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** Are netherworlders AlwaysChaoticEvil, or are they capable of good? On one hand, their goal is to bring about TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt and [[TheCorrupter they corrupt humans by their mere presence.]] On the other hand, they spend most of the game getting commanded by humans and [[spoiler:Danika]] states humans and Ogres are [[NotSoDifferent only distinguished by where they live.]] Frohm the Idealist complicates matters, depending on if you see his actions as AffablyEvil or PragmaticVillainy. While he encouraged humans to [[TheHedonist satisfy their darkest desires and pleasures]], he also actively tried to understand and protect them, making the land of Tybell peaceful enough that refugees willingly traveled there for safety from the war. Additionally, the player can recruit Goblins, Ogres, Gorgons and Saturoses into their army, though whether this is evidence of netherworlders getting a [[HeelFaceTurn change of heart]] and becoming [[NobleDemon Noble Demons]] or simply GameplayAndStorySegregation is up for debate.
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** Are netherworlders AlwaysChaoticEvil, or are they capable of good? On one hand, their goal is to bring about TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt and [[TheCorrupter they corrupt humans by their mere presence.]] On the other hand, they spend most of the game getting commanded by humans and [[spoiler:Danika]] states humans and Ogres are [[NotSoDifferent [[MirroringFactions only distinguished by where they live.]] Frohm the Idealist complicates matters, depending on if you see his actions as AffablyEvil or PragmaticVillainy. While he encouraged humans to [[TheHedonist satisfy their darkest desires and pleasures]], he also actively tried to understand and protect them, making the land of Tybell peaceful enough that refugees willingly traveled there for safety from the war. Additionally, the player can recruit Goblins, Ogres, Gorgons and Saturoses into their army, though whether this is evidence of netherworlders getting a [[HeelFaceTurn change of heart]] and becoming [[NobleDemon Noble Demons]] or simply GameplayAndStorySegregation is up for debate.
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** When Ankiseth asks if Magnus' mother ever resented him for [[TakingTheHeat his]] [[HeroWithBadPublicity decisions]], Magnus tells him she loved Ankiseth to the end. The very first scene of the game shows a young Magnus telling Yumil he doesn't know where his mother is, though. Did Magnus find her later, or otherwise heard she still loved Ankiseth? Or, since Ankiseth only asks Magnus this question [[spoiler:as he lays dying from Baldwin's stab]], is Magnus [[LetThemDieHappy lying]]?
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** When Ankiseth asks if Magnus' mother ever resented him for [[TakingTheHeat his]] [[HeroWithBadPublicity decisions]], Magnus tells him she loved Ankiseth to the end. The very first scene of the game shows a young Magnus telling Yumil he doesn't know where his mother is, though.though, and she's confirmed dead in Magnus' Hugo Report entry early on. Did Magnus find her later, or otherwise heard she still loved Ankiseth? Or, since Ankiseth only asks Magnus this question [[spoiler:as he lays dying from Baldwin's stab]], is Magnus [[LetThemDieHappy lying]]?
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: [[WolfMan Biske]] and [[KnightInSourArmor Carth]], the two low Chaos Frame-exclusive characters, are well-loved for being [[AntiHero edgier]] than the other possible recruits and [[RuleOfCool very, very cool.]]
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: EnsembleDarkhorse:
** [[WolfMan Biske]] and [[KnightInSourArmor Carth]], the two low Chaos Frame-exclusive characters, are well-loved for being [[AntiHero edgier]] than the other possible recruits and [[RuleOfCool very, very cool.]] ]]
** Among the villains, Jeal and Frohm get a surprising amount of attention from the fanbase for characters with such [[WeHardlyKnewYe limited screentime]].
** [[WolfMan Biske]] and [[KnightInSourArmor Carth]], the two low Chaos Frame-exclusive characters, are well-loved for being [[AntiHero edgier]] than the other possible recruits and [[RuleOfCool very, very cool.
** Among the villains, Jeal and Frohm get a surprising amount of attention from the fanbase for characters with such [[WeHardlyKnewYe limited screentime]].
** Ariosh's [[{{Squick}} description]] of where the Ogres came from.
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** The final level, where [[spoiler:all hell literally breaks lose, complete with some [[ScareChord startling]] new music.]]
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** The final level, where [[spoiler:all hell literally breaks lose, complete with some [[ScareChord startling]] new music.]]music]].
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** Xevec shows [[SourSupporter not everyone]] in the Revolutionary Army is a squeaky-clean idealist like Frederick and brings up how revolutions sometimes [[ShootTheDog need to make hard decisions]]. Yet since he gets little development and no PetTheDog moments, and the revolution can still succeed just fine [[TheComplainerIsAlwaysWrong without listening to him]]--and, to top it off, he [[spoiler:betrays Magnus]] later on--he ends up a StrawCharacter.
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* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: A "Giant" class was apparently planned at some point, but was ultimately DummiedOut due to memory constraints. By using a cheating device, one can hack a giant into their army and read its class description, which is a message to the giant from its programmer: "I'm sorry. I'll never forget you."
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* ContinuityLockout: If you got the bad ending and you haven't played [[VideoGame/OgreBattleTheMarchOfTheBlackQueen the first game]], good luck understanding [[spoiler:who the crap that [[HijackedByGanon demon baby]] is supposed to be]].
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* FauxSymbolism: Figures that a woman named Mari would [[spoiler:give birth to TheAntichrist]].
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* UnderusedGameMechanic: Combination spell-triggered evolutions. Skeletons and Stone Golems can only be evolved into Ghosts and Baldr Golems if they're hit with a Wind/Fire combination. There are only a handful of enemy formations in the game with even the ''possibility'' to cast combination magic, let alone the right combination, so the odds of having the right spell hit your Skeleton or Stone Golem are next to nothing.
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* UnderusedGameMechanic: UnderusedGameMechanic:
** Combination spell-triggered evolutions. Skeletons and Stone Golems can only be evolved into Ghosts and Baldr Golems if they're hit with a Wind/Fire combination. There are only a handful of enemy formations in the game with even the ''possibility'' to cast combination magic, let alone the right combination, so the odds of having the right spell hit your Skeleton or Stone Golem are next tonothing. nothing.
** Grozz Nuy switches attack types during combat, making him the only character in the game (including other boss-type enemies) to not be locked into using one skill per row. This is even more unusual when compared with the [[VideoGame/OgreBattleTheMarchOfTheBlackQueen original game]], which featured multiple bosses who used different abilities while fighting.
** Combination spell-triggered evolutions. Skeletons and Stone Golems can only be evolved into Ghosts and Baldr Golems if they're hit with a Wind/Fire combination. There are only a handful of enemy formations in the game with even the ''possibility'' to cast combination magic, let alone the right combination, so the odds of having the right spell hit your Skeleton or Stone Golem are next to
** Grozz Nuy switches attack types during combat, making him the only character in the game (including other boss-type enemies) to not be locked into using one skill per row. This is even more unusual when compared with the [[VideoGame/OgreBattleTheMarchOfTheBlackQueen original game]], which featured multiple bosses who used different abilities while fighting.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Are netherworlders AlwaysChaoticEvil, or are they capable of good? On one hand, their goal is to bring about TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt and [[TheCorrupter they corrupt humans by their mere presence.]] On the other hand, they spend most of the game getting commanded by humans and [[spoiler:Danika]] states humans and Ogres are [[NotSoDifferent only distinguished by where they live.]] Frohm the Idealist complicates matters, depending on if you see his actions as AffablyEvil or PragmaticVillainy. While he encouraged humans to [[TheHedonist satisfy their darkest desires and pleasures]], he also actively tried to understand and protect them, making the land of Tybell peaceful enough that refugees willingly traveled there for safety from the war. Additionally, the player can recruit Goblins, Ogres, Gorgons and Saturoses into their army, though whether this is evidence of netherworlders getting a [[HeelFaceTurn change of heart]] and becoming [[NobleDemon Noble Demons]] or simply GameplayAndStorySegregation is up for debate.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: AlternateCharacterInterpretation:
** Are netherworlders AlwaysChaoticEvil, or are they capable of good? On one hand, their goal is to bring about TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt and [[TheCorrupter they corrupt humans by their mere presence.]] On the other hand, they spend most of the game getting commanded by humans and [[spoiler:Danika]] states humans and Ogres are [[NotSoDifferent only distinguished by where they live.]] Frohm the Idealist complicates matters, depending on if you see his actions as AffablyEvil or PragmaticVillainy. While he encouraged humans to [[TheHedonist satisfy their darkest desires and pleasures]], he also actively tried to understand and protect them, making the land of Tybell peaceful enough that refugees willingly traveled there for safety from the war. Additionally, the player can recruit Goblins, Ogres, Gorgons and Saturoses into their army, though whether this is evidence of netherworlders getting a [[HeelFaceTurn change of heart]] and becoming [[NobleDemon Noble Demons]] or simply GameplayAndStorySegregation is up for debate.
** When Ankiseth asks if Magnus' mother ever resented him for [[TakingTheHeat his]] [[HeroWithBadPublicity decisions]], Magnus tells him she loved Ankiseth to the end. The very first scene of the game shows a young Magnus telling Yumil he doesn't know where his mother is, though. Did Magnus find her later, or otherwise heard she still loved Ankiseth? Or, since Ankiseth only asks Magnus this question [[spoiler:as he lays dying from Baldwin's stab]], is Magnus [[LetThemDieHappy lying]]?
** Are netherworlders AlwaysChaoticEvil, or are they capable of good? On one hand, their goal is to bring about TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt and [[TheCorrupter they corrupt humans by their mere presence.]] On the other hand, they spend most of the game getting commanded by humans and [[spoiler:Danika]] states humans and Ogres are [[NotSoDifferent only distinguished by where they live.]] Frohm the Idealist complicates matters, depending on if you see his actions as AffablyEvil or PragmaticVillainy. While he encouraged humans to [[TheHedonist satisfy their darkest desires and pleasures]], he also actively tried to understand and protect them, making the land of Tybell peaceful enough that refugees willingly traveled there for safety from the war. Additionally, the player can recruit Goblins, Ogres, Gorgons and Saturoses into their army, though whether this is evidence of netherworlders getting a [[HeelFaceTurn change of heart]] and becoming [[NobleDemon Noble Demons]] or simply GameplayAndStorySegregation is up for debate.
** When Ankiseth asks if Magnus' mother ever resented him for [[TakingTheHeat his]] [[HeroWithBadPublicity decisions]], Magnus tells him she loved Ankiseth to the end. The very first scene of the game shows a young Magnus telling Yumil he doesn't know where his mother is, though. Did Magnus find her later, or otherwise heard she still loved Ankiseth? Or, since Ankiseth only asks Magnus this question [[spoiler:as he lays dying from Baldwin's stab]], is Magnus [[LetThemDieHappy lying]]?
** The [[SoundtrackDissonance surprisingly serene]] "Over the World" track, played exclusively at Audvera.
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* FanficFuel: Who is the mother of Aeneas, [[spoiler:Magnus' son in the high Chaos Frame ending]]?
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* FanficFuel: Who is the mother of Aeneas, [[spoiler:Magnus' [[spoiler:Magnus]]'s son in the high Chaos Frame ending]]?ending?[[note]]Katreda and Liedel already get ShipTease with other characters, Aisha likely returns to Zenobia at the end of the game, and with where Leia is standing relative to Magnus in the high CF ending's final scene (the same as Dio), it seems unlikely to be her. Remaining options are Europea or Meredia, or perhaps a new person entirely.[[/note]]
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** The electrical "zzzzt" made by Plasma Storm, the Fire/Wind magic+ combination spell, usually right as it's demolishing the enemy group.
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** The electrical "zzzzt" made by Plasma Storm, the Fire/Wind magic+ combination spell, especially since it usually right as it's demolishing means the enemy group.group just got demolished.
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: Many tracks in the game are recycled from ''March of the Black Queen'' or ''Let Us Cling Together'', but ''Person of Lordly Caliber'' still has its share of great original themes:
** "Diana," generally associated with Destin, which plays whenever something awesome is happening.
** On the other side of the coin, there's "Homage" for the Knights Templar.
** "Loki," the theme of particularly important bosses.
** "The World For The People" during the siege levels.
** "The Bloody World," which only plays once on Celesis if one goes to Tremos I.
** "Diana," generally associated with Destin, which plays whenever something awesome is happening.
** On the other side of the coin, there's "Homage" for the Knights Templar.
** "Loki," the theme of particularly important bosses.
** "The World For The People" during the siege levels.
** "The Bloody World," which only plays once on Celesis if one goes to Tremos I.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: [[WolfMan Biske]] and [[KnightInSourArmor Carth]], the two low Chaos Frame-exclusive characters, are well-loved for being [[AntiHero edgier]] than the other possible recruits and [[RuleOfCool very, very cool.]]
* FanficFuel: Who is the mother of Aeneas, [[spoiler:Magnus' son in the high Chaos Frame ending]]?
* FridgeHorror: Depending on how one interprets Ariosh's description of where Godeslas' Ogres came from, it's possible [[spoiler:they are Godeslas' wife and daughters transformed]], with Ariosh's [[BossInMookClothing level 20 Ogre]] sometimes considered [[spoiler:his wife]]. That's right--you weren't just killing Ogres, you were [[spoiler:killing ''children'']].
* FridgeHorror: Depending on how one interprets Ariosh's description of where Godeslas' Ogres came from, it's possible [[spoiler:they are Godeslas' wife and daughters transformed]], with Ariosh's [[BossInMookClothing level 20 Ogre]] sometimes considered [[spoiler:his wife]]. That's right--you weren't just killing Ogres, you were [[spoiler:killing ''children'']].
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* HoYay: Any scene featuring Yumil and Magnus is full of this. Like Yumil asking Magnus to "become his knight".
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* ItsEasySoItSucks: Not really "sucks," since many fans of the game love the amount of depth that can go into character customization and army management, and also like the battle system, music, and story. However, the enemy group design is very poor and never improves, so as the player gets access to better classes and weapons, the game becomes less and less challenging. It can be a bit of a letdown that your well-trained death army never truly gets a WorthyOpponent.
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* HoYay: Any scene featuring Yumil and Magnus is full of this. Like Yumil asking Magnus to "become his knight".
* ItsEasySoItSucks:Not really "sucks," since many Many fans of the game love the amount of depth that can go into character customization and army management, and also like the battle system, music, and story. However, the enemy group design is very poor and never improves, so as the player gets access to better classes and weapons, the game becomes less and less challenging. It can be a bit of a letdown that your well-trained death army never truly gets a WorthyOpponent.WorthyOpponent.
* ItWasHisSled: There is a secret BadEnding BonusLevel [[spoiler:where you kill all the Zenobians]]. It's easy for a newcomer to have this spoiled if they look up the game online.
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* ItWasHisSled: There is a secret BadEnding BonusLevel [[spoiler:where you kill all the Zenobians]]. It's easy for a newcomer to have this spoiled if they look up the game online.
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* MemeticLoser: Kerikov. His [[OhCrap portrait]] certainly doesn't help.
* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome:
** The Zenobians rescuing Qad in the prologue.
** Richard barging in on Procus' scheming at the start of Chapter Three and taking control of Palatinus.
** Destin and Gilbert [[spoiler:fighting Richard and Baldwin at the Temple of Berthe]].
* SugarWiki/MostWonderfulSound:
** The boom when an enemy group is eliminated, especially if accompanied by an ItemGet jingle.
** The electrical "zzzzt" made by Plasma Storm, the Fire/Wind magic+ combination spell, usually right as it's demolishing the enemy group.
* NightmareFuel:
** The unsettling "Deathagony" music track which plays during the story's creepiest moments--most notably, the debut of the Ogres.
** The final level, where [[spoiler:all hell literally breaks lose, complete with some [[ScareChord startling]] new music.]]
* OneSceneWonder: Grozz Nuy, the DuelBoss climax of the Dragoon sidequest. He's not especially tough, but he makes quite the impression.
* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome:
** The Zenobians rescuing Qad in the prologue.
** Richard barging in on Procus' scheming at the start of Chapter Three and taking control of Palatinus.
** Destin and Gilbert [[spoiler:fighting Richard and Baldwin at the Temple of Berthe]].
* SugarWiki/MostWonderfulSound:
** The boom when an enemy group is eliminated, especially if accompanied by an ItemGet jingle.
** The electrical "zzzzt" made by Plasma Storm, the Fire/Wind magic+ combination spell, usually right as it's demolishing the enemy group.
* NightmareFuel:
** The unsettling "Deathagony" music track which plays during the story's creepiest moments--most notably, the debut of the Ogres.
** The final level, where [[spoiler:all hell literally breaks lose, complete with some [[ScareChord startling]] new music.]]
* OneSceneWonder: Grozz Nuy, the DuelBoss climax of the Dragoon sidequest. He's not especially tough, but he makes quite the impression.
* SignatureScene:
** The Zenobians' BigDamnHeroes moment in the prologue.
** The first battle against Ogres at Dardunnelles. NightmareFuel + DifficultySpike + ThatOneBoss, combined with being the first ever on-screen appearance of Ogres in a series named after them, makes it one of the most memorable scenes in the game.
** The Zenobians' BigDamnHeroes moment in the prologue.
** The first battle against Ogres at Dardunnelles. NightmareFuel + DifficultySpike + ThatOneBoss, combined with being the first ever on-screen appearance of Ogres in a series named after them, makes it one of the most memorable scenes in the game.
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** [[MookLieutenant Ariosh]], because of the [[BossInMookClothing infamous level 20 Ogre]] he's got with him.
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** [[MookLieutenant Ariosh]], mostly because of the [[BossInMookClothing infamous level 20 Ogre]] he's got with him. He's also the first boss not immediately open to melee attacks at a time when you still probably don't have much in the way of back-row firepower, and the ''only'' boss to not be in the middle column, meaning it's harder to concentrate attacks on him.
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* UnderusedGameMechanic: Combination spell-triggered evolutions. Skeletons and Stone Golems can only be evolved into Ghosts and Baldr Golems if they're hit with a Wind/Fire combination. There are only a handful of enemy formations in the game with even the ''possibility'' to cast combination magic, let alone the right combination, so the odds of having the right spell hit your Skeleton or Stone Golem are next to nothing.
* TheWoobie: Mari. A common girl chosen to be the servant to Prince Yumil and falls in love with him...[[spoiler: then loses Yumil, gets mind controlled, realizes her love for Yumil was artificially given to her by outside sources, accidentally releases a potential world-destroying goddess, and finally gets unceremoniously killed by Baldwin.]] Just when it seems like her existence couldn't be any worse, the low Chaos Frame ending shows that [[spoiler: her child from Yumil is actually the reincarnation of Rashidi, meaning she's partly responsible for giving the AntiChrist godlike power.]]
* TheWoobie: Mari. A common girl chosen to be the servant to Prince Yumil and falls in love with him...[[spoiler: then loses Yumil, gets mind controlled, realizes her love for Yumil was artificially given to her by outside sources, accidentally releases a potential world-destroying goddess, and finally gets unceremoniously killed by Baldwin.]] Just when it seems like her existence couldn't be any worse, the low Chaos Frame ending shows that [[spoiler: her child from Yumil is actually the reincarnation of Rashidi, meaning she's partly responsible for giving the AntiChrist godlike power.]]
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** Had Godeslas' [[spoiler:wife and daughters]] been seen, even briefly, before [[spoiler:getting sacrificed to make Ogres]], it could've made a chilling PlayerPunch. Instead, they are not in any way hinted to even exist ''at all'' before being KilledOffscreen.
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** Chapter Three ends with three main enemy factions in play: the Central Division, the Lodis remnants, and the netherworlders. The Revolutionary Army proposes a truce with the Central Division so they can team up against the latter two. However, Chapter Four quickly presents a ConflictKiller in the form of [[spoiler:the Infernal Aura, which [[EnemyMine consolidates]] all three enemy factions into one for the rest of the game, effectively eliminating any nuance the story had]]. It could have been interesting to watch the four factions maneuvering, scheming, and politicking to control Palatinus, perhaps invoking GreyAndBlackMorality at points.
* TierInducedScrappy: Vampires and centurions both take quite a lot of work to get despite being nigh-useless in combat.
* UnderusedGameMechanic: Combination spell-triggered evolutions. Skeletons and Stone Golems can only be evolved into Ghosts and Baldr Golems if they're hit with a Wind/Fire combination. There are only a handful of enemy formations in the game with even the ''possibility'' to cast combination magic, let alone the right combination, so the odds of having the right spell hit your Skeleton or Stone Golem are next to nothing.
* TheWoobie: Mari. A common girl chosen to be the servant to Prince Yumil and falls in love with him...[[spoiler: then loses Yumil, gets mind controlled, realizes her love for Yumil was artificially given to her by outside sources, accidentally releases a potential world-destroying goddess, and finally gets unceremoniously killed by Baldwin.]] Just when it seems like her existence couldn't be any worse, the low Chaos Frame ending shows that [[spoiler: her child from Yumil is actually the reincarnation of Rashidi, meaning she's partly responsible for giving the AntiChrist godlike power.]]
* SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome: Much of the combat magic. Atmosphere, the Water/Wind Magic+ combination spell, is often brought up as especially impressive and satisfying to use.
* TierInducedScrappy: Vampires and centurions both take quite a lot of work to get despite being nigh-useless in combat.
* UnderusedGameMechanic: Combination spell-triggered evolutions. Skeletons and Stone Golems can only be evolved into Ghosts and Baldr Golems if they're hit with a Wind/Fire combination. There are only a handful of enemy formations in the game with even the ''possibility'' to cast combination magic, let alone the right combination, so the odds of having the right spell hit your Skeleton or Stone Golem are next to nothing.
* TheWoobie: Mari. A common girl chosen to be the servant to Prince Yumil and falls in love with him...[[spoiler: then loses Yumil, gets mind controlled, realizes her love for Yumil was artificially given to her by outside sources, accidentally releases a potential world-destroying goddess, and finally gets unceremoniously killed by Baldwin.]] Just when it seems like her existence couldn't be any worse, the low Chaos Frame ending shows that [[spoiler: her child from Yumil is actually the reincarnation of Rashidi, meaning she's partly responsible for giving the AntiChrist godlike power.]]
* SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome: Much of the combat magic. Atmosphere, the Water/Wind Magic+ combination spell, is often brought up as especially impressive and satisfying to use.
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* GoddamnedBoss: Mylmurre the Gorgon, boss of Barpheth. She's not necessarily ''hard''...but unless you're still lugging around those Paladins and Cataphracts late into Chapter Four, or for some reason [[TalkToEveryone visited a certain town on the stage and received a hint of what was coming]], Mylmurre will petrify most or all of your group in one shot with her Gaze of Terror, costing 500 Goth per person to restore. Even if you attack her from behind, her bow shots can still turn your units to stone.
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* SpoiledByTheFormat: The fact Wentinus is suspiciously cut off from player access at the end of Chapter Two makes it obvious ''something'' has to happen there later, spoiling how [[spoiler:defeating Yumil and liberating Winnea, the conflict built up to the entire game, is not the climax]].
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* SpoiledByTheFormat: SpoiledByTheFormat:
** The fact Wentinus is suspiciously cut off from player access at the end of Chapter Two makes it obvious ''something'' has to happen there later, spoiling how [[spoiler:defeating Yumil and liberating Winnea, the conflict built up to the entire game, is not theclimax]].climax]].
** Unlike [[FolkHero the Progenitor]] and [[TheUnseen Saldian]], who are represented in the Hugo Report by their countries' emblems, [[spoiler:Danika]] gets an actual portrait, spoiling how [[spoiler:you will meet her in person]] at some point.
** The fact Wentinus is suspiciously cut off from player access at the end of Chapter Two makes it obvious ''something'' has to happen there later, spoiling how [[spoiler:defeating Yumil and liberating Winnea, the conflict built up to the entire game, is not the
** Unlike [[FolkHero the Progenitor]] and [[TheUnseen Saldian]], who are represented in the Hugo Report by their countries' emblems, [[spoiler:Danika]] gets an actual portrait, spoiling how [[spoiler:you will meet her in person]] at some point.
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** Unlike [[VideoGame/TacticsOgre Let Us Cling Together]], besides Baldwin this game's Temple Commands get hardly any characterization, scenes, or even lines before they're fought and killed.
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** Unlike [[VideoGame/TacticsOgre Let Us Cling Together]], besides Baldwin this game's Temple Commands get hardly any characterization, scenes, or even lines before they're fought and killed. The worst is Vapula, who's revealed to be a [[HidingYourHeritage soldier of Zeteginea]] and a [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse former comrade of Debonair's]], but only in an [[GuideDangIt easily-missable]] pre-battle cutscene right before his death.
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* SpoiledByTheFormat: The fact Wentinus is suspiciously cut off from player access at the end of Chapter Two makes it obvious ''something'' has to happen there later, spoiling how [[spoiler:defeating Yumil and liberating Winnea, the conflict built up to the entire game, is not the climax]].
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* AwesomeEgo: Richard.
* BestLevelEver: "The Mercenaries" in Chapter Three, partly because of its [[DifficultySpike difficulty.]]
* GameBreaker: The Item Duplication Glitch. It's a method that allows you to create up to 99 of any usable item. To which you can duplicate stat upgrade items, alignment upgrade items, even [[RareCandy Champion Statuettes]]!
* BestLevelEver: "The Mercenaries" in Chapter Three, partly because of its [[DifficultySpike difficulty.]]
* GameBreaker: The Item Duplication Glitch. It's a method that allows you to create up to 99 of any usable item. To which you can duplicate stat upgrade items, alignment upgrade items, even [[RareCandy Champion Statuettes]]!
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* AwesomeEgo: Richard.
* BestLevelEver:BestLevelEver:
** "The Mercenaries" in Chapter Three, partly because of its [[DifficultySpikedifficulty.]]
difficulty]] and for feeling like TheWarSequence.
** The siege missions, due to UnexpectedGameplayChange and their awesome music.
*GameBreaker: EvilIsCool:
** The knights of Lodis in general, but especially Richard.
** Some netherworlders, like Ogres and Saturos, which is why many players are happy they become recruitable in Chapter Four.
* GameBreaker:
** The Item Duplication Glitch. It's a method that allows you to create up to 99 of any usable item. To which you can duplicate stat upgrade items, alignment upgrade items, even [[RareCandy ChampionStatuettes]]!Statuettes]]!
** Stat-increase-on-level-up items can turn all those Level 3's you've saved from the beginning into gods.
* BestLevelEver:
** "The Mercenaries" in Chapter Three, partly because of its [[DifficultySpike
** The siege missions, due to UnexpectedGameplayChange and their awesome music.
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** The knights of Lodis in general, but especially Richard.
** Some netherworlders, like Ogres and Saturos, which is why many players are happy they become recruitable in Chapter Four.
* GameBreaker:
** The Item Duplication Glitch. It's a method that allows you to create up to 99 of any usable item. To which you can duplicate stat upgrade items, alignment upgrade items, even [[RareCandy Champion
** Stat-increase-on-level-up items can turn all those Level 3's you've saved from the beginning into gods.
* LoveToHate: Rhade is so ridiculously [[LargeHam over-the-top]] [[HateSink evil]] that he's more fun to watch than some later, more serious villains.
* MemeticLoser: Kerikov.
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** Yumil and his older brother Amrius are never seen interacting at any point, [[spoiler:and definitely not after both have [[TookALevelInBadass taken several levels in badass]]]].
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** Yumil and his older brother Amrius are never seen interacting at any point, [[spoiler:and definitely not after both have [[TookALevelInBadass taken several levels in badass]]]].badass]]]].
* WhatAnIdiot: Mari holds the IdiotBall at several points, preventing the game from getting wrapped up after Latium is liberated.
* WhatAnIdiot: Mari holds the IdiotBall at several points, preventing the game from getting wrapped up after Latium is liberated.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Are netherworlders AlwaysChaoticEvil, or are they capable of good? On one hand, their goal is to bring about TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt and [[TheCorrupter they corrupt humans by their mere presence.]] On the other hand, they spend most of the game getting commanded by humans and [[spoiler:Danika]] states humans and Ogres are [[NotSoDifferent only distinguished by where they live.]] Frohm the Idealist complicates matters, depending on if you see his actions as AffablyEvil or PragmaticVillainy. While he encouraged humans to [[TheHedonist satisfy their darkest desires and pleasures]], he also actively tried to understand and protect them, making the land of Tybell peaceful enough that refugees willingly traveled there for safety from the war. Additionally, the player can recruit Goblins, Ogres, Gorgons and Saturoses into their army, though whether this is evidence of netherworlders getting a [[HeelFaceTurn change of heart]] and becoming [[NobleDemon Noble Demons]] or simply GameplayAndStorySegregation is up for debate.
* AwesomeEgo: Richard.
* BestLevelEver: "The Mercenaries" in Chapter Three, partly because of its [[DifficultySpike difficulty.]]
* AwesomeEgo: Richard.
* BestLevelEver: "The Mercenaries" in Chapter Three, partly because of its [[DifficultySpike difficulty.]]
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** Faeries and Gremlins, as they're FragileSpeedster incarnate and will dodge your attacks half the time. They only get real bad when paired with a healer at least.
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** Faeries and Gremlins, as they're FragileSpeedster incarnate and will dodge your attacks half the time. (Particularly Gremlins, who can put units to sleep with Abyss.) They only get real bad when paired with a healer at least.
** The Fairy's Blow Kiss ability can be used to evolve beasts and dragons a few levels earlier than they would be able to normally.
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* ScrappyMechanic: Chaos Frame and alignment, two linked traits. While CF is supposed to demonstrate the difference between responsible and vicious tactics, it's so obscure that virtually all players fail to realize the difference between "capturing" a town and "liberating" it is anything more than flavor text. Alignment, while actual visible to the player is absurdly difficult to control in any meaningful as well.
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* ScrappyMechanic: ScrappyMechanic:
** Chaos Frame and alignment, two linked traits. While CF is supposed to demonstrate the difference between responsible and vicious tactics, it's so obscure that virtually all players fail to realize the difference between "capturing" a town and "liberating" it is anything more than flavor text. Alignment, while actual visible to the player is absurdly difficult to control in any meaningful aswell.well.
** How to get Angel Knights (without using Love and Peace.) You have to kill a female character in order to get a ''chance'' for her to become an Angel Knight...and you'll likely just get a zombie instead and have to replay the entire level. Mastaba's Barrier can help with this but [[GuideDangIt most first-time players don't know about birthday gifts.]]
** Chaos Frame and alignment, two linked traits. While CF is supposed to demonstrate the difference between responsible and vicious tactics, it's so obscure that virtually all players fail to realize the difference between "capturing" a town and "liberating" it is anything more than flavor text. Alignment, while actual visible to the player is absurdly difficult to control in any meaningful as
** How to get Angel Knights (without using Love and Peace.) You have to kill a female character in order to get a ''chance'' for her to become an Angel Knight...and you'll likely just get a zombie instead and have to replay the entire level. Mastaba's Barrier can help with this but [[GuideDangIt most first-time players don't know about birthday gifts.]]
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* TheWoobie: Mari. A common girl chosen to be the servant to Prince Yumil and falls in love with him...[[spoiler: then loses Yumil, gets mind controlled, realizes her love for Yumil was artificially given to her by outside sources, accidentally releases a potential world-destroying goddess, and finally gets unceremoniously killed by Baldwin.]] Just when it seems like her existence couldn't be any worse, the low Chaos Frame ending shows that [[spoiler: her child from Yumil is actually the reincarnation of Rashidi, meaning she's partly responsible for giving the AntiChrist godlike power.]]
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* TearJerker: Unlike ''Let Us Cling Together'', ''Person of Lordly Caliber'''s StoryBranching generally doesn't punish the player for "good" decisions. This can make a "bad" playthrough all the more heartbreaking by knowing many sad events ''could'' have been prevented.
** If you [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential choose]] to [[WhatTheHellHero follow orders]] at the end of Chapter Two, there's the PlayerPunch that is [[spoiler:Ankiseth's death]].
** The battle at the gates of Fort Romulus, [[spoiler:if you lost Dio back in Chapter One]].
** [[spoiler:Yumil]]'s [[HeelFaceDoorSlam death]] in Chapter Four.
** The secret level "Caliber" forces you to kill [[spoiler:all the Zenobians]] in what's basically a mission-long WhatTheHellHero. [[spoiler:[[BigGood Destin]]]]'s death is especially heartbreaking, and it's even worse if you've already beaten ''March of the Black Queen.'' If that's not sad enough, the last words of each are all tear jerkers on their own, though [[spoiler:Aisha]]'s might be the worse:
--> [[TogetherInDeath "Mother, the time has come for me to see you again."]]
** Magnus' fate in a low Chaos Frame ending. [[spoiler:His own troops turn on him and he's cast out of the kingdom as possessed. He still helps fight against the following barbarian invasion, but Palatinus is completely destroyed anyway]].
* ThatOneBoss:
** [[MookLieutenant Ariosh]], because of the [[BossInMookClothing infamous level 20 Ogre]] he's got with him.
** Amrius, for using a Pedra of Bane twice in the second round with him. He's quite beatable, but odds are he'll kill at least one of your units before going down, meaning there's a chance you win, [[PyrrhicVictory an important character becomes a zombie,]] and you restart the level. To make matters worse, there are no witch dens in a siege level, so you'd better hope you brought some Altars of Resurrection with you.
* UnderusedGameMechanic: Combination spell-triggered evolutions. Skeletons and Stone Golems can only be evolved into Ghosts and Baldr Golems if they're hit with a Wind/Fire combination. There are only a handful of enemy formations in the game with even the ''possibility'' to cast combination magic, let alone the right combination, so the odds of having the right spell hit your Skeleton or Stone Golem are next to nothing.
* TheWoobie: Mari. A common girl chosen to be the servant to Prince Yumil and falls in love with him...[[spoiler: then loses Yumil, gets mind controlled, realizes her love for Yumil was artificially given to her by outside sources, accidentally releases a potential world-destroying goddess, and finally gets unceremoniously killed by Baldwin.]] Just when it seems like her existence couldn't be any worse, the low Chaos Frame ending shows that [[spoiler: her child from Yumil is actually the reincarnation of Rashidi, meaning she's partly responsible for giving the AntiChrist godlike power.]]]]
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter:
** Jeal gets his own Hugo Report entry and appears prominently in the prologue, where he's the [[RedOniBlueOni Blue Oni to Rhade's Red]] and set up as a potential Central Division character that's [[LawfulNeutral neither]] a {{Jerkass}}, a DirtyCoward, or completely sympathetic. Despite this he's never seen or mentioned again before he dies in Chapter Three.
** Unlike [[VideoGame/TacticsOgre Let Us Cling Together]], besides Baldwin this game's Temple Commands get hardly any characterization, scenes, or even lines before they're fought and killed.
** Frohm the Idealist, a OneSceneWonder AffablyEvil demon who wants to live with humans. He's the series' first and only example of a possibly benevolent demon, and his existence brings up ways to explore [[spoiler:Danika]]'s [[AnAesop Aesop]] that HumansAreTheRealMonsters. Yet unlike [[VideoGame/OgreBattleTheMarchOfTheBlackQueen Galf]] or [[VideoGame/TacticsOgreTheKnightOfLodis Saia]], there's no option to recruit him, or even spare his life.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot:
** The story brings up the moral issue of fighting Bolmaukan slaves and involving them in the revolution. Whether you liberate them or not has no long-term effect on the story, and you can kill as many as you want in battle without any consequences at all.
** Yumil and his older brother Amrius are never seen interacting at any point, [[spoiler:and definitely not after both have [[TookALevelInBadass taken several levels in badass]]]].
** If you [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential choose]] to [[WhatTheHellHero follow orders]] at the end of Chapter Two, there's the PlayerPunch that is [[spoiler:Ankiseth's death]].
** The battle at the gates of Fort Romulus, [[spoiler:if you lost Dio back in Chapter One]].
** [[spoiler:Yumil]]'s [[HeelFaceDoorSlam death]] in Chapter Four.
** The secret level "Caliber" forces you to kill [[spoiler:all the Zenobians]] in what's basically a mission-long WhatTheHellHero. [[spoiler:[[BigGood Destin]]]]'s death is especially heartbreaking, and it's even worse if you've already beaten ''March of the Black Queen.'' If that's not sad enough, the last words of each are all tear jerkers on their own, though [[spoiler:Aisha]]'s might be the worse:
--> [[TogetherInDeath "Mother, the time has come for me to see you again."]]
** Magnus' fate in a low Chaos Frame ending. [[spoiler:His own troops turn on him and he's cast out of the kingdom as possessed. He still helps fight against the following barbarian invasion, but Palatinus is completely destroyed anyway]].
* ThatOneBoss:
** [[MookLieutenant Ariosh]], because of the [[BossInMookClothing infamous level 20 Ogre]] he's got with him.
** Amrius, for using a Pedra of Bane twice in the second round with him. He's quite beatable, but odds are he'll kill at least one of your units before going down, meaning there's a chance you win, [[PyrrhicVictory an important character becomes a zombie,]] and you restart the level. To make matters worse, there are no witch dens in a siege level, so you'd better hope you brought some Altars of Resurrection with you.
* UnderusedGameMechanic: Combination spell-triggered evolutions. Skeletons and Stone Golems can only be evolved into Ghosts and Baldr Golems if they're hit with a Wind/Fire combination. There are only a handful of enemy formations in the game with even the ''possibility'' to cast combination magic, let alone the right combination, so the odds of having the right spell hit your Skeleton or Stone Golem are next to nothing.
* TheWoobie: Mari. A common girl chosen to be the servant to Prince Yumil and falls in love with him...[[spoiler: then loses Yumil, gets mind controlled, realizes her love for Yumil was artificially given to her by outside sources, accidentally releases a potential world-destroying goddess, and finally gets unceremoniously killed by Baldwin.]] Just when it seems like her existence couldn't be any worse, the low Chaos Frame ending shows that [[spoiler: her child from Yumil is actually the reincarnation of Rashidi, meaning she's partly responsible for giving the AntiChrist godlike power.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter:
** Jeal gets his own Hugo Report entry and appears prominently in the prologue, where he's the [[RedOniBlueOni Blue Oni to Rhade's Red]] and set up as a potential Central Division character that's [[LawfulNeutral neither]] a {{Jerkass}}, a DirtyCoward, or completely sympathetic. Despite this he's never seen or mentioned again before he dies in Chapter Three.
** Unlike [[VideoGame/TacticsOgre Let Us Cling Together]], besides Baldwin this game's Temple Commands get hardly any characterization, scenes, or even lines before they're fought and killed.
** Frohm the Idealist, a OneSceneWonder AffablyEvil demon who wants to live with humans. He's the series' first and only example of a possibly benevolent demon, and his existence brings up ways to explore [[spoiler:Danika]]'s [[AnAesop Aesop]] that HumansAreTheRealMonsters. Yet unlike [[VideoGame/OgreBattleTheMarchOfTheBlackQueen Galf]] or [[VideoGame/TacticsOgreTheKnightOfLodis Saia]], there's no option to recruit him, or even spare his life.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot:
** The story brings up the moral issue of fighting Bolmaukan slaves and involving them in the revolution. Whether you liberate them or not has no long-term effect on the story, and you can kill as many as you want in battle without any consequences at all.
** Yumil and his older brother Amrius are never seen interacting at any point, [[spoiler:and definitely not after both have [[TookALevelInBadass taken several levels in badass]]]].
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* TheWoobie: Mari. A common girl chosen to be the servant to Prince Yumil and falls in love with him...[[spoiler: then loses Yumil, gets mind controlled, realizes her love for Yumil was artificially given to her by outside sources, accidentally releases a potential world-destroying goddess, and finally gets unceremoniously killed by Baldwin.]] Just when it seems like her existence couldn't be any worse, the low Chaos Frame ending shows that [[spoiler: her child from Yumil is actually the reincarnation of Rashidi, meaning she's partly responsible for giving the AntiChrist godlike power.]]
* WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds:
** In the latter half of the game, [[spoiler: Prince Yumil.]] Having a crappy childhood and [[spoiler: getting force-fed a fruit that makes you evil]] means that it's hard not to feel sorry for him even as he's killing people and trying to take over the world.
** Also, [[spoiler: Danika.]]
* WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds:
** In the latter half of the game, [[spoiler: Prince Yumil.]] Having a crappy childhood and [[spoiler: getting force-fed a fruit that makes you evil]] means that it's hard not to feel sorry for him even as he's killing people and trying to take over the world.
** Also, [[spoiler: Danika.]]
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* TheWoobie: Mari. A common girl chosen to be the servant to Prince Yumil and falls in love with him...[[spoiler: then loses Yumil, gets mind controlled, realizes her love for Yumil was artificially given to her by outside sources, accidentally releases a potential world-destroying goddess, and finally gets unceremoniously killed by Baldwin.]] Just when it seems like her existence couldn't be any worse, the low Chaos Frame ending shows that [[spoiler: her child from Yumil is actually the reincarnation of Rashidi, meaning she's partly responsible for giving the AntiChrist godlike power.]]
* WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds:
** In the latter half of the game, [[spoiler: Prince Yumil.]] Having a crappy childhood and [[spoiler: getting force-fed a fruit that makes you evil]] means that it's hard not to feel sorry for him even as he's killing people and trying to take over the world.
** Also, [[spoiler: Danika.]]
* WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds:
** In the latter half of the game, [[spoiler: Prince Yumil.]] Having a crappy childhood and [[spoiler: getting force-fed a fruit that makes you evil]] means that it's hard not to feel sorry for him even as he's killing people and trying to take over the world.
** Also, [[spoiler: Danika.
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Many fans have shared this opinion on the Ogre Battle 64 boards of Game Faqs and other sites.
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* ItsEasySoItSucks: Not really "sucks," since many fans of the game love the amount of depth that can go into character customization and army management, and also like the battle system, music, and story. However, the enemy group design is very poor and never improves, so as the player gets access to better classes and weapons, the game becomes less and less challenging. It can be a bit of a letdown that your well-trained death army never truly gets a WorthyOpponent.
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* GoodBadBugs:
** The previously mentioned Item Duplication Glitch.
** While the special character Meredia is intended to join at level 17, a glitch enables players to get her as low as level 3, allowing them to abuse stat-increase-upon-level-up items to shoot her INT up to ridiculous heights. If Meredia's trained this way, she can OHKO entire enemy groups by herself, possibly making her the most powerful unit in the game (at least when it comes to most damage done with a single attack) without using the Item Duplication Glitch.
** The previously mentioned Item Duplication Glitch.
** While the special character Meredia is intended to join at level 17, a glitch enables players to get her as low as level 3, allowing them to abuse stat-increase-upon-level-up items to shoot her INT up to ridiculous heights. If Meredia's trained this way, she can OHKO entire enemy groups by herself, possibly making her the most powerful unit in the game (at least when it comes to most damage done with a single attack) without using the Item Duplication Glitch.
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: A number of characters, even Rhade despite his {{Jerkass}} personality, bring up that rebelling against the puppet government in Palatinis will only bring about war with Lodis, which they argue is hopeless. Much as the player would hate to admit it, since this is also brought up by someone from the rebellion that sides with characters using demons, they have a point and no matter what ending you get, there's mention that will be a war with Lodis.
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: A number of characters, even Rhade despite his {{Jerkass}} personality, bring up that rebelling against the puppet government in Palatinis Palatinus will only bring about war with Lodis, which they argue is hopeless. Much as the player would hate to admit it, since this is also brought up by someone from the rebellion that sides with characters using demons, they have a point and no matter what ending you get, there's mention that will be a war with Lodis.Lodis.
* TheWoobie: Mari. A common girl chosen to be the servant to Prince Yumil and falls in love with him...[[spoiler: then loses Yumil, gets mind controlled, realizes her love for Yumil was artificially given to her by outside sources, accidentally releases a potential world-destroying goddess, and finally gets unceremoniously killed by Baldwin.]] Just when it seems like her existence couldn't be any worse, the low Chaos Frame ending shows that [[spoiler: her child from Yumil is actually the reincarnation of Rashidi, meaning she's partly responsible for giving the AntiChrist godlike power.]]
* WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds:
** In the latter half of the game, [[spoiler: Prince Yumil.]] Having a crappy childhood and [[spoiler: getting force-fed a fruit that makes you evil]] means that it's hard not to feel sorry for him even as he's killing people and trying to take over the world.
** Also, [[spoiler: Danika.]]
* TheWoobie: Mari. A common girl chosen to be the servant to Prince Yumil and falls in love with him...[[spoiler: then loses Yumil, gets mind controlled, realizes her love for Yumil was artificially given to her by outside sources, accidentally releases a potential world-destroying goddess, and finally gets unceremoniously killed by Baldwin.]] Just when it seems like her existence couldn't be any worse, the low Chaos Frame ending shows that [[spoiler: her child from Yumil is actually the reincarnation of Rashidi, meaning she's partly responsible for giving the AntiChrist godlike power.]]
* WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds:
** In the latter half of the game, [[spoiler: Prince Yumil.]] Having a crappy childhood and [[spoiler: getting force-fed a fruit that makes you evil]] means that it's hard not to feel sorry for him even as he's killing people and trying to take over the world.
** Also, [[spoiler: Danika.]]
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* CompleteMonster: Rhade. Where do you even begin with this guy? All the other villains in the story claim to do their deeds [[MyCountryRightOrWrong for the good of the kingdom/empire]]. But this guy does all he does because he ''can''. From the first moment Magnus meets him, even though they're on the same side he condescends him constantly, despite Magnus having saved his life earlier (Rhade actually complained about Magnus not being fast enough), and then kills an unarmed old man as soon as he leaves the room. Then he punches you out when you try to defend a rebel leader which begins the downfall of Yumil as Rhade's the one who shows him only power can change things. THEN he forces slaves from the west to be drafted into the war by holding their own families hostage, and saying that it's YOUR fault for dragging them into the war! Quite frankly, it feels awesome when you finally get to stick a sword in his gullet (Or see it, depending on your alignment).
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* CompleteMonster: Rhade. Where do you even begin with this guy? All the other villains in the story claim to do their deeds for the good of the kingdom/empire. But this guy does all he does because he ''can''. From the first moment Magnus meets him, even though they're on the same side he condescends him constantly, despite Magnus having saved his life earlier (Rhade actually complained about Magnus not being fast enough), and then kills an unarmed old man as soon as he leaves the room. Then he punches you out when you try to defend a rebel leader which begins the downfall of Yumil as Rhade's the one who shows him only power can change things. THEN he forces slaves from the west to be drafted into the war by holding their own families hostage, and saying that it's YOUR fault for dragging them into the war! Quite frankly, it feels awesome when you finally get to stick a sword in his gullet (Or see it, depending on your alignment).
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* CompleteMonster: Rhade. Where do you even begin with this guy? All the other villains in the story claim to do their deeds [[MyCountryRightOrWrong for the good of the kingdom/empire.kingdom/empire]]. But this guy does all he does because he ''can''. From the first moment Magnus meets him, even though they're on the same side he condescends him constantly, despite Magnus having saved his life earlier (Rhade actually complained about Magnus not being fast enough), and then kills an unarmed old man as soon as he leaves the room. Then he punches you out when you try to defend a rebel leader which begins the downfall of Yumil as Rhade's the one who shows him only power can change things. THEN he forces slaves from the west to be drafted into the war by holding their own families hostage, and saying that it's YOUR fault for dragging them into the war! Quite frankly, it feels awesome when you finally get to stick a sword in his gullet (Or see it, depending on your alignment).
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* ScrappyMechanic: Chaos Frame and alignment, two linked traits. While CF is supposed to demonstrate the difference between responsible and vicious tactics, it's so obscure that virtually all players fail to realize the difference between "capturing" a town and "liberating" it is anything more than flavor text. Alignment, while actual visible to the player is absurdly difficult to control in any meaningful as well.
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** "Harassment Specialist" units tend to be this way: squads containing lots of status and debuff-casters like the above-mentioned gremlins, fairies and also witches. They're typically not dangerous in terms of damage but since they can put your soldiers to sleep, paralyze them or just decrease their attack power, they can often hold off superior forces (and when you consider that 'losing' a battle, even on technicality causes your unit to retreat back a ways, it can cause a lot of issues).
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** This troper doesn't understand why this is in the YMMV section. The guy's a top-to-bottom asshole, and never does a thing to contradict his behavior.
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* CompleteMonster: Rhade. Where do you even begin with this guy? All the other villains in the story claim to do their deeds for the good of the kingdom/empire. But this guy does all he does because he ''can''. From the first moment Magnus meets him, even though they're on the same side he condescends to him constantly, despite Magnus having saved his life earlier (Rhade actually complained about Magnus not being fast enough), and then kills an unarmed old man as soon as he leaves the room. Then he punches you out when you try to defend a rebel leader which begins the downfall of Yumil as Rhade's the one who shows him only power can change things. THEN he forces slaves from the west to be drafted into the war by holding their own families hostage, and saying that it's YOUR fault for dragging them into the war! Quite frankly, it feels awesome when you finally get to stick a sword in his gullet (Or see it, depending on your alignment).
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* CompleteMonster: Rhade. Where do you even begin with this guy? All the other villains in the story claim to do their deeds for the good of the kingdom/empire. But this guy does all he does because he ''can''. From the first moment Magnus meets him, even though they're on the same side he condescends to him constantly, despite Magnus having saved his life earlier (Rhade actually complained about Magnus not being fast enough), and then kills an unarmed old man as soon as he leaves the room. Then he punches you out when you try to defend a rebel leader which begins the downfall of Yumil as Rhade's the one who shows him only power can change things. THEN he forces slaves from the west to be drafted into the war by holding their own families hostage, and saying that it's YOUR fault for dragging them into the war! Quite frankly, it feels awesome when you finally get to stick a sword in his gullet (Or see it, depending on your alignment).alignment).
** This troper doesn't understand why this is in the YMMV section. The guy's a top-to-bottom asshole, and never does a thing to contradict his behavior.
** This troper doesn't understand why this is in the YMMV section. The guy's a top-to-bottom asshole, and never does a thing to contradict his behavior.
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* HoYay: Any scene featuring Yumil and Magnus if full of this. Like Yumil asking Magnus to "become his knight".
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** Grappers, as they hit hard no matter where in the formation they are, and always come in groups of 3 or 4. Thankfully you only face them in a few levels and you can get one.
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** Grappers, Grapplers, as they hit hard no matter where in the formation they are, and always come in groups of 3 or 4. Thankfully you only face them in a few levels and you can get one.
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* CompleteMonster: Rhade. Where do you even begin with this guy? All the other villains in the story claim to do their deeds for the good of the kingdom/empire. But this guy pretty much does all he does because he ''can''. From the first moment Magnus meets him, even though they're on the same side he condescends to him constantly, despite Magnus having saved his life earlier (Rhade actually complained about Magnus not being fast enough), and then kills an unarmed old man as soon as he leaves the room. Then he punches you out when you try to defend a rebel leader which begins the downfall of Yumil as Rhade's the one who shows him only power can change things. THEN he forces slaves from the west to be drafted into the war by holding their own families hostage, and saying that it's YOUR fault for dragging them into the war! Quite frankly, it feels awesome when you finally get to stick a sword in his gullet (Or see it, depending on your alignment).
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* CompleteMonster: Rhade. Where do you even begin with this guy? All the other villains in the story claim to do their deeds for the good of the kingdom/empire. But this guy pretty much does all he does because he ''can''. From the first moment Magnus meets him, even though they're on the same side he condescends to him constantly, despite Magnus having saved his life earlier (Rhade actually complained about Magnus not being fast enough), and then kills an unarmed old man as soon as he leaves the room. Then he punches you out when you try to defend a rebel leader which begins the downfall of Yumil as Rhade's the one who shows him only power can change things. THEN he forces slaves from the west to be drafted into the war by holding their own families hostage, and saying that it's YOUR fault for dragging them into the war! Quite frankly, it feels awesome when you finally get to stick a sword in his gullet (Or see it, depending on your alignment).
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* MagnificentBastard: The Glendale brothers, but Baldwin tends to be more bastard and Richard is more magnificent.
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* MagnificentBastard: The Glendale brothers, but Baldwin tends to be more bastard and Richard is more magnificent.magnificent.
* StrawmanHasAPoint: A number of characters, even Rhade despite his {{Jerkass}} personality, bring up that rebelling against the puppet government in Palatinis will only bring about war with Lodis, which they argue is hopeless. Much as the player would hate to admit it, since this is also brought up by someone from the rebellion that sides with characters using demons, they have a point and no matter what ending you get, there's mention that will be a war with Lodis.
* StrawmanHasAPoint: A number of characters, even Rhade despite his {{Jerkass}} personality, bring up that rebelling against the puppet government in Palatinis will only bring about war with Lodis, which they argue is hopeless. Much as the player would hate to admit it, since this is also brought up by someone from the rebellion that sides with characters using demons, they have a point and no matter what ending you get, there's mention that will be a war with Lodis.
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* HoYay: Any scene featuring Yumil and Magnus if full of this. Like Yumil asking Magnus to "become his knight".
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** Faeries and Fremlins, as they're FragileSpeedster incarnate and will dodge your attacks half the time. They only get real bad when paired with a healer at least.
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** Faeries and Fremlins, Gremlins, as they're FragileSpeedster incarnate and will dodge your attacks half the time. They only get real bad when paired with a healer at least.
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** Cockatrices can petrify you and the cure for that is not cheap. Also, on your side it robs you of experience as petrified enemies don't give any. At least you can [[PrestigeGlass upgrade]] your Golems into Stone Golems thanks to them.
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** Cockatrices can petrify you and the cure for that is not cheap. Also, on your side it robs you of experience as petrified enemies don't give any. At least you can [[PrestigeGlass [[PrestigeClass upgrade]] your Golems into Stone Golems thanks to them.
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** Cockatrices can petrify you and the cure for that is not cheap. Also, on your side it robs you of experience as petrified enemies don't give any. At least you can ClassChange your Golems into Stone Golems thanks to them.
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** Cockatrices can petrify you and the cure for that is not cheap. Also, on your side it robs you of experience as petrified enemies don't give any. At least you can ClassChange [[PrestigeGlass upgrade]] your Golems into Stone Golems thanks to them.
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* GoddamnedBats: Grappers, as they hit hard no matter where in the formation they are, and always come in groups of 3 or 4. Thankfully you only face them in a few levels and you can get one.
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** Grappers, as they hit hard no matter where in the formation they are, and always come in groups of 3 or 4. Thankfully you only face them in a few levels and you can getone.one.
** Faeries and Fremlins, as they're FragileSpeedster incarnate and will dodge your attacks half the time. They only get real bad when paired with a healer at least.
** Cockatrices can petrify you and the cure for that is not cheap. Also, on your side it robs you of experience as petrified enemies don't give any. At least you can ClassChange your Golems into Stone Golems thanks to them.
** Grappers, as they hit hard no matter where in the formation they are, and always come in groups of 3 or 4. Thankfully you only face them in a few levels and you can get
** Faeries and Fremlins, as they're FragileSpeedster incarnate and will dodge your attacks half the time. They only get real bad when paired with a healer at least.
** Cockatrices can petrify you and the cure for that is not cheap. Also, on your side it robs you of experience as petrified enemies don't give any. At least you can ClassChange your Golems into Stone Golems thanks to them.
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* GoddamnedBats: Grappers, as they hit hard no matter where in the formation they are, and always come ingroups of 3 or 4. Thankfully you only face them in a few levels and you can get one.
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* GoddamnedBats: Grappers, as they hit hard no matter where in the formation they are, and always come ingroups in groups of 3 or 4. Thankfully you only face them in a few levels and you can get one.
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* GoddamnedBats: Grappers, as they hit hard no matter where in the formation they are, and always come ingroups of 3 or 4. Thankfully you only face them in a few levels and you can get one.
