History YMMV / PokemonConquest

** The game also gave us some pretty good battlefield themes. For example, here's the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHghFvhyQaU Flying]], [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQb47VtvRI0 Fighting]], [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wLN8DgJJ0M Electric]], and [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCNZ_VBqtjw Poison]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNz0n0Nny7s&list=UUcVwJ3A0KLDDJA4948zuu7g&index=11&feature=plcp Psychic]] and [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiFKR0kY-hU&list=UUcVwJ3A0KLDDJA4948zuu7g&index=21&feature=plcp Normal]] battlefield themes.
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRelrfSt5QM&feature=relmfu The second map theme]] is pretty epic as well.
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWX8ihGsYiI The music that plays during the final battle against Nobunaga and his allies]] is pretty epic.

* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: Though it has an "E" rating, the game is about the wars of feudal Japan, the female designs [[{{Stripperiffic}} put to shame]] [[MsFanservice the females of the main series]], and because a lot of the true personalities and relationships of the characters will fly over the heads of anyone now familiar with the history of their real-life counterparts, there's a lot of GettingCrapPastTheRadar, as some of the character in the game were historically well-known for being AxCrazy.

** Oichi could have easily put Nobunaga in his place had this game was released after Gen VI with the inclusion of Fairy-types, of which Jigglypuff became one. And given this game limits everyone's moves to just one... Even better, Eevee ''also'' got a Fairy-type evolution. If this game had been released one generation later, Nobunaga would have been the one at disadvantage.

** Oichi could have easily put Nobunaga in his place had this game was released after Gen VI with the inclusion of Fairy-types, of which Jigglypuff became one. And given this game limits everyone's moves to just one... Even better, Eevee ''also'' got a Fairy-type evolution. If this game had been released one generation later, Nobunaga wouldn't have stood a chance.
*** SubvertedTrope on closer scrutiny; [[https://m.fanfiction.net/s/13449784/2/ the analysis at the bottom of this page]] outlines the various factors that would prevent Oichi's success. As the series often points out, type advantage alone isn't everything.

** Dragon Rage. It deals 40 damage to everything, ignoring all typing, and can hit two targets at once, with the drawback of low accuracy. Not a problem thanks to many Warriors with abilities that give them an accuracy boost for three turns; catch them a Gible, Dratini, Deino or Axew, and they can easily sweep opponents for the first year or so of your story (at which point enemies become strong enough to survive a single hit). Many storylines with smaller world maps to conquer can be finished in a few months if you're lucky enough to get your hands on such Warriors early on.

** The Legendary Pokémon are hard to track down, but they are worth it. As you'd expect, they have high stats, long movement ranges, and powerful attacks which can hit multiple enemies at once. Give them the Guardian Charm, and they will redefine the phrase OneManArmy.

** The conflict between the kids Mitsunari, Kiyomasa and Masanori make more sense when you realize the three of them did not get along in real life and spent most of their time fighting each other. Made worse when Hideyoshi died and their fight escalated and implied that Mitsunari won hence why you play his chapter first (and why he's got a freaking SCIZOR)

** Ina's abilities always allow her to hit her target. In ''VideoGame/SamuraiWarriors'', she's the archer, so of course accuracy is important to her as well as judging the distance between her opponent.

** Many Pokemon have moves that let them dodge your attacks. There's always a variable that must be met for the chance for it to occur to happen, like attacks with claws, or they're attacked while on a particular terrain type. Still, it is intensely annoying for opponents to randomly dodge your attack, regardless of accuracy or power levels.

* GoddamnedBoss: Any Warrior with a Spiritomb. Since Spiritomb (this game being based on Gen V) has no weaknesses, you're bound by the "beat in four turns or without taking damage" rules if you want to recruit them. Hanzo happens to be one such Warrior, so you need to not only beat him according to these rules, but do it using a Warlord of your own. This is even worse if the Spiritomb's ability is Inteference, which steadily lowers your accuracy as you fight it. Even if you have the damage to beat it, you may start struggling to land any of it.

** Oichi could have easily put [[spoiler:her brother]] Nobunaga in his place had this game was released after Gen VI with the inclusion of Fairy-types, of which Jigglypuff became one. And given this game limits everyone's moves to just one... Even better, Eevee ''also'' got a Fairy-type evolution. If this game had been released one generation later, Nobunaga wouldn't have stood a chance.

* MagnificentBastard: [[UsefulNotes/OdaNobunaga Nobunaga]] is the Warlord of the kingdom of Dragnor and a master of Dragon-type Pokemon. Seeing his homeland of Ransei ravaged by wars to unite the seventeen kingdoms and summon [[OlympusMons Arceus]] before the victor, Nobunaga decides to conquer Ransei himself and destroy Arceus [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans so these destructive wars will cease]]. Though the PlayerCharacter pushes back his campaign, Nobunaga feigns defeat so that they will be the conqueror of Ransei instead and summon Arceus in his place; Nobunaga then launches a surprise attack against it with his five lieutenants and an even more powerful partner Pokemon than before. He treats friend and foe alike with respect even as he confidently tells them he will defeat them, and then [[GracefulLoser takes his loss with dignity]] and acknowledges his opponent's power if they prevail. Nobunaga's reputation as the greatest Warlord in all of Ransei is well-earned.

* TheScrappy: Many people don't like Yoshimoto given his appearance, the fact that he's the only historical character to get [[TookALevelInDumbass worse]] instead of better, his story serving no real plot to his character development and being a JokeCharacter when he promotes. In fact, he's the only character that doesn't TookALevelInBadass when he promotes as his special ability causes problems to others and his Forretress can only do 1 damage given that the move is Gyro Ball.

** The Gabite warrior in the post game that shows up once the game thinks you're "too powerful" for the AI. The Gabite warrior goes to one or two random nations and tells them to fight harder drastically increasing the level of the warlords and warriors of that nation by a large amount. It wouldn't be a problem given your strongest team is probably a little lower than theirs but the computer always attacks the nation with a low level in order to get even stronger than you, so unless you have promoted warlords or full evolved Pokémon, whatever warlord got the boost will end up preventing you from completing the episode quickly. Also, for the low level team, pray that the nation they attack is a collect the flag nation given that if the enemy is too strong, you could always hold the line and gain points allowing your stronger army to defeat them.
** Pokémon and Warriors are not registered in the Gallery until you use them in at least one battle. This isn't a big deal for Pokémon, because even if you, say, don't use your new Weavile in battle, the Warrior will have it in every subsequent storyline. Where this ''is'' a big deal is that it does not register Warlord transformations unless you use them in battle post-transformation, so if you go through all the trouble to get a Warlord to Rank 2, then end the storyline without using them, the game will not give you credit for the transformation, and in subsequent storylines they return in their base forms until you have to do it all over again to register them this time.
** Confusion. In main series, it just gives a chance for Pokémon to hit yourself ([[TheComputerIsACheatingBastard which seems to vary]]) but here? It seems that confused Pokémon sometimes will move on its own. If you're cornered (sometimes by damn confusion itself), it can as well do ''nothing'', wasting its move.

** Ina and her Water/Ground-type Quagsire, by most cases. If you don't have a decent Grass type taking down her Quagsire can be a real pain (if you plan on recruiting her and do not have Motonari and his Grass-types, prepare to play around) especially given its not-to-be-sniffed-at Defenses. Also, its Ability reduces Range, and ''her'' Ability means that it won't miss.

** ''You'', the ''player'', in ''any'' Warlord's episode that takes place chronologically after the main story. The hero(ine) is the only Warlord to maintain Rank II while controlled by the AI, which means that they also maintain their Rank II Warrior Skill, Courage. Put that on their unevolved Eeevee, and that's a two-stage Attack boost and a two-square Range boost on a four-square Range Pokémon with ''Celebrate'', which allows you to move ''again'' if you KO a Pokémon. If you don't have any good allies, you can kiss your GameBreaker goodbye.

** Kiyomasa and Masanori's episodes. When you play as Mitsunari, it's very easy because he has a Scizor that can destroy the competition easily. When you play as Kiyomasa though, you can't do that much damage to Mitsunari but can take out Masanori easily, but that means having to wait for a Pokémon with a fire move to defeat Scizor or at least have a warlord with a Pokémon that can resist Bug moves. Made worse with Masanori as he can't do that much damage to Kiyomasa and he can't even harm Mitsunari with his Skorupi and you'll have to wait around until you get a Pokemon that can even hope to harm Scizor. You're pretty much forced to recruit Kiyomasa and Masanori in another Warlord's episode just to get them some better Pokémon or at least grind them up, and even then they only spawn in a few campaigns as rare random encounters. And they say the difficulty of their chapters are one and two?

** Masamune's level is intended to be difficult for those who jump into the level without leveling him or Magoichi up. He starts in Avia surrounded by Warlords that will either recruit quickly or have a type advantage over flying type. Conquering the top portion is difficult (but necessary to avoid the Gabite warrior and other aggressive AIs) because you're dealing with Misuhide (Ice), Ieyasu (Steel), Nobunaga (Dragon but it's mainly because of Ranmaru being a DiscOneNuke for him), No (Ghost and tends to recruit Warlords very quickly), Nene (Poison that can defeat Magoichi very easily), Ujiyasu (Rock) and Kenshin (Psychic but Aya has an ice Pokémon). The worse part is that Masamune can only promote in his chapter so you'll either be stuck with a Rufflet that can be defeated easily, or a Braivary that ends up taking two turns to attack (and can result in the failure of recruiting some Warriors).

** Similarly, Noh needs every Ghost-type registered. Arguably even worse thanks to some ghost types requiring items to evolve. Items that can only be obtained through the merchant that shows up once in a blue moon.

* AntiClimaxBoss: [[spoiler: The Zekrom that Nobunaga uses. You hear its roar on the title screen, it accompanies the BigBad throughout the main campaign, and much is made of the battle leading up to fighting it.]] Ultimately, it's not much more difficult an opponent than any other in the game, and its Warlord even replaces it in a subsequent fight!

** Kiyomasa and Masanori's episodes. When you play as Mitsunari, it's very easy because he has a Scizor that can destroy the competition easily. When you play as Kiyomasa though, you can't do that much damage to Mitsunari but can take out Masanori easily, but that means having to wait for a Pokémon with a fire move to defeat Scizor or at least have a warlord with a Pokémon that can resist Bug moves. Made worse with Masanori as he can't do that much damage to Kiyomasa and he can't even harm Mitsunari with his Skorupi and you'll have to wait around until you get a Pokemon that can even hope to harm Scizor. You're pretty much forced to recruit Kiyomasa and Masanori in another Warlord's episode just to get them some better Pokémon or at least grind them up, and even then they only spawn in a few campaigns as rare random encounters. And they say the difficulty of their chapters is one?

** Yes, Zubat are in this game, but [[AvertedTrope they're not this trope due to only having one (fairly standard) move.]] Surprisingly, the trope is evoked not by Zubat, but by ''Sewaddle'' - specifically because Bug Bite devours ''any'' consumable item in this game, not just Berries. Say goodbye to all those Potions you just bought! You see a lot of them early-game too.

** Oichi could have easily put [[spoiler:her brother]] Nobunaga in his place had this game was released after Gen VI with the inclusion of Fairy-types, of which Jigglypuff became one. And given this game limits everyone's moves to just one...

** The rest of Valora is very hard too. Ieyasu has an Aggron and Tadakatsu has a ''Metagross''. Unless you have Yoshihiro on your army, good luck. Oh, and did we mention that levitating Pokémon (one of which is in the initial battle) can stall ''very'' easily, giving you five or so turns to defeat them. And as an added bonus, [[UnwinnableByDesign good luck if the security camera sends you to an area where you're blocked from all sides!]]

** Kiyomasa and Masanori's episodes. When you play as Mitsunari, it's very easy because he has a Scizor that can destroy the competition easily. When you play as Kiyomasa though, you can't do that much damage to Mitsunari but can take out Masanori easily, but that means having to wait for a Pokémon with a fire move to defeat Scizor or at least have a warlord with a Pokémon that can resist Bug moves. Made worse with Masamori as he can't do that much damage to Kiyomasa and he can't even harm Mitsunari with his Skorupi and you'll have to wait around until you get a Pokemon that can even hope to harm Scizor. You're pretty much forced to recruit Kiyomasa and Masanori in another Warlord's episode just to get them some better Pokémon or at least grind them up, and even then they only spawn in a few campaigns as rare random encounters. And they say the difficulty of their chapters is one?

** As told above under GeniusBonus, there's symbolism in Nobunaga getting [[spoiler:Zekrom]] and Hideyoshi getting [[spoiler:Reshiram]], as the two uniters of Japan. Enter Mitsuhide, the Ice-type specialist who historically betrayed Nobunaga and then was defeated by Hideyoshi. The obvious choice for his Legendary would be [[spoiler:Kyurem]], completing the triad perfectly, but instead he got [[spoiler:Articuno]]. Ieyasu, often grouped with Nobunaga and Hideyoshi as a three uniters, gets [[spoiler:Registeel]] for his Legendary, when he too could have gotten [[spoiler:Kyurem]]. True, it wouldn't fit his Steel-typing, but he could at least have gotten [[spoiler:Dialga]] then, so the three of them all have Dragons.

** If [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pO8px_88HZU Rock]] isn't this, it's [[EarWorm something else entirely]].

* ThatOneBoss: Mitsuhide in the main story. Mostly due to the annoying FrictionlessIce you have to cross, which pretty much works like the Ice Path in ''VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver'' except you can only move once per turn, and it makes getting into range of your attacks really difficult. Flying Pokémon can ignore the ice, but [[WhyDidItHaveToBeSnakes guess what they're weak to, and what every enemy uses...]] Oh, and one of the generic enemy warlords has a Munna with a nasty habit of putting all your Pokémon to sleep. The Munna is also levitating, so it ignores the ice. To top it all off, Mitsuhide himself is no slouch; his Lapras is decently bulky and is equipped with the [[ThatOneAttack Ice Beam]] (an attack that hits everything in a three-square line, has near-perfect accuracy, and is adequately powerful, to boot).

* TearJerker: Hanbei's ending comes off as this along with a FridgeHorror. See the Fridge Section.

*** Technically, evolving registers Pokémon as seen. However, to register it as owned (and have full information on it), you need to use it in battle and then win.

* HoYay: Between Nobunaga and Ranmaru as shown in Ranmaru's episode where Nobunaga doesn't seem to mind the idea of Ranmaru being labeled as a woman and came all the way from his nation just to graduate him on the title. It makes sense given that in real life, they did have a sexual relationship. [[BestialityIsDepraved If this extends to his Lucario too, well...]]

** Does anyone remember Team Rocket's old motto? [[http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6nca7HQFj1qd4i0jo1_1280.png Well...]]

** An old UrbanLegendOfZelda for the main series games is that tapping the A button when throwing a Pokéball could increase the chances of catching the Pokémon successfully. Come this game, the linking process for Warriors getting new partners... consists of a rhythm-like minigame where you strategically tap A until the Pokémon submits to you.

** ''VideoGame/YuGiOhTheDuelistsOfTheRoses'' was another, earlier game that combined historical battles with a popular {{Toyetic}} anime franchise (albeit with [[UsefulNotes/WarsOfTheRoses The Wars of The Roses]], not Feudal Japan).
** The Hero/Heroine starts out keeping to themselves and running their own kingdom, only to go on the path of conquest and shape the history of Ransei after Hideyoshi, the Warlord of Ignis, invades them. In other words, this isn't the first time that [[WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender everything changed when the Fire Nation attacked]].

*** The first castle you conquer, Ignis, is ruled by a warlord specializing in Fire types. ''Ignis'' is Latin for "flame". Many of the other nations have {{Meaningful Name}}s like this too.

* AntiClimaxBoss:
** [[spoiler: The first fight with Nobunaga.]] [[FridgeBrilliance It's probably intentional, though.]]
** [[spoiler: The Zekrom that Nobunaga uses. You hear its roar on the title screen, it accompanies the BigBad throughout the main campaign, and much is made of the battle leading up to fighting it.]] Ultimately, it's not much more difficult an opponent than any other in the game, and its Warlord even replaces it in a subsequent fight!

** Oichi could have easily put [[spoiler:her brother]] Nobunaga in his place had this game was released after Gen VI with the inclusion of Fairy-types. And given this game limits everyone's moves to just one...

** Kiyomasa and Masanori's episodes. When you play as Mitsunari, it's very easy because he has a Scizor that can destroy the competition easily. When you play as Kiyomasa though, you can't do that much damage to Mitsunari but can take out Masanori easily, but that means having to wait for a Pokémon with a fire move to defeat Scizor or at least have a warlord with a Pokémon that can resist Bug moves. Made worse with Masamori as he can't do that much damage to Kiyomasa and he can't even harm Mitsunari with his Skorupi and you'll have to wait around until you get a Pokemon that can even hope to harm Scizor. And they say the difficulty of their chapters is one?

** As told above under GeniusBonus, there's symbolism in Nobunaga getting [[spoiler:Zekrom]] and Hideyoshi getting [[spoiler:Reshiram]], as the two uniters of Japan. Enter Mitsuhide, the Ice-type specialist who historically betrayed Nobunaga and then was defeated by Hideyoshi. The obvious choice for his Legendary would be [[spoiler:Kyruem]], completing the triad perfectly, but instead he got [[spoiler:Articuno]]. Ieyasu, often grouped with Nobunaga and Hideyoshi as a three uniters, gets [[spoiler:Registeel]] for his Legendary, when he too could have gotten [[spoiler:Kyruem]]. True, it wouldn't fit his Steel-typing, but he could at least have gotten [[spoiler:Diagla]] then, so the three of them all have Dragons.

* MagnificentBastard: [[UsefulNotes/OdaNobunaga Nobunaga]] is the Warlord of the kingdom of Dragnor and a master of Dragon-type Pokemon. Seeing his homeland of Ransei ravaged by wars to unite the seventeen kingdoms and summon [[OlympusMons Arceus]] before the victor, Nobunaga decides to conquer Ransei himself and destroy Arceus [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans so these destructive wars will cease]]. Though the PlayerCharacter pushes back his campaign, Nobunaga feigns defeat so that they will be the conqueror of Ransei instead and summon Arceus in his place; Nobunaga then launches a surprise attack against it with his five lieutenants and an even more powerful partner Pokemon than before. He treats enemy and foe alike with respect even as he confidently tells them he will defeat them, and then [[GracefulLoser takes his loss with dignity]] and acknowledges his opponent's power if they prevail. Nobunaga's reputation as the greatest Warlord in all of Ransei is well-earned.

* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot:
** As told above under GeniusBonus, there's symbolism in [[spoiler:Nobunaga getting Zekrom and Hideyoshi getting Reshiram, as the two uniters. However, it also begs the question of why Mitsuhide's Legendary is Articuno, when it would have been much more fitting thematically to give him Kyruem.]]
** In general, there's quite a few missed opportunities for warlords to have received legendaries - for example, given the set-up of his side-story, it would've made perfect sense for Motochika to have [[spoiler: Palkia]] as a second perfect link. It's possible that the reason why they don't give every warlord a legendary is due to the fact that at the time this game was released, there were no poison-type legendaries ([[spoiler: not counting a toxic plate Arceus]]), meaning that Nene would've stood out like a sore thumb.
** If you play your cards right, Shingen and Nobunaga can have [[spoiler: Groudon and Rayquaza]] as their perfect links in addition to their normal perfect links, Rhyperior and Hydreigon. Who honestly expected them to round out this trifecta by having Motochika have [[spoiler: Kyogre]] as his second perfect link? Somewhat justified, however, given that his side-story revolves around recruiting an army to oppose Nobunaga, which would make [[spoiler: Palkia]] more appropriate in terms of type advantage.

** [[spoiler: The first fight with Nobunaga]]. [[FridgeBrilliance It's probably intentional, though.]]

* CrowningMusicOfAwesome:

** If [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pO8px_88HZU Rock]] isn't this, it's [[{{Earworm}} something else entirely]].

*** The first castle you conquer, Ignis, is ruled by a warlord specializing in Fire types. ''Ignis'' is Latin for "flame". Many of the other nations have [[MeaningfulName Meaningful Names]] like this too.
** Mitsuhide's special episode has him betraying Nobunaga, just like he did in real life. Furthermore, his specialty is Ice, which gives him an advantage against Nobunaga's Dragons, but a weakness to Fire-types; in real life, Mitsuhide was defeated by Hideyoshi, who in ''Conquest'' is a Fire-type user. Mitsuhide also has unique dialogue when engaging an enemy army with Nobunaga in it, shouting "Our enemy is in <kingdom>!" in reference to the real-life attack declaration his gave his troops to march on Nobunaga's stronghold.

** ''{{VideoGame/YuGiOh The Duelists Of The Roses}}'' was another, earlier game that combined historical battles with a popular {{Toyetic}} anime franchise (albeit with [[{{UsefulNotes/WarsOfTheRoses}} The Wars of The Roses]], not Feudal Japan).

* TheScrappy: Many people don't like Yoshimoto given his appearance, the fact that he's the only historical character to get [[TookaLevelinDumbass worse]] instead of better, his story serving no real plot to his character development and being a JokeCharacter when he promotes. In fact, he's the only character that doesn't TookALevelInBadass when he promotes as his special ability causes problems to others and his Forretress can only do 1 damage given that the move is Gyro Ball.
* ScrappyLevel: Spectra's arena is widely hated. There are purple flames that move every turn and, if they move onto your Pokemon (Which they will do if they can), inflict a random status condition. Additionally, each turn, the numerous Misdreavus statues slide around, and they have an annoying tendency to park themselves right in front of you or block you off from advancing toward the enemy entirely. As if that wasn't annoying enough, the actual animations for the flames' and statues' "turns" are long, meaning that it's a long, boring time before you can move again. It's not a particularly difficult map, just very tedious and annoying.

* GoddamnedBoss: Any Warrior with a Spiritomb. Since Spiritomb (this game being based on Gen V) has no weaknesses, you're bound by the "beat in four turns or without taking damage" rules if you want to recruit them. Hanzo happens to be one such Warrior, so you need to not only beat him according to these rules, but do it using a Warlord of your own.

** As mentioned above under DemonicSpiders, Dragon Rage. It deals 40 damage to everything, ignoring all typing, and can hit two targets at once, with the drawback of low accuracy. Not a problem thanks to many Warriors with abilities that give them an accuracy boost for three turns; catch them a Gible, Dratini, Deino or Axew, and they can easily sweep opponents for the first year or so of your story (at which point enemies become strong enough to survive a single hit). Many storylines with smaller world maps to conquer can be finished in a few months if you're lucky enough to get your hands on such Warriors early on.

** At the end of Okuni's story, she disappears and is never heard from again. This is based on her her real life counterpart disappearing without a trace and no one knows what happened to her after that which leaves to speculation on how her life ended.

** ''{{VideoGame/YuGiOhTheDuelistsOfTheRoses}}'' was another, earlier game that combined historical battles with a popular {{Toyetic}} anime franchise (albeit with [[{{UsefulNotes/WarsOfTheRoses}} The Wars of The Roses]], not Feudal Japan).

** ''{{VideoGame/YuGiOh Duelists Of The Roses}}'' was another, earlier game that combined historical battles with a popular {{Toyetic}} anime franchise (albeit with [[{{UsefulNotes/WarsOfTheRoses}} The Wars of The Roses]], not Feudal Japan.