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* NarmCharm: That line from Ashitaka, whether in Japanese or English is awesome! And many find the one about the Forest Spirit making the flowers grow to be legitimately touching.

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* HolyShitQuotient: Seeing the Nightwalker for the first time is sure to draw this from some people. [[spoiler: Even more so during its final rampage after being beheaded, where it dwarfs ''all of Iron Town''.]]


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* ShockingMoments: Seeing the Nightwalker for the first time is sure to shock some people. [[spoiler: Even more so during its final rampage after being beheaded, where it dwarfs ''all of Iron Town''.]]
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* {{Anvilicious}}: [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped In a graceful, powerful, heartfelt way]].

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Tropes Are Not Bad is about writing examples negatively, as if it's "bad" for a trope to be present. It is not about it being "good" that a trope is present or a trope being "done well."


* VanillaProtagonist: Proof that Administrivia/TropesAreNotBad, the Blog/UnshavedMouse cited the fact that Ashitaka is so moral, selfless, compassionate, unprejudiced and brave still works in the story - especially up against the other wildly grey figures in the movie. And it doesn't stop him being a badass.

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* VanillaProtagonist: Proof that Administrivia/TropesAreNotBad, the The Blog/UnshavedMouse cited the fact that Ashitaka is so moral, selfless, compassionate, unprejudiced and brave still works in the story - especially up against the other wildly grey figures in the movie. And it doesn't stop him being a badass.
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* SpiritualAdaptation: [[WebVideo/TheNostalgiaChick Lindsey Ellis]], a professed fan of the movie and whose first video review was of ''WesternAnimation/{{Pocahontas}}'', once said that this movie was the movie Disney wanted to make but didn't have the delicacy to do properly.

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* SpiritualAdaptation: [[WebVideo/TheNostalgiaChick Lindsey Ellis]], a professed fan of the movie and whose first video review SpiritualAdaptation: It was of once said that ''WesternAnimation/{{Pocahontas}}'', once said that this movie was the movie Disney wanted to make but didn't have the delicacy to do properly.
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** The antagonists, Jigo and Lady Eboshi, are quite divisive. Some enjoy them due to their likable traits (Jigo being [[AffablyEvil genuinely friendly]] towards Ashitaka and Eboshi taking care of the lepers), others are frustrated by them being {{Karma Houdini}}s who get away scot-free despite their atrocious actions. Eboshi does [[spoiler: get her arm bitten off by Moro]] but it's up in the air whether that's enough.
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* SpiritualAdaptation: [[WebVideo/TheNostalgiaChick Lindsey Ellis]], a professed fan of the movie and whose first video review was of ''Disney/{{Pocahontas}}'', once said that this movie was the movie Disney wanted to make but didn't have the delicacy to do properly.

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* SpiritualAdaptation: [[WebVideo/TheNostalgiaChick Lindsey Ellis]], a professed fan of the movie and whose first video review was of ''Disney/{{Pocahontas}}'', ''WesternAnimation/{{Pocahontas}}'', once said that this movie was the movie Disney wanted to make but didn't have the delicacy to do properly.
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* VanillaProtagonist: Proof that TropesAreNotBad, the Blog/UnshavedMouse cited the fact that Ashitaka is so moral, selfless, compassionate, unprejudiced and brave still works in the story - especially up against the other wildly grey figures in the movie. And it doesn't stop him being a badass.

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* VanillaProtagonist: Proof that TropesAreNotBad, Administrivia/TropesAreNotBad, the Blog/UnshavedMouse cited the fact that Ashitaka is so moral, selfless, compassionate, unprejudiced and brave still works in the story - especially up against the other wildly grey figures in the movie. And it doesn't stop him being a badass.
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He didn't hate the film, he just didn't like it to the same extent as other people.


* HePannedItNowHeSucks: Let’s just say that fans were ''not pelased'' when [[WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic Doug Walker]] spoke negatively about the film in one of his Disneycember videos, [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement and leave it at that]].
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*HePannedItNowHeSucks: Let’s just say that fans were ''not pelased'' when [[WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic Doug Walker]] spoke negatively about the film in one of his Disneycember videos, [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement and leave it at that]].
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Doesn't count unless the fanbase dislikes the character.


* CreatorsPet: San, aka. Princess Mononoke proved very popular with the creative staff, to the point that the Studio changed the film's original title "The Legend of Ashitaka," and renamed it after her.
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* CreatorsPet: San, aka. Princess Mononoke proved very popular with the creative staff, to the point that the Studio changed the film's original title "The Legend of Ashitaka," and renamed it after her.


* CounterpartComparison: When one looks at Jigo, they tend to see a greedy, ruthless weasel of a man who, despite being [[AffablyEvil oddly charming]] and genuinely fond of the young male protagonist, [[{{Chessmaster}} carefully orchestrates the various elements and factions to his benefit]] and in the end [[KarmaHoudini gets off scott-free]]. Are we talking about a Sengoku-era Japanese monk or a [[Literature/TreasureIsland certain one-legged pirate]]?

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First of all, not YMMV. Secondly, an expy has to be intentional.


* CounterpartComparison: When one looks at Jigo, they tend to see a greedy, ruthless weasel of a man who, despite being [[AffablyEvil oddly charming]] and genuinely fond of the young male protagonist, [[{{Chessmaster}} carefully orchestrates the various elements and factions to his benefit]] and in the end [[KarmaHoudini gets off scott-free]]. Are we talking about a Sengoku-era Japanese monk or a [[Literature/TreasureIsland certain one-legged pirate]]?



* {{Expy}}: Very likely an unintentional example, and yet...When one looks at Jigo, they tend to see a greedy, ruthless weasel of a man who, despite being [[AffablyEvil oddly charming]] and genuinely fond of the young male protagonist, [[{{Chessmaster}} carefully orchestrates the various elements and factions to his benefit]] and in the end [[KarmaHoudini gets off scott-free]]. Are we talking about a Sengoku-era Japanese monk or a [[Literature/TreasureIsland certain one-legged pirate]]?
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* {{Expy}}: Very likely an unintentional example, and yet...When one looks at Jigo, they tend to see a greedy, ruthless weasel of a man who, despite being [[AffablyEvil oddly charming]] and genuinely fond of the young male protagonist, [[{{Chessmaster}} carefully orchestrates the various elements and factions to his benefit]] and in the end [[KarmaHoudini gets off scott-free]]. Are we talking about a Sengoku-era Japanese monk or a [[Literature/TreasureIsland certain one-legged pirate]]?
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*HarsherInHindsight: If one thinks about it, what happens to Moro and her wolves, along with Ashitaka being the last prince of the Emishi is this in the contexts of the real world, as both species of Japanese wolves (Honshu and Hokkaido) were hunted to extinction in 1889 and 1905 and the Emishi have been lost to history.
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* MemeticMutation: "We are here to kill the humans and save the forest."[[labelnote:Explanation]]This line from the boars has become half-jokingly used as a slogan among more radical environmentalists on the internet[[/labelnote]]
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* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: Easily one of Miyazaki's best-looking movies, from the background paintings which do the film's GreenAesop incredible justice to the gracefully fluid character animation, especially on ''multiple'' quadrupedal characters, which are notoriously hard to animate, and the demons which not only have multiple limbs but countless undulating appendages covering their bodies.

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* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome: Easily one of Miyazaki's best-looking movies, from the background paintings which do the film's GreenAesop incredible justice to the gracefully fluid character animation, especially on ''multiple'' quadrupedal characters, which are notoriously hard to animate, and the demons which not only have multiple limbs but countless undulating appendages covering their bodies.
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* MagnificentBitch: Lady Eboshi, the ruler of Irontown is a woman with a [[NervesOfSteel backbone made of steel]]. Forging a mining community with nothing but her own will and strength, Eboshi made it a refuge for lepers, outcasts and the downtrodden, even buying the freedom of many women from brothels and giving them a new home, training them to work and fight. Coming into conflict with the gods of the forest and local warlords, Eboshi leads her people to fend them off and fight back, even luring out the Great Forest Spirit to destroy it, in hopes of reducing the forest animals to just normal beasts, claiming her trick to killing a god is to not fear it. Even after losing an arm to the bite of the decapitated wolf goddess Moro, Eboshi merely grins and reminds herself that a wolf's head still has a bite, being one of the most morally complex and strong-willed antagonists in a Creator/HayaoMiyazaki film.
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** The antagonists, Jigo and Lady Eboshi, are quite divisive. Some enjoy them due to their likable traits (Jigo being [[AffablyEvil genuinely friendly]] towards Ashitaka and Eboshi taking care of the lepers), others are frustrated by them being {{Karma Houdini}}s who get away scot-free despite their atrocious actions.

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** The antagonists, Jigo and Lady Eboshi, are quite divisive. Some enjoy them due to their likable traits (Jigo being [[AffablyEvil genuinely friendly]] towards Ashitaka and Eboshi taking care of the lepers), others are frustrated by them being {{Karma Houdini}}s who get away scot-free despite their atrocious actions. Eboshi does [[spoiler: get her arm bitten off by Moro]] but it's up in the air whether that's enough.

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If the character is in the title, that means they're a major character, and don't qualify.


* EnsembleDarkhorse:
** The Forest Spirit and the kodama, thanks to their very distinctive and memorable designs.
** San is a rare occasion of where the title character is this.

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* BrokenBase:
** Other Ghibli dubs have fallen into this atmosphere, but viewers can't seem to decide if the Miramax/Disney dub is good in its own right or a watered down travesty to the original Japanese. Purists stubbornly declare it's the latter, but there are fans of the English dub.
** Within the English dub, fans are split over Claire Danes as San. Half feels she is too whiny - the Unshaved Mouse saying she felt more like a ValleyGirl throwing a tantrum. The other half felt she brought a refreshing degree of anger and aggression that was absent in the Japanese dub.

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* BrokenBase:
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** Other Ghibli dubs have fallen into this atmosphere, but viewers can't seem to decide if the Miramax/Disney dub is good in its own right or a watered down travesty to the original Japanese. Purists stubbornly declare it's the latter, but there are fans of the English dub.
** Within the English dub, fans
Fans are split over Claire Danes as San.San in the English dub. Half feels she is too whiny - the Unshaved Mouse saying she felt more like a ValleyGirl throwing a tantrum. The other half felt she brought a refreshing degree of anger and aggression that was absent in the Japanese dub.dub.
** The antagonists, Jigo and Lady Eboshi, are quite divisive. Some enjoy them due to their likable traits (Jigo being [[AffablyEvil genuinely friendly]] towards Ashitaka and Eboshi taking care of the lepers), others are frustrated by them being {{Karma Houdini}}s who get away scot-free despite their atrocious actions.
* BrokenBase: Other Ghibli dubs have fallen into this atmosphere, but viewers can't seem to decide if the Miramax/Disney dub is good in its own right or a watered down travesty to the original Japanese. Purists stubbornly declare it's the latter, but there are fans of the English dub.
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* SugarWiki/SuperlativeDubbing: While the English dubbing makes some serious changes in the dialogues, it's really hard to ignore the quality of it by itself, the names in the cast and how, despite altering original lines, it still delivers a great experience. It is by far one of the best dubbings ever done, to the point that even detractors admit the performances are really good. It further stands out when compared with English dubbing done to previous Ghibli's films.

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* BrokenBase: Other Ghibli dubs have fallen into this atmosphere, but viewers can't seem to decide if the Miramax/Disney dub is good in its own right or a watered down travesty to the original Japanese. Purists stubbornly declare it's the latter, but there are fans of the English dub.

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Other Ghibli dubs have fallen into this atmosphere, but viewers can't seem to decide if the Miramax/Disney dub is good in its own right or a watered down travesty to the original Japanese. Purists stubbornly declare it's the latter, but there are fans of the English dub.
** Within the English dub, fans are split over Claire Danes as San. Half feels she is too whiny - the Unshaved Mouse saying she felt more like a ValleyGirl throwing a tantrum. The other half felt she brought a refreshing degree of anger and aggression that was absent in the Japanese dub.



* RetroactiveRecognition: You can hear none other than Creator/TaraStrong voicing Ashitaka's little sister, as well as some additional voices in Iron Town. This was before her StarMakingRole as [[WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls Bubbles]].
** Creator/JohnDiMaggio had already dubbed his lines this [[AccidentalMisnaming "Mizayaki"]] film long before [[WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}} his]] StarMakingRole.

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* RetroactiveRecognition: RetroactiveRecognition:
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You can hear none other than Creator/TaraStrong voicing Ashitaka's little sister, as well as some additional voices in Iron Town. This was before her StarMakingRole as [[WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls Bubbles]].
** Creator/JohnDiMaggio had already dubbed his lines in this [[AccidentalMisnaming "Mizayaki"]] film long before [[WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}} his]] StarMakingRole.StarMakingRole.
** You can also hear Matt [=McKenzie=] supplying some voices, years before his role as Auron in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyX''.



* StoicWoobie: Ashitaka learns that he is cursed both to die and to go mad with hatred in the process - something he only learns in the first ten minutes of the film. Yet he remains the moral presence that charms the others with his purity.



* {{Woolseyism}}: The script for the English dub, adapted by Creator/NeilGaiman no less. He cheerfully admits to freely changing several jokes and other cultural references that would not have been understood (or at least not without lengthy explanations) outside of Japan, while adapting the lines to precisely match the characters' mouth movements. Nonetheless this was all done in a spirit of almost reverent faithfulness to the original.
** That said, a number of detractors insist that his script was a complete butchery of the original.

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* {{Woolseyism}}: {{Woolseyism}}:
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The script for the English dub, adapted by Creator/NeilGaiman no less. He cheerfully admits to freely changing several jokes and other cultural references that would not have been understood (or at least not without lengthy explanations) outside of Japan, while adapting the lines to precisely match the characters' mouth movements. Nonetheless this was all done in a spirit of almost reverent faithfulness to the original.
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original. That said, a number of detractors insist that his script was a complete butchery of the original.



* WTHCastingAgency: A few people felt that Claire Danes was miscast as San in the English dub, feeling her San was too whiny. Others felt that she brought a refreshing degree of anger and aggression that was absent in the Japanese dub.

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* WTHCastingAgency: A few people felt that Claire Danes Billy Bob Thornton as Jigo has been a head-scratching choice for years. He reportedly took the role thinking it was miscast as San in the English dub, feeling her San was too whiny. Others felt that she brought a refreshing degree of anger and aggression that was absent in the Japanese dub.children's film, so his [[SoMyKidsCanWatch own could watch it]].
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* NightmareRetardant: The apes look legitimately creepy when they first appear, due to being shadowy black beings with glowing red eyes. Then they talk in HulkSpeak, which ruins the creep factor for some.
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* SugarWiki/SuperlativeDubbing: While the English dubbing makes some serious changes in the dialogues, it's really hard to ignore the quality of it by itself, the names in the cast and how, despite altering original lines, it still delivers a great experience. It is by far one of the best dubbings ever done, to the point that even detractors admit the performances are really good. It further stands out when compared with English dubbing done to previous Ghibli's films.

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* MoralEventHorizon: Jigo's warriors cross it when they use the normal soldiers of Iron Town as bait to lure the boars up, before [[spoiler: raining bombs down on them once they get in range, killing human and boar alike.]]

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Jigo's warriors cross it when they use the normal soldiers of Iron Town as bait to lure the boars up, before [[spoiler: raining bombs down on them once they get in range, killing human and boar alike.]]]]
** San's biological parents throwing her to Moro just so they could escape themselves. ParentalAbandonment taken to the extreme.
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** Billy Crudup makes numerous lines of Ashitaka into soft whispers each time he threatens someone and adds a hefty dose of TranquilFury to his tone. This ''sharply'' contrasts with flat and normally voiced delivery of Yôji Matsuda for the same parts, even if they say exactly the same things.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: The Forest Spirit and the kodama, thanks to their very distinctive and memorable designs.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: The EnsembleDarkhorse:
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** San is a rare occasion of where the title character is this.
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The whole album, by Music/JoeHisaishi no less, particularly the hauntingly beautiful main theme.

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The whole album, by Music/JoeHisaishi no less, particularly the hauntingly beautiful main theme.theme, "Legend of Ashitaka".

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