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Ash didn't even remember Serena...
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** With hindsight, many now think Ash was referring not to Misty, but Serena.
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** And since she bought it at some random kiosk set up for the festival, it probably wouldn't have worked anyway.
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** With hindsight, many now think Ash was referring not to Misty, but Serena.
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* BrokenBase: The [[{{Woolseyism}} dub-edit]] where Ash mentions a "good friend" (obviously Misty) who left him and who he misses every day when talking to Max. Some (especially Pokéshippers) like it for [[ContinuityNod the continuity it creates]] and find it to be rather [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming sweet]] on Ash's part, while others dislike it for being another example of 4Kids altering the original in an attempt to push Pokéshipping.
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* BrokenBase: The [[{{Woolseyism}} dub-edit]] where Ash mentions a "good friend" (obviously Misty) who left him and who he misses every day when talking to Max. Some (especially Pokéshippers) like it for [[ContinuityNod the continuity it creates]] and find it to be rather [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments sweet]] on Ash's part, while others dislike it for being another example of 4Kids altering the original in an attempt to push Pokéshipping.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: That subplot with May's wishing thing? Yeah, it seems like something important is going to come from that, but then ''she forgets to put in the last piece.'' WhatAnIdiot! In May's defense, though, they reached Farina by the time of the last night, and she got preoccupied with everything that was going on at the time.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: That subplot with May's wishing thing? Yeah, it seems like something important is going to come from that, but then ''she forgets to put in the last piece.'' WhatAnIdiot! In May's defense, though, they reached Farina by the time of the last night, and she got preoccupied with everything that was going on at the time.time.
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** On that note, the final enemy of season 19 (XY and Z) is very similar to the fake Groudon in this movie: [[spoiler: a gigantic implacable imposter of a legendary ground type Pokemon, seeking a shiny source of power.]]
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** On that note, the final enemy of season 19 (XY and Z) the ''[=XY=]'' series is very similar to the fake Groudon in this movie: [[spoiler: a gigantic implacable imposter of a legendary ground type Legendary Ground-type Pokemon, seeking a shiny source of power.]]
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Ash didn't remember Serena when he met with her again in Kalos
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** Ash tells Max about a "good friend" he had and he hopes they're still friends. It seems he's talking about Misty but its more likely Ash was referring to Serena.
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* MagnificentBastard: [[MadScientist Butler]] was on the surface a friendly magician. But unbeknownst to most, Butler was a former Team Magma scientist who vowed revenge after an experiment to create a Groudon failed and resulted in his firing. Working with his girlfriend Diane, Butler found Jirachi hibernating in a crystal and gave it to Max in order to awaken it. Capturing the Pokémon Absol to prevent it from interfering, Butler attempted to use Jirachi's true eye as power source for creating a Groudon. When Ash and friends the group escaped with Jirachi, with the help of Diane and Absol, Butler followed them with a tracking device. Ambushing them, Butler successfully used Jirachi's third eye to create Groudon. When the Groudon came out as a energy stealing monster, Butler came up with the plan to destroy it, hoping to undo all problems that he caused.
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** Ash tells Max about a "good friend" he had and he hopes they're still friends. It seems he's talking about Misty but its more likely Ash was referring to Serena.
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** In May's defense, though, they reached Farina by the time of the last night, and she got preoccupied with everything that was going on at the time.
** In May's defense, though, they reached Farina by the time of the last night, and she got preoccupied with everything that was going on at the time.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: That subplot with May's wishing thing? Yeah, it seems like something important is going to come from that, but then ''she forgets to put in the last piece.'' WhatAnIdiot!
**WhatAnIdiot! In May's defense, though, they reached Farina by the time of the last night, and she got preoccupied with everything that was going on at the time.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: That subplot with May's wishing thing? Yeah, it seems like something important is going to come from that, but then ''she forgets to put in the last piece.'' WhatAnIdiot!WhatAnIdiot!
** In May's defense, though, they reached Farina by the time of the last night, and she got preoccupied with everything that was going on at the time.
** In May's defense, though, they reached Farina by the time of the last night, and she got preoccupied with everything that was going on at the time.
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* BrokenBase: The [[{{Woolseyism}} dub-edit]] where Ash mentions a "good friend" (obviously Misty) who left him and who he misses every day when talking to Max. Some like it for [[ContinuityNod the continuity it creates]] and find it to be rather [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming sweet]] on Ash's part, while others dislike it for being another example of 4Kids altering the original in an attempt to push Pokéshipping.
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* BrokenBase: The [[{{Woolseyism}} dub-edit]] where Ash mentions a "good friend" (obviously Misty) who left him and who he misses every day when talking to Max. Some (especially Pokéshippers) like it for [[ContinuityNod the continuity it creates]] and find it to be rather [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming sweet]] on Ash's part, while others dislike it for being another example of 4Kids altering the original in an attempt to push Pokéshipping.
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* BrokenBase: The [[{{Woolseyism}} dub-edit]] where Ash mentions Misty when talking to Max about a "good friend" who left him and who he misses every day. Some like it for [[ContinuityNod the continuity it creates]] and find it to be rather [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming sweet]] on Ash's part, while others dislike it for being another example of 4Kids altering the original in an attempt to push Pokéshipping.
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* BrokenBase: The [[{{Woolseyism}} dub-edit]] where Ash mentions Misty when talking to Max about a "good friend" (obviously Misty) who left him and who he misses every day.day when talking to Max. Some like it for [[ContinuityNod the continuity it creates]] and find it to be rather [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming sweet]] on Ash's part, while others dislike it for being another example of 4Kids altering the original in an attempt to push Pokéshipping.
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It's obviously meant to be a reference to Misty. Ash explicitly refers to the friend as a "she", and at the time of the movie's release, Misty was the only major character who fit the line's description. Plus, as the example mentioned, 4kids was infamous for slipping in these sorts of hints. It may not be an explicit reference, but the intent is pretty obvious.
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heard the line multiple times, and NOTHING points to Ash referring to Misty but a complete fan speculation
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* EppilepticTrees: Just what ''was'' May wishing for?
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* BrokenBase: The [[{{Woolseyism}} dub-edit]] where Ash mentions Misty when talking to Max about a "good friend" who left him and who he misses every-day.every day. Some like it for [[ContinuityNod the continuity it creates]] and find it to be rather [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming sweet]] on Ash's part, while others dislike it for being another example of 4Kids altering the original in an attempt to push Pokéshipping.
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* BrokenBase: The [[{{Woolseyism}} dub-edit]] where Ash mentions Misty when talking to Max about a "good friend" who left him and who he misses every-day. Some like it for [[ContinuityNod the continuity it creates]] and find it to be rather [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming sweet]] on Ash's part, while others dislike it for being another example of 4Kids altering the original in an attempt to push Pokéshipping.
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* HarsherInHindsight: Jirachi's disappearance is even sadder now that her Japanese VA Tomoko Suzuki is gone.
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** On that note, the final enemy of season 19 (XY and Z) is very similar to the fake Groudon in this movie: [[spoiler: a gigantic implacable imposter of a legendary ground type Pokemon, seeking a shiny source of power./spoiler]]
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** On that note, the final enemy of season 19 (XY and Z) is very similar to the fake Groudon in this movie: [[spoiler: a gigantic implacable imposter of a legendary ground type Pokemon, seeking a shiny source of power./spoiler]]]]
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** On that note, the final enemy of season 19 (XY and Z) is very similar to the fake Groudon in this movie: [[spoiler: a gigantic implacable imposter of a legendary ground type Pokemon, seeking a shiny source of power./spoiler]]
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* NightmareFuel: The pseudo-Groudon and its tentacles are like something out of ''Anime/PrincessMononoke''.
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* NightmareFuel: The pseudo-Groudon and its tentacles. It is enormous, [[WalkingWasteland drains the land dry while killing all plantlife]] ''[[WalkingWasteland just by existing]]'', and its tentacles are like something out of ''Anime/PrincessMononoke''.absorb everything they catch. Everything caught by this monster is visible inside it's stomach, struggling in vain to break free. Fighting against it [[ImplacableMan doesn't seem to do anything other than irritate it]]. No wonder everything runs away when it shows up.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: That subplot with May's wishing thing? Yeah, it seems like something important is going to come from that, but then ''she forgets to put in the last piece.'' WhatAnIdiot!
** I don't think the ''Pokémon'' universe is so cheesy that it would actually make a wishing trinket come true. The real point on that thing was as a clock of sorts, to remind the viewer what night it was. And it worked quite well.
** May can also be forgiven in that she likely forgot about folding the final point of the wishmaker in the midst of the seventh night's events, namely an EldritchAbomination in the form of Groudon sucking up everyone ''Manga/{{Akira}}''-style and [[spoiler:Jirachi returning to its slumber]]. In a series that runs on ThePowerOfFriendship, it'd be more in-character for May to immediately run off to help save Jirachi instead of [[SkewedPriorities first worrying about her wish]]. May even makes a note of not dwelling on her disappointment by stating [[AnAesop people have to work hard to make their own dreams come true]], a notion that Ash agrees with.
** I don't think the ''Pokémon'' universe is so cheesy that it would actually make a wishing trinket come true. The real point on that thing was as a clock of sorts, to remind the viewer what night it was. And it worked quite well.
** May can also be forgiven in that she likely forgot about folding the final point of the wishmaker in the midst of the seventh night's events, namely an EldritchAbomination in the form of Groudon sucking up everyone ''Manga/{{Akira}}''-style and [[spoiler:Jirachi returning to its slumber]]. In a series that runs on ThePowerOfFriendship, it'd be more in-character for May to immediately run off to help save Jirachi instead of [[SkewedPriorities first worrying about her wish]]. May even makes a note of not dwelling on her disappointment by stating [[AnAesop people have to work hard to make their own dreams come true]], a notion that Ash agrees with.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: That subplot with May's wishing thing? Yeah, it seems like something important is going to come from that, but then ''she forgets to put in the last piece.'' WhatAnIdiot!
** I don't think the ''Pokémon'' universe is so cheesy that it would actually make a wishing trinket come true. The real point on that thing was as a clock of sorts, to remind the viewer what night it was. And it worked quite well.
** May can also be forgiven in that she likely forgot about folding the final point of the wishmaker in the midst of the seventh night's events, namely an EldritchAbomination in the form of Groudon sucking up everyone ''Manga/{{Akira}}''-style and [[spoiler:Jirachi returning to its slumber]]. In a series that runs on ThePowerOfFriendship, it'd be more in-character for May to immediately run off to help save Jirachi instead of [[SkewedPriorities first worrying about her wish]]. May even makes a note of not dwelling on her disappointment by stating [[AnAesop people have to work hard to make their own dreams come true]], a notion that Ash agrees with.WhatAnIdiot!
** I don't think the ''Pokémon'' universe is so cheesy that it would actually make a wishing trinket come true. The real point on that thing was as a clock of sorts, to remind the viewer what night it was. And it worked quite well.
** May can also be forgiven in that she likely forgot about folding the final point of the wishmaker in the midst of the seventh night's events, namely an EldritchAbomination in the form of Groudon sucking up everyone ''Manga/{{Akira}}''-style and [[spoiler:Jirachi returning to its slumber]]. In a series that runs on ThePowerOfFriendship, it'd be more in-character for May to immediately run off to help save Jirachi instead of [[SkewedPriorities first worrying about her wish]]. May even makes a note of not dwelling on her disappointment by stating [[AnAesop people have to work hard to make their own dreams come true]], a notion that Ash agrees with.
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* NightmareFuel: The psuedo-Groudon and its tentacles are like something out of Princess Mononoke.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Take a good, long look at the fake Groudon from this movie. Flash forward to 2014 and the [[VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire Gen III]] [[VideoGameRemake remakes]], ''Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire'', introduce Primal Reversion, a transformation for the mascot Legendaries similar in function to [[VideoGame/PokemonXAndY Mega Evolution]]. Three guesses what Primal Groudon greatly resembles.
* NightmareFuel: Thepsuedo-Groudon pseudo-Groudon and its tentacles are like something out of Princess Mononoke.''Anime/PrincessMononoke''.
* NightmareFuel: The
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** I don't think the Pokémon ''Pokémon'' universe is so cheesy that it would actually make a wishing trinket come true. The real point on that thing was as a clock of sorts, to remind the viewer what night it was. And it worked quite well.well.
** May can also be forgiven in that she likely forgot about folding the final point of the wishmaker in the midst of the seventh night's events, namely an EldritchAbomination in the form of Groudon sucking up everyone ''Manga/{{Akira}}''-style and [[spoiler:Jirachi returning to its slumber]]. In a series that runs on ThePowerOfFriendship, it'd be more in-character for May to immediately run off to help save Jirachi instead of [[SkewedPriorities first worrying about her wish]]. May even makes a note of not dwelling on her disappointment by stating [[AnAesop people have to work hard to make their own dreams come true]], a notion that Ash agrees with.
** May can also be forgiven in that she likely forgot about folding the final point of the wishmaker in the midst of the seventh night's events, namely an EldritchAbomination in the form of Groudon sucking up everyone ''Manga/{{Akira}}''-style and [[spoiler:Jirachi returning to its slumber]]. In a series that runs on ThePowerOfFriendship, it'd be more in-character for May to immediately run off to help save Jirachi instead of [[SkewedPriorities first worrying about her wish]]. May even makes a note of not dwelling on her disappointment by stating [[AnAesop people have to work hard to make their own dreams come true]], a notion that Ash agrees with.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: That subplot with May's wishing thing? Yeah, it seems like something important is going to come from that, but then ''she forgets to put in the last piece.'' WhatAnIdiot!
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: That subplot with May's wishing thing? Yeah, it seems like something important is going to come from that, but then ''she forgets to put in the last piece.'' WhatAnIdiot!WhatAnIdiot!
** I don't think the Pokémon universe is so cheesy that it would actually make a wishing trinket come true. The real point on that thing was as a clock of sorts, to remind the viewer what night it was. And it worked quite well.
** I don't think the Pokémon universe is so cheesy that it would actually make a wishing trinket come true. The real point on that thing was as a clock of sorts, to remind the viewer what night it was. And it worked quite well.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: That subplot with May's wishing thing? Yeah, it seems like something important is going to come from that, but then ''she forgets to put in the last piece.'' WhatAnIdiot!
* {{The Scrappy}}: Jirachi was simply disliked by Many fans, due to It's lazy personality.
* {{The Scrappy}}: Jirachi was simply disliked by Many fans, due to It's lazy personality.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: That subplot with May's wishing thing? Yeah, it seems like something important is going to come from that, but then ''she forgets to put in the last piece.'' WhatAnIdiot!
* {{The Scrappy}}: Jirachi was simply disliked by Many fans, due to It's lazy personality.WhatAnIdiot!
* {{The Scrappy}}: Jirachi was simply disliked by Many fans, due to It's lazy personality.
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* FanNickname: The above mentioned fake EldritchAbomination Groudon has been referred to by the fans as "Franken-Groudon" and "Virus Groudon."
** Or you could always go with [[HellfireCommentaries Giant Zombie Groudon]]. Whichever floats your boat.
** Or you could always go with [[HellfireCommentaries Giant Zombie Groudon]]. Whichever floats your boat.
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Jirachi is so boring.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: That subplot with May's wishing thing? Yeah, it seems like something important is going to come from that, but then ''she forgets to put in the last piece.'' WhatAnIdiot!WhatAnIdiot!
* {{The Scrappy}}: Jirachi was simply disliked by Many fans, due to It's lazy personality.
* {{The Scrappy}}: Jirachi was simply disliked by Many fans, due to It's lazy personality.
