History YMMV / RavagesOfTime

* WildMassGuessing: A lot, .

* WildMassGuessing: The Eighth Genius's identity, oh boy. It's likely the most commonly asked question in the fandom to date.

* MaryTzu: Almost everyone. Especially Sima Yi, and Jia Xu who so far never lost any battle. Yuan Feng also have a lot of this during early part in Battle of Guandu.

* BrokenBase: Regarding the protagonist Sima Yi, fandom opinions are divided: they either love him for being such an awesome MagnificentBastard of a [[TheChessmaster Chessmaster]], or finds it absolutely annoying that he plays a pivotal role in many major arcs to the point of being a DeusExMachina.

* EstrogenBrigadeBait: Uh.. the entire main cast?

* EstrogenBrigadeBait: Um... the entire main cast?

** Specifically, Sun Ce in the novel Bofu. Before things go downhill for the Sun clan, Sun Ce has constantly felt outshone by his little brother [YoungestChildWins Sun Quan]] who is the apple of the clan's eyes due to his prodigious smarts, while he himself had had a reputation of being a goofy, lazy person and therefore [[TheUnfavorite generally more useless older brother]]. The fact that Sun Quan [[StrongFamilyResemblance grows to resemble their father]], while his bland looks is less indicative of their relationship than even that of the unrelated, but hunky and intimidating-looking Ling Cao is also a particularly sore spot to Sun Ce (during an encounter with Dong army, a halberd he'd thrown was even mistaken to be Ling Cao's, although he stood just nearby). To not help the matter a bit, Sun Jian is kind of a strict father, who finds it easier to open his heart to his younger son and daughter but not [[WellDoneSonGuy his eldest son]]. [[FreudianExcuse Before long, he cracks under the pressure and disappointment and puts up an aloof, carefree facade to cope with his self-esteem issues]]. As a result, his mighty talents and cunnings as a warrior go under the radar, which lower the clansmen's expectation even more. And when his father finally shows a bit of approval for him, guess what? [[DespairEventHorizon He's killed in the very next battle, leaving Sun Ce completely broken]].

** Specifically, Sun Ce in the novel Bofu. Before things go downhill for the Sun clan, Sun Ce has constantly felt outshone by his little brother Sun Quan, [[YoungestChildWins who is the apple of the clan's eyes due to his prodigious smarts]], while he himself has had a reputation of being [[BrilliantButLazy a goofy, lazy person]] and therefore [[TheUnfavorite generally more useless older brother]]. The fact that Sun Quan [[StrongFamilyResemblance grows to resemble their father]], while his bland looks is less indicative of their relationship than even that of the unrelated, but hunky and intimidating-looking Ling Cao is also a particularly sore spot to Sun Ce (during an encounter with Dong army, a halberd he'd thrown is even mistaken to be Ling Cao's, although he stood just nearby). To not help the matter a bit, Sun Jian is kind of a strict father, who finds it easier to open his heart to his younger son and daughter but not [[WellDoneSonGuy his eldest son]]. [[FreudianExcuse Before long, he cracked under the pressure and disappointment and put up an aloof, carefree facade to cope with his self-esteem issues]]. As a result, [[HiddenBadass his mighty talents and cunnings as a warrior went under the radar]], which lowered the clansmen's expectation even more. And when his father finally shows a bit of approval for him, guess what? [[DespairEventHorizon He's killed in the very next battle, leaving Sun Ce completely broken]].

* TheWoobie: [[JerkassWoobie Yuan Fang]] and [[StepfordSmiler Sun Ce]]. Specifically, Sun Ce in the novel Bofu.

* HilariousInHindsight: In volume 3, when Dong Zhuo's puzzle was presented, until Sima Yi and the Seventh Genius solved it, the entire bunch of Guandong advisors spent a whole evening trying to decipher it but couldn't. In frustration, even Guo Tu (Yuan Shao's famous personal advisor) stomped out, declaring that the puzzle was unsolvable and urging everyone to not look into it any further, lest it be a trap of Dong Zhuo. Know what, dude was right! Of course it was not unsolvable, but indeed it was [[spoiler:a trap to lure Yuan Shao to Luoyang.]]

* TheWoobie: Yuan Fang, anyone ?

* HilariousInHindsight: In volume 3, when Dong Zhuo's puzzle was presented, until Sima Yi and the Seventh Genius solved it, the entire bunch of Guandong advisors spent a whole evening trying to decipher it but couldn't. In frustration, even Guo Tu (Yuan Shao's famous personal advisor) stomped out, declaring that the puzzle was unsolvable and urging everyone to not look into it any further, lest it be a trap of Dong Zhuo. Of course it was not unsolvable, but indeed it was [[spoiler:a trap to lure Yuan Shao to Luoyang.]]

** Compared to the book and history, several characters get this treatment, mostly the tacticians that work on the same side as the Genius(obviously to show of the skill of the Geniuses). [[DethroningMomentOfSuck Cheng Yu, one of Cao Cao's most brutally effective tacticians literally fall to his knees to worship Guo Jia.]] Cheng Yu were more accomplished than any of the militarily inclined Geniuses.

* TheScrappy: Yang Qing [[spoiler:aka Yang Xiu]]. Many fans are not happy when such a seemingly trivial character [[spoiler:turns out to be a big shot who pretty much brings about the ruins of Yuan clan with his assassination of Yuan Fang and manipulating Yuan Shao to death]]. His SmugSnake attitude doesn't help his case a bit.

** Yuan Fang. [[spoiler: He's Yuan Shao's.]]

** Yuan Fang. [[spoiler: He's Yuan Shao's.]]
* NeverLiveItDown: Sima Yi's shady methods [[spoiler: prior to joining Cao Cao]] and opportunistic nature makes it hard for people like Guo Jia to trust him. Given [[DragonWithAnAgenda who he is]], they are completely right.

** Compared to the book and history, several characters get this treatment, mostly the tacticians that work on the same side as the Genius(obviously to show of the skill of the Geniuses). [[DethroningMomentOfSuck: Cheng Yu, one of Cao Cao's most brutally effective tacticians literally fall to his knees to worship Guo Jia. ]] Cheng Yu were more accomplished than any of the militarily inclined Geniuses.

* NeverLiveItDown: Sima Yi's shady methods [[spoiler: prior to joining Cao Cao]] and opportunistic nature makes it hard for people like Guo Jia to trust him. Given [[DragonWithAnAgenda who he is]], those who do are completely right.

** Compared to the book and history, several characters get this treatment, mostly the tacticians that work on the same side as the Genius(obviously to show of the skill of the Geniuses). [[ DethroningMomentOfSuck Cheng Yu, one of Cao Cao's most brutally effective tacticians literally fall to his knees to worship Guo Jia. ]] Cheng Yu were more accomplished than any of the militarily inclined Geniuses.

** Sun Ce. [[spoiler: He dug up the grave of a loyal subordinate, and blamed it on the enemy, to incite his army to fight at their best]]