History YMMV / SaintSeiyaOmega

* IKnewIt:
** Several fans already predicted Eden's role in the second season during its premiere. It also helped that the opening basically showed people Eden's side.
** [[spoiler:Shiryu using the Libra Cloth was shown in #77 preview. Many fans knew it would show up after he gave Dragon Cloth to his son and Genbu died]].

%%* CrazyAwesome: Haruto is slowly rising to this.

** However, in both Shaina and June's cases, they chose to love the men who had seen their faces (Pegasus Seiya and Andromeda Shun, respectively), even knowing their love would go [[AllLoveIsUnrequited unrequited]], so actually they were in compliance with the mask law (a female Saint whose face has been seen by a man must choose between killing him or loving him). Also, while June is not seen again after Shun's battle with Spika and Leda, Ophichus Shaina keeps wearing her mask after Seiya had seen her face (even in this series as well), so she still complies with the mask law. While Yuna chooses not to wear her mask because of "freedom" (her own desire of not being bound by the mask law).

** However, in both Shaina and June's cases, they chose to love the men who had seen their faces (Pegasus Seiya and Andromeda Shun, respectively), even knowing their love would go [[AllLoveIsUnrequited unrequited]], so actually they were in compliance with the mask law (a female Saint whose face has been seen by a man must choose between killing him or loving him). While Yuna chooses not to wear her mask because of "freedom".

** Paradox' strongest move is called Film/FinalDestination. The premise of that film is that people tried to cheat their fate (specifically, their death) but fails gruesomely, and no matter what they do, they can't fight fate. Paradox always cheated her fate by predicting her future through reading the stars, then chooses the easier option. By the time she stopped cheating, [[spoiler: death comes for her. Sure, she managed to defy the fate of Geminis are supposed to hate and kill each other, but she cannot avoid the fate of the older Gemini would die before the younger does. Subverted that she is completely aware continue fighting would kill her when she is mortally wounded. ]] Doesn't change the fact that in the end, she cannot defy fate ''completely''.

* AntiClimaxBoss:
** Ionia.
** From episode 95... [[spoiler:Europa and Mira. The latter got 1HKO'ED while the former lost his Chronotector after a single attack and got slain after [[VillainsWantMercy his futile attempt at begging for mercy.]]]]
** Since Ikki never felt Mira was a threat anyway, it was to be expected. However it was a surprise for Europa.

* BrokenBase: The second season as a whole. Is it a SurprisinglyImprovedSequel for returning the Cloths back to its classic roots, bringing back the old cast and have them join forces with the new one, or is it a SeasonalRot for swapping out key staff members for relative unknowns and PanderingToTheBase by bringing back the clunky and old-fashioned Cloth Boxes and hindering the CharacterDevelopment of some characters, like Souma and Yuna, in favor of the return of the classic Saints?

* ContestedSequel: Much like with ''Anime/DragonBallGT'', it's gotten this reception, due to Kurumada's near-zero involvement. While it does avert the filler that plagued the original due to it being AnimeOriginal, and the series does [[GrowingTheBeard improve]] as noted below, the early episodes, changes to the cloths and art style are often cited against it.
* CrazyAwesome: Haruto is slowly rising to this.
* DamselScrappy:
** Saori as usual.
** Aria is also this to many fans as well.

* FashionVictimVillain: Abzu [[spoiler:after being removed from Koga]]. His armor is an asymmetric amalgamation of animal heads, black armor, [[SpikesOfVillainy spikes]], and much, much more. Considering that he's a primordial god who birthed life, it's kind of justified.

* FridgeBrilliance: Ever wondered why there is a dark Pegasus Cloth Stone with a regular one when going to commercials? It's a sign of Kouga's use of light and dark cosmo. Epic foreshadowing since episode 1.
** FridgeBrilliance meets ParentalBonus: Shiryu seems to be a happier man after the Mars chapter. While it can be said that he's just happy that his son is safe and the Dark Cosmo infecting him is gone, one can also suspect that he's happy because there's now a chance of him and Shunrei giving Ryuhou a younger sibling.

* GrowingTheBeard: Despite the DownerBeginning, the show's first episodes are relatively light-hearted as they focus on Koga meeting the other main characters and learning how to use his Cosmos. It is when Koga is beaten up by the Director, Mars returns and the main characters start running for their lives that the show starts showing its true colors.

** Paradox' strongest move is Film/FinalDestination. The premise of that film is that people tried to cheat their fate (specifically, their death) but fails gruesomely, and no matter what they do, they can't fight fate. Paradox always cheated her fate by predicting her future through reading the stars, then chooses the easier option. By the time she stopped cheating, [[spoiler: death comes for her. Sure, she managed to defy the fate of Geminis are supposed to hate and kill each other, but she cannot avoid the fate of the older Gemini would die before the younger does. Subverted that she is completely aware continue fighting would kill her when she is mortally wounded. ]] Doesn't change the fact that in the end, she cannot defy fate ''completely''.

* IKnewIt: Several fans already predicted Eden's role in the second season during its premiere. It also helped that the opening basically showed people Eden's side.

* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: Killing a returning character? Seriously? Would Toei really do what Kurumada wouldn't?
* MemeticMolester:
** Gemini Paradox. That is all.
** And now, Pisces Amor.

* NightmareFuel: The ending of episode 25. The results of opening that door were creepy as hell.

*** Pisces Amor, the most powerful of all Gold Saints by a mile [[spoiler:and Medea's brother]], has an infatuation with Yuna. While not quite played to Yandere levels, his persistent advances (to the point of willingly forcing her to sit next to him using his powers) still come off as quite unsettling.
** Fudou is one distubing saint. His palace was very unsettling with that magma that drains life energy but that's not all. When he dons his cloth and lauches his attack, NightmareFace kicks in and boy is it creepy (though to be expected with the name Fudou).

* SugarWiki/NoProblemWithLicensedGames: Goddamn, ''Saint Seiya Omega: Ultimate Cosmo'' is just good. [[AnimationBump For starters, all the animated cutscenes are significantly better animated than the anime itself]]. [[spoiler:Also, the Triton Scale that all the player characters get to wear at a certain point.]]

** Subaru was apparently created to be a scrappy as he was a ButtMonkey and talked a lot. However, he got several episodes that developed his character alongside the other Steel Saints which made the character more appealing.
** Arguably, the very concept of Steel Saints. While this particular class of Saints was absolutely hated in the classic series due to being created for the anime, causing them to appear awkwardly in scenes they weren't meant to be in, clearly existing only to sell toys, and then they disappeared mysteriously; in Omega they are shown to serve as the CannonFodder of Athena's troops, they hardly take any spotlight as they exist to get shot down, and whenever a Steel Saint is focused on (Ema, Keri), they're well-written and likable. Not being constrained by being a manga adaptation allowed far greater use of this concept.
* TheScrappy:
** The revelation that season 2 (or at least the manga of the same) will include [[spoiler:a Steel Saint]]. General reaction among the fandom can be summed up as "Who let THEM back into the show?"
*** Said character has already reached [[TheScrappy Scrappydom]] all on his own within seconds of his introduction due to being a JerkAss SmallNameBigEgo who pretty much just serves as CannonFodder in his first actual fight. In fact, he's not only a Scrappy in the sense of being someone whom most of the fanbase dislikes - his whole personality puts one in mind of Scrappy Doo.
** Saori, as usual, and for the same reason as always: serving for virtually nothing else than being a DistressedDamsel who needs to be rescued from the clutches of the BigBad.
*** So far the "she's the true leader and source of the power needed to deal the killing blow to the BigBad" subversion hasn't come around yet like it did several times in the original series. Largely because ''Omega''[='=]s first conflict isn't even over yet and she started that like some of her original Bronzes did--with a viral case of cosmo-crippling darkness.
*** [[spoiler:Considering the fact that Saori and Aria's gift of light (both literally and figuratively) means [[ThePowerOfLove Koga tends to get a massive psychic power boost from just remembering them]], maybe people ought to rethink the uselessness of Athena…]]
* SubliminalAdvertising: How? Inserting [[http://i.imgur.com/QcIjT.jpg pegasus-like]] clothes in main character in a [[Anime/BattleSpiritsSwordEyes Card-Game anime]] and a [[http://i.imgur.com/csQPF.jpg pegasus power-up]] in a [[Anime/SmilePrettyCure magical girls anime]] IN THE SAME CHANNEL AND [[http://i.imgur.com/s38Vj.png SAME DAY]]!

* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: They could have shown Aria developing into a successor for Saori, paralelling Koga's development as Seiya's successor. Instead, [[spoiler: she gets StuffedIntoTheFridge halfway through the first season.]]

** [[spoiler:Ionia, Mycenae and Amor.]]

** [[spoiler: The whole group deserves mention here. Sure, let them split up the party, leaving only two Bronze Saints to protect the girl they're supposed to be escorting, while the whole army of Mars is tracking them down to take her back. [[WhatCouldPossiblyGoWrong What could possibly go wrong]]? [[IdiotBall One episode later, they lose her]].]]

* WinBACKTheCrowd: Or to be more specific win back the BrokenBase. People who nitpicked the series just based on the Cloths started becoming nicer with the second season's new designs.

** While not a notable scrappy, Seiya was the least popular Bronze Saint from the original manga. Some fans didn't like his hot heated personality, [[PlotArmor or how much damage he could take]]. In ''Omega'' Seiya is instead characterized as OlderAndWiser acting as TheMentor without stealing the credit. He was so popular he made it first to the Toei popularity poll from the series. His BigDamnHeroes moments probably helped.

* BrokenBase:
** The change in art style and the spandex looking Armors.
** The change of the Eagle cloth from silver to bronze.
** Kurumada's near-zero involvement with the series.
** [[HeroAcademy Palaestra.]]
** And top of all that, there's the new set of ElementalPowers rules that, depending on your opinon, either gives focus to the mythos or painfully limits the scope of the series.
** The second season as a whole. Is it a SurprisinglyImprovedSequel for returning the Cloths back to its classic roots, bringing back the old cast and have them join forces with the new one, or is it a SeasonalRot for swapping out key staff members for relative unknowns and PanderingToTheBase by bringing back the clunky and old-fashioned Cloth Boxes and hindering the CharacterDevelopment of some characters, like Souma and Yuna, in favor of the return of the classic Saints?

** The whole episode about the TenMinuteRetirement of Haruto to become a rock star was intended to be something very serious and dramatic, but some viewers found it to be unintentionally amusing. There is also the scene which shows why Haruto decides to become a singer after [[spoiler:listening a song in the radio (Which is the new opening of the series.) What makes the scene so bizarre is that he was listening rock music in the radio seated next to the grave of his friend(and previous Wolf Saint) Yoshitomi.]] Haruto announces his TenMinuteRetirement to become a singer with this magnificent line:

* NarmCharm: In the Latin-American Spanish dub, Harbingir's first voice actor was Juan Alfonso Carralero, known as the semi-official VA for [[Series/BeakmansWorld Paul Zaloom]], Creator/WillSmith, Creator/DavidHasselhoff. Older fans familiar with the guy's work couldn't help giggling upon hearing Harbingir talk like an angrier [[Film/MenInBlack Agent J]] or [[Series/BayWatch Mitch Buchannon]], yet at the same time they couldn't help thinking "so THAT is how Beakman sounds when he's truly angry?! Wow, cool!"

*** Pisces Amor, the most powerful of all Gold Saints by a mile [[spoiler:and Medea's brother]], has an infatuation with Yuna. While not quite played to Yandere levels, his persistent advances (to the point of willingly forcing her sit next to him using his powers) still come off as quite unsettling.
** Fudou is one distubing saint. His palace was very unsetling with that magma that drains life energy but that's not all. When he dons his cloth and lauches his attack, NightmareFace kicks in and boy is it creepy.

* ReplacementScrappy: Gemini Paradox is considered this in some parts of the fandom, either because of her ItsAllAboutMe attitude, her MemeticMolester behaviour towards Ryuho, or simply because she's not fan favourites Saga or Kanon.

** Tatsumi was hated by most of the fandom during the original series for his scenes involving beating underages going as far as to whipping Ikki and [[KarmaHoudini never got punished for it.]] Now, in ''Omega'' he is much of a PluckyComicRelief and at the same time OlderAndWiser. Unlike Seiya, Koga considers him an important person comparing him with a relative. This was proved in the third season's beginning when he defended Koga from an enemy.
** While not a notable scrappy, Seiya was the least popular Bronze Saint from the original manga. Some fans didn't like his hot heated personality, [[PlotArmor how much damage he can take]]. In ''Omega'' Seiya is instead characterized as OlderAndWiser acting as TheMentor without stealing the credit. He was so popular he made it first to the Toei popularity poll from the series. His BigDamnHeroes moments probably helped.

* {{Misblamed}}: Some fans of ''Lost Canvas'' blame Omega for Lost Canvas not getting continued. Which is full on FanDumb because a weekly television series has absolutely no effect on what is an OVA release, and the fact that the two shows are done by entirely different animation studios.

* TheWoobie: As per tradition of the series, it has a lot.

* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: The second season's finale features Koga and Abzu in one of the most mindblowing fights scene the franchise ever saw. This writer got Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann vibes when Kouga had no colors.

* FoeYay: A small but increasing amount between Souma and Sonia, [[spoiler:especially after he sees how she ''really'' killed his father]].

* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotPolitical: One can't help but see Yuna as a character with strong feminist bent, with her defying the traditions for female saints to wear masks. The same defiance can also be seen as a TakeThat against certain religions with similarly imposing decency law.

* NoProblemWithLicensedGames: Goddamn, ''Saint Seiya Omega: Ultimate Cosmo'' is just good. [[AnimationBump For starters, all the animated cutscenes are significantly better animated than the anime itself]]. [[spoiler:Also, the Triton Scale that all the player characters get to wear at a certain point.]]

** In the Latin-American Spanish dub, Harbingir's first voice actor was Juan Alfonso Carralero, known as the semi-official VA for Creator/WillSmith and Creator/DavidHasselhoff. Older fans familiar with the guy's work couldn't help giggling upon hearing Harbingir talk like an angrier [[Film/MenInBlack Agent J]] or [[Series/BayWatch Mitch Buchannon]].

* CommonCrossover: With the ''PrettyCure'' franchise, in particular ''Anime/HeartcatchPrettyCure'' (in which its first character designer previously took part) and ''Anime/SmilePrettyCure'' (which was the one airing when it premiered), to the point of spawning a few relatively obscure {{crossover ship}}s.

** It would be quicker to list the aspects of [[{{Yandere}} Gemini Paradox]]' character that is ''not'' some kind of NightmareFuel. If her gender and Ryuuhou is swapped, she would come off as an extremely disturbing and disgusting man.
*** Case and point: Pisces Amor, the most powerful of all Gold Saints by a mile [[spoiler:and Medea's brother]], has an infatuation with Yuna. While not quite played to Yandere levels, his persistent advances (to the point of willingly forcing her sit next to him using his powers) still come off as quite unsettling.

** In the Latin-American Spanish dub, Harbingir's first voice actor was Juan Alfonso Carralero, known as the semi-official VA for Creator/WillSmith and David Hasselhoff. Older fans familiar with the guy's older roles couldn't help giggling upon hearing Harbingir talk like an angrier [[Film/MenInBlack Agent J]] or [[Series/BayWatch Mitch Buchannan]]

* TheyJustDidntCare: Episode 86 is full of animation issues that are very easy to spot.

* HarsherInHindsight: [[spoiler: The [[FaceHeelTurn Director's betrayal]] seems harsher if you remember Capricorn Saints are said to be the most loyals to Athena... Oops]].
** Only in the anime. In the manga, no such thing is ever stated [[spoiler:and Shura is a traitor being damn well aware of it and taking pleasure from having killed Aiolos]].

** Saori/Athena is infamous for being a DamselScrappy. While the early episodes didn't help to deny this, late season 1 shows a scene where she manages to hold a meteor falling to Earth. While that moment lasted shortly, in season 2 she actually goes with the Saints to enemy's place in order to confront her sister. The fact that she manages to fight against Pallas with her Gold Cloth and winning all alone made the episode noteworthy.

** There's also the second opening, Root Five's [[http://youtu.be/fgczQJ6MqoY?list=LLMdoVB4Czi54heZeOX1dwYA "Next Generation"]] (also called "New Ω Myth", though that doesn't seem to be an official title), which, as a rock/techno take on ''Seiya'' themes, manages to trade off a notch of bishonen for a notch of badass while still remaining surprisingly faithful to the concept.

** There's also the second opening, Root Five's "Next Generation" (also called "New Ω Myth", though that doesn't seem to be an official title), which, as a rock/techno take on ''Seiya'' themes, manages to trade off a notch of bishonen for a notch of badass while still remaining surprisingly faithful to the concept.

* EnsembleDarkhorse: Taurus Harbinger for his anti-hero traits as well his long story arc in contrast to previous Taurus Saints whose actions were quite disappointing.

* {{Misblaimed}}: Some fans of ''Lost Canvas'' blame Omega for Lost Canvas not getting continued. Which is full on FanDumb because a weekly television series has absolutely no effect on what is an OVA release, and the fact that the two shows are done by entirely different animation studios.

* SpotlightStealingSquad: In Season 2 with Saints and other characters from the older generation having more of the focus than the Omega characters. On the other hand, this is also BrokenBase. Many who appreciated their return believe they are being wasted as character, while some of those who liked the new characters feel the former's comeback stole the focus from the latter.

* TooCoolToLive: [[spoiler:Ionia, Mycenae and Amor.]]

* TheWoobie: As per tradition of the series, it has a lot.

* AntiClimaxBoss: Ionia.

* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The opening is a nice sendback to the original opening, which too was pretty awesome. The song starts off nice and sombre complete with a female singer (Shoko Nakagawa of "[[Manga/FullmetalAlchemist Ray of Light]]" fame, who also voices Saori in this series), then kicks off into a rock off similar to the original, even going as far as bringing the original singer for the song into the song.

** Some fans of ''Lost Canvas'' blame Omega for Lost Canvas not getting continued. Which is full on FanDumb because a weekly television series has absolutely no effect on what is an OVA release, and the fact that the two shows are done by entirely different animation studios.

* DamselScrappy: Saori.

* MemeticMolester: Gemini Paradox. That is all.

* {{Narm}}: Mars (the god)'s EvilPlan in episode 29 to [[spoiler: move Mars (the planet) between Earh and the Sun and thus blot out the Earth's sunlight]] puts one in mind of [[WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes a certain other Martian]]: "It obstructs our view of Venus!"

* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Tatsumi was hated by most of the fandom during the original series for his scenes involving beating underages going as far as to whipping Ikki and [[KarmaHoudini never got punished for it.]] Now, in ''Omega'' he is much of a PluckyComicRelief and at the same time OlderAndWiser. Unlike Seiya, Koga considers him an important person comparing him with a relative. This was proved in the third season's beginning when he defended Koga from an enemy.

* SpotlightStealingSquad: In Season 2 with Saints and other characters from the older generation having more of the focus than the Omega characters.
** On the other hand, this is also BrokenBase. Many who appreciated their return believe they are being wasted as character, while some of those who liked the new characters feel the former's comeback stole the focus from the latter.

* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: The second season's finale features Koga and Abzu in one of the most mindblowing fights scene the franchise ever saw. This writer got TengenToppaGurrenLagann vibes when Kouga had no colors.

*** [[spoiler: I think Kouga and Yuna are exempt from this one. Well, Kouga has a different set of idiot moments.]]