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** "This Little Red Riding Hood's got a basket full of kickass." That is some bad writing right there.

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** "This Little Red Riding Hood's got a basket full of kickass." That is some bad writing right there.
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* DudeNotFunny: Man people found the [[spoiler: ending involving 9/11 to be borderline offensive.]]

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* DudeNotFunny: {{Glurge}}: Man people found the [[spoiler: ending involving 9/11 to be borderline offensive.]]
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** There aren't even that many remixes--the game is content to just four total remixes, and one of those is a flashback of an event we've already seen in a previous remix! A stronger focus on these might have explored Nilin's memory hunter status. For that matter, stealing memories is as easy as having Nilin get close enough to suck a little static out of their heads; we never get any flashbacks or whatever to [i]see[/i] the memories for ourselves. (The "Remembranes" where we see a ghost of the person re-enacting walking down a hallway just isn't the same…)

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** There aren't even that many remixes--the game is content to just four total remixes, and one of those is a flashback of an event we've already seen in a previous remix! A stronger focus on these might have explored Nilin's memory hunter status. For that matter, stealing memories is as easy as having Nilin get close enough to suck a little static out of their heads; we never get any flashbacks or whatever to [i]see[/i] ''see'' the memories for ourselves. (The "Remembranes" where we see a ghost of the person re-enacting walking down a hallway just isn't the same…)

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Oh, I see all the people who were complaining about it on the main page moved here. 1. Edge is dead, so I don\'t think that counts as being a Karma Houdini. 2. If an Idiot Plot has a proper response, it doesn\'t belong. 3. An Esoteric Happy Ending is one written to be a happy ending, but isn\'t due to a bunch of extra factors. While certainly a positive one for Nilin, the game does not sugar coat the fact that the city is wrecked and there are some rather large changes on the horizon. That makes it not that trope.


* EsotericHappyEnding: [[spoiler: Nilin looks on, prepared to help her rich, affluent, influential, emotionally stable and happy parents guide a world thrown into chaos by the sudden return of the painful memories they once sought to erase. Except her mother is about to get her memory of hating Nilin back, which started this whole mess in the first place.]]



* IdiotPlot: One the one hand, Nilin didn't really have a choice but to listen to Edge at the beginning of the game. On the other hand, he ''did'' blow up a dam and then justify it through the logic of PayEvilUntoEvil, something she didn't buy. So, this raises the question of why she didn't leave just then.
** Because the desire to get her memories back continued to drive her to the only thing she knew how to do and go with the only person who would help her without immediately throwing her in jail to strip what little memories she had. It was an act of self-preservation.
* KarmaHoudini: To varying degrees, [[spoiler: Nilin, Edge and the Cartier-Wells]], depending on what exactly happens after the events of the game.

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* IdiotPlot: One the one hand, Nilin didn't really have a choice but to listen to Edge at the beginning of the game. On the other hand, he ''did'' blow up a dam and then justify it through the logic of PayEvilUntoEvil, something she didn't buy. So, this raises the question of why she didn't leave just then.
** Because the desire to get her memories back continued to drive her to the only thing she knew how to do and go with the only person who would help her without immediately throwing her in jail to strip what little memories she had. It was an act of self-preservation.
* KarmaHoudini: To varying degrees, [[spoiler: Nilin, Edge Nilin and the Cartier-Wells]], depending on what exactly happens after the events of the game.



** [[spoiler: Edge in its role as MissionControl is equally at fault for Nilin's actions as well as his own like flooding Neo-Paris, yet its long-term plot goes through without a hitch.]]
** [[spoiler: The Cartier-Wells have parts of their memories scrambled into more or less traumatic events, but come through the game intact - though it seems probable that Memorize will go under.]]

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** [[spoiler: Edge in its role as MissionControl is equally at fault for Nilin's actions as well as his own like flooding Neo-Paris, yet its long-term plot goes through without a hitch.]]
** [[spoiler: The Cartier-Wells have parts of their memories scrambled into more or less traumatic events, but come through the game intact - though it seems probable that Memorize will go under. Their own relationship and their relationship to Nilin seem improved from the start of the game, with the new realizations from their remixed memories.]]



** Likewise remixing memories is very questionable and poses all sorts of moral dilemmas (since it basically violates the target's free will) yet short of a little angsting from Nilin the ethical implications and dreadful consequences for the victims aren't explored. Remixes are just used to advance the plot and have only positive effects for Nilin, and we don't see the traumatic effects of forced personality changes on the victims.

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** Likewise Likewise, remixing memories is very questionable and poses all sorts of moral dilemmas (since it basically violates the target's free will) yet short of a little angsting from Nilin the ethical implications this is not fully explored (Nilin does, but no one else, and dreadful consequences for the victims aren't explored. she doesn't bring it up again after). Remixes are just used to advance the plot and have only positive effects for Nilin, and we don't see the traumatic effects of forced personality changes on the victims.victims or natural disconnects that the changed memories would have with later ones.
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* ThatOneBoss: The Mourner Leapers. They teleport away when you get near them and summon hordes of aggressive Prowler and Reconverted Leapers. While you fight those to build up the charge for your [[StandardStatusEffects stun attack]], they teleport behind you and take a whack at you, disrupting your combos even when you isolate a Leaper. Then, when you stun them and finally have a chance at hitting them, you'll notice that the Reconverted Leapers are still immune against the stuns so you now have to evade those while pummelling the Mourners that are too tall for jumping over them. All in all, there is almost no action in this combat that isn't made more difficult by an enemy reaction.
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* KarmaHoudini: To varying degrees, [[Nilin, Edge and the Cartier-Wells]], depending on what exactly happens after the events of the game.

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* KarmaHoudini: To varying degrees, [[Nilin, [[spoiler: Nilin, Edge and the Cartier-Wells]], depending on what exactly happens after the events of the game.

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* KarmaHoudini: [[spoiler: Nilin.]] When all's said and done, she completely avoids the consequences of her wrongdoings, in part because the story doesn't acknowledge them as being wrong in the first place, and is pretty thoroughly rewarded for it, both in terms of power and her vastly-improved personal life.

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* KarmaHoudini: To varying degrees, [[Nilin, Edge and the Cartier-Wells]], depending on what exactly happens after the events of the game.
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[[spoiler: Nilin.]] When all's said and done, Nilin's actions in the game have directly or by proxy caused several hundred deaths in addition to her original crime of manipulating Frank into commiting suicide. While she completely avoids the consequences of is obviously uneasy about her wrongdoings, in part because the story involvement, actual punishment doesn't acknowledge them seem to be in sight.]]
** [[spoiler: Edge in its role
as being wrong in MissionControl is equally at fault for Nilin's actions as well as his own like flooding Neo-Paris, yet its long-term plot goes through without a hitch.]]
** [[spoiler: The Cartier-Wells have parts of their memories scrambled into more or less traumatic events, but come through
the first place, and is pretty thoroughly rewarded for it, both in terms of power and her vastly-improved personal life.game intact - though it seems probable that Memorize will go under.]]
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* DudeNotFunny: Man people found the [[spoiler: ending involving 9/11 to be borderline offensive.]]
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* TearJerker: You have to make [[spoiler:Nilin's father]]believe that he [[spoiler: killed his own daughter during an attempt to wipe away the trauma of a car accident. You can just see the despair Charles is feeling as his daughter lays dead on the street of the memory he tried to change as well as in his own memory of experimenting on his daughter.]]

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* TearJerker: You have to make [[spoiler:Nilin's father]]believe father]] believe that he [[spoiler: killed his own daughter during an attempt to wipe away the trauma of a car accident. You can just see the despair Charles is feeling as his daughter lays dead on the street of the memory he tried to change as well as in his own memory of experimenting on his daughter.]]
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* TheWoobie: Dear God Caroline. Her oldest brother committed suicide, her parents are divorced, her father is barely around, she's bullied at school and doesn't\ appear to have any friends. Then let's not get started on the ending.

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* TheWoobie: Dear God Caroline. Her oldest brother committed suicide, her parents are divorced, her father is barely around, she's bullied at school and doesn't\ doesn't appear to have any friends. Then let's not get started on the ending.
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** Allie too considering her mother was murdered '''in front of her''' when she was eleven years old and her father is borderline abusive in some cases.[[/folder]

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** Allie too considering her mother was murdered '''in front of her''' when she was eleven years old and her father is borderline abusive in some cases.cases.
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** There aren't even that many remixes--the game is content to just four total remixes, and one of those is a flashback of an event we've already seen in a previous remix! A stronger focus on these might have explored Nilin's memory hunter status. For that matter, stealing memories is as easy as having Nilin get close enough to suck a little static out of their heads; we never get any flashbacks or whatever to [i]see[/i] the memories for ourselves. (The "Remembranes" where we see a ghost of the person re-enacting walking down a hallway just isn't the same…)[[/folder]]

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** There aren't even that many remixes--the game is content to just four total remixes, and one of those is a flashback of an event we've already seen in a previous remix! A stronger focus on these might have explored Nilin's memory hunter status. For that matter, stealing memories is as easy as having Nilin get close enough to suck a little static out of their heads; we never get any flashbacks or whatever to [i]see[/i] the memories for ourselves. (The "Remembranes" where we see a ghost of the person re-enacting walking down a hallway just isn't the same…)[[/folder]]same…)
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** Allie too considering her mother was murdered '''in front of her''' when she was eleven years old and her father is borderline abusive in some cases.

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** Allie too considering her mother was murdered '''in front of her''' when she was eleven years old and her father is borderline abusive in some cases.

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** There aren't even that many remixes--the game is content to just four total remixes, and one of those is a flashback of an event we've already seen in a previous remix! A stronger focus on these might have explored Nilin's memory hunter status. For that matter, stealing memories is as easy as having Nilin get close enough to suck a little static out of their heads; we never get any flashbacks or whatever to [i]see[/i] the memories for ourselves. (The "Remembranes" where we see a ghost of the person re-enacting walking down a hallway just isn't the same…)

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** There aren't even that many remixes--the game is content to just four total remixes, and one of those is a flashback of an event we've already seen in a previous remix! A stronger focus on these might have explored Nilin's memory hunter status. For that matter, stealing memories is as easy as having Nilin get close enough to suck a little static out of their heads; we never get any flashbacks or whatever to [i]see[/i] the memories for ourselves. (The "Remembranes" where we see a ghost of the person re-enacting walking down a hallway just isn't the same…)same…)[[/folder]]
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** There aren't even that many remixes--the game is content to just four total remixes, and one of those is a flashback of an event we've already seen in a previous remix! A stronger focus on these might have explored Nilin's memory hunter status. For that matter, stealing memories is as easy as having Nilin get close enough to suck a little static out of their heads; we never get any flashbacks or whatever to [i]see[/i] the memories for ourselves. (The "Remembranes" where we see a ghost of the person re-enacting walking down a hallway just isn't the same…)
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* Tearjerker: You have to make [[spoiler:Nilin's father]]believe that he [[spoiler: killed his own daughter during an attempt to wipe away the trauma of a car accident. You can just see the despair Charles is feeling as his daughter lays dead on the street of the memory he tried to change as well as in his own memory of experimenting on his daughter.]]

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* Tearjerker: TearJerker: You have to make [[spoiler:Nilin's father]]believe that he [[spoiler: killed his own daughter during an attempt to wipe away the trauma of a car accident. You can just see the despair Charles is feeling as his daughter lays dead on the street of the memory he tried to change as well as in his own memory of experimenting on his daughter.]]
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Tearjerker: You have to make [[spoiler:Nilin's father]]believe that he [[spoiler: killed his own daughter during an attempt to wipe away the trauma of a car accident. You can just see the despair Charles is feeling as his daughter lays dead on the street of the memory he tried to change as well as in his own memory of experimenting on his daughter.]]

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Tearjerker: *Tearjerker: You have to make [[spoiler:Nilin's father]]believe that he [[spoiler: killed his own daughter during an attempt to wipe away the trauma of a car accident. You can just see the despair Charles is feeling as his daughter lays dead on the street of the memory he tried to change as well as in his own memory of experimenting on his daughter.]]
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Tearjerker: You have to make [[spoiler:Nilin's father]]believe that he [[spoiler: killed his own daughter during an attempt to wipe away the trauma of a car accident. You can just see the despair Charles is feeling as his daughter lays dead on the street of the memory he tried to change as well as in his own memory of experimenting on his daughter.]]
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*** The entire Red Riding Hood sequence is full of it. None of it makes any sense and only serves the purpose of looking silly.
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* DesignatedHero: [[spoiler: Nilin is our hero, which is why she edits the memories of others to regain her own memory, and helps a terrorist cell cause a flood in a major city that kills and injures hundreds - a fact which causes her to question her motives and actions on several occasions after that. That's not to say that she's any worse than any of the other characters, who range from cartoonishly evil to merely bitter, amoral, and wealthy.]]

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* DesignatedHero: [[spoiler: Nilin is our hero, which is why she edits the memories of others to regain her own memory, and helps a terrorist cell cause a flood in a major city that kills and injures hundreds - a fact which causes her to question her motives and actions on several occasions after that.that, but not enough to actually change how she behaves. That's not to say that she's any worse than any of the other characters, who range from cartoonishly evil to merely bitter, amoral, and wealthy.]]
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* KarmaHoudini: [[spoiler: Nilin.]] When all's said and done, she completely avoids the consequences of her wrongdoings, in part because the story doesn't acknowledge them as being wrong in the first place, and is pretty thoroughly rewarded for it, both in terms of power and her vastly-improved personal life.

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yes because she\'s totally doing this just for funsies and not to literally remember who she is.


* DesignatedHero: [[spoiler: Nilin is our hero, which is why she edits the memories of others for her own benefit, and helps a terrorist cell- pardon, ''errorist'' cell- cause a flood in a major city that kills and injures hundreds. That's not to say that she's any worse than any of the other characters, who range from cartoonishly evil to merely bitter, amoral, and wealthy, and even she notes the moral ambiguity of what she's doing.]]

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* DesignatedHero: [[spoiler: Nilin is our hero, which is why she edits the memories of others for to regain her own benefit, memory, and helps a terrorist cell- pardon, ''errorist'' cell- cell cause a flood in a major city that kills and injures hundreds. hundreds - a fact which causes her to question her motives and actions on several occasions after that. That's not to say that she's any worse than any of the other characters, who range from cartoonishly evil to merely bitter, amoral, and wealthy, and even she notes the moral ambiguity of what she's doing.wealthy.]]



** Because her mind was probably altered. Oh, wait, hold on... not only does Nilin know that the mind can be altered, it's her job to do so.

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** Because the desire to get her mind was probably altered. Oh, wait, hold on... not memories back continued to drive her to the only does Nilin know that the mind can be altered, it's her job thing she knew how to do so.and go with the only person who would help her without immediately throwing her in jail to strip what little memories she had. It was an act of self-preservation.



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Fridge Horror


* FridgeHorror: Allie's mother was murdered in an '''empty subway at night'''. How long did she have to wait alone for the police to get there?
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* EsotericHappyEnding: [[spoiler: Nilin looks on, prepared to help her rich, affluent, influential, emotionally stable and happy parents guide a world thrown into chaos by the sudden return of the painful memories they once sought to erase. Except her mother is about to get her memory of hating Nilin back, which started this whole mess in the first place.]]
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** "This Little Red Riding Hood's got a basket full of kickass." That is some bad writing right there.

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Natter.


*** We don't see the traumatic consequences? The second remix target killed himself because he came to believe he shot his wife.
*** That's the only example though, and it's not really dwelt on. You don't see people having to live with the fact that their memories have been altered, questioning whether anything in their past life is real or if those and their current opinions were pushed on them.

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*** We don't see the traumatic consequences? The second remix target killed himself because he came to believe he shot his wife.
*** That's the only example though, and it's not really dwelt on. You don't see people having to live with the fact that their memories have been altered, questioning whether anything in their past life is real or if those and their current opinions were pushed on them.
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*** That's the only example though, and it's not really dwelt on. You don't see people having to live with the fact that their memories have been altered, questioning whether anything in their past life is real or if those and their current opinions were pushed on them.

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