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* SpiritualAdaptation: Considered to be a better ''VideoGame/{{Contra}}'' game done in 3D than the actual games made during that era, ''Contra: Legacy of War'' and ''C: The Contra Adventure''.
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Misuse, defines plots that are used in a different medium.


* SpiritualLicensee: There's actually a third VideoGame/SinAndPunishment title out. It's called VideoGame/KidIcarusUprising.

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* {{Narm}}: Saki's voice(s). He sounds like a teenager in cutscenes and dialogue, yet when you're in control of him and making him attack, take damage, and get knocked down, ''he sounds like a middle-aged man''.
** A lot of the voice acting in general is SoBadItsGood, especially Achi constantly overlapping ''her own'' dialogue.

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* {{Narm}}: Saki's voice(s). He sounds like a teenager {{Narm}}:
** If the player takes damage as Saki, he yells
in cutscenes and dialogue, yet when you're in control of him and making him attack, take damage, and get knocked down, ''he sounds like a gruff voice similarly to a middle-aged man''.
man. Due to the contrast with his youthful appearance, moments when the player should feel tense due to incoming danger become much funnier than intended.
** A lot of the voice acting in general is SoBadItsGood, especially Achi making otherwise dramatic cutscenes comical. Special mention to Achi, who constantly overlapping overlaps ''her own'' dialogue.



* ThatOneLevel: Stage 2-2, in which you are constantly bombarded by gunfire by turrets from gunship cruisers that are both bothersome and annoying, you can easily miss the time bonus from the mid-boss roughly half-way through and time items don't show up until further in the level, plus if you're trying to get a high score run, missing your chance to slash the mothership's core will strip you of your ''entire'' stage clear bonuses.
** Stage 3-2 can also be one since the controls were not made for a 2D side-scroller and you'll be fight the controls more than Ruffians.

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* ThatOneLevel: ThatOneLevel:
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Stage 2-2, in which you are constantly bombarded by gunfire by turrets from gunship cruisers that are both bothersome and annoying, annoying; you can easily miss the time bonus from the mid-boss roughly half-way through and time items don't show up until further in the level, plus if you're trying to get a high score run, missing your chance to slash the mothership's core will strip you of your ''entire'' stage clear bonuses.
** Stage 3-2 can also be one 3-2, since it's the controls were not made for a only 2D side-scroller and you'll be fight the level in a game whose controls more than Ruffians.are sub-optimal for such gameplay style.
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First two entries are for the final boss, so they don't qualify for this trope. The boss described in the third entry is a complete joke if the player disables auto-lock on.


* ThatOneBoss: [[spoiler:Transformed Achi - Earth Mimicry]]. Considering the bonus for this boss requires practically frame-perfect movement and aiming to stop any collateral damage AND that there's three ways to lose the fight (you die, time runs out, or [[spoiler:Earth is destroyed by Achi]]...)
** It's sort-of balanced out by the fact that you'd have to be ''trying'' to lose before earning at least one continue, meaning you'll have as many chances to defeat the boss as you want.
** Polestar at the end of 2-2, although that's more of a NoobBridge than anything for those who have yet to figure out that auto-aim reduces shot damage.
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Zero Context Examples. Deleting because Awesome Music is Sugar Wiki.


* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnfDnCTQp8M Agave]], the music of Stage 2-1 and the Training stage, and [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CxX8n7NOWU Ally Risker's]] from Stage 3-2.
** Ruffian Saki's theme, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RirrfF0bORA Blood Infactor]]


* MostAnnoyingSound: Airan's BigNo whenever she is hit.
** And then there's Leda: "FIGHT ME! NYYA! NYYA! NYAA-AOW! EYAAAAAA! [[OverlyLongGag NYYAAAAA!]]" It's at its worst near the middle of 2-1, where she goes "NYAA" no less than ''eight'' times.
** "Get Bonus!" Although, this could also be good if [[SugarWiki/MostWonderfulSound you like high scores]].
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* ThatOneBoss: [[spoiler: Transformed Achi - Earth Mimicry]]. Considering the bonus for this boss requires practically frame-perfect movement and aiming to stop any collateral damage AND that there's three ways to lose the fight (you die, time runs out, or [[spoiler:Earth is destroyed by Achi]]...

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* ThatOneBoss: [[spoiler: Transformed [[spoiler:Transformed Achi - Earth Mimicry]]. Considering the bonus for this boss requires practically frame-perfect movement and aiming to stop any collateral damage AND that there's three ways to lose the fight (you die, time runs out, or [[spoiler:Earth is destroyed by Achi]]...)



* ThatOneLevel; Stage 2-2, you constantly bombarded by gunfire by turrets from gunship cruisers that are both bothersome and annoying, you can easily miss the time bonus from the mid-boss roughly half-way through and time items don't show until further in the level, plus if you're trying to get a high score run, missing chance to slash the mothership's core will strip you of your ''entire'' stage clear bonuses.

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* ThatOneLevel; ThatOneLevel: Stage 2-2, in which you are constantly bombarded by gunfire by turrets from gunship cruisers that are both bothersome and annoying, you can easily miss the time bonus from the mid-boss roughly half-way through and time items don't show up until further in the level, plus if you're trying to get a high score run, missing your chance to slash the mothership's core will strip you of your ''entire'' stage clear bonuses.



* ViewerGenderConfusion: Saki isn't exactly the most masculine looking video game character, leading to someone on [=NSider2's=] first thought on seeing his Assist Trophy update in the VideoGame/SuperSmashBros blog, "Who's the chick?" His Smash 4 trophy description outright lampshades this.

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* ViewerGenderConfusion: Saki isn't exactly the most masculine looking masculine-looking video game character, leading to someone on [=NSider2's=] first thought on seeing his Assist Trophy update in the VideoGame/SuperSmashBros ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'' blog, "Who's the chick?" His Smash 4 ''Smash 4'' trophy description outright lampshades this.
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** "Get Bonus!" Although, this could also be good if [[MostWonderfulSound you like high scores]].

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** "Get Bonus!" Although, this could also be good if [[MostWonderfulSound [[SugarWiki/MostWonderfulSound you like high scores]].
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* SpiritualLicensee: There's actually a third SinAndPunishment title out. It's called VideoGame/KidIcarusUprising.

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* SpiritualLicensee: There's actually a third SinAndPunishment VideoGame/SinAndPunishment title out. It's called VideoGame/KidIcarusUprising.
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** The evil aliens are called the ''Ruffians''. And people say that with all seriousness.
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* ViewerGenderConfusion: Saki isn't exactly the most masculine looking video game character, leading to someone on [=NSider2's=] first thought on seeing his Assist Trophy update in the VideoGame/SuperSmashBros blog, "Who's the chick?" The WiiU version of Smash 4 outright lampshades this.

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* ViewerGenderConfusion: Saki isn't exactly the most masculine looking video game character, leading to someone on [=NSider2's=] first thought on seeing his Assist Trophy update in the VideoGame/SuperSmashBros blog, "Who's the chick?" The WiiU version of His Smash 4 trophy description outright lampshades this.
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** Ruffian Saki's theme, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RirrfF0bORA Blood Infactor]]
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* ViewerGenderConfusion: Saki isn't exactly the most masculine looking video game character, leading to someone on [=NSider2's=] first thought on seeing his Assist Trophy update in the VideoGame/SuperSmashBros blog, "Who's the chick?"

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* ViewerGenderConfusion: Saki isn't exactly the most masculine looking video game character, leading to someone on [=NSider2's=] first thought on seeing his Assist Trophy update in the VideoGame/SuperSmashBros blog, "Who's the chick?"chick?" The WiiU version of Smash 4 outright lampshades this.
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* SpiritualLicensee: There's actually a third SinAndPunishment title out. It's called KidIcarusUprising.

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* SpiritualLicensee: There's actually a third SinAndPunishment title out. It's called KidIcarusUprising.VideoGame/KidIcarusUprising.
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** And then there's Leda: "FIGHT ME! NYYA! NYYA! NYAA-AOW! EYAAAAAA! [[OverlyLongGag NYYAAAAA!]]" It's at it's worst near the middle of 2-1, where she goes "NYAA" no less then ''eight'' times.

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** And then there's Leda: "FIGHT ME! NYYA! NYYA! NYAA-AOW! EYAAAAAA! [[OverlyLongGag NYYAAAAA!]]" It's at it's its worst near the middle of 2-1, where she goes "NYAA" no less then than ''eight'' times.
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Why on earth was that spoilered?


* AntiClimaxBoss: [[spoiler:The final boss is rather easy to beat]], but if you want to go for a Perfect Run (shoot every bullet thrown by the boss), that's a different story. Higher difficulty levels, however, will live up to the game's reputation.

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* AntiClimaxBoss: [[spoiler:The The final boss is rather easy to beat]], beat, but if you want to go for a Perfect Run (shoot every bullet thrown by the boss), that's a different story. Higher difficulty levels, however, will live up to the game's reputation.
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* SpiritualLicensee: There's actually a third SinAndPunishment title out. It's called KidIcarusUprising.

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** Also the goddamned "Heart Seeker". You are Airan, chasing the boss, a giant missile on a levitating platform, trying to shoot it down. It doesn't attack you. Why is it so difficult? Because it's aimed at Ruffian Saki. If it hits him, you die. It's been given enough hit points so that you can only possibly kill it if you basically NEVER MISS IT on the way down and then get pretty much the maximum possible amount of slashes in on it at the last minute when you're actually close enough. And Saki is attacking you the entire time, just to make life difficult. Oh, and this was on normal. Hard is hell.
** Heart Seeker is easier to beat when you don't lock on it, which you may not realize because you just fought a boss that you almost had to lock on to beat. Also, experienced players can position themselves so that Saki's shots will hit the heart seeker, but its a shock at first.

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** Also the goddamned "Heart Seeker". You are Airan, chasing the boss, a giant missile on a levitating platform, trying to shoot it down. It doesn't attack you. Why is it so difficult? Because it's aimed at Ruffian Saki. If it hits him, you die. It's been given enough hit points so that you can only possibly kill it if you basically NEVER MISS IT on the way down and then get pretty much the maximum possible amount of slashes in on it Polestar at the last minute when you're actually close enough. And Saki is attacking you the entire time, just end of 2-2, although that's more of a NoobBridge than anything for those who have yet to make life difficult. Oh, and this was on normal. Hard is hell.
** Heart Seeker is easier to beat when you don't lock on it, which you may not realize because you just fought a boss
figure out that you almost had to lock on to beat. Also, experienced players can position themselves so that Saki's shots will hit the heart seeker, but its a shock at first.auto-aim reduces shot damage.
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** Stage 3-3 can also be one since the controls were not made for a 2D side-scroller and you'll be fight the controls more than Ruffians.
* ViewerGenderConfusion: Saki isn't exactly the most masculine looking video game character, leading to someone on [=NSider2's=] first thought on seeing his assist trophy update in the VideoGame/SuperSmashBros blog, "Who's the chick?"

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** Stage 3-3 3-2 can also be one since the controls were not made for a 2D side-scroller and you'll be fight the controls more than Ruffians.
* ViewerGenderConfusion: Saki isn't exactly the most masculine looking video game character, leading to someone on [=NSider2's=] first thought on seeing his assist trophy Assist Trophy update in the VideoGame/SuperSmashBros blog, "Who's the chick?"

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnfDnCTQp8M Agave]], the BGM of Stage 2-1 and the Training stage, and [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CxX8n7NOWU Ally Risker's]], the BGM of Stage 3-2.
* DemonicSpiders

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnfDnCTQp8M Agave]], the BGM music of Stage 2-1 and the Training stage, and [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CxX8n7NOWU Ally Risker's]], the BGM of Risker's]] from Stage 3-2.
* DemonicSpidersDemonicSpiders: The centuar-like Seemers near the end of Stage 3-3 can deal heavy damage with their boomerang-like projectile that can sweep across the bottom or top halves of the screen and sometimes they attack at the worst possible time for you to dodge.



** And then there's Leda: "FIGHT ME! NYYA! NYYA! NYAA-AOW! EYAAAAAA! [[OverlyLongGag NYYAAAAA!"]] It's at it's worst near the middle of 2-1, where she goes "NYAA" no less then ''eight times.''
** "Get bonus!" Although, this could also be good if [[MostWonderfulSound you like high scores.]]
* {{Narm}}: Saki's voice(s). He sounds like a teenager in cutscenes and dialogue, yet when you're in control of him and making him attack, take damage, and get knocked down, ''he sounds like a middle-aged man.''

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** And then there's Leda: "FIGHT ME! NYYA! NYYA! NYAA-AOW! EYAAAAAA! [[OverlyLongGag NYYAAAAA!"]] NYYAAAAA!]]" It's at it's worst near the middle of 2-1, where she goes "NYAA" no less then ''eight times.''
''eight'' times.
** "Get bonus!" Bonus!" Although, this could also be good if [[MostWonderfulSound you like high scores.]]
scores]].
* {{Narm}}: Saki's voice(s). He sounds like a teenager in cutscenes and dialogue, yet when you're in control of him and making him attack, take damage, and get knocked down, ''he sounds like a middle-aged man.''man''.



* ScrappyMechanic / ThatOneLevel: Stage 3-2 is a wannabe sidescroller stage.
* ThatOneBoss: [[spoiler: Transformed Achi - Earth Mimicry]]. Considering the bonus for this boss requires practically frame-perfect movement and aiming to stop any collateral damage AND that there's three ways to lose the fight (you die, time runs out, or [[spoiler: Earth is destroyed by Achi]]...

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* ScrappyMechanic / ThatOneLevel: ScrappyMechanic: Stage 3-2 is a wannabe sidescroller stage.
* ThatOneBoss: [[spoiler: Transformed Achi - Earth Mimicry]]. Considering the bonus for this boss requires practically frame-perfect movement and aiming to stop any collateral damage AND that there's three ways to lose the fight (you die, time runs out, or [[spoiler: Earth [[spoiler:Earth is destroyed by Achi]]...



** Also the goddamned "Heart Seeker". You are Airan, chasing the boss, a giant missile on a levitating platform, trying to shoot it down. It doesn't attack you. Why is it so difficult? Because it's aimed at Ruffian Saki. If it hits him, you die. It's been given enough hitpoints so that you can only possibly kill it if you basically NEVER MISS IT on the way down and then get pretty much the maximum possible amount of slashes in on it at the last minute when you're actually close enough. And Saki is attacking you the entire time, just to make life difficult. Oh, and this was on normal. Hard is hell.

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** Also the goddamned "Heart Seeker". You are Airan, chasing the boss, a giant missile on a levitating platform, trying to shoot it down. It doesn't attack you. Why is it so difficult? Because it's aimed at Ruffian Saki. If it hits him, you die. It's been given enough hitpoints hit points so that you can only possibly kill it if you basically NEVER MISS IT on the way down and then get pretty much the maximum possible amount of slashes in on it at the last minute when you're actually close enough. And Saki is attacking you the entire time, just to make life difficult. Oh, and this was on normal. Hard is hell.


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* ThatOneLevel; Stage 2-2, you constantly bombarded by gunfire by turrets from gunship cruisers that are both bothersome and annoying, you can easily miss the time bonus from the mid-boss roughly half-way through and time items don't show until further in the level, plus if you're trying to get a high score run, missing chance to slash the mothership's core will strip you of your ''entire'' stage clear bonuses.
** Stage 3-3 can also be one since the controls were not made for a 2D side-scroller and you'll be fight the controls more than Ruffians.


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** It's sort-of balanced out by the fact that you'd have to be ''trying'' to lose before earning at least one continue, meaning you'll have as many chances to defeat the boss as you want.
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** "Get bonus!" Although, this could also be good if [[MostWonderfulSound you like high scores.]]
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misuse as emphasis


* ThatOneBoss: [[spoiler: Transformed Achi - Earth Mimicry]]. Considering the bonus for this boss requires [[BeyondTheImpossible practically frame-perfect movement and aiming]] to stop any collateral damage AND that there's three ways to lose the fight (you die, time runs out, or [[spoiler: Earth is destroyed by Achi]]...

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* ThatOneBoss: [[spoiler: Transformed Achi - Earth Mimicry]]. Considering the bonus for this boss requires [[BeyondTheImpossible practically frame-perfect movement and aiming]] aiming to stop any collateral damage AND that there's three ways to lose the fight (you die, time runs out, or [[spoiler: Earth is destroyed by Achi]]...

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* AnticlimaxBoss: [[spoiler:The final boss is rather easy to beat]], but if you want to go for a Perfect Run (shoot every bullet thrown by the boss), that's a different story. Higher difficulty levels, however, will live up to the game's reputation.
* AwesomeMusic: [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnfDnCTQp8M Agave]], the BGM of Stage 2-1 and the Training stage, and [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CxX8n7NOWU Ally Risker's]], the BGM of Stage 3-2.

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* AnticlimaxBoss: AntiClimaxBoss: [[spoiler:The final boss is rather easy to beat]], but if you want to go for a Perfect Run (shoot every bullet thrown by the boss), that's a different story. Higher difficulty levels, however, will live up to the game's reputation.
* AwesomeMusic: SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnfDnCTQp8M Agave]], the BGM of Stage 2-1 and the Training stage, and [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CxX8n7NOWU Ally Risker's]], the BGM of Stage 3-2.



* FanNickname: One of the Let's Plays on YouTube refers to Achi as "Seaweed Woman".
* MostAnnoyingSound: Airan's BigNo whenever she is hit

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* FanNickname: One of the Let's Plays on YouTube refers to Achi as "Seaweed Woman".
* MostAnnoyingSound: Airan's BigNo whenever she is hithit.
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** A lot of the voice acting in general is SoBadItsGood, especially Achi constantly overlapping ''her own'' dialogue.
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* AnticlimaxBoss: [[spoiler:The final boss is rather easy to beat]], but if you want to go for a Perfect Run (shoot every bullet thrown by the boss), that's a different story. Higher difficulty levels, however, will live up to the game's reputation.
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** Heart Seeker is easier to beat when you don't lock on it, which is you may not realize because you just fought a boss that you almost had to lock on to beat. Also, experienced players can position themselves so that Saki's shots will hit the heart seeker, but its a shock at first.

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** Heart Seeker is easier to beat when you don't lock on it, which is you may not realize because you just fought a boss that you almost had to lock on to beat. Also, experienced players can position themselves so that Saki's shots will hit the heart seeker, but its a shock at first.
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** What, we're forgetting Leda? "FIGHT ME! NYYA! NYYA! NYAA-AOW! EYAAAAAA! [[OverlyLongGag NYYAAAAA!"]] It's at it's worst near the middle of 2-1, where she goes "NYAA" no less then ''eight times.''

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** What, we're forgetting Leda? And then there's Leda: "FIGHT ME! NYYA! NYYA! NYAA-AOW! EYAAAAAA! [[OverlyLongGag NYYAAAAA!"]] It's at it's worst near the middle of 2-1, where she goes "NYAA" no less then ''eight times.''
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* AwesomeMusic: [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnfDnCTQp8M Agave]], the BGM of Stage 2-1 and the Training stage, and [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CxX8n7NOWU Ally Risker's]], the BGM of Stage 3-2.

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* DemonicSpiders



* MostAnnoyingSound (Airan's BigNo whenever she is hit)

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* MostAnnoyingSound (Airan's MostAnnoyingSound: Airan's BigNo whenever she is hit)hit



* {{Narm}} (Saki's voice(s). He sounds like a teenager in cutscenes and dialogue, yet when you're in control of him and making him attack, take damage, and get knocked down, ''he sounds like a middle-aged man.'')

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* {{Narm}} (Saki's {{Narm}}: Saki's voice(s). He sounds like a teenager in cutscenes and dialogue, yet when you're in control of him and making him attack, take damage, and get knocked down, ''he sounds like a middle-aged man.'')''



* ThatOneBoss ([[spoiler: Transformed Achi - Earth Mimicry]]. Considering the bonus for this boss requires [[BeyondTheImpossible practically frame-perfect movement and aiming]] to stop any collateral damage AND that there's three ways to lose the fight (you die, time runs out, or [[spoiler: Earth is destroyed by Achi]])...

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* ThatOneBoss ([[spoiler: ThatOneBoss: [[spoiler: Transformed Achi - Earth Mimicry]]. Considering the bonus for this boss requires [[BeyondTheImpossible practically frame-perfect movement and aiming]] to stop any collateral damage AND that there's three ways to lose the fight (you die, time runs out, or [[spoiler: Earth is destroyed by Achi]])...Achi]]...



* ViewerGenderConfusion: Saki isn't exactly the most masculine looking video game character, leading to someone on NSider2's first thought on seeing his assist trophy update in the SuperSmashBros blog, "Who's the chick?"
** In-wiki meta-example: as of this writing, this is the only place in the article where Saki's gender is mentioned.

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* ViewerGenderConfusion: Saki isn't exactly the most masculine looking video game character, leading to someone on NSider2's [=NSider2's=] first thought on seeing his assist trophy update in the SuperSmashBros VideoGame/SuperSmashBros blog, "Who's the chick?"
** In-wiki meta-example: as of this writing, this is the only place in the article where Saki's gender is mentioned.
chick?"

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