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* UnfortunateImplications: The reason this languished in DevelopmentHell for so long was the fact that [[ExecutiveMeddling Execs]] didn't think that a movie with non-mainstream black actors as main characters (the more well known had supporting roles in the movie) would be successful. Considering that the premise of the movie was basically about people doubting a black squadron would be successful, [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything this can come off uncomfortably...]]
** However in terms of box off.. it didn't (it was a 10 million short of its 48 million budget).
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Damn dude, hide your anger better.


* HateDumb: While there are legitimate criticisms on the shortcomings of the film, some negative comments are thinly veiled "Lucas Sucks!" eye-rolling or accusations of "ripping off" HBO's ''Tuskegee Airmen''.
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Non-YMMV tropes in a YMMV page. Jeez. Also, the cliche storm trope is invoked


* ClicheStorm: Purposely invoked since the movie is supposed to be reminiscent of old patriotic war movies of the [=40s=].
** "[[CaptainObvious They're giving up glory]] [[{{Anvilicious}} to save our butts!]]"



** DyingMomentOfAwesome: [[spoiler: Lightning barreling towards Pretty Boy, never letting go of the trigger despite getting shot multiple times with autocannon rounds.]]
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** However in terms of box off.. it didn't (it was a 10 million short of its 48 million budget).
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** DyingMomentOfAwesome: [[spoiler: Lightning barreling towards Pretty Boy, never letting go of the trigger despite getting shot at least twice with autocannon rounds.]]

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** DyingMomentOfAwesome: [[spoiler: Lightning barreling towards Pretty Boy, never letting go of the trigger despite getting shot at least twice multiple times with autocannon rounds.]]
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** DyingMomentOfAwesome: [[spoiler: Lightning barreling towards Pretty Boy, never letting go of the trigger despite getting shot atleast twice with light autocannon rounds.]]

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** DyingMomentOfAwesome: [[spoiler: Lightning barreling towards Pretty Boy, never letting go of the trigger despite getting shot atleast at least twice with light autocannon rounds.]]
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Misuse of Missed Moment Of Awesome. The trope was renamed to Offscreen Moment Of Awesome because people kept thinking it meant \"something that didn\'t happen but you think would have been cool\" instead of \"something awesome that happened offscreen\"


* MissedMomentOfAwesome: For whatever reason, there is no moment in the movie where the racist white pilots use the squadron's nickname of "Red Tails" as metaphor for their being "like baboons," and the Red Tails squad gets to quantify their name or tell them off with an epic speech.
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* MissedMomentOfAwesome: For whatever reason, there is no moment in the movie where the racist white pilots use the squadron's nickname of "Red Tails" as metaphor for their being "like baboons," and the Red Tails squad gets to quantify their name or tell them off with an epic speech.

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And The Fandom Rejoiced is now Sugar Wiki and not to be wicked in that way.


* AndTheFandomRejoiced: [[TheBoondocks Aaron McGruder]] co-writing the final script, [[TheWire Anthony Hemingway]] directing, and the fact that they're trying to make the movie as historically accurate as possible.
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* HateDumb: While there are legitimate criticisms on the shortcomings of the film, some negative comments are thinly veiled "Lucas Sucks!" eye-rolling or accusations of "ripping off" HBO's ''Tuskegee Airmen''.
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Stylistic Suck is not YMMV.


* StylisticSuck: Possibly just this troper's imagination, but the minor white characters' performances sometimes come off as flat and artificial. Might be deliberate, either to keep the audience's focus squarely on the black characters, or to simulate how, to the Red Tailers, their Caucasian fellow-soldiers really ''would'' seem a bit stiff, due to W.A.S.P. uptightness and/or discomfort about serving with Negroes.
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* MemeticMutation: Take that Mistah Hitler!
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* UnfortunateImplications: The reason this languished in DevelopmentHell for so long was the fact that [[ExecutiveMeddling Execs]] didn't think that a movie with non-mainstream black actors as main characters (the more well known had supporting roles in the movie) would be successful. Considering that the premise of the movie was basically about people doubting a black squadron would be successful, [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything you gotta wonder...]]

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* UnfortunateImplications: The reason this languished in DevelopmentHell for so long was the fact that [[ExecutiveMeddling Execs]] didn't think that a movie with non-mainstream black actors as main characters (the more well known had supporting roles in the movie) would be successful. Considering that the premise of the movie was basically about people doubting a black squadron would be successful, [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything you gotta wonder...this can come off uncomfortably...]]
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Also, that was the full reason given. Not just that that they were black but that the execs were supposedly leery about supporting a film where the more mainstream black actors did not have top billing, and thus would not sell. Also, it\'s called unfortunate implications for a reason—meaning that it MAY come off as something unfortunate, but may not necessarily be. No need to get your heckles up over it if you don\'t agree and then plug in a \"blame the creator speil\" (YMMV does not mean you whine about people you don\'t like).


* UnfortunateImplications: The reason this languished in DevelopmentHell for so long was the fact that [[ExecutiveMeddling Execs]] didn't think that a movie with black main characters would be successful. Considering that the premise of the movie was basically about people doubting a black squadron would be successful, [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything you gotta wonder...]]

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* UnfortunateImplications: The reason this languished in DevelopmentHell for so long was the fact that [[ExecutiveMeddling Execs]] didn't think that a movie with non-mainstream black actors as main characters (the more well known had supporting roles in the movie) would be successful. Considering that the premise of the movie was basically about people doubting a black squadron would be successful, [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything you gotta wonder...]]
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Sounds more like another blame Lucas theory than an alternate possibility. And he was hardly the only one who said that that was the reason.


** It also doesn't really hold up to logic considering that it's a ''remake'' of a much older film, and, y'know... WillSmith, WesleySnipes, CubaGoodingJunior, and many other black actors who most studios would kill to have headlining their films. It seems far more likely there was a different reason for its languishing (possibly that World War II movies went out of style for awhile and only began to make a resurgence in the last decade or so), and people simply couldn't comprehend any other idea than [[MisBlamed evil racist studio suits]]. Well, that and George Lucas pushing the idea... unfortunately, George has a long history of [[LyingCreator embellishing]] the tales of his projects' creations as he sees fit.
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** It also doesn't really hold up to logic considering that it's a ''remake'' of a much older film, and, y'know... WillSmith, WesleySnipes, CubaGoodingJunior, and many other black actors who most studios would kill to have headlining their films. It seems far more likely there was a different reason for its languishing (possibly that World War II movies went out of style for awhile and only began to make a resurgence in the last decade or so), and people simply couldn't comprehend any other idea than [[MisBlamed evil racist studio suits]].

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** It also doesn't really hold up to logic considering that it's a ''remake'' of a much older film, and, y'know... WillSmith, WesleySnipes, CubaGoodingJunior, and many other black actors who most studios would kill to have headlining their films. It seems far more likely there was a different reason for its languishing (possibly that World War II movies went out of style for awhile and only began to make a resurgence in the last decade or so), and people simply couldn't comprehend any other idea than [[MisBlamed evil racist studio suits]]. Well, that and George Lucas pushing the idea... unfortunately, George has a long history of [[LyingCreator embellishing]] the tales of his projects' creations as he sees fit.
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** It also doesn't really hold up to logic considering that it's a ''remake'' of a much older film, and, y'know... WillSmith, WesleySnipes, CubaGoodingJunior, and many other black actors who most studios would kill to have headlining their films. It seems far more likely there was a different reason for its languishing (possibly that World War II movies went out of style for awhile and only began to make a resurgence in the last decade or so), and people simply couldn't comprehend any other idea than [[MisBlamed evil racist studio suits]].
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** "[[CaptainObvious They're giving up glory]] [[{{Anvilicious}} to save our butts!]]"
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* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: While it doesn't have as huge a budget as most blockbusters, it being a pet project of GeorgeLucas, who also ponied up much of the cash to get it produced, it looks to have ILM's full force behind it regarding the battle sequences.

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* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: While it doesn't have as huge a budget as most blockbusters, it being a pet project of GeorgeLucas, who also ponied up much of the cash to get it produced, it looks to have ILM's full force behind it regarding the battle sequences.sequences, though some of it looks a bit too polished.
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* MinorityShowGhetto: According to Lucas, why this film was not picked up by any major studio.
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** DyingMomentOfAwesome: [[spoiler: Lightning barreling towards Pretty Boy, never letting go of the trigger despite getting shot atleast twice with heavy-caliber machine gun rounds.]]

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** DyingMomentOfAwesome: [[spoiler: Lightning barreling towards Pretty Boy, never letting go of the trigger despite getting shot atleast twice with heavy-caliber machine gun light autocannon rounds.]]
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** ... And it turns out they were right (Hasn't made its 60 million budget back.)
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** ... And it turns out they were right (Hasn't made its 60 million budget back.)
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* ClicheStorm: Purposely invoked since the movie is supposed to be reminiscent of old patriotic war movies of the [=40s=].
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* UnfortunateImplications: The reason this languished in DevelopmentHell for so long was the fact that [[ExecutiveMeddling Execs]] didn't think that a movie with black main characters would be successful. Considering that the premise of the movie was basically about people doubting a black squadron would be successful, [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything you gotta wonder...]]
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* StylisticSuck: Possibly just this troper's imagination, but the minor white characters' performances sometimes come off as flat and artificial. Might be deliberate, either to keep the audience's focus squarely on the black characters, or to simulate how, to the Red Tailers, their Caucasian fellow-soldiers really ''would'' seem a bit stiff, culturally and/or due to their discomfort about serving with Negroes.

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* StylisticSuck: Possibly just this troper's imagination, but the minor white characters' performances sometimes come off as flat and artificial. Might be deliberate, either to keep the audience's focus squarely on the black characters, or to simulate how, to the Red Tailers, their Caucasian fellow-soldiers really ''would'' seem a bit stiff, culturally due to W.A.S.P. uptightness and/or due to their discomfort about serving with Negroes.
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* StylisticSuck: Possibly just this troper's imagination, but the minor white characters' performances sometimes come off as flat and artificial. Might be deliberate, either to keep the audience's focus squarely on the black characters, or to simulate how, to the Red Tailers, their Caucasian fellow-soldiers really ''would'' seem a bit stiff, culturally and/or due to their discomfort about serving with Negroes.
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** DyingMomentOfAwesome: [[spoiler: Lightning barreling towards Pretty Boy, never letting go of the trigger despite getting shot atleast twice with heavy-caliber machine gun rounds.]]
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: As noted in the poster, the producers obviously think the Red Tailers shooting down jet fighters with propeller planes definitely qualifies.

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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: As noted in the poster, the producers obviously think the Red Tailers shooting down jet fighters with propeller planes definitely qualifies.qualifies.
* TooCoolToLive: [[spoiler: Lightning]]
* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: While it doesn't have as huge a budget as most blockbusters, it being a pet project of GeorgeLucas, who also ponied up much of the cash to get it produced, it looks to have ILM's full force behind it regarding the battle sequences.

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AndTheFandomRejoiced: [[TheBoondocks Aaron McGruder]] co-writing the final script, [[TheWire Anthony Hemingway]] directing, and the fact that they're trying to make the movie as historically accurate as possible.

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* AndTheFandomRejoiced: [[TheBoondocks Aaron McGruder]] co-writing the final script, [[TheWire Anthony Hemingway]] directing, and the fact that they're trying to make the movie as historically accurate as possible.possible.
* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: As noted in the poster, the producers obviously think the Red Tailers shooting down jet fighters with propeller planes definitely qualifies.

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