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* LowTierLetdown: While the game is reasonably well-balanced and tier lists vary wildly, the one constant is that [[VideoGame/XenobladeChronicles1 Metal Face]] is considered the worst character in the game. On paper, his long range via his attacks and high weight would be mitigating factors for his glaring weaknesses, but they aren't enough to make up for his negative attributes, with his size, weight and fall speed making him especially susceptible to even the most basic combos.

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While the game is reasonably well-balanced and tier lists vary wildly, the one constant is that [[VideoGame/XenobladeChronicles1 Metal Face]] is considered the worst character in the game. On paper, his long range via his attacks and high weight would be mitigating factors for his glaring weaknesses, but they aren't enough to make up for his negative attributes, with his size, weight and fall speed making him especially susceptible to even the most basic combos.combos.
** Due to technical limitations regarding custom fighters, Pyra and Mythra have to be two separate characters. However, while solo-maining Sheik is a considered viable enough for her and Zelda to officially be two separate fighters in ''Smash 4'' onwards, this is not the case for solo-maining Mythra in ''Ultimate'', and splitting her apart from Pyra greatly impacts her ability to secure [=KOs=].
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Sans, and the game's ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'' representation in general. While many people love how Sans and his game are represented in ''EX'' and praise his moveset as well as the variety in ''Undertale'' stages and music, others (even [[CreatorBacklash some of the modders behind the game]]) dislike the representation due to the HypeBacklash associated with ''Undertale'', and feel that it would attract [[BrokenBase/{{Undertale}} the character's and game's]] ''[[BrokenBase/{{Undertale}} extremely]]'' [[BrokenBase/{{Undertale}} vocal fanbases]] to ''EX''. Given that a ''VideoGame/{{Deltarune}}'' stage is also present, the possibility of adding a fighter from that game such as Kris or Susie is contentious for the same reasons.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Sans, and the game's ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'' representation in general. While many people love how Sans and his game are represented in ''EX'' and praise his moveset as well as the variety in ''Undertale'' stages and music, others (even [[CreatorBacklash some of the modders behind the game]]) dislike the representation due to the HypeBacklash associated with ''Undertale'', and feel that it would attract [[BrokenBase/{{Undertale}} the character's and game's]] ''[[BrokenBase/{{Undertale}} extremely]]'' [[BrokenBase/{{Undertale}} vocal fanbases]] to ''EX''. Given that a ''VideoGame/{{Deltarune}}'' stage is also present, the possibility of adding a fighter from that game such as Kris or Kris, Susie or Spamton is contentious for the same reasons.
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* BetterThanCanon: With most of the ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBrosUltimate'' roster present along with the beloved ''Project M'' mechanics and extremely intricate and faithful movesets for both veterans and newcomers, some feel that ''PMEX REMIX'' is to ''Smash'' mods and fangames what ''Ultimate'' is to the official games.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: As with many other ''Brawl'' mods, ''PMEX REMIX'' seeks to address common fan complaints about the official ''Smash'' games.
** The bombastic E3 orchestral rendition of "Lifelight" is well-loved in the fandom, but is completely absent from ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBrosUltimate'', the game it was written for. ''PMEX REMIX'' uses it as its Battlefield theme - and properly looped, to boot.
** [[VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening Lucina]], a fighter not in ''VideoGame/ProjectM'', raised some eyebrows in the official ''Smash'' games for her MovesetClone status. The version of her used in ''PMEX REMIX'' is fully decloned from Marth and heavily inspired by her game of origin.
** Multiple franchises that are poorly or inadequately represented in the official ''Smash'' games have heavier representation in ''REMIX''.
*** The ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'' content and representation are heavily beefed up from the official ''Smash'' games prior to Sephiroth's addition to ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBrosUltimate''. An additional ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'' stage has been added in the form of Planet's Core, and the remix of "Let The Battles Begin" used for the stage is a ''Smash'' worthy remix rather than the [=PS1=] quality rip present in the real games. Not only is Cloud now fully voiced in English, but two additional ''Final Fantasy'' fighters have been added - his ArchNemesis Sephiroth, and protagonist of [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIII subsequent game]] Squall, the latter of which provides series representation outside of ''VII'' unlike the official games. In later builds (following Sephiroth's official inclusion in ''Smash''), Seph himself was updated to his ''Ultimate'' moveset (still with his English voice), more stages and tracks from across the ''Final Fantasy'' series were added, and a ''fourth'' fighter was added -- Zack Fair, as a semi-MovesetClone of Cloud.
*** [[Franchise/KingdomHearts Dive into the Heart]] features tracks from across the ''Kingdom Hearts'' series and not just [[VideoGame/KingdomHeartsI the original game]] as Hollow Bastion did in ''Ultimate''. Sora's up taunt is now actually a PracticalTaunt, with Cure, Aero and Stop actually having uses in battle.
*** ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'' is another franchise that's poorly represented in the official ''Smash'' games but is considerably beefed up in ''REMIX''. The game not only keeps Sonic's much better-received ''Project M'' moveset and adds the formerly canceled Knuckles as a playable fighter, but boasts ''six'' playable fighters,[[note]]the aforementioned Sonic and Knuckles plus Tails, Shadow, Silver and Metal Sonic[[/note]] a vast improvement from the official games' total of ''one'', and also features a wider variety of stages that go beyond the GreenHillZone aesthetic.
** [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Bowser]] finally uses his proper voiced sound clips by Kenny James instead of having the animalistic sounds he has in the official ''Smash'' games. Likewise, version 0.95b updated Pit's voice actor to Antony del Rio to keep him in line with his ''VideoGame/KidIcarusUprising'' depiction to match Dark Pit and Palutena, despite him keeping his largely ''Brawl''-derived ''Project M'' moveset.
** While [[Franchise/{{Pokemon}} the Pokémon Trainer]] is one of the most beloved fighters in ''Ultimate'', some Charizard mains from ''[=3DS/Wii U=]'' were [[IncrediblyLamePun burned]] by their favorite character no longer being a standalone fighter. As with ''VideoGame/ProjectM'', ''EX'' features Charizard along with Squirtle and Ivysaur as standalone fighters with more intricate movesets, all while bringing back most of the ''Ultimate'' cast and multiple newcomers so as to make less of a sacrifice in terms of roster size than ''PM'' and ''Project+''.
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** Two Characters from the Fighting game genre has caught people off guard: The first one being [[Franchise/MortalKombat Sub-Zero]], who hails from gaming's most gory fighting game series. Another fighting game character is perhaps more left-field and that is [[VideoGame/BlazBlue Nu-13]]. Weirdly enough is that [[SidelinedProtagonistCrossover she got in]] over the series protagonist, Ragna.

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** Two Characters characters from the Fighting fighting game genre has caught people off guard: The the first one being [[Franchise/MortalKombat Sub-Zero]], who hails from gaming's most gory fighting game series. Another The other fighting game character representative is perhaps more left-field and that is [[VideoGame/BlazBlue [[Franchise/BlazBlue Nu-13]]. Weirdly enough is that [[SidelinedProtagonistCrossover she got in]] over the series series' protagonist, Ragna.
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** Two Characters from the Fighting game genre has caught people off guard: The first one being [[Franchise/MortalKombat Sub-Zero]], who hails from gaming's most gory fighting game series. Another fighting game character is perhaps more left-field and that is [[VideoGame/BlazBlue Nu-13]]. Weirdly enough is that [[SidelinedProtagonistCrossover she got in]] over the series protagonist, Ragna.
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It seems the latest Remix update removed Metal Face's grab immunity.


* BaseBreakingCharacter: Sans, and the game's ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'' representation in general. While many people love how Sans and his game are represented in ''EX'' and praise his moveset as well as the variety in ''Undertale'' stages and music, others (even [[CreatorBacklash some of the modders behind the game]]) dislike the representation due to the HypeBacklash associated with ''Undertale'', and feel that it would attract the character's and game's ''extremely'' vocal fanbases to ''EX''. Given that a ''VideoGame/{{Deltarune}}'' stage is also present, the possibility of adding a fighter from that game such as Kris or Susie is contentious for the same reasons.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Sans, and the game's ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'' representation in general. While many people love how Sans and his game are represented in ''EX'' and praise his moveset as well as the variety in ''Undertale'' stages and music, others (even [[CreatorBacklash some of the modders behind the game]]) dislike the representation due to the HypeBacklash associated with ''Undertale'', and feel that it would attract [[BrokenBase/{{Undertale}} the character's and game's ''extremely'' game's]] ''[[BrokenBase/{{Undertale}} extremely]]'' [[BrokenBase/{{Undertale}} vocal fanbases fanbases]] to ''EX''. Given that a ''VideoGame/{{Deltarune}}'' stage is also present, the possibility of adding a fighter from that game such as Kris or Susie is contentious for the same reasons.



* TierInducedScrappy: While the game is reasonably well-balanced and tier lists vary wildly, the one constant is that [[VideoGame/XenobladeChronicles1 Metal Face]] is considered the worst character in the game. On paper, his immunity to grabs would be a mitigating factor for his glaring weaknesses, being the largest character in the game, but it isn't enough to make up for his negative attributes, with his size, weight and fall speed making him especially susceptible to even the most basic combos.

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* TierInducedScrappy: LowTierLetdown: While the game is reasonably well-balanced and tier lists vary wildly, the one constant is that [[VideoGame/XenobladeChronicles1 Metal Face]] is considered the worst character in the game. On paper, his immunity to grabs long range via his attacks and high weight would be a mitigating factor factors for his glaring weaknesses, being the largest character in the game, but it isn't they aren't enough to make up for his negative attributes, with his size, weight and fall speed making him especially susceptible to even the most basic combos.
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** Aside from the obvious Shulk, Pyra and Mythra, who else from ''VideoGame/XenobladeChronicles'' would be added? Nia? Jin? Fiora? Dunban? Elma? [[VideoGame/{{Xenosaga}} KOS-MOS]]? Nope, it's [[MascotVillain Metal Face]].

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** Aside from the obvious Shulk, Pyra and Mythra, who else from ''VideoGame/XenobladeChronicles'' would be added? Nia? Jin? Fiora? Dunban? Elma? Noah? Mio? [[VideoGame/{{Xenosaga}} KOS-MOS]]? Nope, it's [[MascotVillain Metal Face]].
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Uncanny Valley is IUEO now and the subjective version has been split; cleaning up misuse and ZCE in the process


* UncannyValley: Despite the SugarWiki/GeniusProgramming, many of the backported characters from ''[=3DS/Wii U=]'' and ''Ultimate'' (such as Sora and Shulk) completely lack facial animations due to technical limitations. While it can be hard to notice during a regular battle, seeing it up close can be unsettling, with one player comparing it to [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animegao_kigurumi animegao kigurumi]] cosplayers.
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** VideoGame/DrMario has been a ''Smash'' staple for years, ever since [[TheBusCameBack his return]] after ''Brawl''. VideoGame/DrLuigi, on the other hand, is a very obscure version of Luigi (only appearing in his self-titled game, ''Miracle Cure'' and ''VideoGame/DrMarioWorld'') but fits ''Smash'' like a glove given how he combines the concepts of two already-playable fighters.

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** VideoGame/DrMario has been a ''Smash'' staple for years, ever since [[TheBusCameBack his return]] after ''Brawl''. VideoGame/DrLuigi, Dr. '''Luigi''', on the other hand, is a very obscure version of Luigi (only appearing in his self-titled game, ''Miracle Cure'' and ''VideoGame/DrMarioWorld'') ''Dr. Mario World'') but fits ''Smash'' like a glove given how he combines the concepts of two already-playable fighters.



** Aside from the obvious Shulk, Pyra and Mythra, who else from ''VideoGame/XenobladeChronicles'' would be added? Nia? Jin? Fiora? Dunban? Elma? [[VideoGame/{{Xenosaga}} KOS-MOS]]? Nope, it's [[MascotVillain Metal Face]].

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** Aside from the obvious Shulk, Pyra and Mythra, who else from ''VideoGame/XenobladeChronicles'' would be added? Nia? Jin? Fiora? Dunban? Elma? [[VideoGame/{{Xenosaga}} KOS-MOS]]? Nope, it's [[MascotVillain Metal Face]].Face]].
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* Aside from the obvious Shulk, Pyra and Mythra, who else from ''VideoGame/XenobladeChronicles'' would be added? Nia? Jin? Fiora? Dunban? Elma? [[VideoGame/{{Xenosaga}} KOS-MOS]]? Nope, it's [[MascotVillain Metal Face]].

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* ** Aside from the obvious Shulk, Pyra and Mythra, who else from ''VideoGame/XenobladeChronicles'' would be added? Nia? Jin? Fiora? Dunban? Elma? [[VideoGame/{{Xenosaga}} KOS-MOS]]? Nope, it's [[MascotVillain Metal Face]].
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** Nobody expected a ''Franchise/DragonBall'' stage of all things to be added to the game, especially since it originates as a manga and not a video game. However, despite his ironic and unironic popularity as a ''Smash'' character request, Goku is nowhere to be seen because according to WordOfGod, no Goku mod exists that would be deemed high-quality enough for ''REMIX''.

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** Nobody expected a ''Franchise/DragonBall'' stage of all things to be added to the game, especially since it originates as a manga and not a video game. However, despite his ironic and unironic popularity as a ''Smash'' character request, Goku is nowhere to be seen because according to WordOfGod, no Goku mod exists that would be deemed high-quality enough for ''REMIX''.''REMIX''.
* Aside from the obvious Shulk, Pyra and Mythra, who else from ''VideoGame/XenobladeChronicles'' would be added? Nia? Jin? Fiora? Dunban? Elma? [[VideoGame/{{Xenosaga}} KOS-MOS]]? Nope, it's [[MascotVillain Metal Face]].
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* TierInducedScrappy: While the game is reasonably well-balanced and tier lists vary wildly, the one constant is that [[VideoGame/XenobladeChronicles1 Metal Face]] is considered the worst character in the game. Although he's immune to grabs, he is also the biggest target in the game and is a fast-faller, making him especially susceptible to even the most basic combos.

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* TierInducedScrappy: While the game is reasonably well-balanced and tier lists vary wildly, the one constant is that [[VideoGame/XenobladeChronicles1 Metal Face]] is considered the worst character in the game. Although he's immune On paper, his immunity to grabs, he is also grabs would be a mitigating factor for his glaring weaknesses, being the biggest target largest character in the game game, but it isn't enough to make up for his negative attributes, with his size, weight and is a fast-faller, fall speed making him especially susceptible to even the most basic combos.
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* TierInducedScrappy: While the game is reasonably well-balanced and tier lists vary wildly, the one constant is that [[VideoGame/XenobladeChronicles1 Metal Face]] is considered the worst character in the game. Although he's immune to grabs, he is also the biggest target in the game and is a fast-faller, making him especially susceptible to even the most basic combos.

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*** [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Bowser]] finally uses his proper voiced sound clips by Kenny James instead of having the animalistic sounds he has in the official ''Smash'' games. Likewise, version 0.95b updated Pit's voice actor to Antony del Rio to keep him in line with his ''VideoGame/KidIcarusUprising'' depiction to match Dark Pit and Palutena, despite him keeping his largely ''Brawl''-derived ''Project M'' moveset.


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** [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Bowser]] finally uses his proper voiced sound clips by Kenny James instead of having the animalistic sounds he has in the official ''Smash'' games. Likewise, version 0.95b updated Pit's voice actor to Antony del Rio to keep him in line with his ''VideoGame/KidIcarusUprising'' depiction to match Dark Pit and Palutena, despite him keeping his largely ''Brawl''-derived ''Project M'' moveset.
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*** [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Bowser]] finally uses his proper voiced sound clips by Kenny James instead of having the animalistic sounds he has in the official ''Smash'' games.

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*** [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Bowser]] finally uses his proper voiced sound clips by Kenny James instead of having the animalistic sounds he has in the official ''Smash'' games. Likewise, version 0.95b updated Pit's voice actor to Antony del Rio to keep him in line with his ''VideoGame/KidIcarusUprising'' depiction to match Dark Pit and Palutena, despite him keeping his largely ''Brawl''-derived ''Project M'' moveset.

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