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* TheyCopiedItNowItSucks: The movie poster is already being called a rip-off of posters for ''Film/TheDarkKnightSaga''.
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* TheyCopiedItNowItSucks: The film's first movie poster is already was accused of being called a rip-off of posters for ''Film/TheDarkKnightSaga''.
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these are not YMMV entires. Keep the speculation as to Harrison\'s idenity on WMG for now.
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* SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute / SuspiciouslySpecificDenial: Producers have named the film's villain as "John Harrison", despite previous statements that it would be a character that Trek fans "are familiar with" as well as Karl Urban's brief slip that Benedict Cumberbatch would be portraying [[spoiler:Gary Mitchell[[hottip:*:He was a Starfleet officer and longtime friend of James Kirk who developed near-godly powers and an antagonistic attitude (closely mirroring the villain of ''Into Darkness'') in the first episode of [[Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries the original series]]]]. Seeing as the nine-minute preview shown in theatres [[TheUnreveal does not name Cumberbatch's character]], this is still unresolved.
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* TaintedByThePreview: Many fans made judgements after the first teaser, calling it too [[DarkerAndEdgier dark, edgy,]] and action-packed to be a "[[NoTrueScotsman proper]]" ''Star Trek'' film. This is not the first time fans have leveled this criticism, as both ''Film/StarTrekIITheWrathOfKhan'' and ''Film/StarTrekFirstContact'' were criticized for deviating from the "proper" Trek spirit, but those movies have since become widely praised.
** Then again, so were Star Trek V and Nemesis, which were also Darker takes of Star Trek, both almost killed the [[Franchise FranchiseKiller]] and First Contact is still a BaseBreaker[[hottip:* And even then its only seen as the best Next Gen film because the others were so bad]].
** Then again, so were Star Trek V and Nemesis, which were also Darker takes of Star Trek, both almost killed the [[Franchise FranchiseKiller]] and First Contact is still a BaseBreaker[[hottip:* And even then its only seen as the best Next Gen film because the others were so bad]].
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* TaintedByThePreview: Many fans made judgements after called the first teaser, calling it teaser too [[DarkerAndEdgier dark, edgy,]] and action-packed to be for a "[[NoTrueScotsman proper]]" ''Star Trek'' film. This is not the first time fans have leveled this criticism, as both ''Film/StarTrekIITheWrathOfKhan'' and ''Film/StarTrekFirstContact'' were criticized for deviating from the "proper" Trek spirit, but those movies have since become widely praised.
** Then again, so were Star Trek V and Nemesis, which were also Darker takes of Star Trek, both almost killed the [[Franchise FranchiseKiller]] and First Contact is still a BaseBreaker[[hottip:* And even then its only seen as the best Next Gen film because the others were so bad]].film.
** Then again, so were Star Trek V and Nemesis, which were also Darker takes of Star Trek, both almost killed the [[Franchise FranchiseKiller]] and First Contact is still a BaseBreaker[[hottip:* And even then its only seen as the best Next Gen film because the others were so bad]].
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* TheyCopiedItNowItSucks: The movie poster is already being called a rip-off of posters for ''Film/TheDarkKnight'' (never mind that ''Film/TheDarkKnightRises'' is the one that shares the similarity).''Film/TheDarkKnightSaga''.
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** Then again, so were Star Trek V and Nemesis, both who almost killed the [[Franchise FranchiseKiller]].
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** Then again, so were Star Trek V and Nemesis, which were also Darker takes of Star Trek, both who almost killed the [[Franchise FranchiseKiller]].FranchiseKiller]] and First Contact is still a BaseBreaker[[hottip:* And even then its only seen as the best Next Gen film because the others were so bad]].
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* SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute / SuspiciouslySpecificDenial: Producers have named the film's villain as "John Harrison", despite previous statements that it would be a character that Trek fans "are familiar with" as well as Karl Urban's brief slip that Benedict Cumberbatch would be portraying [[spoiler:Gary Mitchell[[hottip:*:He was a Starfleet officer and longtime friend of James Kirk who developed near-godly powers and an antagonistic attitude (closely mirroring the villain of ''Into Darkness'') in the first episode of [[Series/StarTrek [[Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries the original series]]]]. Seeing as the nine-minute preview shown in theatres [[TheUnreveal does not name Cumberbatch's character]], this is still unresolved.
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* SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute / SuspiciouslySpecificDenial: Producers have named the film's villain as "John Harrison", despite previous statements that it would be a character that Trek fans "are familiar with" as well as Karl Urban's brief slip that Benedict Cumberbatch would be portraying [[spoiler:Gary Mitchell[[hottip:*:He was a Starfleet officer and longtime friend of James Kirk who developed near-godly powers and an antagonistic attitude (closely mirroring the villain of ''Into Darkness'') in the first episode of [[Series/StarTrek the original series]]]]. Seeing as the nine-minute preview shown in theatres [[TheUnreveal does not name Cumberbatch's character]], this is still unresolved.
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* EvilIsSexy: BigBad John Harrison is played by the good looking, svelte Creator/BenedictCumberbatch.
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* EvilIsSexy: BigBad [[BigBad John Harrison Harrison]] is played by the good looking, svelte Creator/BenedictCumberbatch.
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** The USS ''Enterprise'' crashing into the Pacific Ocean in San Francisco later on.
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* EvilIsSexy: With Creator/BenedictCumberbatch as your villain, this was a ForegoneConclusion.
** EvilIsCool: This was also a ForegoneConclusion.
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* EvilIsSexy: With Creator/BenedictCumberbatch as your villain, this was a ForegoneConclusion.EvilIsCool: The BadassLongcoat wearing EvilBrit John Harrison.
** EvilIsCool: This was also a ForegoneConclusion.* EvilIsSexy: BigBad John Harrison is played by the good looking, svelte Creator/BenedictCumberbatch.
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links are not examples, also appears to just be a myth gag this time around.
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** From the opening:
---> Kirk: (re: not being able to save Spock) "What would Spock do if he was here?"
---> [=McCoy=]: "He'd let you die."
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* TearJerker: [[http://25.media.tumblr.com/e5af70beb6f395d212fa463678c17d84/tumblr_mep2zgLvDr1qh9rk7o1_500.jpg This.]]
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**From Spock telling the Enterprise to leave him to die in the opening:
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* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: As usual, but special mention goes to the USS ''Enterprise'' crashing into the ocean.
** Equally awesome effect: THE ''ENTERPRISE'' HIDING ON THE OCEAN.
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ocean in San Francisco.
**Equally awesome effect: THE ''ENTERPRISE'' HIDING ON THE OCEAN.The ''Enterprise'' hiding in the alien ocean during the opening away mission.
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** From the opening:
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** EvilIsCool: This was also a ForegoneConclusion.
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* TaintedByThePreview: Many fans made judgements after the first teaser, calling it too [[DarkerAndEdgier dark, edgy,]] and action-packed to be a "[[NoTrueScotsman proper]]" ''Star Trek'' film. This is not the first time fans have leveled this criticism, as both ''StarTrekIITheWrathOfKhan'' and ''StarTrekFirstContact'' were criticized for deviating from the "proper" Trek spirit, but those movies have since become widely praised.
* TaintedByThePreview: Many fans made judgements after the first teaser, calling it too [[DarkerAndEdgier dark, edgy,]] and action-packed to be a "[[NoTrueScotsman proper]]" ''Star Trek'' film. This is not the first time fans have leveled this criticism, as both ''StarTrekIITheWrathOfKhan'' and ''StarTrekFirstContact'' were criticized for deviating from the "proper" Trek spirit, but those movies have since become widely praised.
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* EvilIsSexy: With {{Creator/Benedict Cumberbatch}} Creator/BenedictCumberbatch as your villain, this was a ForegoneConclusion.
* TaintedByThePreview: Many fans made judgements after the first teaser, calling it too [[DarkerAndEdgier dark, edgy,]] and action-packed to be a "[[NoTrueScotsman proper]]" ''Star Trek'' film. This is not the first time fans have leveled this criticism, as both''StarTrekIITheWrathOfKhan'' ''Film/StarTrekIITheWrathOfKhan'' and ''StarTrekFirstContact'' ''Film/StarTrekFirstContact'' were criticized for deviating from the "proper" Trek spirit, but those movies have since become widely praised.
* TaintedByThePreview: Many fans made judgements after the first teaser, calling it too [[DarkerAndEdgier dark, edgy,]] and action-packed to be a "[[NoTrueScotsman proper]]" ''Star Trek'' film. This is not the first time fans have leveled this criticism, as both
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* TheyCopiedItNowItSucks: The movie poster is already being called a rip-off of posters for ''TheDarkKnight'' ''Film/TheDarkKnight'' (never mind that ''TheDarkKnightRises'' ''Film/TheDarkKnightRises'' is the one that shares the similarity).
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* TearJerker: [[http://25.media.tumblr.com/e5af70beb6f395d212fa463678c17d84/tumblr_mep2zgLvDr1qh9rk7o1_500.jpg This.]]
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* TheyCopiedItNowItSucks: The movie poster is already being called a rip-off of posters for ''TheDarkKnight'' (never mind that TheDarkKnightRises ''TheDarkKnightRises'' is the one that shares the similarity).
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* TheyCopiedItNowItSucks: The movie poster is already being called a rip-off of posters for ''TheDarkKnight''.''TheDarkKnight'' (never mind that TheDarkKnightRises is the one that shares the similarity).
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Cry about it in a discussion forum. :)
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* TaintedByThePreview: Many fans made judgements after the first teaser, calling it too [[DarkerAndEdgier dark, edgy,]] and action-packed to be a "proper" ''Star Trek'' film. This is not the first time fans have leveled this criticism, as both ''StarTrekIITheWrathOfKhan'' and ''StarTrekFirstContact'' were criticized for deviating from the "proper" Trek spirit, but those movies have since become widely praised.
** True, but with the former films, the DarkerAndEdgier themes naturally fit with the stories' progression from the original series. The problem here is that this feels forced based on what the studios think people want as opposed to what the story needs. The movie poster is already being called a rip-off of posters for ''TheDarkKnight''.
** True, but with the former films, the DarkerAndEdgier themes naturally fit with the stories' progression from the original series. The problem here is that this feels forced based on what the studios think people want as opposed to what the story needs. The movie poster is already being called a rip-off of posters for ''TheDarkKnight''.
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* TaintedByThePreview: Many fans made judgements after the first teaser, calling it too [[DarkerAndEdgier dark, edgy,]] and action-packed to be a "proper" "[[NoTrueScotsman proper]]" ''Star Trek'' film. This is not the first time fans have leveled this criticism, as both ''StarTrekIITheWrathOfKhan'' and ''StarTrekFirstContact'' were criticized for deviating from the "proper" Trek spirit, but those movies have since become widely praised.
** True, but with the former films, the DarkerAndEdgier themes naturally fit with the stories' progression from the original series. The problem here is that this feels forced based on what the studios think people want as opposed to what the story needs. * TheyCopiedItNowItSucks: The movie poster is already being called a rip-off of posters for ''TheDarkKnight''.
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** True, but with the former films, the DarkerAndEdgier themes naturally fit with the stories' progression from the original series. The problem here is that this feels forced based on what the studios think people want as opposed to what the story needs. The movie poster is already being called a rip-off of posters for ''TheDarkKnight''.
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* EvilIsSexy: With {{Creator/Benedict Cumberbatch}} as your villain, this was a ForegoneConclusion.
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* TaintedByThePreview: Many fans made judgements after the first teaser, calling it too DarkerAndEdgier [[DarkerAndEdgier dark, edgy,]] and too action packed action-packed to be a "proper" ''Star Trek'' film.
film. This is not the first time fans have leveled this criticism, as both ''StarTrekIITheWrathOfKhan'' and ''StarTrekFirstContact'' were criticized for deviating from the "proper" Trek spirit, but those movies have since become widely praised.
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* TaintedByThePreview: Many fans made judgements after the first teaser, calling it too DarkerAndEdgier and too action packed to be a Stek Trek ''Star Trek'' film.
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