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* HilariousInHindsight: As mentioned on the WhatCouldHaveBeen section on the Trivia page, one of the names that the band had considered before picking the name "Sex Pistols" was, hilariously enough, "Music/TheDamned". ''At around the exact same time'', the then-recently formed Music/{{Ultravox}} were planning on calling themselves "The Damned" as well, before learning that the name was taken[[note]]Which is even more hilarious when you remember that Midge Ure was the original candidate to be the Pistols' singer before Johnny Rotten was recruited.[[/note]]. Seems like "The Damned" may have just been a common starting name for emerging punk/new wave artists...
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** "New York" is a DissTrack to the Music/NewYorkDolls, who had already disbanded by the time ''Bollocks'' was released.
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* FaceOfTheBand: [[Music/JohnLydon Johnny Rotten]] and Music/SidVicious.
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* [[SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct He Really Can Play]]: Steve Jones. See VindicatedByHistory below.
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* [[SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct He SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct: Well, "He Really Can Play]]: Play" in Steve Jones. See VindicatedByHistory below.Jones's. Those used to the strict ThreeChordsAndTheTruth version of PunkRock often come away thinking the Sex Pistols sound more like a HardRock band after hearing Steve play.
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* MisBlamed: The Pistols for the Bill Grundy controversy. The band were angry that Grundy refused to take them seriously, was drunk on live television, and tried to goad them into saying something controversial. While John Lydon played coy and muttered "shit" under his breath, the most famous swearing during the broadcast actually seemed to be unintentional. Steve Jones only swore at Grundy after [[DirtyOldMan he made a sexually explicit pass]] at the band's friend [[Music/SiouxsieAndTheBanshees Siouxsie Sioux]], who was also present in the studio. Jones only gave Grundy [[PrecisionFStrike exactly what he wanted all night]] out of rage, on the spur of the moment.
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* MisBlamed: The Pistols for the Bill Grundy controversy. The band were angry that Grundy refused to take them seriously, was drunk on live television, and tried to goad them into saying something controversial. While John Lydon played coy and muttered Johnny Rotten did appear to "start" things up by muttering "shit" under his breath, he would later played coy when asked about it, meaning that it didn't even seem to be intentional. And the most famous swearing during the broadcast actually seemed to be unintentional. not for just trolling: Steve Jones only swore at Grundy after [[DirtyOldMan he made a sexually explicit pass]] at the band's barely-of-legal-age friend [[Music/SiouxsieAndTheBanshees Siouxsie Sioux]], who was also present in the studio. Jones only gave Grundy [[PrecisionFStrike exactly what he wanted all night]] out of rage, on the spur of the moment.
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* ValuesDissonance: The profanity on the Grundy show appearance is not so shocking now. But what is is that the middle-aged Grundy seems to have no problem with the idea that [[DirtyOldMan he can publicly talk about trying to pick up the 16-year-old Siouxsie Sioux after the show]]. (Subverted a bit in Jones immediately calling him out on it, although in context at the time it comes across as the band just [[BatmanGambit responding to Grundy's provocation]].)
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* GenreTurningPoint: The entire stereotype of TheQuincyPunk is based mostly on things that the Sex Pistols did and said, giving punk rock its ethos of confrontational trollishness and rough living.
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* TearJerker: The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3K3uAlyNL5o performance of "No Fun" as the last song of their last show]] (pre-reunion) is pretty heartbreaking, as you get to both see and hear Johnny Rotten realise it's all over mid-song.
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* TearJerker: The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3K3uAlyNL5o performance of "No Fun" as the last song of their last show]] (pre-reunion) is pretty heartbreaking, as since you get to both can see and hear Johnny Rotten realise it's all over mid-song.
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** "Holidays in the Sun" is about the UsefulNotes/BerlinWall, which clearly dates it to before its demolition on November 9, 1989.
** ''The Great Rock 'n' Roll Swindle'' has Steve Jones and Paul Cook "finding" Martin Bormann in Brazil, based on the belief at the time that Bormann could have survived World War II and escape to South America. This dates it as before 1998, when DNA analysis to some remains found in 1972 revealed them as being Bormann's, thus confirming that he did die during the fall of Berlin.
** "Holidays in the Sun" is about the UsefulNotes/BerlinWall, which clearly dates it to before its demolition on November 9, 1989.
** ''The Great Rock 'n' Roll Swindle'' has Steve Jones and Paul Cook "finding" Martin Bormann in Brazil, based on the belief at the time that Bormann could have survived World War II and escape to South America. This dates it as before 1998, when DNA analysis to some remains found in 1972 revealed them as being Bormann's, thus confirming that he did die during the fall of Berlin.
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* MorePopularReplacement: Music/SidVicious replaced Glen Matlock as the bassist and became one of the most iconic punk musicians of all time.
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* ValuesDissonance: The profanity on the Grundy show appearance is not so shocking now. But what is is that the middle-aged Grundy seems to have no problem with the idea that [[DirtyOldMan he can publicly talk about trying to pick up the 16-year-old Siouxsie Sioux after the show]] (Subverted a bit in Jones immediately calling him out on it, although in context at the time it comes across as the band just [[BatmanGambit responding to Grundy's provocation]].
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* VindicatedByHistory: The band, except Music/SidVicious but especially with Steve Jones, who is finally being recognized as a surprisingly talented guitarist. Those used to the strict ThreeChordsAndTheTruth version of PunkRock often come away thinking the Sex Pistols sound more like a HardRock band after hearing Steve play.
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* VindicatedByHistory: The band, except Music/SidVicious Music/SidVicious, but especially with Steve Jones, who is finally being recognized as a surprisingly talented guitarist. Those used to the strict ThreeChordsAndTheTruth version of PunkRock often come away thinking the Sex Pistols sound more like a HardRock band after hearing Steve play.
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* MisBlamed: The Pistols for the Bill Grundy controversy. The band were angry that Grundy refused to take them seriously, was drunk on live television and tried to goad them into saying something controversial. While John Lydon, played coy and muttered "shit" under his breath, the most famous swearing during the broadcast actually seemed to be unintentional. Steve Jones only swore at Grundy after [[DirtyOldMan he made a sexually explicit pass]] at the band's friend [[Music/SiouxsieAndTheBanshees Siouxsie Sioux]], who was also present in the studio. Jones only gave Grundy [[PrecisionFStrike exactly what he wanted all night]] out of rage, at the spur of the moment.
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* MisBlamed: The Pistols for the Bill Grundy controversy. The band were angry that Grundy refused to take them seriously, was drunk on live television television, and tried to goad them into saying something controversial. While John Lydon, Lydon played coy and muttered "shit" under his breath, the most famous swearing during the broadcast actually seemed to be unintentional. Steve Jones only swore at Grundy after [[DirtyOldMan he made a sexually explicit pass]] at the band's friend [[Music/SiouxsieAndTheBanshees Siouxsie Sioux]], who was also present in the studio. Jones only gave Grundy [[PrecisionFStrike exactly what he wanted all night]] out of rage, at the spur of the moment.
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* TheWoobie: Say what you will about the guy, but what is known of Music/SidVicious' life, both before and after the Sex Pistols, is actually pretty heartbreaking.
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* TheWoobie: Say what you will about the guy, but what is known of Music/SidVicious' Music/SidVicious's life, both before and after the Sex Pistols, is actually pretty heartbreaking.
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* MemeticLoser: Sid Vicious gets a lot of this in guitar/bass playing circles, due to being a DreadfulMusician
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* MisBlamed: The Pistols for the Bill Grundy controversy. The band were angry that Grundy refused to take them seriously, was drunk on live television and tried to goad them into saying something controversial. While John Lydon, played coy and muttered "shit" under his breath, the most famous swearing during the broadcast actually seemed to be unintentional. Steve Jones only swore at Grundy after he made a sexually explicit pass at the band's friend [[Music/SiouxsieAndTheBanshees Siouxsie Sioux]], who was also present in the studio. Jones only gave Grundy [[PrecisionFStrike exactly what he wanted all night]] out of rage, at the spur of the moment.
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* MisBlamed: The Pistols for the Bill Grundy controversy. The band were angry that Grundy refused to take them seriously, was drunk on live television and tried to goad them into saying something controversial. While John Lydon, played coy and muttered "shit" under his breath, the most famous swearing during the broadcast actually seemed to be unintentional. Steve Jones only swore at Grundy after [[DirtyOldMan he made a sexually explicit pass pass]] at the band's friend [[Music/SiouxsieAndTheBanshees Siouxsie Sioux]], who was also present in the studio. Jones only gave Grundy [[PrecisionFStrike exactly what he wanted all night]] out of rage, at the spur of the moment.
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* AwardSnub: Inverted. The band snubbed the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, calling it a "piss stain." [[http://www.lettersofnote.com/2010/09/rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-is-piss.html The entire letter, for those who are interested]].
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* PainfulRhyme: "I am an antichrist! I am an anarch-eye-st!" Made on purpose of couse, as the way he sang was the equivalent of sneering.
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** Played somewhat straight with the rest of the band, but especially with Steve Jones, who is finally being recognized as a surprisingly talented guitarist. Those used to the strict ThreeChordsAndTheTruth version of PunkRock often come away thinking the Sex Pistols sound more like a HardRock band after hearing Steve play.
** Inverted in the case of Music/SidVicious. During the eighties he was frequently touted as a musical genius whereas now he's recognized for the DreadfulMusician he really was.
** Played somewhat straight with the rest of the band, but especially with Steve Jones, who is finally being recognized as a surprisingly talented guitarist. Those used to the strict ThreeChordsAndTheTruth version of PunkRock often come away thinking the Sex Pistols sound more like a HardRock band after hearing Steve play.
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-->Oh bollocks, why should I carry on? (...) [[CreepyMonotone No fun. This is no fun. No fun.]] [[SuspiciouslyAproposMusic It is no fun at all.]] (...) Ever get the feeling you've been cheated? Goodnight. (MicDrop)
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-->Oh bollocks, why should I carry on? (...) [[CreepyMonotone No fun. This is no fun. No fun.]] [[SuspiciouslyAproposMusic It is no fun at all.]] all. (...) Ever get the feeling you've been cheated? Goodnight. (MicDrop)
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* PainfulRhyme: "I am an antichrist! I am an anarch-eye-st!" Made on purpose. The way he sang was the equivalent of sneering.
* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: They'd barely be a blip on the radar of shocking the masses today, but back in the day they started a revolution.
* PainfulRhyme: "I am an antichrist! I am an anarch-eye-st!" Made on purpose. The way he sang was the equivalent of sneering.
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* {{Misblamed}}: MisBlamed: The Pistols for the Bill Grundy controversy. The band were angry that Grundy refused to take them seriously, was drunk on live television and tried to goad them into saying something controversial. While John Lydon, played coy and muttered "shit" under his breath, the most famous swearing during the broadcast actually seemed to be unintentional. Steve Jones only swore at Grundy after he made a sexually explicit pass at the band's friend [[Music/SiouxsieAndTheBanshees Siouxsie Sioux]], who was also present in the studio. Jones only gave Grundy [[PrecisionFStrike exactly what he wanted all night]] out of rage, at the spur of the moment.
* PainfulRhyme: "I am an antichrist! I am an anarch-eye-st!" Made onpurpose. The purpose of couse, as the way he sang was the equivalent of sneering.
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* VindicatedByHistory: Inverted in the case of Music/SidVicious. During the eighties he was frequently touted as a musical genius whereas now he's recognized for the DreadfulMusician he really was. Played somewhat straight with the rest of the band, but especially with Steve Jones who is finally being recognized as a surprisingly talented guitarist. Those used to the strict ThreeChordsAndTheTruth version of PunkRock often come away thinking the Sex Pistols sound more like a HardRock band after hearing Steve play.
* TheWoobie: Say what you will about the guy, but what is known of Music/SidVicious’ life, both before and after the Sex Pistols, is actually pretty heartbreaking.
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* {{Misblamed}}: The Pistols for the Bill Grundy controversy. The band were angry that Grundy refused to take them seriously, was drunk on live television and tried to goad them into saying something controversial. While John Lydon, played coy and muttered "shit" under his breath, the most famous swearing during the broadcast actually seemed to be unintentional. Steve Jones only swore at Grundy after he made a sexually explicit pass at the band's friend [[SiouxsieAndTheBanshees [[Music/SiouxsieAndTheBanshees Siouxsie Sioux]], who was also present in the studio. Jones only gave Grundy [[PrecisionFStrike exactly what he wanted all night]] out of rage, at the spur of the moment.
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* LoveItOrHateIt: For all their fame and influence, there are still many people out there who hate the band. Let's face it folks: The Sex Pistols are either one of the greatest bands to form and influence [[Music/JoyDivision certain]] [[Music/TheSmiths bands]] to become big ''or'' are just a very painful band to listen to, complete with their assumed [[TheGadfly Gadfly]] personalities. Especially Rotten.
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