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* HarsherInHindsight: Evil Kirk's assault of Rand is pretty awful in light of the fact that Creator/GraceLeeWhitney was later sexually assaulted by one of the ''[[Franchise/StarTrek Trek]]'' producers, implied in her book to be Creator/GeneRoddenberry.
** [[http://atrahasis.proboards.com/thread/316?page=1 It's generally acknowledged to be Gene.]] She only calls him "the executive", but then talks about how he had a reputation for womanizing and was having a serious affair with another actress on the same show; and when he speaks to her later, he gives her a polished rock. Gene was an amateur rockhound and often gave out these polished stones as gifts[[note]]it's also how he came up with the original idea that became the [[https://fanlore.org/wiki/IDIC_(glossary_term) IDIC]][[/note]]; including this detail in her account is her way of telling people who would know that the executive was Gene.[[note]]''Inside'' Star Trek'': The Real Story'' shares Gene's rockhound habit with the general public, so anyone who had read both books would make the connection.[[/note]] She blames herself as much as him, and is forgiving, not bitter, when she discusses it.

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* HarsherInHindsight: Evil Kirk's assault of Rand is pretty awful in light of the fact that Creator/GraceLeeWhitney was later sexually assaulted by one of the ''[[Franchise/StarTrek Trek]]'' producers, implied in her book to be Creator/GeneRoddenberry.
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[[http://atrahasis.proboards.com/thread/316?page=1 It's generally acknowledged to be Gene.]] She only calls him "the executive", but then talks about how he had a reputation for womanizing and was having a serious affair with another actress on the same show; and when he speaks to her later, he gives her a polished rock. Gene was an amateur rockhound and often gave out these polished stones as gifts[[note]]it's also how he came up with the original idea that became the [[https://fanlore.org/wiki/IDIC_(glossary_term) IDIC]][[/note]]; including this detail implied in her account is her way of telling people who would know that the executive was Gene.[[note]]''Inside'' Star Trek'': The Real Story'' shares Gene's rockhound habit with the general public, so anyone who had read both books would make the connection.[[/note]] She blames herself as much as him, and is forgiving, not bitter, when she discusses it.book]] to be Creator/GeneRoddenberry.



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* HarsherInHindsight: Evil Kirk's assault of [[BrotherChuck Rand]] is pretty awful in light of the fact that Creator/GraceLeeWhitney was later sexually assaulted by one of the ''[[Franchise/StarTrek Trek]]'' producers, implied in her book to be Creator/GeneRoddenberry.

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* HarsherInHindsight: Evil Kirk's assault of [[BrotherChuck Rand]] Rand is pretty awful in light of the fact that Creator/GraceLeeWhitney was later sexually assaulted by one of the ''[[Franchise/StarTrek Trek]]'' producers, implied in her book to be Creator/GeneRoddenberry.
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* UncannyValley: Evil Kirk's sweaty, makeup-ruined face when he's breaking down on the bridge looks really eerie.
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* HarsherInHindsight: Evil Kirk's assault of [[BrotherChuck Rand]] is pretty awful in light of the fact that Grace Lee Whitney was later sexually assaulted by one of the ''[[Franchise/StarTrek Trek]]'' producers, implied in her book to be Creator/GeneRoddenberry.

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* HarsherInHindsight: Evil Kirk's assault of [[BrotherChuck Rand]] is pretty awful in light of the fact that Grace Lee Whitney Creator/GraceLeeWhitney was later sexually assaulted by one of the ''[[Franchise/StarTrek Trek]]'' producers, implied in her book to be Creator/GeneRoddenberry.
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* MeanCharacterNiceActor : Though Spock is [[CharacterisationMarchesOn generally the farthest from being deliberately mean]], this episode has a creepy moment for him with the infamous last line - "The impostor had some interesting qualities, wouldn't you say, Yeoman?"- addressed to Janice Rand, regarding the rape attempt she suffered. Grace Lee Whitney's recounting of the real life assault she suffered onset mentions how she chose to confide in Creator/LeonardNimoy about the harassment, and that he was genuinely sympathetic and understanding. Considering how tough it is even in 2020 for victims of sexual assaults to talk about what they suffered, the fact that Whitney felt comfortable talking to him about it says a lot about [[NiceGuy Leonard Nimoy.]]
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*MeanCharacterNiceActor : Though Spock is [[CharacterisationMarchesOn generally the farthest from being deliberately mean]], this episode has a creepy moment for him with the infamous last line - "The impostor had some interesting qualities, wouldn't you say, Yeoman?"- addressed to Janice Rand, regarding the rape attempt she suffered. Grace Lee Whitney's recounting of the real life assault she suffered onset mentions how she chose to confide in Creator/LeonardNimoy about the harassment, and that he was genuinely sympathetic and understanding. Considering how tough it is even in 2020 for victims of sexual assaults to talk about what they suffered, the fact that Whitney felt comfortable talking to him about it says a lot about [[NiceGuy Leonard Nimoy.]]
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** [[http://atrahasis.proboards.com/thread/316?page=1 It's generally acknowledged to be Gene.]] She only calls him "the executive", but then talks about how he had a reputation for womanizing and was having a serious affair with another actress on the same show; and when he speaks to her later, he gives her a polished rock. Gene was an amateur rockhound and often gave out these polished stones as gifts[[note]]it's also how he came up with the original idea that became the [[https://fanlore.org/wiki/IDIC_(glossary_term) IDIC]][[/note]]; including this detail in her account is her way of telling people who would know that the executive was Gene. She blames herself as much as him, and is forgiving, not bitter, when she discusses it.

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** [[http://atrahasis.proboards.com/thread/316?page=1 It's generally acknowledged to be Gene.]] She only calls him "the executive", but then talks about how he had a reputation for womanizing and was having a serious affair with another actress on the same show; and when he speaks to her later, he gives her a polished rock. Gene was an amateur rockhound and often gave out these polished stones as gifts[[note]]it's also how he came up with the original idea that became the [[https://fanlore.org/wiki/IDIC_(glossary_term) IDIC]][[/note]]; including this detail in her account is her way of telling people who would know that the executive was Gene. [[note]]''Inside'' Star Trek'': The Real Story'' shares Gene's rockhound habit with the general public, so anyone who had read both books would make the connection.[[/note]] She blames herself as much as him, and is forgiving, not bitter, when she discusses it.
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** [[http://atrahasis.proboards.com/thread/316?page=1 It's generally acknowledged to be Gene.]] She only calls him the executive, but then talks about how he had a reputation for womanizing and was having a serious affair with another actress on the same show: and when he speaks to her later, he gives her a polished rock. Gene was an amateur rockhound and often gave out these polished stones as gifts[[note]]it's also how he came up with the original idea that became the [[https://fanlore.org/wiki/IDIC_(glossary_term) IDIC]][[/note]]; including this detail in her account is her way of telling people who would know that the executive was Gene. She blames herself as much as him, and is forgiving, not bitter, when she discusses it.

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** [[http://atrahasis.proboards.com/thread/316?page=1 It's generally acknowledged to be Gene.]] She only calls him the executive, "the executive", but then talks about how he had a reputation for womanizing and was having a serious affair with another actress on the same show: show; and when he speaks to her later, he gives her a polished rock. Gene was an amateur rockhound and often gave out these polished stones as gifts[[note]]it's also how he came up with the original idea that became the [[https://fanlore.org/wiki/IDIC_(glossary_term) IDIC]][[/note]]; including this detail in her account is her way of telling people who would know that the executive was Gene. She blames herself as much as him, and is forgiving, not bitter, when she discusses it.
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* ValuesDissonance: Rand's first instinct after Evil!Kirk tries to rape her is to cover for him. And note that she actually thinks it was Kirk himself! Even the blocking of the scene is unnerving these days, with the three guys all looming over the distraught Rand in what certainly seems like the position most likely to dissuade her from talking about it. In one magazine interview, Grace Lee Whitney points out that Spock even seems to be a little turned on by the whole situation, as during Rand's public apology to Kirk at the end of the episode (and yes ''she'' apologizes to Kirk and not the other way around) he states ''the imposter had some interesting qualities wouldn't you say?'' before obviously leering at her as she gives him the stink-eye and walks away. She also states in another [[http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/16/interview-grace-lee-whitney-talks-past-and-future-rands/ interview]] that her directions for the rape scene from Gene were to make it ''real but glamorous,'' which frankly are two words that go together like fire and water.[[note]]Gene may have been thinking of rape scenes in ThePreCodeEra movies. These were often lit and shot in ways that made it clear [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gymhFPRXoGE the victim was innocent as well as beautiful.]][[/note]]

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* ValuesDissonance: Rand's first instinct after Evil!Kirk tries to rape her is to cover for him. And note that she actually thinks it was Kirk himself! Even the blocking of the scene is unnerving these days, with the three guys all looming over the distraught Rand in what certainly seems like the position most likely to dissuade her from talking about it. In one magazine interview, Grace Lee Whitney points out that Spock even seems to be a little turned on by the whole situation, as during Rand's public apology to Kirk at the end of the episode (and yes ''she'' apologizes to Kirk and not the other way around) he states ''the imposter had some interesting qualities wouldn't you say?'' before obviously leering at her as she gives him the stink-eye and walks away. She also states in another [[http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/16/interview-grace-lee-whitney-talks-past-and-future-rands/ interview]] that her directions for the rape scene from Gene were to make it ''real but glamorous,'' which frankly are two words that go together like fire and water.[[note]]Gene may have been thinking of rape scenes in ThePreCodeEra UsefulNotes/ThePreCodeEra movies. These were often lit and shot in ways that made it clear [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gymhFPRXoGE the victim was innocent as well as beautiful.]][[/note]]
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** [[http://atrahasis.proboards.com/thread/316?page=1 It's generally acknowledged to be Gene.]] She only calls him the executive, but then talks about how he had a reputation for womanizing and was having a serious affair with another actress on the same show. She blames herself as much as him, and is forgiving, not bitter, when she discusses it.

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** [[http://atrahasis.proboards.com/thread/316?page=1 It's generally acknowledged to be Gene.]] She only calls him the executive, but then talks about how he had a reputation for womanizing and was having a serious affair with another actress on the same show.show: and when he speaks to her later, he gives her a polished rock. Gene was an amateur rockhound and often gave out these polished stones as gifts[[note]]it's also how he came up with the original idea that became the [[https://fanlore.org/wiki/IDIC_(glossary_term) IDIC]][[/note]]; including this detail in her account is her way of telling people who would know that the executive was Gene. She blames herself as much as him, and is forgiving, not bitter, when she discusses it.



* ValuesDissonance: Rand's first instinct after Evil!Kirk tries to rape her is to cover for him. And note that she actually thinks it was Kirk himself! Even the blocking of the scene is unnerving these days, with the three guys all looming over the distraught Rand in what certainly seems like the position most likely to dissuade her from talking about it. In one magazine interview, Grace Lee Whitney points out that Spock even seems to be a little turned on by the whole situation, as during Rand's public apology to Kirk at the end of the episode (and yes ''she'' apologizes to Kirk and not the other way around) he states ''the imposter had some interesting qualities wouldn't you say?'' before obviously leering at her as she walks away. She also states in another [[http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/16/interview-grace-lee-whitney-talks-past-and-future-rands/ interview]] that her directions for the rape scene from Gene were to make it ''real but glamorous,'' which frankly are two words that go together like fire and water.

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* ValuesDissonance: Rand's first instinct after Evil!Kirk tries to rape her is to cover for him. And note that she actually thinks it was Kirk himself! Even the blocking of the scene is unnerving these days, with the three guys all looming over the distraught Rand in what certainly seems like the position most likely to dissuade her from talking about it. In one magazine interview, Grace Lee Whitney points out that Spock even seems to be a little turned on by the whole situation, as during Rand's public apology to Kirk at the end of the episode (and yes ''she'' apologizes to Kirk and not the other way around) he states ''the imposter had some interesting qualities wouldn't you say?'' before obviously leering at her as she gives him the stink-eye and walks away. She also states in another [[http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/16/interview-grace-lee-whitney-talks-past-and-future-rands/ interview]] that her directions for the rape scene from Gene were to make it ''real but glamorous,'' which frankly are two words that go together like fire and water.
water.[[note]]Gene may have been thinking of rape scenes in ThePreCodeEra movies. These were often lit and shot in ways that made it clear [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gymhFPRXoGE the victim was innocent as well as beautiful.]][[/note]]
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* NarmCharm: Evil Kirk is over-the-top hammy even by Creator/WilliamShatner's usual standards. And it works! Evil Kirk comes across as completely unhinged, and thus actually kind of scary.



* ValuesDissonance: Rand's first instinct after Evil!Kirk tries to rape her is to cover for him. And note that she actually thinks it was Kirk himself! Even the blocking of the scene is unnerving these days, with the three guys all looming over the distraught Rand in what certainly seems like the position most likely to dissuade her from talking about it. In one magazine interview, Grace Lee Whitney points out that Spock even seems to be a little turned on by the whole situation, as during Rand's public apology to Kirk at the end of the episode (and yes ''she'' apologizes to Kirk and not the other way around) he states ''the imposter had some interesting qualities wouldn't you say?'' before obviously leering at her as she walks away. She also states in another [[http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/16/interview-grace-lee-whitney-talks-past-and-future-rands/ interview]] that her directions for the rape scene from Gene were to make it ''real but glamorous,'' which frankly are two words that go together like fire and water.

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* ValuesDissonance: Rand's first instinct after Evil!Kirk tries to rape her is to cover for him. And note that she actually thinks it was Kirk himself! Even the blocking of the scene is unnerving these days, with the three guys all looming over the distraught Rand in what certainly seems like the position most likely to dissuade her from talking about it. In one magazine interview, Grace Lee Whitney points out that Spock even seems to be a little turned on by the whole situation, as during Rand's public apology to Kirk at the end of the episode (and yes ''she'' apologizes to Kirk and not the other way around) he states ''the imposter had some interesting qualities wouldn't you say?'' before obviously leering at her as she walks away. She also states in another [[http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/16/interview-grace-lee-whitney-talks-past-and-future-rands/ interview]] that her directions for the rape scene from Gene were to make it ''real but glamorous,'' which frankly are two words that go together like fire and water.water.

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** http://atrahasis.proboards.com/thread/316?page=1 It's generally acknowledged to be Gene.]] She only calls him the executive, but then talks about how he had a reputation for womanizing and was having a serious affair with another actress on the same show. She blames herself as much as him, and is forgiving, not bitter, when she discusses it.

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** http://atrahasis.proboards.com/thread/316?page=1It's generally acknowledged to be Gene.]] She only calls him the executive, but then talks about how he had a reputation for womanizing and was having a serious affair with another actress on the same show. She blames herself as much as him, and is forgiving, not bitter, when she discusses it.

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* UncanneyValley: Evil Kirk's sweaty, makeup-ruined face when he's breaking down on the bridge looks really eerie.

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* HarsherInHindsight: Evil Kirk's assault of [[BrotherChuck Rand]] is pretty awful in light of the fact that Grace Lee Whitney was later sexually assaulted by one of the ''[[Franchise/StarTrek Trek]]'' producers.
** You can go ahead and say it. It was Creator/GeneRoddenberry. It's very clear in her book. Creator/LeonardNimoy knew about it and supported her.
* ValuesDissonance: Rand's first instinct after Evil!Kirk tries to rape her is to cover for him. And note that she actually thinks it was Kirk himself! Even the blocking of the scene is unnerving these days, with the three guys all looming over the distraught Rand in what certainly seems like the position most likely to dissuade her from talking about it.
** In one magazine interview, Grace Lee Whitney points out that Spock even seems to be a little turned on by the whole situation, as during Rand's public apology to Kirk at the end of the episode (and yes ''she'' apologizes to Kirk and not the other way around) he states ''the imposter had some interesting qualities wouldn't you say?'' before obviously leering at her as she walks away. She also states in another [[http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/16/interview-grace-lee-whitney-talks-past-and-future-rands/ interview]] that her directions for the rape scene from Gene were to make it ''real but glamorous,'' which frankly are two words that go together like fire and water.

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* HarsherInHindsight: Evil Kirk's assault of [[BrotherChuck Rand]] is pretty awful in light of the fact that Grace Lee Whitney was later sexually assaulted by one of the ''[[Franchise/StarTrek Trek]]'' producers.
** You can go ahead and say it. It was Creator/GeneRoddenberry. It's very clear
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* ValuesDissonance: Rand's first instinct after Evil!Kirk tries to rape her is to cover for him. And note that she actually thinks it was Kirk himself! Even the blocking of the scene is unnerving these days, with the three guys all looming over the distraught Rand in what certainly seems like the position most likely to dissuade her from talking about it. \n** In one magazine interview, Grace Lee Whitney points out that Spock even seems to be a little turned on by the whole situation, as during Rand's public apology to Kirk at the end of the episode (and yes ''she'' apologizes to Kirk and not the other way around) he states ''the imposter had some interesting qualities wouldn't you say?'' before obviously leering at her as she walks away. She also states in another [[http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/16/interview-grace-lee-whitney-talks-past-and-future-rands/ interview]] that her directions for the rape scene from Gene were to make it ''real but glamorous,'' which frankly are two words that go together like fire and water.
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** You can go ahead and say it. It was Creator/GeneRoddenberry. It's very clear in her book. Creator/LeonardNimoy knew about it and supported her.

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** You can go ahead and say it. It was Creator/GeneRoddenberry. It's very clear in her book. Creator/LeonardNimoy knew about it and supported her.her.
* ValuesDissonance: Rand's first instinct after Evil!Kirk tries to rape her is to cover for him. And note that she actually thinks it was Kirk himself! Even the blocking of the scene is unnerving these days, with the three guys all looming over the distraught Rand in what certainly seems like the position most likely to dissuade her from talking about it.
** In one magazine interview, Grace Lee Whitney points out that Spock even seems to be a little turned on by the whole situation, as during Rand's public apology to Kirk at the end of the episode (and yes ''she'' apologizes to Kirk and not the other way around) he states ''the imposter had some interesting qualities wouldn't you say?'' before obviously leering at her as she walks away. She also states in another [[http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/16/interview-grace-lee-whitney-talks-past-and-future-rands/ interview]] that her directions for the rape scene from Gene were to make it ''real but glamorous,'' which frankly are two words that go together like fire and water.
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* HarsherInHindsight: Evil Kirk's assault of [[BrotherChuck Rand]] is pretty awful in light of the fact that Grace Lee Whitney was later sexually assaulted by one of the ''[[Franchise/StarTrek Trek]]'' producers.
** You can go ahead and say it. It was Creator/GeneRoddenberry. It's very clear in her book. Creator/LeonardNimoy knew about it and supported her.

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