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YMMV / Ogre Battle 64

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  • Alternate Character Interpretation: Are netherworlders Always Chaotic Evil, or are they capable of good? On one hand, their goal is to bring about The End of the World as We Know It and they corrupt humans by their mere presence. On the other hand, they spend most of the game getting commanded by humans and Danika states humans and Ogres are only distinguished by where they live. Frohm the Idealist complicates matters, depending on if you see his actions as Affably Evil or Pragmatic Villainy. While he encouraged humans to satisfy their darkest desires and pleasures, he also actively tried to understand and protect them, making the land of Tybell peaceful enough that refugees willingly traveled there for safety from the war. Additionally, the player can recruit Goblins, Ogres, Gorgons and Saturoses into their army, though whether this is evidence of netherworlders getting a change of heart and becoming Noble Demons or simply Gameplay and Story Segregation is up for debate.
  • Best Level Ever:
    • "The Mercenaries" in Chapter Three, partly because of its difficulty and for feeling like The War Sequence.
    • The siege missions, due to Unexpected Gameplay Change and their awesome music.
  • Evil Is Cool:
    • The knights of Lodis in general, but especially Richard.
    • Some netherworlders, like Ogres and Saturos, which is why many players are happy they become recruitable in Chapter Four.
  • Game-Breaker:
    • The Item Duplication Glitch. It's a method that allows you to create up to 99 of any usable item. To which you can duplicate stat upgrade items, alignment upgrade items, even Champion Statuettes!
    • Stat-increase-on-level-up items can turn all those Level 3's you've saved from the beginning into gods.
  • Ho Yay: Any scene featuring Yumil and Magnus is full of this. Like Yumil asking Magnus to "become his knight".
  • Goddamned Bats: Several:
    • Grapplers, as they hit hard no matter where in the formation they are, and always come in groups of 3 or 4. Thankfully you only face them in a few levels and you can get one.
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    • Faeries and Gremlins, as they're Fragile Speedster incarnate and will dodge your attacks half the time. (Particularly Gremlins, who can put units to sleep with Abyss.) They only get real bad when paired with a healer at least.
    • "Harassment Specialist" units tend to be this way: squads containing lots of status and debuff-casters like the above-mentioned gremlins, fairies and also witches. They're typically not dangerous in terms of damage but since they can put your soldiers to sleep, paralyze them or just decrease their attack power, they can often hold off superior forces (and when you consider that 'losing' a battle, even on technicality causes your unit to retreat back a ways, it can cause a lot of issues).
    • Cockatrices can petrify you and the cure for that is not cheap. Also, on your side it robs you of experience as petrified enemies don't give any. At least you can upgrade your Golems into Stone Golems thanks to them.
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  • Goddamned Boss: Mylmurre the Gorgon, boss of Barpheth. She's not necessarily hard...but unless you're still lugging around those Paladins and Cataphracts late into Chapter Four, or for some reason visited a certain town on the stage and received a hint of what was coming, Mylmurre will petrify most or all of your group in one shot with her Gaze of Terror, costing 500 Goth per person to restore. Even if you attack her from behind, her bow shots can still turn your units to stone.
  • Good Bad Bugs:
    • The previously mentioned Item Duplication Glitch.
    • While the special character Meredia is intended to join at level 17, a glitch enables players to get her as low as level 3, allowing them to abuse stat-increase-upon-level-up items to shoot her INT up to ridiculous heights. If Meredia's trained this way, she can OHKO entire enemy groups by herself, possibly making her the most powerful unit in the game (at least when it comes to most damage done with a single attack) without using the Item Duplication Glitch.
    • The Fairy's Blow Kiss ability can be used to evolve beasts and dragons a few levels earlier than they would be able to normally.
  • It's Easy, So It Sucks!: Not really "sucks," since many fans of the game love the amount of depth that can go into character customization and army management, and also like the battle system, music, and story. However, the enemy group design is very poor and never improves, so as the player gets access to better classes and weapons, the game becomes less and less challenging. It can be a bit of a letdown that your well-trained death army never truly gets a Worthy Opponent.
  • Love to Hate: Rhade is so ridiculously over-the-top evil that he's more fun to watch than some later, more serious villains.
  • Magnificent Bastard: The Glendale brothers, but Baldwin tends to be more bastard and Richard is more magnificent.
  • Memetic Loser: Kerikov.
  • Scrappy Mechanic:
    • Chaos Frame and alignment, two linked traits. While CF is supposed to demonstrate the difference between responsible and vicious tactics, it's so obscure that virtually all players fail to realize the difference between "capturing" a town and "liberating" it is anything more than flavor text. Alignment, while actual visible to the player is absurdly difficult to control in any meaningful as well.
    • How to get Angel Knights (without using Love and Peace.) You have to kill a female character in order to get a chance for her to become an Angel Knight...and you'll likely just get a zombie instead and have to replay the entire level. Mastaba's Barrier can help with this but most first-time players don't know about birthday gifts.
  • Spoiled by the Format:
    • The fact Wentinus is suspiciously cut off from player access at the end of Chapter Two makes it obvious something has to happen there later, spoiling how defeating Yumil and liberating Winnea, the conflict built up to the entire game, is not the climax.
    • Unlike the Progenitor and Saldian, who are represented in the Hugo Report by their countries' emblems, Danika gets an actual portrait, spoiling how you will meet her in person at some point.
  • Strawman Has a Point: A number of characters, even Rhade despite his Jerkass personality, bring up that rebelling against the puppet government in Palatinus will only bring about war with Lodis, which they argue is hopeless. Much as the player would hate to admit it, since this is also brought up by someone from the rebellion that sides with characters using demons, they have a point and no matter what ending you get, there's mention that will be a war with Lodis.
  • Tear Jerker: Unlike Let Us Cling Together, Person of Lordly Caliber's Story Branching generally doesn't punish the player for "good" decisions. This can make a "bad" playthrough all the more heartbreaking by knowing many sad events could have been prevented.
    • If you choose to follow orders at the end of Chapter Two, there's the Player Punch that is Ankiseth's death.
    • The battle at the gates of Fort Romulus, if you lost Dio back in Chapter One.
    • Yumil's death in Chapter Four.
    • The secret level "Caliber" forces you to kill all the Zenobians in what's basically a mission-long What the Hell, Hero?. Destin's death is especially heartbreaking, and it's even worse if you've already beaten March of the Black Queen. If that's not sad enough, the last words of each are all tear jerkers on their own, though Aisha's might be the worse:
    • Magnus' fate in a low Chaos Frame ending. His own troops turn on him and he's cast out of the kingdom as possessed. He still helps fight against the following barbarian invasion, but Palatinus is completely destroyed anyway.
  • That One Boss:
    • Ariosh, because of the infamous level 20 Ogre he's got with him.
    • Amrius, for using a Pedra of Bane twice in the second round with him. He's quite beatable, but odds are he'll kill at least one of your units before going down, meaning there's a chance you win, an important character becomes a zombie, and you restart the level. To make matters worse, there are no witch dens in a siege level, so you'd better hope you brought some Altars of Resurrection with you.
  • Underused Game Mechanic: Combination spell-triggered evolutions. Skeletons and Stone Golems can only be evolved into Ghosts and Baldr Golems if they're hit with a Wind/Fire combination. There are only a handful of enemy formations in the game with even the possibility to cast combination magic, let alone the right combination, so the odds of having the right spell hit your Skeleton or Stone Golem are next to nothing.
  • The Woobie: Mari. A common girl chosen to be the servant to Prince Yumil and falls in love with him... then loses Yumil, gets mind controlled, realizes her love for Yumil was artificially given to her by outside sources, accidentally releases a potential world-destroying goddess, and finally gets unceremoniously killed by Baldwin. Just when it seems like her existence couldn't be any worse, the low Chaos Frame ending shows that her child from Yumil is actually the reincarnation of Rashidi, meaning she's partly responsible for giving the Antichrist godlike power.
  • They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character:
  • They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot:
    • The story brings up the moral issue of fighting Bolmaukan slaves and involving them in the revolution. Whether you liberate them or not has no long-term effect on the story, and you can kill as many as you want in battle without any consequences at all.
    • Yumil and his older brother Amrius are never seen interacting at any point, and definitely not after both have taken several levels in badass.
  • What an Idiot!: Mari holds the Idiot Ball at several points, preventing the game from getting wrapped up after Latium is liberated.

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