviewers who saw a particularly glaring example of ill-conceived native American portrayals in pop culture.

to:

* UnfortunateImplications: Talk about not aging well! To say that "The Paradise Syndrome," rife with Native American stereotypes and a white-savior narrative, would never fly today is pretty much taken for granted. (Not helped, of course, by Miramanee being played by a white actress in brownface.) [[http://markwatches.net/reviews/2014/12/mark-watches-star-trek-s03e03-the-paradise-syndrome/ Mark Oshiro]] was just one of numerous reviewers who saw a particularly glaring example of ill-conceived native American portrayals in pop culture.culture.
** Apparently, the original title for the episode was "The Paleface."
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* UnfortunateImplications: Talk about not aging well! To say that "The Paradise Syndrome," rife with Native American stereotypes and a white-savior narrative, would never fly today is pretty much taken for granted. [[http://markwatches.net/reviews/2014/12/mark-watches-star-trek-s03e03-the-paradise-syndrome/ Mark Oshiro]] was just one of numerous reviewers who saw a particularly glaring example of ill-conceived native American portrayals in pop culture.

Top