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* ValuesResonance: While doing so for entirely selfish reasons, Johnny [=LaRue=] wanting to secure "the gay vote" in his mayoral campaign comes off as quite progressive and forward-thinking for the time.

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* ValuesResonance: While doing so it's for entirely selfish reasons, Johnny [=LaRue=] wanting to secure "the gay vote" in his mayoral campaign comes off as quite progressive and forward-thinking for the time.

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** CCCP1 broadcast a game show called ''Uposcrabblenyk'', apparently based of the [[TabletopGame/{{Scrabble}} board game]]. That episode was one of the ones broadcast on NBC- which, three years later, would debut an ''actual'' ''Scrabble'' [[Series/{{Scrabble}} game show]].

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** CCCP1 broadcast [=CCCP1=] broadcasts a game show called ''Uposcrabblenyk'', apparently based of the [[TabletopGame/{{Scrabble}} board game]]. That episode was one of the ones broadcast on NBC- which, three years later, would debut an ''actual'' ''Scrabble'' [[Series/{{Scrabble}} game show]].


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* ValuesResonance: While doing so for entirely selfish reasons, Johnny [=LaRue=] wanting to secure "the gay vote" in his mayoral campaign comes off as quite progressive and forward-thinking for the time.
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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: Between the hairstyles (Eugene Levy's afro and Joe Flaherty's season one wings and swoopy bangs being particularly obvious examples), the fashion (Earl Camembert's suits and glasses), the cultural references (an entire episode-long wraparound plot spoofing the Cold War), and the ValuesDissonance (Lin Ye Tang, anyone?), this show could have only been made in the 1970s and early 80s. Eugene Levy and Joe Flaherty even reference this on a DVD commentary, while watching a sketch where Dave Thomas plays another, entirely different, offensive Asian caricature.
-->'''Joe Flaherty''': You think we could get away with this today?
--> '''Eugene Levy''': (completely deadpan) I doubt it, Joe.
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** While the 1982 Emmy acceptance fiasco is mostly hilarious, the very end of Joe Flaherty's acceptance speech is the cutest thing ever.
-->'''Joe Flaherty''', thanking people for the award: ... And my daughter, Gudrun. Hello, Gudrun! (CatSmile)
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* CrossesTheLineTwice: Johnny LaRue suddenly waking up and blurting out "You couldn't tell she was 11, I swear!" during ''Mr. Science with Johnny LaRue''.

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* CrossesTheLineTwice: Johnny LaRue [=LaRue=] suddenly waking up and blurting out "You couldn't tell she was 11, I swear!" during ''Mr. Science with Johnny LaRue''.[=LaRue=]''.
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* CrossesTheLineTwice: Johnny LaRue suddenly waking up and blurting out "You couldn't tell she was 11, I swear!" during ''Mr. Science with Johnny LaRue''.
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** Given the trouble that "Alex Trebel" had with Margaret Meehan during the "High Q" sketches, it was funny when an actual woman named Margaret Meehan appeared on ''{{Series/Jeopardy}}'' in 2004 (unlike her fictional namesake she was good enough to win two days in a row).
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** Bobby plants a kiss directly on Sammy's lips in ''their very first appearance together'' not three minutes after kissing him on the cheek and giving him a big hug as a greeting. Sammy doesn't look like he's objecting in the slightest.
** The news team delves into FoeYay on a regular basis. Earl's clueless attempts to get Floyd's attention and amuse him that just end up annoying him are very reminiscent of a little kid with a crush, and then there's the times Floyd [[AwLookTheyReallyDoLoveEachOther displays actual affection or at least concern for Earl]]...
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** One segment of ''Great White North'' had the brothers talking about ''Franchise/StarWars'', and Bob lamented that he wouldn't be able to buy all his tickets for upcoming films at once. He specifically wonders aloud if "Star Wars 30" will cost $6 a ticket. While the price of tickets has long since gone past that price mark, he wasn't so far off with his prediction of the total number of films, considering that Creator/{{Disney}} made it clear that there were intent on releasing ''Star Wars'' films and spinoffs annually for the foreseeable future.

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** One segment of ''Great White North'' had the brothers talking about ''Franchise/StarWars'', and Bob lamented that he wouldn't be able to buy all his tickets for upcoming films at once. He specifically wonders aloud if "Star Wars 30" will cost $6 a ticket. While the price of tickets has long since gone past that price mark, he wasn't so far off with his prediction of the total number of films, considering that Creator/{{Disney}} made it clear that there were they are intent on releasing ''Star Wars'' films and spinoffs annually for the foreseeable future.
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** One segment of ''Great White North'' had the brothers talking about ''Franchise/StarWars'', and Bob lamented that he wouldn't be able to buy all his tickets for upcoming films at once. He specifically wonders aloud if "Star Wars 30" will cost $6 a ticket. While the price of tickets has long since gone past that price mark, he wasn't so far off with his prediction of the total number of films, considering that Creator/{{Disney}} made it clear that there were intent on releasing ''Star Wars'' films and spinoffs annually for the foreseeable future.
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** CCCP1 broadcast a game show called ''Uposcrabblenyk'', apparently based of the [[TabletopGame/{{Scrabble}} board game]]. That episode was one of the ones broadcast on NBC- which, three years later, would debut an ''actual'' ''Scrabble'' [[Series/{{Scrabble}} game show]].

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** A mild one, but Bob and Doug exchanging Christmas presents with each other in "Christmas Staff Party". And later in the same episode, [[spoiler:Johnny [=LaRue=] receiving a crane shot from Santa Claus]].
** From the same episode, the entire cast singing "White Christmas" together.

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** A mild one, but Bob and Doug exchanging Christmas presents with each other in "Christmas Staff Party". And later in the same episode, [[spoiler:Johnny [=LaRue=] receiving a crane shot from Santa Claus]].
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* DudeNotFunny: The season 1 episode "Ethnic Humor" is incredibly racist towards Roma people and very hard to watch. Even Harold Ramis delivering an out-of-character apology before it begins is ruined by how he explains that he's of Polish descent and knows how much racist jokes can hurt... and then immediately becomes the butt of a "dumb Pole" joke by having John Candy and Dave Thomas physically pick up a TV and turn it because he can't figure out how to turn the power knob.
** Lin Ye Tang and Swami Banananda are racist caricatures of Asian people played by decidedly non-Asian actors. The latter becomes slightly less cringe-worthy when you learn that the Swami's real name is Dennis Peterson (meaning that he's probably ''supposed'' to be a clueless white guy playing a racial stereotype), but Lin Ye Tang never really gets this treatment. Ditto a Japanese caricature that appears early in "Polynesiantown," though this one does at least get crushed by a giant Godzilla-esque monster.
* EarWorm: Where to start? How about the intro, especially seasons 2-4.

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The season 1 episode "Ethnic Humor" is incredibly racist towards Roma people and very hard to watch. Even Harold Ramis delivering an out-of-character apology before it begins is ruined by how he explains that he's of Polish descent and knows how much racist jokes can hurt... and then immediately becomes the butt of a "dumb Pole" joke by having John Candy and Dave Thomas physically pick up a TV and turn it because he can't figure out how to turn the power knob.
** Lin Ye Tang and Swami Banananda are racist caricatures of Asian people played by decidedly non-Asian actors. The latter becomes slightly less cringe-worthy when you learn that the Swami's real name is Dennis Peterson (meaning that he's probably ''supposed'' to be a clueless white guy playing a racial stereotype), but Lin Ye Tang never really gets this treatment. Ditto a Japanese caricature that appears early in "Polynesiantown," though this one does at least get crushed by a giant Godzilla-esque monster.
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** Another meta example- the cast generally has nothing but nice things to say about each other (many of them worked on each others' shows after SCTV) and the crew, especially costume designer Juul Haalmeyer, makeup artist Bev Schechtman, and hair stylist Judy Cooper-Sealy (all of whom also worked on shows with them after SCTV).* HilariousInHindsight: In their TV-themed parody of ''TheGodfather'' they mercilessly satirize cable TV via the cheesy Ugazzo Home Vision network. After ''SCTV'' was canceled by NBC it ended up moving to Cinemax for its final season.
** Another point with Ugazzo Home Vision is that it's portrayed as having third-rate programming that no American could possibly be interested in. But the demo reel includes clips of a UsefulNotes/{{Bollywood}} movie and a [[UsefulNotes/AssociationFootball soccer]] match. Both of those have gained followings in America in recent years, making Ugazzo look like he might have actually been ahead of the curve.

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** Another meta example- the cast generally has nothing but nice things to say about each other (many of them worked on each others' shows after SCTV) and the crew, especially costume designer Juul Haalmeyer, makeup artist Bev Schechtman, and hair stylist Judy Cooper-Sealy (all of whom also worked on shows with them after SCTV).SCTV).
* HilariousInHindsight: HilariousInHindsight:
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In their TV-themed parody of ''TheGodfather'' ''Film/TheGodfather'' they mercilessly satirize cable TV via the cheesy Ugazzo Home Vision network. After ''SCTV'' was canceled by NBC it ended up moving to Cinemax for its final season.
** Another point with Ugazzo Home Vision is that it's portrayed as having third-rate programming that no American could possibly be interested in. But the demo reel includes clips of a UsefulNotes/{{Bollywood}} movie and a [[UsefulNotes/AssociationFootball soccer]] soccer match. Both of those have gained followings in America in recent years, making Ugazzo look like he might have actually been ahead of the curve.

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* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: A mild one, but Bob and Doug exchanging Christmas presents with each other in "Christmas Staff Party". And later in the same episode, [[spoiler:Johnny [=LaRue=] receiving a crane shot from Santa Claus]].
** From the same episode, the entire cast singing "White Christmas" together.
** In the next Christmas episode, the characters are genuinely worried about Johnny [=LaRue=], since he's gone missing.
** Anytime Floyd Robertson demonstrates anything that isn't utter contempt for Earl Camembert. In one news sketch, Earl suffers a coughing fit on the air and Floyd repeatedly tries to get him to drink some water while seeming concerned. It's not a big gesture, but it is an affectionate one, and it's really sweet considering how much these two usually bicker.
*** In a meta sense, a filmed live stage show in the 1990s featured Levy and Flaherty redoing the first ever news sketch, complete with rabid reindeer and "He's living with a girl he's not even married to!" bit. The crowd goes ''wild'' upon hearing the names Floyd Robertson and Earl Camembert, and after the sketch ends, the camera cuts to Levy and Flaherty making their way backstage excitedly talking about how they slayed it and congratulating each other. Consider that the two of them have been HeterosexualLifePartners since ''SCTV'' and it gets even cuter!
** Another meta example- the cast generally has nothing but nice things to say about each other (many of them worked on each others' shows after SCTV) and the crew, especially costume designer Juul Haalmeyer, makeup artist Bev Schechtman, and hair stylist Judy Cooper-Sealy (all of whom also worked on shows with them after SCTV).



%% * FunnyAneurysmMoment: In the 1977 mock PSA "So You're Dead, Now What?", Creator/HaroldRamis is shown listing signs that you may be dead. It really stops being funny in light of Ramis' actual death in February 2014.
* HarsherInHindsight: One sketch of "The Johnny [=LaRue=] Show" has Johnny doing "exercise" by opening and closing the fridge and jogging in place while sitting down, and at one point, he has a mild heart attack. This sketch is far less funny considering what happens to Creator/JohnCandy in 1994.
* HilariousInHindsight: In their TV-themed parody of ''TheGodfather'' they mercilessly satirize cable TV via the cheesy Ugazzo Home Vision network. After ''SCTV'' was canceled by NBC it ended up moving to Cinemax for its final season.

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%% * FunnyAneurysmMoment: In the 1977 mock PSA "So You're Dead, Now What?", Creator/HaroldRamis is shown listing signs that you may be dead. It really stops being funny in light of Ramis' actual death in February 2014.
* HarsherInHindsight:
One sketch of "The Johnny [=LaRue=] Show" has Johnny doing "exercise" by opening and closing the fridge and jogging in place while sitting down, and at one point, he has a mild heart attack. This sketch is far less funny considering what happens to Creator/JohnCandy Creator/JohnCandy's real life fatal heart attack in 1994.
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** A mild one, but Bob and Doug exchanging Christmas presents with each other in "Christmas Staff Party". And later in the same episode, [[spoiler:Johnny [=LaRue=] receiving a crane shot from Santa Claus]].
** From the same episode, the entire cast singing "White Christmas" together.
** In the next Christmas episode, the characters are genuinely worried about Johnny [=LaRue=], since he's gone missing.
** Anytime Floyd Robertson demonstrates anything that isn't utter contempt for Earl Camembert. In one news sketch, Earl suffers a coughing fit on the air and Floyd repeatedly tries to get him to drink some water while seeming concerned. It's not a big gesture, but it is an affectionate one, and it's really sweet considering how much these two usually bicker.
*** In a meta sense, a filmed live stage show in the 1990s featured Levy and Flaherty redoing the first ever news sketch, complete with rabid reindeer and "He's living with a girl he's not even married to!" bit. The crowd goes ''wild'' upon hearing the names Floyd Robertson and Earl Camembert, and after the sketch ends, the camera cuts to Levy and Flaherty making their way backstage excitedly talking about how they slayed it and congratulating each other. Consider that the two of them have been HeterosexualLifePartners since ''SCTV'' and it gets even cuter!
** Another meta example- the cast generally has nothing but nice things to say about each other (many of them worked on each others' shows after SCTV) and the crew, especially costume designer Juul Haalmeyer, makeup artist Bev Schechtman, and hair stylist Judy Cooper-Sealy (all of whom also worked on shows with them after SCTV).
* HilariousInHindsight: In their TV-themed parody of ''TheGodfather'' they mercilessly satirize cable TV via the cheesy Ugazzo Home Vision network. After ''SCTV'' was canceled by NBC it ended up moving to Cinemax for its final season.
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** Another point with Ugazzo Home Vision is that it's portrayed as having third-rate programming that no American could possibly be interested in. But the demo reel includes clips of a UsefulNotes/{{Bollywood}} movie and a [[TheBeautifulGame soccer]] match. Both of those have gained followings in America in recent years, making Ugazzo look like he might have actually been ahead of the curve.

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** Another point with Ugazzo Home Vision is that it's portrayed as having third-rate programming that no American could possibly be interested in. But the demo reel includes clips of a UsefulNotes/{{Bollywood}} movie and a [[TheBeautifulGame [[UsefulNotes/AssociationFootball soccer]] match. Both of those have gained followings in America in recent years, making Ugazzo look like he might have actually been ahead of the curve.
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: In the 1977 mock PSA "So You're Dead, Now What?", Creator/HaroldRamis is shown listing signs that you may be dead. It really stops being funny in light of Ramis' actual death in February 2014.

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%% * FunnyAneurysmMoment: In the 1977 mock PSA "So You're Dead, Now What?", Creator/HaroldRamis is shown listing signs that you may be dead. It really stops being funny in light of Ramis' actual death in February 2014.
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* HoYay: Pick any Levy/Flaherty character duo. Sammy Maudlin and Bobby Bittman are probably the most easily read as a couple.
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** Another meta example- the cast generally has nothing but nice things to say about each other (many of them worked on each others' shows after SCTV) and the crew, especially costume designer Juul Haalmeyer, makeup artist Bev Schechtman, and hair stylist Judy Cooper-Sealy (who also worked on shows with them after SCTV).

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** Another meta example- the cast generally has nothing but nice things to say about each other (many of them worked on each others' shows after SCTV) and the crew, especially costume designer Juul Haalmeyer, makeup artist Bev Schechtman, and hair stylist Judy Cooper-Sealy (who (all of whom also worked on shows with them after SCTV).
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** Another meta example- the cast generally has nothing but nice things to say about each other (many of them worked on each others' shows after SCTV) and the crew, especially costume designer Juul Haalmeyer, makeup artist Bev Schechtman, and hair stylist Judy Cooper-Sealy (who also worked on shows with them after SCTV).

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* DudeNotFunny: The season 1 episode "Ethnic Humor" is incredibly racist and hard to watch. Even Harold Ramis delivering an out-of-character apology before it begins is ruined by how he explains that he's of Polish Jewish descent and knows how much racist jokes can hurt... and then immediately becomes the butt of a "dumb Pole" joke by having John Candy and Dave Thomas physically pick up a TV and turn it because he can't figure out how to turn the power knob.

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* DudeNotFunny: The season 1 episode "Ethnic Humor" is incredibly racist towards Roma people and very hard to watch. Even Harold Ramis delivering an out-of-character apology before it begins is ruined by how he explains that he's of Polish Jewish descent and knows how much racist jokes can hurt... and then immediately becomes the butt of a "dumb Pole" joke by having John Candy and Dave Thomas physically pick up a TV and turn it because he can't figure out how to turn the power knob.knob.
** Lin Ye Tang and Swami Banananda are racist caricatures of Asian people played by decidedly non-Asian actors. The latter becomes slightly less cringe-worthy when you learn that the Swami's real name is Dennis Peterson (meaning that he's probably ''supposed'' to be a clueless white guy playing a racial stereotype), but Lin Ye Tang never really gets this treatment. Ditto a Japanese caricature that appears early in "Polynesiantown," though this one does at least get crushed by a giant Godzilla-esque monster.



** The entire "The Great White North Palace" wraparound. Long story short: [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Guy Caballero]] takes advantage of [[EnsembleDarkhorse Bob and Doug]]'s popularity. It backfires on him, the [=McKenzies=], and SCTV. [[spoiler: Bob and Doug lose their jobs at the end.]] [[note]]only for a short while. They get their show back.[[/note]]

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** The entire "The Great White North Palace" wraparound. Long story short: [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Guy Caballero]] takes advantage of [[EnsembleDarkhorse Bob and Doug]]'s popularity. It backfires on him, the [=McKenzies=], and SCTV. [[spoiler: Bob and Doug lose their jobs at the end.]] [[note]]only for a short while. They get their show back.[[/note]] [[/note]]
** The last full episode of ''The Sammy Maudlin Show'', wherein Sammy attempts to remake himself to be better in touch with the 1980s. He brings in four annoying gimmicky comedians, called the Zanies (including one who was meant to be a parody of Howie Mandel, played by Martin Short), attempts a dancing intro that requires dexterity and athleticism that leaves him needing to take oxygen hits for a while, and the show ends with Sammy's set literally crashing down around his ears as he gives a speech about how he never wants to see another Maudlin Zany again in his life and should never have tried to makeover his show. Arguably made worse by the lack of William B. Williams (who was fired) and Bobby Bittman (though probably only because Eugene Levy, who played Bittman, was appearing as Henry Kissinger), who were omnipresent on the Maudlin Show for years.
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*** Arguably even worse when you realize that for all of the hell Floyd put him through, Earl still sat valiantly by Floyd's side for eight years. Earl and Floyd are introduced in the very first episode, and almost every episode since featured an appearance from one or both of them, and the last we see of them is them arguing and Floyd reminding Earl that yes, he still hates him, and Earl with his feelings clearly hurt. Again. Poor Earl.
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** The entire "The Great White North Palace" wraparound. Long story short: [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Guy Caballero]] takes advantage of [[EnsembleDarkhorse Bob and Doug]]'s popularity. It backfires on him, the [=McKenzies=], and SCTV. [Spoilers: Bob and Doug lose their jobs at the end.] [[note]]only for a short while. They get their show back.[[/note]]

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** The entire "The Great White North Palace" wraparound. Long story short: [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Guy Caballero]] takes advantage of [[EnsembleDarkhorse Bob and Doug]]'s popularity. It backfires on him, the [=McKenzies=], and SCTV. [Spoilers: [[spoiler: Bob and Doug lose their jobs at the end.] ]] [[note]]only for a short while. They get their show back.[[/note]]
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** The entire "The Great White North Palace" wraparound. Long story short: [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Guy Caballero]] takes advantage of [[EnsembleDarkhorse Bob and Doug]]'s popularity. It backfires on him, the [=McKenzies=], and SCTV. [Spoilers: Bob and Doug lose their jobs at the end.] [[note]]only for a short while. They get their show back.[[/note]]

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* TearJerker: The very last SCTV News segment ever aired kind of qualifies. Earl's last day on the news coincides with the last day of a sound engineer for Count Floyd's show. Guess who Floyd decided to say goodbye to. (Bonus points for Earl's epic TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to Floyd being met with Floyd essentially telling Earl to go to hell and leaving for the remainder of the sound guy's party. Earl delivers one last defeated "And that's the news," removes his mic, and storms off set. That's the last we see of the news team.)

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* TearJerker: Clay Collins' storyline in "[[SoapWithinAShow The Days of the Week]]" is surprisingly serious to the point of bringing a tear to your eye. The short version is that Clay has a terminal disease and wants to marry Sue Ellen within two weeks, only to learn that he has until Saturday to live.
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The very last SCTV News segment ever aired kind of qualifies. Earl's last day on the news coincides with the last day of a sound engineer for Count Floyd's show. Guess who Floyd decided to say goodbye to. (Bonus points for Earl's epic TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to Floyd being met with Floyd essentially telling Earl to go to hell and leaving for the remainder of the sound guy's party. Earl delivers one last defeated "And that's the news," removes his mic, and storms off set. That's the last we see of the news team.)

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** Anytime Floyd Robertson demonstrates anything that isn't utter contempt for Earl Camembert. In one news sketch, Earl has a coughing fit and Floyd repeatedly offers him a glass of water while looking concerned. It's not much, but it's still kinda sweet.

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** Anytime Floyd Robertson demonstrates anything that isn't utter contempt for Earl Camembert. In one news sketch, Earl has suffers a coughing fit on the air and Floyd repeatedly offers tries to get him a glass of to drink some water while looking seeming concerned. It's not much, a big gesture, but it is an affectionate one, and it's still kinda sweet.really sweet considering how much these two usually bicker.
*** In a meta sense, a filmed live stage show in the 1990s featured Levy and Flaherty redoing the first ever news sketch, complete with rabid reindeer and "He's living with a girl he's not even married to!" bit. The crowd goes ''wild'' upon hearing the names Floyd Robertson and Earl Camembert, and after the sketch ends, the camera cuts to Levy and Flaherty making their way backstage excitedly talking about how they slayed it and congratulating each other. Consider that the two of them have been HeterosexualLifePartners since ''SCTV'' and it gets even cuter!
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* TearJerker: The very last SCTV News segment ever aired kind of qualifies. Earl's last day on the news coincides with the last day of a sound engineer for Count Floyd's show. Guess who Floyd decided to say goodbye to. (Bonus points for Earl's epic TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to Floyd being met with Floyd essentially telling Earl to go to hell and leaving for the remainder of the sound guy's party. Earl delivers one last defeated "And that's the news," removes his mic, and storms off set. That's the last we see of the news team.)
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* DudeNotFunny: The season 1 episode "Ethnic Humor" is incredibly racist and hard to watch. Even Harold Ramis delivering an out-of-character apology before it begins is ruined by how he explains that he's of Polish Jewish descent and knows how much racist jokes can hurt... and then immediately becomes the butt of a "dumb Pole" joke by having John Candy and Dave Thomas physically pick up a TV and turn it because he can't figure out how to turn the power knob.

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** In the next Christmas episode, the characters are genuinely worried about Johnny [=LaRue=], since he's gone missing.

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** In the next Christmas episode, the characters are genuinely worried about Johnny [=LaRue=], since he's gone missing. missing.
** Anytime Floyd Robertson demonstrates anything that isn't utter contempt for Earl Camembert. In one news sketch, Earl has a coughing fit and Floyd repeatedly offers him a glass of water while looking concerned. It's not much, but it's still kinda sweet.
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** Points to Moe Green, who may be a "sleazy weasel" but is still picked on mercilessly and is eventually kidnapped by Leutonians and [[PutOnABus never seen again]]. Ditto Earl Camembert, who isn't as sleazy as Moe but ''is'' in probably one of the most abusive professional relationships ever and [[StupidGood has his heart in the right place despite possessing an extraordinarily thick skull]].

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