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Given how Max is a Base Breaking Character at worst, I doubt this trope applies to him in any form.


* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: A variation regarding Max. He's one of the most unpopular companions of Ash in the show's history, but many fans (including said detractors) look fondly on his portrayal in this film as a very bright spot for his character.
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*** Not even [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Manga/PokemonAdventures]]

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*** Not even Even [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Manga/PokemonAdventures]]php/Manga/PokemonAdventures Pokemon Adventures]] gets this, as when Gulie Hideout/[[spoiler:Archie]] gets ahold of Jirachi, what does he wish for? A giant fake Kyogre.
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*** Not even [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Manga/PokemonAdventures]]
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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: A variation regarding Max. He's one of the most unpopular companions of Ash in the show's history, but many fans (including said detractors) look fondly on his portrayal in this film as a very bright spot for his character.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Butler for being one of the few human movie villains to be fleshed out beyond a generic bad guy, his relationship with Dianne, and pulling a HeelFaceTurn to help stop his creation.
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* FanNickname: The [[EldritchAbomination fake Groudon]] has been referred to by the fans as "Franken-Groudon" and "Virus Groudon." Or you could always go with [[LetsPlay/HellfireCommentaries Giant Zombie Groudon]]. Whichever floats your boat.



* NightmareFuel: The pseudo-Groudon and its tentacles. It is enormous, [[WalkingWasteland drains the land dry while killing all plantlife]] ''[[WalkingWasteland just by existing]]'', and its tentacles absorb everything they catch. Everything caught by this monster is visible inside its stomach, struggling in vain to break free. Fighting against it [[ImplacableMan doesn't seem to do anything other than irritate it]]. No wonder everything runs away when it shows up.

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* NightmareFuel: The pseudo-Groudon and its tentacles. It is enormous, [[WalkingWasteland drains the land dry while killing all plantlife]] ''[[WalkingWasteland just by existing]]'', and its tentacles absorb everything they catch. Everything caught by this monster is visible inside its stomach, struggling in vain to break free. Fighting against it [[ImplacableMan doesn't seem to do anything other than irritate it]]. No wonder everything runs away when it shows up.up.
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** Applying to the English dub, the trailer heavy emphasizes a beast of hard liquid as centre focus, and looks like a corrupted version of a solid red character, it only shows up during the last 10-15 minutes, but causes many plot-altering events in that limited screentime, and [[spoiler:being reduced to a less solid form before perishing]]. Is it the fake Groudon, or is it [[Film/SpiderMan3 Venom]]?
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** It becomes even messier when hindsight allows [[ShippingWars some fans]] to reinterpret it so he was [[{{Retcon}} talking about Serena]] (even though [[ForgottenFirstMeeting he didn't remember her]] until they reunited in ''XY''). Obviously, that line couldn't have been ''written'' with her in mind, since she didn't exist in any form for [[VideoGame/PokemonXAndY another decade]], but if one [[DeathOfTheAuthor really wanted]] to [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation revise it]], they can. Though [[ShippingGoggles outside of shippers]], very few are likely to think so deeply about the exchange.



* NightmareFuel: The pseudo-Groudon and its tentacles. It is enormous, [[WalkingWasteland drains the land dry while killing all plantlife]] ''[[WalkingWasteland just by existing]]'', and its tentacles absorb everything they catch. Everything caught by this monster is visible inside its stomach, struggling in vain to break free. Fighting against it [[ImplacableMan doesn't seem to do anything other than irritate it]]. No wonder everything runs away when it shows up.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: That subplot with May's wishing thing? Yeah, it seems like something important is going to come from that, but then ''she forgets to put in the last piece.'' WhatAnIdiot In May's defense, though, they reached Farina by the time of the last night, and she got preoccupied with everything that was going on at the time.
** And since she bought it at some random kiosk set up for the festival, it probably wouldn't have worked anyway.

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* NightmareFuel: The pseudo-Groudon and its tentacles. It is enormous, [[WalkingWasteland drains the land dry while killing all plantlife]] ''[[WalkingWasteland just by existing]]'', and its tentacles absorb everything they catch. Everything caught by this monster is visible inside its stomach, struggling in vain to break free. Fighting against it [[ImplacableMan doesn't seem to do anything other than irritate it]]. No wonder everything runs away when it shows up.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: That subplot with May's wishing thing? Yeah, it seems like something important is going to come from that, but then ''she forgets to put in the last piece.'' WhatAnIdiot In May's defense, though, they reached Farina by the time of the last night, and she got preoccupied with everything that was going on at the time.
** And since she bought it at some random kiosk set up for the festival, it probably wouldn't have worked anyway.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Take a good, long look at the fake Groudon from this movie. Flash forward to 2014 and the [[VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire Gen III]] [[VideoGameRemake remakes]], ''Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire'', introduce Primal Reversion, a transformation for the mascot Legendaries similar in function to [[VideoGame/PokemonXAndY Mega Evolution]]. Three guesses what Primal Groudon greatly resembles.

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a good, long look at the fake Groudon from this movie. Flash forward to 2014 and the [[VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire Gen III]] [[VideoGameRemake remakes]], ''Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire'', introduce Primal Reversion, a transformation for the mascot Legendaries similar in function to [[VideoGame/PokemonXAndY Mega Evolution]]. Three guesses what Primal Groudon greatly resembles.



** And since she bought it at some random kiosk set up for the festival, it probably wouldn't have worked anyway.
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Actually I think she did get her wish. If you watch the credits the guy who sold it to her gives them a ride in a truck. I think her wish was to not have to walk for a change. XD

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** And since she bought it at some random kiosk set up for the festival, it probably wouldn't have worked anyway.
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Actually I think she did get her wish. If you watch the credits the guy who sold it to her gives them a ride in a truck. I think her wish was to not have to walk for a change. XD
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Actually I think she did get her wish. If you watch the credits the guy who sold it to her gives them a ride in a truck. I think her wish was to not have to walk for a change. XD
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** It becomes even messier when hindsight allows [[ShippingWars some fans]] to reinterpret it so he was talking about Serena. Obviously, that line couldn't have been ''written'' with her in mind, since she didn't exist in any form for [[VideoGame/PokemonXAndY another decade]], but if one really wanted to [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation revise it]], it's not contradicted in-universe. Though [[ShippingGoggles outside of shippers]], few are likely to think so deeply about the exchange.

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** It becomes even messier when hindsight allows [[ShippingWars some fans]] to reinterpret it so he was [[{{Retcon}} talking about Serena. Serena]] (even though [[ForgottenFirstMeeting he didn't remember her]] until they reunited in ''XY''). Obviously, that line couldn't have been ''written'' with her in mind, since she didn't exist in any form for [[VideoGame/PokemonXAndY another decade]], but if one [[DeathOfTheAuthor really wanted wanted]] to [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation revise it]], it's not contradicted in-universe. they can. Though [[ShippingGoggles outside of shippers]], very few are likely to think so deeply about the exchange.
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* BrokenBase: The [[{{Woolseyism}} dub-edit]] where Ash mentions a "good friend" (obviously Misty) who left him and who he misses every day when talking to Max. Some (especially Pokéshippers) like it for [[ContinuityNod the continuity it creates]] and find it to be rather [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments sweet]] on Ash's part, while others dislike it for being another example of 4Kids altering the original in an attempt to push Pokéshipping.
** It becomes even messier when hindsight allows [[ShippingWars some fans]] to reinterpret it so he was talking about Serena. Obviously, that line couldn't have been ''written'' with her in mind, since she didn't exist in any form for [[VideoGame/PokemonXAndY another decade]], but if one really wanted to [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation revise it]], it's not contradicted in-universe. Though [[ShippingGoggles outside of shippers]], few are likely to think so deeply about it.

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* BrokenBase: The [[{{Woolseyism}} dub-edit]] where Ash mentions a "good friend" (obviously Misty) who left him and who he misses every day when talking to Max. Some (especially Pokéshippers) like it for [[ContinuityNod the continuity it creates]] and find it to be rather [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments sweet]] on Ash's part, while others dislike it for being another example of 4Kids altering the original script in an attempt to [[ShipTease push Pokéshipping.
Pokéshipping]].
** It becomes even messier when hindsight allows [[ShippingWars some fans]] to reinterpret it so he was talking about Serena. Obviously, that line couldn't have been ''written'' with her in mind, since she didn't exist in any form for [[VideoGame/PokemonXAndY another decade]], but if one really wanted to [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation revise it]], it's not contradicted in-universe. Though [[ShippingGoggles outside of shippers]], few are likely to think so deeply about it.the exchange.
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** It becomes even messier when hindsight allows one to wonder if he was talking about Serena.

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** It becomes even messier when hindsight allows one [[ShippingWars some fans]] to wonder if reinterpret it so he was talking about Serena.Serena. Obviously, that line couldn't have been ''written'' with her in mind, since she didn't exist in any form for [[VideoGame/PokemonXAndY another decade]], but if one really wanted to [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation revise it]], it's not contradicted in-universe. Though [[ShippingGoggles outside of shippers]], few are likely to think so deeply about it.
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** It becomes even messier when hindsight allows one to wonder if he was talking about Serena.
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* NightmareFuel: The pseudo-Groudon and its tentacles. It is enormous, [[WalkingWasteland drains the land dry while killing all plantlife]] ''[[WalkingWasteland just by existing]]'', and its tentacles absorb everything they catch. Everything caught by this monster is visible inside it's stomach, struggling in vain to break free. Fighting against it [[ImplacableMan doesn't seem to do anything other than irritate it]]. No wonder everything runs away when it shows up.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: That subplot with May's wishing thing? Yeah, it seems like something important is going to come from that, but then ''she forgets to put in the last piece.'' WhatAnIdiot! In May's defense, though, they reached Farina by the time of the last night, and she got preoccupied with everything that was going on at the time.

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* NightmareFuel: The pseudo-Groudon and its tentacles. It is enormous, [[WalkingWasteland drains the land dry while killing all plantlife]] ''[[WalkingWasteland just by existing]]'', and its tentacles absorb everything they catch. Everything caught by this monster is visible inside it's its stomach, struggling in vain to break free. Fighting against it [[ImplacableMan doesn't seem to do anything other than irritate it]]. No wonder everything runs away when it shows up.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: That subplot with May's wishing thing? Yeah, it seems like something important is going to come from that, but then ''she forgets to put in the last piece.'' WhatAnIdiot! WhatAnIdiot In May's defense, though, they reached Farina by the time of the last night, and she got preoccupied with everything that was going on at the time.

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